Newbie Student Mafia XIII

On July 24 2015 10:34 n00bKing wrote:
I'll be interested to see what Sulfurus brings to the table in this game. I felt like it was pretty easy to distinguish his scum game from his Town game

On July 25 2015 05:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:

i was looking for this.

tbh i assumed this is what you were after (didn't know and too hard to check on phone, when i got home i forgot).

On July 25 2015 07:55 ruXxar wrote:


Why is flexes more town than disformation?!!

On July 24 2015 10:11 Flexes wrote:
hi everybody.
i'm new so i really don't know what to say and what conclusions to draw.

i don't know why ruxxor is so defensive about his "posting style" when the accusation against him is so baseless.
i still think you cannot tell either way though.
moosydoosy being the first one to point fingers to gain information gives him a slight townlean for me.

On July 25 2015 05:39 Flexes wrote:
i am here, but i don't wanna post stupid shit that clutters up the thread.
i'm writing up my thoughts on all players right now and will post my reads when finished.

On July 25 2015 08:07 n00bKing wrote:

If the mind-meld between rayn and myself is real, then why do you have one of us on your Town reads and one on your Scum reads? lol

On July 25 2015 08:58 disformation wrote:


I am staring at this post for quite some time now. No idea where to begin with this...
1) I don't think this is how auto works... auto is when you have overwhelming evidence on one or more scum members. I don't see overwhelming evidence anywhere. Auto also suggests you are done putting any effort into this game...
2) I am quite positive that mafia will at least try to shoot someone every night. So I have no idea how you can work under the assumption of having 6 lynches.
3) At least 7 town reads? Do you have 7 town reads, or do you have 8 town reads, or do you have 9 town reads?
4) Super setup for stuff like "oh I would rather lynch #1 of my scum list, but I can settle for #5, too". Which is pretty scummy...
5) General lack of explanation for anything.
6) Total wrong mindset for town? This reads to me as "instead of finding and lynching the most scummiest person around, I'll just do a huge PoE list (which has half of the players on it) and be content to lynch to that.

I don't even... oO

On July 24 2015 09:08 Barakos wrote:


Yeah... weather here in germany sucks... I've been feeling like shit the whole day...

And then I come to reread and ruxxars style just gives me more headaches. -.-

Dunno, what to make of it atm, last time someone used poetry in a game it confused the hell out of me and 2 of the 3 reads I got from it were utter bullshit, so for now, I'll not jump to any conclusions about ruxxar, based on that style, but would really appreciate it, if this changes sometime soon...

Kinda strongly dislike rayn for coming in and making an alibi-post, that kinda reads like he won't be here for the rest of the dayphase... let's just hope, that's not the case and there will be more posts from him.

Nocturne coming in and asking lots of questions seems kinda active. But a lot of his posts/ questions are targetet at other peoples opinion about the alignment of person x/y/z, without actually giving his own thoughts...

Disformation - several posts... mostly about ruxxars other games and the difference in tone, also the only one, who openly likes ruxxars style... What I don't like, is that he defends the "bullshitting" in the start of the game. Granted, it's hard to start a conversation early on and you kind of have to do something, to get the thread going, (and you kinda have to give ruxxar credit for this - he created something, people can talk about) but encouraging him to keep this up the whole game seems kinda off to me.

Noobking - totally top town for being able to count, how many people have posted, just to correct disformation!

On July 25 2015 14:24 Tictock wrote:


Besides the bolded line, you are saying nothing new here.

Was commenting about the "shape" of his posts in comparison to another game really something you wanted to share with us? Or are you trying to add more padding to your filter?

On July 25 2015 17:14 n00bKing wrote:

I see three different things wrong with this post from Sulfurus. And will award 5 Townie points to each player who notices one of them before I point it out. Two of them have already been pointed out, during discussion on Page 33.

1) I have never heard anyone talk about the "shape" of someone's posts as possibly being alignment-indicative. That's just not terminology that is used. Sulfurus later talks about Trfel and myself having distinctive formatting. That could make it difficult for us to Smurf or something, but did Trfel's distinctive formatting actually change, when his alignment changed? Sulfurus doesn't say that it did, so what is he talking about? Did my distinctive formatting actually change, when my alignment changed? Sulfurus doesn't say that it did (and he's never seen my alignment change) so what is he talking about? I don't see any indication that Barakos using the same "shape" in his posts would actually mean he's Town again, so there wouldn't be anything to get "very excited" about. All of this is dumb.

For calling attention to it, I'll give Ticktock 5 Townie Points.

2) Sulfurus "starts with the read on Barakos" even though it was the one that people would be least interested to hear about, and then left for hours. And when he came back and posted again, he still didn't explain the controversial reads that people would actually be curious about.

For calling attention to that, I'll give Breshke 5 Townie Points.

3) ????

Whoever points out this problem in Sulfurus' post, will get another 5 Townie Points.


In Sulfurus' defense (yeah, I said it!) he didn't really make a full-on list post in either of his two recent scum games. He kinda/sorta gave reads, but there wasn't a list post like this one. Whereas there was, in Newbie X (where he was Town). On the other hand, considering that he was lynched EARLY in each of those scum games, you would think he would try to do SOMETHING to change up his scum game, even if it's just copycatting some of his behavior from Newbie X (since I've made it clear that I'm pretty familiar with all 3 of his previous games).

On July 25 2015 17:26 n00bKing wrote:

Like, everything you say here is pointless, false, or BOTH. Would it help if I quoted FIFTY posts from Barakos in Newbie X that are neither block-y nor rectangular? Because they are there. And it also isn't true that in this game, the only post from him that is block-y and rectangular is the one you quoted. Posts 12 and 13 in his filter from this game use the formatting you're talking about, even though they were both after the post that you quoted. He ends a sentence, starts a new line, but does not put in a line break to start a new paragraph. Just as was often (but not always) seen in his posts in Newbie X, and that's what gives some of his posts that distinctive layout.

So again, even if what you were saying was true, I don't think it would matter. But it's not true. There are some good reasons to be suspicious of Barakos. This crap about the shape of his posts AIN'T those good reasons. So I understand why people are saying that it looks like you might be reaching for new reasons to sheep thread sentiment, instead of just sheeping the reasons that were already given.

On July 25 2015 21:18 disformation wrote:
okay phone post time. lemme throw out some thoughts.
Didn't like how Sulfurus only gave 1/3 reads I asked him about. Liked TT being suspicious of Sulfurus. Though I am not sure what I my conclusion on Sulfurus is. Def. want him to come back and post more.
such Rayn. very town. much wow.
Town lean on Damdred. Will reread him and post proper reasons when I am at home.
Need to look st Rels filter.
While I didn't mind NocturneMages questions in the beginning I think it is time for him to come back here and at least try to put out some reads.

also: a lot of ppl haven't voted yet, right? should get to that.

On July 25 2015 21:31 ruXxar wrote:


???
I asked why he was more town than disformation, not nocturne.

On July 26 2015 11:36 ruXxar wrote:
I don't really know how to read sulfurus.
Like, he's playing completely different from my last game with him, which is why I'm hesistant to scum-read him but everything he says is just weird.
His post that supposedly shows how n00bking is scum is just so bad on so many levels I don't even know how it's supposed to convince anyone.

On July 27 2015 10:46 scott31337 wrote:


Who do you think are the last two mafia?

On July 28 2015 04:46 ruXxar wrote:
His read on flexes was really weird, he got the totally opposite reaction of what I had, I thought flexes posts were slightly scummy or NAI at best, yet he called him super town for it.

On July 28 2015 04:46 ruXxar wrote:
I think he's just overexcited.
He's been watching a lot of daily mafia and thinks he's acquired tremendous scum hunting abilities.
Wanted to seem cool by spouting some DM terminology.
I understand that, I've been there too.

On July 28 2015 11:35 Tictock wrote:
seems unlikely he's rolled Mafia this many games in a row, but that's not a real reason to think he's town

On July 28 2015 18:08 Rels wrote:
Town usually defend very hard when pushed like that, and sometimes even attacks back. (see = noobking vs myself)
The fact that TT started defending against my accusation then left the thread before continuing is making me even more suspicious of him.
Actually it's the other way around: him defending hard would be a small sign of him being town. And he doesn't do that.

On July 29 2015 04:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:
But I still think that lynching scott is a better idea. Mage becomes REALLY suspicious only when scott flips town. Even then he has a solid case of busing on him.

On July 29 2015 05:35 ruXxar wrote:
Green check only means 50/50 chance he's town.

On July 29 2015 05:52 scott31337 wrote:
Sulf are you around? We're not lynching moosy today.

On July 29 2015 06:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##unvote
##Vote scott31337
There is no way flexes has sent in a check.
Impossible.

On July 29 2015 09:22 disformation wrote:
@Sulfurus:
Any changes to your POE due to the developments of D2?

On July 29 2015 10:13 MoosyDoosy wrote:

Unfortunately you're wrong in everything else so your credibility goes back to 0.

Basically you, Scott, and Damdred are all high-priority night kills since you are all difficult to push mis-lynches on; Damdred even more so since as town he has high lynch of discovering a well-hidden mafia given how he pushed on Barakos already. If someone more scummy such as myself dies in night before one of you it might mean that one of you is mafia.

On August 01 2015 05:07 Sulfurus wrote:
@RuXxar I think it's unfair that you haven't had to defend yourself like the rest of us have. Why are you town?

On August 01 2015 06:06 Damdred wrote:
No, no we don't. You guys don't understand that moosey mid killing himself basically fucked town to an extent.

Now sulf is 100% voting with his #1 scum read and no one is batting an eye.

So please Ruxxor rels disinformation switch with me and let's kill sulf

On August 01 2015 06:15 Damdred wrote:


You just said Noobking can't live past today and you hammer the other person instead of letting the person who you don't think should live past today get lynched

On August 01 2015 06:33 Rels wrote:
Why did you switch Sulfurus ?

On July 28 2015 06:20 Sulfurus wrote:


It takes a lurker to read a lurker.

But seriously there is a really deep bias among some people in this game that post count is proportional to townyness, maybe for some people, but if you actually look at flexes filter with the knowledge that something distracted him from the game (kinda why he got replaced) then it makes more sense why he is towny.


      tru tho

My auto list is legit though; someone asked (TickTock?) if I will ever reconsider it and the answer is I think about how I could change it whenever I read the game but it's pretty set in stone except maybe I would rather lynch breshke over disformation but it could go either way.

On July 25 2015 23:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like you are one of the few players i know who just makes 1000x more sense as mafia then they do as town.

Himalayas was a game i actually followed from the beginning to the end and when bugs replaced out he was one of my strongest townreads. When you get into the game i was like "yeah this ruxxar dude is definitely mafia because he is making sense but not really saying/doing anything". I also read Gaiden to some extent, and to be honest i thought you were town because from the beginning rsoultin was screaming red to me, apparently i read you town for your bus, as i only read your posts from something like D4 (when you were double bussing). I also think i read a start of some game you were town in and the difference of your town/scum play is like a fucking day and night.

Anyways, you aren't making any sense so it probably makes you town.

On August 01 2015 08:13 Damdred wrote:
Where everyone go

On August 01 2015 08:42 Damdred wrote:
Basically if we live in the world of never lynching people who voted nm off we have to lynch sulf n00b and rux and I don't believe it's that easy

On August 01 2015 18:05 Rels wrote:
...but ruxxar feels very townie...