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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 16 2015 06:28 GMT
#7181
On July 16 2015 15:24 Holyflare wrote:
Like I've repeated for the 5th time. Omgus is not part of the obi case. The newer obi post i made is great too since it's a giant collection of proof.


it was. you said there was a difference between how he does it as town and scum. i'm not seeing things, hf -_-

it's a giant collection of posts with your name in them xP i just did it myself. yay ctrl+f

i expect the upper one to look similar when/if i ctrl+f clarity's name

you don't like that he was looking for another lynch given his omgus, and you don't like that he's not scumreading clarity for his read on you

your mountain of proof in a nutshell

that second looks more like he's trying to get his point across and i'm not sure why you assume he should be scumreading clarity for it?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
July 16 2015 06:30 GMT
#7182
WaveofShadow posting in random discussion thread in TL Mafia but not caring while Holyflare is lynched.

What about all of the people scumreading me for doing nothing after a game as scum, which happened to be the same last game that WaveofShadow played.....

Lazy or no, I just can't imagine town!WaveofShadow being THIS disinterested while Holyflare is up for lynch? Or is this within his play?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2015 06:31 GMT
#7183
On July 16 2015 15:27 Trfel wrote:
Okay, yeah, ObiWanShinobi does seem to talk about a bunch of different reads at different times, and doesn't really flow smoothly between them.

I'll check some meta, but if someone can show that this strongly indicates that ObiWanShinobi is scum, that would be good to know. Because while it is scummy, I don't find it convincing enough by itself.


He said it was scummy that i called out marv which I've definitely done before. He got schooled by someone for thinking it. He dropped it and every new mention of me and rsoultin is towny or it meant nothing. No scum reads at all. It doesn't need to be mentioned if he doesn't mention me as mafia past the first post he made d1 and then never again, it means his read didn't exist.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 16 2015 06:33 GMT
#7184
On July 16 2015 15:30 Trfel wrote:
WaveofShadow posting in random discussion thread in TL Mafia but not caring while Holyflare is lynched.

What about all of the people scumreading me for doing nothing after a game as scum, which happened to be the same last game that WaveofShadow played.....

Lazy or no, I just can't imagine town!WaveofShadow being THIS disinterested while Holyflare is up for lynch? Or is this within his play?


no earthly clue -_- i know for a fact he takes way more pride in his scum game than his town game (we had the conversation months ago playing league) which was why i was willing to accept people's meta-read on him

i don't know that this means he's incapable of burning out, though?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 16 2015 06:34 GMT
#7185
On July 16 2015 15:31 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2015 15:27 Trfel wrote:
Okay, yeah, ObiWanShinobi does seem to talk about a bunch of different reads at different times, and doesn't really flow smoothly between them.

I'll check some meta, but if someone can show that this strongly indicates that ObiWanShinobi is scum, that would be good to know. Because while it is scummy, I don't find it convincing enough by itself.


He said it was scummy that i called out marv which I've definitely done before. He got schooled by someone for thinking it. He dropped it and every new mention of me and rsoultin is towny or it meant nothing. No scum reads at all. It doesn't need to be mentioned if he doesn't mention me as mafia past the first post he made d1 and then never again, it means his read didn't exist.


didn't he start calling you mafia after you started pushing him? isn't that the definition of omgus? am i getting something wrong, because that's what it looked like to me
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2015 06:37 GMT
#7186
On July 16 2015 15:28 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2015 15:24 Holyflare wrote:
Like I've repeated for the 5th time. Omgus is not part of the obi case. The newer obi post i made is great too since it's a giant collection of proof.


it was. you said there was a difference between how he does it as town and scum. i'm not seeing things, hf -_-

it's a giant collection of posts with your name in them xP i just did it myself. yay ctrl+f

i expect the upper one to look similar when/if i ctrl+f clarity's name

you don't like that he was looking for another lynch given his omgus, and you don't like that he's not scumreading clarity for his read on you

your mountain of proof in a nutshell

that second looks more like he's trying to get his point across and i'm not sure why you assume he should be scumreading clarity for it?


Why are you incapable of making such simple leaps of logic this game? If obi has scum read clarity the entire game. That read suddenly disappears and then clarity hard defends obi' s new scum read even though a million people are telling clarity it's wrong. What would your reaction be? Obi's is that his scum read of clarity meant something and he should have pushed it but then he drops it like a led balloon. Even though clarity still blindly sticks to that read.

Who is obi's scum read? VA for playing like VA. Originally he even said it would be a spite vote too so it's not even true that he scum reads VA but for some reason now he does and it's totally obvious we are hard defending each other.

He also refuses to even answer a simple question about what his reads were pre me and VA which i would absolutely love to hear.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2015 06:38 GMT
#7187
On July 16 2015 15:34 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2015 15:31 Holyflare wrote:
On July 16 2015 15:27 Trfel wrote:
Okay, yeah, ObiWanShinobi does seem to talk about a bunch of different reads at different times, and doesn't really flow smoothly between them.

I'll check some meta, but if someone can show that this strongly indicates that ObiWanShinobi is scum, that would be good to know. Because while it is scummy, I don't find it convincing enough by itself.


He said it was scummy that i called out marv which I've definitely done before. He got schooled by someone for thinking it. He dropped it and every new mention of me and rsoultin is towny or it meant nothing. No scum reads at all. It doesn't need to be mentioned if he doesn't mention me as mafia past the first post he made d1 and then never again, it means his read didn't exist.


didn't he start calling you mafia after you started pushing him? isn't that the definition of omgus? am i getting something wrong, because that's what it looked like to me


No someone in passing said i had obi in a poe list and he said I'm obviously mafia
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
July 16 2015 06:38 GMT
#7188
On July 08 2015 00:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Hf's giant list of people he has no idea about really bothers me.
Same thing when geript does it.
On July 08 2015 00:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 00:07 Holyflare wrote:
On July 08 2015 00:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Hf's giant list of people he has no idea about really bothers me.
Same thing when geript does it.


if you have an idea about any of those people then feel free to contribute


It's not the fact that you have no idea about them.
It's the fact that you keep namedropping so many people as to make them look suspicious.

I'm not lynching you today over a useless person but it's something I'm going to keep in mind.
On July 08 2015 00:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 00:11 Holyflare wrote:
like "hf looks weird for name dropping the people he thinks are scummy when asked for a list of people he thinks are scummy"

is that what you're saying obi?


Too many names for not enough reasons.

But if you feel like dumbing down my argument and saying that it's about you responding about scumlists, then sure.
On July 10 2015 13:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 13:11 rsoultin wrote:
already said scott -_-

damdy
milo
hf
ruxx
????


Add scott to your scumlist.
(impled acceptance of Holyflare scumread)

I think it's reasonable enough for town to scumread Holyflare and then ignore that scumread for a few days to tackle other things first/wait for night kills.

Ugh, I just don't know....
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2015 06:39 GMT
#7189
On July 16 2015 15:30 Trfel wrote:
WaveofShadow posting in random discussion thread in TL Mafia but not caring while Holyflare is lynched.

What about all of the people scumreading me for doing nothing after a game as scum, which happened to be the same last game that WaveofShadow played.....

Lazy or no, I just can't imagine town!WaveofShadow being THIS disinterested while Holyflare is up for lynch? Or is this within his play?


I can certainly imagine it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2015 06:41 GMT
#7190
Look I'm not even sure of this obi read myself dude. It's pretty solid but it doesn't necessarily make him mafia and i just want him to answer the shit he keeps dodging.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 16 2015 06:41 GMT
#7191
On July 16 2015 14:47 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2015 14:44 rsoultin wrote:
On July 16 2015 14:40 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:
On July 16 2015 14:38 rsoultin wrote:
On July 16 2015 14:37 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:
well that was also the first thought that entered my head when i read my role because i didnt look at role list beforehand, so its relevant


nope


What is nope? I don't see why anyone wants me to explain anything if they dont follow that same mantra. At least dont all be massive hypocrites.


nope as in anyone can read the op, go look vt has investigator in the role, and make that post

it's a ridiculous thing to townread someone for beyond maaaaaybe the very start of the game and an even more ridiculous thing to still be townreading someone for as your main reason

i didn't realize that was what you were referring to -_- and i know i've already commented on this and frankly this "oh i thought that too!" crap always makes me roll my eyes


frankly I think you are only refuting it because you do not want HF to be townread, the game is over with HF and mine mislynches. You can already see the game leaning that way as people slowly start consolidating their scum reads to me and hf out of nowhere.


This is weird like dont you scumread me? I jsut said i dont wanna lynch HF
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2015 06:41 GMT
#7192
On July 16 2015 15:41 Holyflare wrote:
Look I'm not even sure of this obi read myself dude. It's pretty solid but it doesn't necessarily make him mafia and i just want him to answer the shit he keeps dodging.


I mean the points about his read on clarity are really good. The rest is just gravy.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 16 2015 06:42 GMT
#7193
like its fairly simple why i flipped on Hf a little obi, im a sucker for people who engage with me. I dont know why you are flipping a shit.

Rsoul how behind in the game are you?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2015 06:45 GMT
#7194
We should totally just no lynch twice for the infos and extra night we get
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 16 2015 06:46 GMT
#7195
actually yeah, he's waffled all over the place on the clarity read, especially this phase. that's honestly probably the only thing apart from looking for another lynch when you were afk that actually holds any water, frankly

i don't really see how he can go from
- clarity is giving him too easy townreads
to
- should look more into him
to
- doubt you need to look into clarity, rsoul

^ obi, can you explain where you're at with clarity and how it fits into that progression?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
July 16 2015 06:46 GMT
#7196
I feel useless

But I'm actually starting to think that maybe Holyflare is town?

I'll read the opening of Guardians again...
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 16 2015 06:48 GMT
#7197
On July 16 2015 15:42 Breshke wrote:
like its fairly simple why i flipped on Hf a little obi, im a sucker for people who engage with me. I dont know why you are flipping a shit.

Rsoul how behind in the game are you?


i'm not? i'm behind in the work i usually put into a game that y'all never see much of, just the results from lol >< should have been in bed half an hour ago

right now my main concern is seeing if hf's case on obi has any validity
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 16 2015 06:48 GMT
#7198
I think obi is town now because it makes no sense for him to talk about stress if hes mafia.
Like the irritation im getting from him seems super real and mafia wont be irritated since hf is the clear lynch today.
No gg, No skill.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2015 06:49 GMT
#7199
Lol trfel the fact is I'm an enigma that plays mafia based on the whim of my emotions regardless of my alignment.

Ruxxar is only not a town read for me because his town case on me is scarily accurate that it might be one of those mafia cases on a town meta things. I'm best read based on what i push and how i react in situations. Being pissed off at rsoul just makes my play irrational, not mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2015 06:50 GMT
#7200
On July 16 2015 15:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
I think obi is town now because it makes no sense for him to talk about stress if hes mafia.
Like the irritation im getting from him seems super real and mafia wont be irritated since hf is the clear lynch today.


So who is mafia? :p
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