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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 07 2015 11:18 GMT
#1911
On July 07 2015 12:42 Breshke wrote:
I also think scott is probably mafia.

His reads list was lackluster and jsut seems to be some surface level stuff without actually trying to work anything out.

The only interesting thing is this

Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 05:26 scott31337 wrote:
I'm thinking I like a milo lynch -

On July 06 2015 11:48 milo109 wrote:
Damn, I want to follow Oats to victory. Let me be the first to call it out from the hilltops, and let all those with pure hearts rejoice, Oatsmaster is town.


Then Ruxxar has this post -

On July 06 2015 12:03 ruXxar wrote:
Oatsy <3

I like where you're going so far.
You're showing determination in your play.
That's what I wanna see from you.

Is there a difference between your mafia scum reads, or is everyone you call mafia equally mafia?


Oats and Milo call out Ruxxar's post, but Oats does not call out Milo's post for townreading him for his "name mafia" posts. Very interesting. I'm townreading Ruxxar but not Oats and Milo.

We still have two people who haven't even posted (Zipph and Elite69) for all we know they could be two out of the five mafia right there.

The rest of his filter basically has "Damd mafia" "Keis mafia" "Oats town".


But it feels like he is reaching and i don't really get why the AFK's get a mention halfway through.


Here it is. Initially I read this post because Breshke was throwing around weird "general" type accusations like:

"His reads list was lackluster"
"some surface level stuff without actually trying to work anything out"
"But it feels like he is reaching"

Like this is why I'm only half liking breshke even though I sorta like his case. This is the type of accusations people make when they don't know what they should be saying. But it's both conceivable that Breshke made this shit up as mafia, and that he simply doesn't quite know how to present his findings as town.

As almost an afterthought I read scott's post that Breshke highlighted and it's really a terrible post. The biggest thing I'm worried about is that it seems rather unlikely that scott would try to call out the entire mafia team like that if he is mafia.

So... as I write this I'm officially waffling.

idk what to think about either of them.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 07 2015 11:18 GMT
#1912
On July 07 2015 20:14 marvellosity wrote:
Wave isn't a bad lynch. I can't point to a single post in his filter that i don't think he could easily make as mafia.

anyone agree/disagree?

Didn't know wave was playing but he was really obvious mafia last time I played with him, I'll actually read some.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 07 2015 11:22 GMT
#1914
Tbh, if clarity is mafia it's because in literally the second post in the game he said holyflare claiming VT in the first post of the game is somehow "interesting".

It's not interesting, people do this shit every fucking game and no one should give a fuck. The fact he tried to appear interested in something so completely and obviously worthless (nevermind that HF is the worst "dick around with claims" offender on TL) is actually kinda scummy and the reason I threw my vote on him yesterday.

Like I think it's sort of mafia like but I don't know if I can convince people that calling something interesting that isn't interesting is a solid case for someone being mafia.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 07 2015 11:23 GMT
#1915
Like that's a really long winded way of saying, if you want to lynch clarity I'm on your team.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 07 2015 11:28 GMT
#1916
On July 06 2015 12:46 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 12:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
What has been said about clarity?


The way that he hard defended holy fire and then used "but a mafia wouldn't do this" to excuse his actions.
I think that sounds pre-planned.
I got a scum vibe off that.

This guy is town hero btw, I think I already said so.

Found this looking for the clarity/WoS thing.

But to be fair, WoS did try to somewhat defend Clarity. Although I don't know if that's exactly what marv meant with his thing.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 07 2015 11:30 GMT
#1918
On July 07 2015 20:29 milo109 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 20:19 marvellosity wrote:
On July 07 2015 20:18 marvellosity wrote:
I'm kinda going through filters in a terribly haphazard way.
On July 06 2015 23:24 Clarity_nl wrote:
Going over WoS again and he talked a little about his townread on me I don't like him as a lynch at the moment.
##Unvote

This is really really weird.

Wave really did no such thing. I can't possibly understand how this can be the basis for an unvote.

i'm just going to quote myself because i think this is really notable and i'd like to know if i'm alone in this, it could be pretty important.

That is odd. Someone town reading you is not a reason to do the same. Mafia do have to town read town.

That's super situational though. If someone townreads you for the right reasons it makes you feel super warm and fuzzy.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 07 2015 11:42 GMT
#1929
On July 07 2015 20:35 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 20:28 Palmar wrote:
On July 06 2015 12:46 ruXxar wrote:
On July 06 2015 12:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
What has been said about clarity?


The way that he hard defended holy fire and then used "but a mafia wouldn't do this" to excuse his actions.
I think that sounds pre-planned.
I got a scum vibe off that.

This guy is town hero btw, I think I already said so.

Found this looking for the clarity/WoS thing.

But to be fair, WoS did try to somewhat defend Clarity. Although I don't know if that's exactly what marv meant with his thing.

My point is this. So Clarity voted Wave at some stage.

Wave originally said "clarity is town, tryhard as fuck"

later when asked to elaborate on the read by HF, he said
Show nested quote +
Narp
The effort feels towny


That's all that Wave says on Clarity.

Clarity goes on to unvote Wave because "he talked a little about his townread on me" so he doens't like the lynch?

How on earth is that Wave talking about the townread at all?
...


So, I'm just jumping back and forth so my timeline may be off, and tbh I'm mostly doing this to force you to double check yourself, but I think he's talking about this:

On July 06 2015 12:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
What has been said about clarity?


On July 06 2015 12:46 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 12:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
What has been said about clarity?


The way that he hard defended holy fire and then used "but a mafia wouldn't do this" to excuse his actions.
I think that sounds pre-planned.
I got a scum vibe off that.


On July 06 2015 12:50 WaveofShadow wrote:
'Pre planned' is dumb
Nobody actually does that


On July 06 2015 12:55 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 12:50 WaveofShadow wrote:
'Pre planned' is dumb
Nobody actually does that


It's kinda like avoiding the topic though.
If someone asks you why you said something and your response is "I wouldn't say that as mafia", then that seems more like a last line of defense rather than explaining why you actually said something.


On July 06 2015 12:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 12:55 ruXxar wrote:
On July 06 2015 12:50 WaveofShadow wrote:
'Pre planned' is dumb
Nobody actually does that


It's kinda like avoiding the topic though.
If someone asks you why you said something and your response is "I wouldn't say that as mafia", then that seems more like a last line of defense rather than explaining why you actually said something.

There's a difference between saying 'I wouldn't do this as mafia' and 'mafia wouldn't do this' in general.
One is self meta and super shit.
One is actually attempting to think.

reading his post I actually don't think I know which that is


On July 06 2015 13:03 ruXxar wrote:
Do you find it strange that he's scum reading you for town reading him?


On July 06 2015 13:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 13:03 ruXxar wrote:
Do you find it strange that he's scum reading you for town reading him?

Not particularly


Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 07 2015 11:46 GMT
#1939
This may be remembered as the worst read in the history of TL but the fact marv didn't bother to actually fact check that his case wasn't complete and utter shit makes me think he's probably town.

I'm literally giving him a townread for failing
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 07 2015 11:49 GMT
#1946
read my post HtS. Marv case was based on something not existing that in fact did exist.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 07 2015 11:49 GMT
#1948
I feel so useful right now.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 07 2015 11:52 GMT
#1953
No clarity can still be mafia for thinking HF claiming is interesting.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 07 2015 11:58 GMT
#1960
idk I remember thinking milo was town.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 07 2015 11:58 GMT
#1961
But I've done enough useful for now so I'm going to not do anything for a bit.þ
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 07 2015 12:07 GMT
#1974
On July 07 2015 21:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 21:02 boxerfred wrote:
Oats' filter is full of useless garbage, too. Plus he's asking me strange questions that show that he didn't read too well. Chimes in every now and then which really looks like drive-by posting. Followed my clarity vote early on but switched to rsoul because of a pure bullshit "xP" theory.

I'll add Oats to my scum lean list.

Lol nice oppurtunstic scumread .


Why do you think boxerfred is mafia Oats?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 07 2015 12:11 GMT
#1980
So we should lynch boxerfred then Oats?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 07 2015 12:14 GMT
#1985
~~

I'm doing a face and wondering if I should call oats mafia.

I'm not sure

But this feels awful.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 07 2015 12:15 GMT
#1988
On July 07 2015 21:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
Palmar, what exactly made you like my early day 1 posts?


Can't even remember. But can probably find it if I go back and look.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 07 2015 12:18 GMT
#1993
On July 07 2015 21:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 21:14 Palmar wrote:
~~

I'm doing a face and wondering if I should call oats mafia.

I'm not sure

But this feels awful.

not you too.

the madness is infectious.

But lets discuss.

Do you think my questions are "thread derailing" and "irrelevant"?

What thread was there to derail even?

I don't even care about that part. I have no idea what you asked him.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 07 2015 12:20 GMT
#1996
On July 07 2015 21:13 Oatsmaster wrote:

If you make a scumlist, I am gonna assume that you think they are all on the same team.
If so, I would like to know the connecting pieces.
Especially for the 2 pairs you chose.

Well if you think that hf and trfel are mafia together I would like to know why.

same goes for clarity and wave considering they have significant interactions with each other.



Actually this is complete bullshit but I'm not sure you're good enough to know that even if you happen to be town. Asking for connecting pieces between two people he has individually identified as mafia or scummy is flat out ridiculous. The connecting pieces may, depending on the quality of play by mafia, not even exist. Or he may also simply be wrong on one person from a pair or something.

Unless there's backstory to this, this is awful.

Like I think clarity and you may be mafia. I actually think WoS may be too, and maybe this scott guy. Do you need me to write an essay on how these are interconnected?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 07 2015 12:22 GMT
#1999
On July 07 2015 21:21 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 21:11 Palmar wrote:
So we should lynch boxerfred then Oats?


Why is boxerfred scum?

He isn't, I'm interrogating Oats.

Pay attention please if you're gonna butt in.
Computer says mafia
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