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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 28 2015 20:00 GMT
#1481
On July 29 2015 02:31 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 02:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Please lynch TT he is scum.
Breshke is not mafia.
Neither is sulfurus.
Neither is moose.


Who is the last mafia?

Scott or noobking.
Leaning on noobking tbh.
table for two on a tv tray
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
July 28 2015 20:05 GMT
#1482
On July 29 2015 05:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 02:31 ruXxar wrote:
On July 29 2015 02:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Please lynch TT he is scum.
Breshke is not mafia.
Neither is sulfurus.
Neither is moose.


Who is the last mafia?

Scott or noobking.
Leaning on noobking tbh.

If you're right about Ticktock, then I would lynch me, too. Since we're sharing one brain half the time in this game.

But sorry, it's a Town brain. Keep looking!
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 28 2015 20:05 GMT
#1483
We should probably lynch mages here I think. I mean I think that the reasoning behind the vote is really bad coupled with the horrible re entrance makes him best lynch.

##unvote
##vote NocturnalMages


lets go
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 28 2015 20:05 GMT
#1484
Please vote for Tictock.
PLEASE!!
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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 28 2015 20:06 GMT
#1485
No vote mages

##unvote
##vote nocturnemages
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
July 28 2015 20:07 GMT
#1486
On July 28 2015 05:44 NocturneMage wrote:
Re-reading the last page, there are few things that are of concern to me.

If we assume that Sulfurus is (somehow) town, you have Scott throwing his vote by sheeping a case. He could be mafia taking advantage of a townread. The other issue here is that he's saying he doesnt like Tictock even though Tictock is pushing Sulfurus and MoosyDoosy.

From Scott's viewpoint - unless he can be more specific - Tictock pushing Sulfurus should raise his opinion of Tictock.

His precedent Flexes has zero on Sulfurus in his filter.


This was Noc's most recent post prior to what he's posted in the last hour here.

So he did have suspicions of scott earlier.

I'm not seeing anything in this post that really looks like a scum tell to me. It looks far more like a newbie trying to talk about everything that's being discussed atm and then jumping on this scott wagon.
On July 29 2015 04:04 NocturneMage wrote:
Just got home from work.

So people don't want to lynch Sulfurus - reading his last few posts and I have some questions.

- why is he looking at disformation (between him and Breshke)
- one issue I have with him is why his read on Moosy isn't changing when Moosy's done a bit (he's saying his lynch list isn't changing except for the two names he's brought up)
- Moosy has done some things that appear towny to me (read on) so I don't know how he's making a determination why he's still scummy (and less so disformation)

Sulfurus if you can answer these it would be great.

Reading a few filters...

I already voiced a few potential scum issues with Breshke (the ruxxar read drop, not getting anywhere on Sulfurus despite discussing noobking) but I need to read the Moosy/Breshke convo again, it looks really difficult to read at first glance...

Right now, the only real argument I've seen all game against Moosy is the question dodging although I thought he answered at some point why his read on Breshke evolved, mainly based on lurkiness. He has provided town reads and a scum read d1, and his response to Rels regarding the Barakos wagon "in the event it was wrong....would I have achieved anything" I thought was pretty towny.

I really don't think Moosy is the choice to go to lynch today, still townlean, and although it would appear that Tictock has moved on to a Scott/Breshke scumteam, he still has Moosy in his bottom three so unless it's buried in this thread somewhere, I'm curious as to why Tictock wasn't moved once Moosy provided those questions other than the argument "he's active and he's posting but still not that great."

And actually that's another point against Breshke - Breshke cited question dodging against Moosy as well when he returned to the thread, and Moosy had before resolved the questions I'm pretty sure.

I checked the meta read on Breshke and the argument holds, even accounting to equal the number of days, since he didn't last long in his scum games.



So meh.

Unless you are seeing something here than I'm not Damdred?
I can take that responsibility.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 28 2015 20:08 GMT
#1487
On July 29 2015 05:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 02:31 ruXxar wrote:
On July 29 2015 02:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Please lynch TT he is scum.
Breshke is not mafia.
Neither is sulfurus.
Neither is moose.


Who is the last mafia?

Scott or noobking.
Leaning on noobking tbh.


Scott is never last mafia with tictock.

Scott was first on vote train of tick tock and it was looking really strong.
No way scott is bussing tick tock in this position.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 28 2015 20:09 GMT
#1488
Fuck you damdred you are being fucking awful now.
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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 28 2015 20:10 GMT
#1489
Tick is being town, you are being awful here. You won't look at what I'm saying so yeah, tt might be scum but I don't see it atm
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
July 28 2015 20:10 GMT
#1490
On July 29 2015 04:55 Damdred wrote:
Everyone comments on mages now, his re-entrance to the thread and his subsequent vote make m think scum.


Hmm. He is quite quick to jump on the most promising/consented wagon each time he appears on D2. Did kinda of the same D1 on Barakos though. The stuff on Sulf was a misunderstanding and some decent points.

The other stuff is some points and notes... but like I am not seeing a scum tell here. Am I missing something?

Unless you think he is a hypocrite because his voting pattern is similar to scott's or something? Though in comparison I like NocturneMage's post more than scotts...
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 28 2015 20:11 GMT
#1491
On July 29 2015 05:08 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 05:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 29 2015 02:31 ruXxar wrote:
On July 29 2015 02:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Please lynch TT he is scum.
Breshke is not mafia.
Neither is sulfurus.
Neither is moose.


Who is the last mafia?

Scott or noobking.
Leaning on noobking tbh.


Scott is never last mafia with tictock.

Scott was first on vote train of tick tock and it was looking really strong.
No way scott is bussing tick tock in this position.

Fuck you too i am the firdt vote on tictock.
Ever been. You are being stupid. Noone listens to his opinion anyways. He gets scumread if he doesnt do reasonable stuff. Which at this point of the game is to listen to me.

Lynch tictock i promise you he will flip mafia.
table for two on a tv tray
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
July 28 2015 20:12 GMT
#1492
On July 29 2015 05:05 Damdred wrote:
We should probably lynch mages here I think. I mean I think that the reasoning behind the vote is really bad coupled with the horrible re entrance makes him best lynch.

##unvote
##vote NocturnalMages


lets go


Ugh, I'm not sure I have time for this.

If you can put together something more convincing in the next 20 min I'll swap my vote, but I have to start getting ready for work.

I'll check in before I head off to see where things are since I wont be around EoD.

In the off chance that I do get lynched today I want everyone to really consider Scott and Ruxx tomorrow for their really bad votes on me.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
July 28 2015 20:13 GMT
#1493
On July 29 2015 05:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 05:08 ruXxar wrote:
On July 29 2015 05:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 29 2015 02:31 ruXxar wrote:
On July 29 2015 02:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Please lynch TT he is scum.
Breshke is not mafia.
Neither is sulfurus.
Neither is moose.


Who is the last mafia?

Scott or noobking.
Leaning on noobking tbh.


Scott is never last mafia with tictock.

Scott was first on vote train of tick tock and it was looking really strong.
No way scott is bussing tick tock in this position.

Fuck you too i am the firdt vote on tictock.
Ever been. You are being stupid. Noone listens to his opinion anyways. He gets scumread if he doesnt do reasonable stuff. Which at this point of the game is to listen to me.

Lynch tictock i promise you he will flip mafia.


Don't make promises you can't keep...
I can take that responsibility.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 28 2015 20:17 GMT
#1494
Why were you so trusting to jump on Scott tt but not wanting to jump on mages for a little better
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 28 2015 20:17 GMT
#1495
On July 29 2015 05:12 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 05:05 Damdred wrote:
We should probably lynch mages here I think. I mean I think that the reasoning behind the vote is really bad coupled with the horrible re entrance makes him best lynch.

##unvote
##vote NocturnalMages


lets go


Ugh, I'm not sure I have time for this.

If you can put together something more convincing in the next 20 min I'll swap my vote, but I have to start getting ready for work.

I'll check in before I head off to see where things are since I wont be around EoD.

In the off chance that I do get lynched today I want everyone to really consider Scott and Ruxx tomorrow for their really bad votes on me.

You hqve probably wanted to kill everyone except for me, damdred and noobking on d2.
You are mafia.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 28 2015 20:18 GMT
#1496
Oh and you called me scum on N1.
You are double scum.
table for two on a tv tray
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 28 2015 20:20 GMT
#1497
Rayn I think if tt is scum then mages is his partner do you disagree with that
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 28 2015 20:23 GMT
#1498
On July 29 2015 05:20 Damdred wrote:
Rayn I think if tt is scum then mages is his partner do you disagree with that

Iek. I dont care yet.
TT is mafia and we should lynch him.
No other lynch is good enough.
table for two on a tv tray
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 28 2015 20:26 GMT
#1499
Fuck looks like votes are on me - I guess I have to do this now.

I'm the cop and have a green check on MoosyDoosy.

My crumb in this message -

On July 28 2015 03:16 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 18:50 Rels wrote:
Why Sulfurus has to be mafia: the easiest case in the world

1. Did nothing for half of day 1
Yes. In spoiler you will find the only post Sulfurus made D1. Not even good apparently.
+ Show Spoiler +

On July 24 2015 15:23 Sulfurus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2015 10:34 n00bKing wrote:
I'll be interested to see what Sulfurus brings to the table in this game. I felt like it was pretty easy to distinguish his scum game from his Town game


I could say the same about you.



2. His playstyle
Sulfurus played three games prior to this one: newbie X, XI and XII. He was lynched in all three.
In the first he was VT (see? I'm learning). In the other two he was GF. He had the same playstyle that is displayed is this game; very few posts, not much explanations, sudden attacks on people.

I just can't believe he would keep this style if he was townie.

3. Voting on Barakos
Sulfurus voted on Barakos after half of D1, clearly sheeping the thread sentiment. While voting for a mafia is never scum indicative, the way he did it is not town indicative either because:
- Barakos hadn't posted for 8 hours at the time.
- He almost only talked about Barakos. In fact, he only made two meaningful post: one case on Barakos, and one case on noobking. We'll talk about the noobking's post later, no worries.

4. No explanation on his list
Sulfurus posted this:
On July 25 2015 09:54 Sulfurus wrote:
And feel free to ask any questions you have about the list (somthing which ruXxar has already taken the initiative on).

But he only explained a few of his reads, ignoring these posts:
On July 25 2015 08:58 disformation wrote:
5) General lack of explanation for anything.


On July 25 2015 10:32 disformation wrote:
I'd like to hear your reasons for your townread on Damdred and your reasons for your #1 scum read on barakos, who you are currently voting for. And the reasons for your #2 scum read of MoosyDoosy would also be nice.


On July 25 2015 21:18 disformation wrote:
Didn't like how Sulfurus only gave 1/3 reads I asked him about.

He even quoted this last post but never answered:
On July 26 2015 03:22 Sulfurus wrote:
On July 25 2015 21:18 disformation wrote:
okay phone post time. lemme throw out some thoughts.
Didn't like how Sulfurus only gave 1/3 reads I asked him about. Liked TT being suspicious of Sulfurus. Though I am not sure what I my conclusion on Sulfurus is. Def. want him to come back and post more.
such Rayn. very town. much wow.
Town lean on Damdred. Will reread him and post proper reasons when I am at home.
Need to look st Rels filter.
While I didn't mind NocturneMages questions in the beginning I think it is time for him to come back here and at least try to put out some reads.

also: a lot of ppl haven't voted yet, right? should get to that.

Did you notice our reads are similar, or does that not change anything?


Plus, in his Barakos post he said:
On July 25 2015 14:02 Sulfurus wrote:
I'll start with my read on Barakos since it was the easiest to figure out, just look at this post.

So he "started" and never continue.


5. He voted moosy with no explanation
Moosy was number 2 on his list, and he never explained his read of him. Just voted him off.

6. His case on noobking is bad
noobking's defense was good so I have nothing to add here.
+ Show Spoiler +

On July 26 2015 11:28 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2015 10:35 Sulfurus wrote:
n00bKing was the second to last player to vote on Barakos, he even admits in the same post that he would rather have lynched Rels today.

Which I probably wouldn't say, if I were Scum, and knew that Barakos was about to flip Red. Like, you're defeating your own argument, without me needing to do anything.
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2015 10:35 Sulfurus wrote:
And some particular posts that I think are quite damning
    rel's on n00bKing

Rels is not even trying to scumread me in that post. He's just defending himself. (As he should. I'm not saying it was scum indicative for him to be defending himself, or for him to ONLY be defending himself. I'm just saying he wasn't trying to indicate that anything I said made me Scum at that time.)
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2015 10:35 Sulfurus wrote:
n00b malicously changing rayn's town read to scum read.

Uhhh, you are misrepresenting my position. Read what the quote actually says. I did not ever try to say that rayn gave a scum read to Rels. I said that rayn refused to defend Rels. If you doubt that I'm right, ask rayn yourself, I expect he remembers.
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2015 10:35 Sulfurus wrote:
Claiming he can quote FIFTY posts from someone unmemorable

Keep grasping at those straws. I said he was unmemorable right before saying I was going to look at his filter from that game. After looking at the filter, he has at least 50 posts in that game that are not in the format you were talking about. The fact that I found him to be unmemorable before looking at his filter means nothing.
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2015 10:35 Sulfurus wrote:
and this gem.

I don't even know what you're trying to say. How is that post from ruXxar a "gem" and how is it supposed to make me look bad?



Conclusion
Mafia.

##Vote Sulfurus


Pretty decent case, I could sheep this..

##Vote Sulfurus

I'm still not caring for TT or n00bking either, n00b is really defensive and doesn't look like his town game. Pretty sure two of the mafia are in these three.

I'm doing some research on Chronic kidney disease, lipids and apolipoproteins so
I'll be on and off today.


If you look up "Chronic kidney disease, lipids and apolipoproteins" the first link is
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24607852
If you look up TL's post 24607852
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24607852
Is
On July 27 2015 13:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
We most likely have a cop and a green check on moosy.

So get your votes off of me NOW PLEASE!
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 28 2015 20:27 GMT
#1500
Idk if I want to lynch tt and id rather lynch mages tbh.

Shrug
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