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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 07 2015 12:28 GMT
#2005
On July 07 2015 21:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 21:18 Palmar wrote:
On July 07 2015 21:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 07 2015 21:14 Palmar wrote:
~~

I'm doing a face and wondering if I should call oats mafia.

I'm not sure

But this feels awful.

not you too.

the madness is infectious.

But lets discuss.

Do you think my questions are "thread derailing" and "irrelevant"?

What thread was there to derail even?

I don't even care about that part. I have no idea what you asked him.

wait so what "feels awful"?


Your choice of calling his read opportunistic.

First of all his read can only be opportunistic if he is mafia. Town doesn't do opportunistic because by definition they will only jump things they actually believe in. Only mafia can have a cause without reason, because reason leads town to cause.

However, if your own perception is that the read is opportunistic, you must have believed he had an opportunity. Something that he could actually call out. I assume this opportunity that you think he had is you asking him these questions, and thus the opportunistic read is to call you mafia for asking them.

The problem I have with that is, it embeds another layer of why he should be mafia from your point of view. Not only does he randomly call you mafia for no good reason, he also flat out refuses talking about things that in your judgement are relevant to the thread. If all of this is true it's astonishing that anyone could be higher priority for lynching from your point of view than him, which is why it's strange that you want to lynch geript anyway.

I haven't read the case on geript you have, but man this one looks like it should be a solid case.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 07 2015 12:29 GMT
#2006
On July 07 2015 21:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On July 07 2015 21:20 Palmar wrote:
On July 07 2015 21:13 Oatsmaster wrote:

If you make a scumlist, I am gonna assume that you think they are all on the same team.
If so, I would like to know the connecting pieces.
Especially for the 2 pairs you chose.

Well if you think that hf and trfel are mafia together I would like to know why.

same goes for clarity and wave considering they have significant interactions with each other.



Actually this is complete bullshit but I'm not sure you're good enough to know that even if you happen to be town. Asking for connecting pieces between two people he has individually identified as mafia or scummy is flat out ridiculous. The connecting pieces may, depending on the quality of play by mafia, not even exist. Or he may also simply be wrong on one person from a pair or something.

Unless there's backstory to this, this is awful.

Like I think clarity and you may be mafia. I actually think WoS may be too, and maybe this scott guy. Do you need me to write an essay on how these are interconnected?

No, however the 4 people he picked can easily be split into 2 pairs because of their interactions and I was wondering if boxer had any thoughts on the connections between them, because the reasons he is calling them mafia involve them interacting with the other pair on the list.

Does this make sense too?


No, show me an example.

To me associative reads are dumb and useless.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 07 2015 13:47 GMT
#2045
Oh Bill Murray is in the game.

There's a good lynch.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 07 2015 14:35 GMT
#2081
On July 07 2015 22:49 marvellosity wrote:
tbh i still think ritoky is mafia.

could lynch BM but it feels like it would be a disaster if he flipped town.

Why disaster? If we lynch a shitty useless town BM I would shrug and move on. Where is the disaster?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 07 2015 15:40 GMT
#2186
I need to read Trfel at some point. He has a history of being a fantastically easy townread and now I see multiple people questioning him.

EBH is top town
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 07 2015 15:42 GMT
#2194
On July 08 2015 00:41 marvellosity wrote:
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On July 08 2015 00:40 Palmar wrote:
I need to read Trfel at some point. He has a history of being a fantastically easy townread and now I see multiple people questioning him.

EBH is top town

why?

He literally accused someone of being a member of a knitting circle.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 07 2015 15:52 GMT
#2215
If ritoky flips mafia I'm claiming the credit.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 07 2015 15:52 GMT
#2216
my name is first on the voting list.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 07 2015 16:26 GMT
#2267
On July 08 2015 01:25 Holyflare wrote:
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On July 08 2015 01:23 marvellosity wrote:
just to repeat my earlier request: if anyone can point to posts from ritoky that give you pause to think he might be town, please speak now


the last 5 posts of page 2 of his filter and all page 3 of his filter

Don't care, this is now a "lynch cop claims on day 1" policy lynch.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 08 2015 10:37 GMT
#3303
Milo ís my town buddy

MZ on the other hand deserves to die as a punishment for me not noticing he is in the game. But then again so did BM
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 08 2015 20:59 GMT
#3571
Is the deadline now?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 08 2015 21:01 GMT
#3575
ok I'll play some dota or something then.

I need to see if my NKs go through.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 08 2015 21:05 GMT
#3579
On July 09 2015 06:01 Harkon wrote:
So Palmar, will you start playing at some point?

I have been playing!
Computer says mafia
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