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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
July 28 2015 19:37 GMT
#1461
On July 29 2015 04:34 n00bKing wrote:
Well, that escalated quickly.

Very quickly.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
July 28 2015 19:41 GMT
#1462
*shrugs* For me this is a good test to sniff out alignments through reactions of all parties involved. To be truthful I was reluctant to switch and with this quick change in voting, things do seem a bit off. But I think this lynch will at least give us a ton of info.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
July 28 2015 19:43 GMT
#1463
On July 29 2015 04:41 MoosyDoosy wrote:
*shrugs* For me this is a good test to sniff out alignments through reactions of all parties involved. To be truthful I was reluctant to switch and with this quick change in voting, things do seem a bit off. But I think this lynch will at least give us a ton of info.


subtly setting yourself up for a "told ya so"?
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
July 28 2015 19:44 GMT
#1464
On July 29 2015 04:43 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 04:41 MoosyDoosy wrote:
*shrugs* For me this is a good test to sniff out alignments through reactions of all parties involved. To be truthful I was reluctant to switch and with this quick change in voting, things do seem a bit off. But I think this lynch will at least give us a ton of info.


subtly setting yourself up for a "told ya so"?

Yes.

Nah, just saying the obvious. We're all thinking the same thing but not saying it.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
July 28 2015 19:46 GMT
#1465
On July 29 2015 04:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 04:43 disformation wrote:
On July 29 2015 04:41 MoosyDoosy wrote:
*shrugs* For me this is a good test to sniff out alignments through reactions of all parties involved. To be truthful I was reluctant to switch and with this quick change in voting, things do seem a bit off. But I think this lynch will at least give us a ton of info.


subtly setting yourself up for a "told ya so"?

Yes.

Nah, just saying the obvious. We're all thinking the same thing but not saying it.


Not too sure about the ton of info, but the landslide voting is worrying me a tad.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 28 2015 19:46 GMT
#1466
This is interesting.

Everyone who has moved why did you move to the Scott wagon.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
July 28 2015 19:48 GMT
#1467
On July 29 2015 04:46 Damdred wrote:
This is interesting.

Everyone who has moved why did you move to the Scott wagon.

Because I trust you and if you're wrong I want to grab my tinfoil and lynch you.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
July 28 2015 19:48 GMT
#1468
It's never a good thing to have votes all over the place, makes VCA analysis hard. So consolidating on one or two wagons EoD is never a bad thing.

The more spread out town is on the voting the easier it is for scum to hide or to influence the votes to push mislynches. Much harder for scum to do those things when town is working together.
I can take that responsibility.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
July 28 2015 19:48 GMT
#1469
Day 2 Votecount


scott31337 (7): Tictock, disformation, MoosyDoosy, NocturneMage, Damdred, Breshke, n00bKing
tictock (3): scott31337, Rels, raynpelikoneet, ruXxar
moosydoosy (2): Tictock, Sulfurus, ruXxar, Breshke, ruXxar
sulfurus (0): n00bKing, disformation, Rels, MoosyDoosy, MoosyDoosy, NocturneMage, scott31337
ticktack (0): raynpelikoneet
n00bking (0): ruXxar
breshke (0): Tictock

Not Voting (0):
Scott31337 is set to be lynched!
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
July 28 2015 19:50 GMT
#1470
On July 29 2015 04:46 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 04:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On July 29 2015 04:43 disformation wrote:
On July 29 2015 04:41 MoosyDoosy wrote:
*shrugs* For me this is a good test to sniff out alignments through reactions of all parties involved. To be truthful I was reluctant to switch and with this quick change in voting, things do seem a bit off. But I think this lynch will at least give us a ton of info.


subtly setting yourself up for a "told ya so"?

Yes.

Nah, just saying the obvious. We're all thinking the same thing but not saying it.


Not too sure about the ton of info, but the landslide voting is worrying me a tad.


Bit of an overstatement isn't it?

This is 5? Votes on scott now?
I can take that responsibility.
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
July 28 2015 19:50 GMT
#1471
On July 29 2015 04:46 Damdred wrote:
Everyone who has moved why did you move to the Scott wagon.

Because you told me to. :D

Moosy's switch from Sulfurus to Scott pretty much nixes the Sulf lynch. (Hence why I tell him "Booooo.") So like I mentioned earlier in the game, I would move to consolidate, taking control of the Noose away from Scum, in case I am afk at the deadline.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
July 28 2015 19:51 GMT
#1472
On July 29 2015 04:48 LightningStrike wrote:
Day 2 Votecount


scott31337 (7): Tictock, disformation, MoosyDoosy, NocturneMage, Damdred, Breshke, n00bKing
tictock (3): scott31337, Rels, raynpelikoneet, ruXxar
moosydoosy (2): Tictock, Sulfurus, ruXxar, Breshke, ruXxar
sulfurus (0): n00bKing, disformation, Rels, MoosyDoosy, MoosyDoosy, NocturneMage, scott31337
ticktack (0): raynpelikoneet
n00bking (0): ruXxar
breshke (0): Tictock

Not Voting (0):
Scott31337 is set to be lynched!


I stand corrected...

Yea Damdred is asking a decent question.
I can take that responsibility.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 28 2015 19:52 GMT
#1473
On July 29 2015 04:04 NocturneMage wrote:
Just got home from work.

So people don't want to lynch Sulfurus - reading his last few posts and I have some questions.

- why is he looking at disformation (between him and Breshke)
- one issue I have with him is why his read on Moosy isn't changing when Moosy's done a bit (he's saying his lynch list isn't changing except for the two names he's brought up)
- Moosy has done some things that appear towny to me (read on) so I don't know how he's making a determination why he's still scummy (and less so disformation)

Sulfurus if you can answer these it would be great.

Reading a few filters...

I already voiced a few potential scum issues with Breshke (the ruxxar read drop, not getting anywhere on Sulfurus despite discussing noobking) but I need to read the Moosy/Breshke convo again, it looks really difficult to read at first glance...

Right now, the only real argument I've seen all game against Moosy is the question dodging although I thought he answered at some point why his read on Breshke evolved, mainly based on lurkiness. He has provided town reads and a scum read d1, and his response to Rels regarding the Barakos wagon "in the event it was wrong....would I have achieved anything" I thought was pretty towny.

I really don't think Moosy is the choice to go to lynch today, still townlean, and although it would appear that Tictock has moved on to a Scott/Breshke scumteam, he still has Moosy in his bottom three so unless it's buried in this thread somewhere, I'm curious as to why Tictock wasn't moved once Moosy provided those questions other than the argument "he's active and he's posting but still not that great."

And actually that's another point against Breshke - Breshke cited question dodging against Moosy as well when he returned to the thread, and Moosy had before resolved the questions I'm pretty sure.

I checked the meta read on Breshke and the argument holds, even accounting to equal the number of days, since he didn't last long in his scum games.


I think mages is scum here actually
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
July 28 2015 19:53 GMT
#1474
Actually that vote count is not accurate.

Ruxx never took his vote back to moosy it's still on me, he messed up formatting a post that had a vote in it which is messing up the tracker.
I can take that responsibility.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
July 28 2015 19:53 GMT
#1475
On July 29 2015 04:46 Damdred wrote:
This is interesting.

Everyone who has moved why did you move to the Scott wagon.


Well:
On July 28 2015 06:07 disformation wrote:
[...]
If scott doesn't up his game I will be willing to vote for him.
[...]

On July 28 2015 22:26 disformation wrote:
[...]
Read Scott's filter. Don't like him jumping on every decent case he sees but I don't mind his attempt at VCA that much. Though overall his contribution so far is kinda lacking. Tempted to maybe give him another day. But also depends on how much more/less likely I judge ruXxar/TT/MD to be scum.
[...]

On July 29 2015 02:39 disformation wrote:
[...]
like... is the scum team Breshke + flexes/scott ?

On July 29 2015 02:49 disformation wrote:
TBH would vote Scott (not looking good + POE) or Breshke atm.
MD or TT could be scum, but I don't strongly believe that and am not sure who of the two is more likely to be scum.

On July 29 2015 03:53 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 02:49 disformation wrote:
TBH would vote Scott (not looking good + POE) or Breshke atm.
MD or TT could be scum, but I don't strongly believe that and am not sure who of the two is more likely to be scum.


Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 03:44 Damdred wrote:
Fuck it moosey is probably town here.

So Scott or breshke.



Since I have a 100% winrate with lynching scott D1 so far...
##vote scott31337


TDLR:
After not getting it for a while I agree that lynching off the barakos wagon has a good chance of hitting scum. Town lean on ruXxar and while MD and TT look somewhat shady I am not confident enough on either of them flipping scum to be happy with a lynch (would consolidate, but not rly happy). So by PoE it kinda has to be scott and his performance so far has been everything but hot.

Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 28 2015 19:55 GMT
#1476
I think the most interesting thing to me, is that mages thinks breshke is the most suspicious and wants to lynched I believe.

But just a few minutes after breshke consolidates on scott, he votes scott with a really meh reason without any suspicion with his top scum read on him.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
July 28 2015 19:55 GMT
#1477
On July 29 2015 04:52 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 04:04 NocturneMage wrote:
Just got home from work.

So people don't want to lynch Sulfurus - reading his last few posts and I have some questions.

- why is he looking at disformation (between him and Breshke)
- one issue I have with him is why his read on Moosy isn't changing when Moosy's done a bit (he's saying his lynch list isn't changing except for the two names he's brought up)
- Moosy has done some things that appear towny to me (read on) so I don't know how he's making a determination why he's still scummy (and less so disformation)

Sulfurus if you can answer these it would be great.

Reading a few filters...

I already voiced a few potential scum issues with Breshke (the ruxxar read drop, not getting anywhere on Sulfurus despite discussing noobking) but I need to read the Moosy/Breshke convo again, it looks really difficult to read at first glance...

Right now, the only real argument I've seen all game against Moosy is the question dodging although I thought he answered at some point why his read on Breshke evolved, mainly based on lurkiness. He has provided town reads and a scum read d1, and his response to Rels regarding the Barakos wagon "in the event it was wrong....would I have achieved anything" I thought was pretty towny.

I really don't think Moosy is the choice to go to lynch today, still townlean, and although it would appear that Tictock has moved on to a Scott/Breshke scumteam, he still has Moosy in his bottom three so unless it's buried in this thread somewhere, I'm curious as to why Tictock wasn't moved once Moosy provided those questions other than the argument "he's active and he's posting but still not that great."

And actually that's another point against Breshke - Breshke cited question dodging against Moosy as well when he returned to the thread, and Moosy had before resolved the questions I'm pretty sure.

I checked the meta read on Breshke and the argument holds, even accounting to equal the number of days, since he didn't last long in his scum games.


I think mages is scum here actually

YES this is EXACTLY what I thought.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 28 2015 19:55 GMT
#1478
Everyone comments on mages now, his re-entrance to the thread and his subsequent vote make m think scum.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
July 28 2015 19:56 GMT
#1479
On July 29 2015 04:55 Damdred wrote:
I think the most interesting thing to me, is that mages thinks breshke is the most suspicious and wants to lynched I believe.

But just a few minutes after breshke consolidates on scott, he votes scott with a really meh reason without any suspicion with his top scum read on him.

Not to mention he has solid town reads on people like me that are continuous almost as if he already knows the alignments beforehand.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
July 28 2015 19:57 GMT
#1480
But I still think that lynching scott is a better idea. Mage becomes REALLY suspicious only when scott flips town. Even then he has a solid case of busing on him.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
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