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Ok, so if you think I'm scum here, then I want to know why you all think I'm the worst scum player ever?
Why would I soft defend Bara, while still admitting the case on his was decent?
Why push rayn who was one of the more vocal advocators of the Bara lynch?
Why would I start to reevaluate my scum reads halfway through today and start making cases on new people and move my vote there?
Like seriously, only way I'm scum here is if I'm going for the "Worst Scum Play 2015" award. No way do I push myself out into the limelight as scum like this.
So if you really think I'm that bad of a scum player and would risk taking any of these actions that have made me look so weird and suspicious then you should take a quick look at my last scum game and explain why I've suddenly become terrible at playing as scum.
My Filter that game: Holy Guardians
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On July 29 2015 03:37 Tictock wrote:Ok, so if you think I'm scum here, then I want to know why you all think I'm the worst scum player ever? Why would I soft defend Bara, while still admitting the case on his was decent? Why push rayn who was one of the more vocal advocators of the Bara lynch? Why would I start to reevaluate my scum reads halfway through today and start making cases on new people and move my vote there? Like seriously, only way I'm scum here is if I'm going for the "Worst Scum Play 2015" award. No way do I push myself out into the limelight as scum like this. So if you really think I'm that bad of a scum player and would risk taking any of these actions that have made me look so weird and suspicious then you should take a quick look at my last scum game and explain why I've suddenly become terrible at playing as scum. My Filter that game: Holy Guardians
On July 29 2015 02:59 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2015 02:56 ruXxar wrote:On July 29 2015 02:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 29 2015 02:51 ruXxar wrote:
Heres a fact:
TT is not scum with Scott or moosy.
TT tried hard to lynch moosy, and Scott is first vote on TT today. If TT flips Mafia, I am not town. If TT flips town, I am not Mafia. I already explained this in a previous post of mine, but your statement that it's one or the other is completely false. If TT flips mafia you are town in my eyes. If TT flips town you could be either alignment. He's going to flip town.
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This is really really hard.
Tt tells the truth here and my gut feeling id that he's town. I don't like all his posts but I don't see much mafia motivation in pushing against the lynch of his team mate when its a done deal.
Tge more I think about it the more I hate it. The lynch that is.
Moosey, Scott or breshke. But id rather not breshke.
##vote scott
follow me my friends. He has hopped from case to case he hasn't really pushed anything just set things out there instead to see what can be picked up on.
I'd probably consolidate on moose but I think Scott is the way to go
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Fuck it moosey is probably town here.
So Scott or breshke.
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I'm still a bit torn on Bre, but his more recent posts look a little better.
Would also like to know in detail why he has me 3rd on his scum list though.
Scott to me has the best chance of flipping scum today as I detailed in my Case on him.
Maybe I'll move my vote off him in an effort to save myself... maybe.
Honestly I'm not sure about Moosy or Sulf, possible there is mafia between the 2 but given that I can see both as town here... I'm less interested in lynching them.
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On July 29 2015 03:37 Tictock wrote:Ok, so if you think I'm scum here, then I want to know why you all think I'm the worst scum player ever? Why would I soft defend Bara, while still admitting the case on his was decent? Why push rayn who was one of the more vocal advocators of the Bara lynch? Why would I start to reevaluate my scum reads halfway through today and start making cases on new people and move my vote there? Like seriously, only way I'm scum here is if I'm going for the "Worst Scum Play 2015" award. No way do I push myself out into the limelight as scum like this. So if you really think I'm that bad of a scum player and would risk taking any of these actions that have made me look so weird and suspicious then you should take a quick look at my last scum game and explain why I've suddenly become terrible at playing as scum. My Filter that game: Holy Guardians
You soft defend bara because you don't want him to get lynched, but don't want to be strongly associated by hard defending.
You push rayn to discredit him and make his push on barakos look illegitemate.
You start re-evaluating your scumreads because you realize the rayn push isn't getting traction and are looking for other opportunistic trains, like moosy.
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Get on Scott, stay on Scott.
Trust me, I know what I'm doing.
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On July 29 2015 02:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Please lynch TT he is scum.
Breshke is not mafia.
Neither is sulfurus.
Neither is moose.
Just want to point out that you've basically wasted today just sitting with your confirmation biased view on me.
Way to waste the day your role power brought us.
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Ruxx scum usually don't soft or hard defend team mates that are about to be lynched. Being wrong doesn't male you scum
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We have time consolidate with me. Get on Scott
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On July 29 2015 02:49 disformation wrote:
TBH would vote Scott (not looking good + POE) or Breshke atm.
MD or TT could be scum, but I don't strongly believe that and am not sure who of the two is more likely to be scum.
On July 29 2015 03:44 Damdred wrote:
Fuck it moosey is probably town here.
So Scott or breshke.
Since I have a 100% winrate with lynching scott D1 so far...
##vote scott31337
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On July 28 2015 21:20 ruXxar wrote:
Why give rels confirmed town status when n00bking was up his ass so to speak.
You'd have to ask them. My best guess is that it wrecks my credibility by showing how wrong I was. As long as I'm not a blue role, getting the Town to tell me to shut up and sit in the corner is nearly as good as killing me.
As an added bonus, it can frame me as scum who was worried that Rels is a Cop and was going to get a redcheck on me. I find this to be incredibly weak logic, but it was working on YOU for a little while. They might have hoped that Rels would fall for this too, explaining why they roleblock him but don't kill him (killing him makes me just as wrong, but it doesn't give him a chance to keep coming at me.)
On July 28 2015 21:20 ruXxar wrote:#1) mafia team are dumb. When I think about it n00b was right in that it's unlikely rels is cop since he's telling the cop who to check.
If there is a Cop in the setup, I don't think the Mafia can be particularly sure it isn't Rels. They can only be sure that if Rels is the Cop, he's not going to check ME. I gave suggestions to the Cop on who to check. Doesn't mean I'm not the Cop. But I wouldn't give a one-name suggestion, and if I did, I am not checking that guy.
On July 28 2015 21:20 ruXxar wrote:#2) mafia want to make n00bking look bad for pushing on confirmed town.
Yeah, especially if "bad" means "like a donkey" instead of "like scum."
On July 28 2015 21:20 ruXxar wrote:#3) n00bking wanted to look townie by explaining away some wifom logic of why he wouldn't rb rels.
Maybe. But it's not pure WIFOM. I'm shooting myself in the foot for the sake of WIFOM. I'd be making a sacrifice. It's Town-indicative for me that Rels was roleblocked.
On July 28 2015 21:20 ruXxar wrote:#4) mafia are genius: rels is mafia and they didn't role-block anyone.
Rels claims being role blocked to get confirmed town status.
This is insane next level play. If this is true I want to give mega props to scum team.
This occurred to me as well, but it's getting pretty deep into tinfoil hat territory. Also, if they didn't turn in a roleblock it might mean they didn't get any actions turned in at all. And instead of rayn being the target of the attack, there just wasn't an attack. I think this is only possible if Flexes is Rels' teammate. If Flexes ever flips Town, this possibility is pretty much wiped out. But if Flexes flips Red, I'm going to have to remember where I keep my tinfoil hat, and Rels is back on the menu. Maybe.
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On July 29 2015 03:48 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2015 03:37 Tictock wrote:Ok, so if you think I'm scum here, then I want to know why you all think I'm the worst scum player ever? Why would I soft defend Bara, while still admitting the case on his was decent? Why push rayn who was one of the more vocal advocators of the Bara lynch? Why would I start to reevaluate my scum reads halfway through today and start making cases on new people and move my vote there? Like seriously, only way I'm scum here is if I'm going for the "Worst Scum Play 2015" award. No way do I push myself out into the limelight as scum like this. So if you really think I'm that bad of a scum player and would risk taking any of these actions that have made me look so weird and suspicious then you should take a quick look at my last scum game and explain why I've suddenly become terrible at playing as scum. My Filter that game: Holy Guardians You soft defend bara because you don't want him to get lynched, but don't want to be strongly associated by hard defending. You push rayn to discredit him and make his push on barakos look illegitemate. You start re-evaluating your scumreads because you realize the rayn push isn't getting traction and are looking for other opportunistic trains, like moosy.
Yea about that...
You soft defend bara because you don't want him to get lynched, but don't want to be strongly associated by hard defending.
Yet any form of defense and not hopping on the wagon has the same result.. you've pointed this out yourself. I know this, and as scum no way do I do this. 100% I bus Bara into the ground. Never do I waste half the day trying to get reads through Tarot.
You push rayn to discredit him and make his push on barakos look illegitemate.
Worked like a charm too huh? Especially that bit near EoD where I said I wasn't sure rayn was scum, but that I just didn't trust him. Good way to push on someone is never voting them like I did, uhhuh...
You start re-evaluating your scumreads because you realize the rayn push isn't getting traction and are looking for other opportunistic trains, like moosy.
So I actually want to point out that I've really only been taking people OFF my scum list this entire game. I think the only person I added from who I was talking about D1 was Scott. Pretty godly scum play huh? Narrowing my list of targets like that?
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day at work is getting busier. Can anyone put together a current vote count so I can see whether or not I need to post the Town Case on Ticktock?
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@ Rels
Man, I know you are a better player than this. You have to see that your case on me basically boils down to
- I look wierd
- I've changed my mind
None of the points you've brought against me are very solid and things townies do all the time.
You even said yourself
On July 27 2015 23:44 Rels wrote:
I read TikTock's filter and I will need a rock solid case to vote on him. Thinking Sulfurus + scott is way more likely.
Honestly, is what I've done since any indication that I'm scum?
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TT is third on the list mainly because of POE.
Even if I am wrong about the RB who cares the world I was trying to discredit where they didn't RB is still wrong because they don't not RB if they want to claim RB themselves they RB their kill.
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Vote Scott vote Scott vote Scott. Don't lynch tt
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On July 29 2015 04:02 n00bKing wrote:
day at work is getting busier. Can anyone put together a current vote count so I can see whether or not I need to post the Town Case on Ticktock?
I'm still getting lynched. Not 100% on the count but it's something like
Tictock 4
Sulf 3
Scott 3
Moosy 2
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Just got home from work.
So people don't want to lynch Sulfurus - reading his last few posts and I have some questions.
- why is he looking at disformation (between him and Breshke)
- one issue I have with him is why his read on Moosy isn't changing when Moosy's done a bit (he's saying his lynch list isn't changing except for the two names he's brought up)
- Moosy has done some things that appear towny to me (read on) so I don't know how he's making a determination why he's still scummy (and less so disformation)
Sulfurus if you can answer these it would be great.
Reading a few filters...
I already voiced a few potential scum issues with Breshke (the ruxxar read drop, not getting anywhere on Sulfurus despite discussing noobking) but I need to read the Moosy/Breshke convo again, it looks really difficult to read at first glance...
Right now, the only real argument I've seen all game against Moosy is the question dodging although I thought he answered at some point why his read on Breshke evolved, mainly based on lurkiness. He has provided town reads and a scum read d1, and his response to Rels regarding the Barakos wagon "in the event it was wrong....would I have achieved anything" I thought was pretty towny.
I really don't think Moosy is the choice to go to lynch today, still townlean, and although it would appear that Tictock has moved on to a Scott/Breshke scumteam, he still has Moosy in his bottom three so unless it's buried in this thread somewhere, I'm curious as to why Tictock wasn't moved once Moosy provided those questions other than the argument "he's active and he's posting but still not that great."
And actually that's another point against Breshke - Breshke cited question dodging against Moosy as well when he returned to the thread, and Moosy had before resolved the questions I'm pretty sure.
I checked the meta read on Breshke and the argument holds, even accounting to equal the number of days, since he didn't last long in his scum games.
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On July 29 2015 04:03 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2015 04:02 n00bKing wrote:
day at work is getting busier. Can anyone put together a current vote count so I can see whether or not I need to post the Town Case on Ticktock? I'm still getting lynched. Not 100% on the count but it's something like Tictock 4 Sulf 3 Scott 3 Moosy 2
Yeah that is the current count. vote scott. 
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