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boxerfred
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On July 22 2015 00:19 Oatsmaster wrote: yeah im 100% not lynching bf, dont waste your time. claritys post implies two things. a) he's considering lynching me, no great news, b) he's putting light pressure on rsoul which i see as a foolish bus attempt. if we're not lynching between rsoul and clarity we're dead. | ||
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boxerfred
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On July 22 2015 01:58 Clarity_nl wrote: Reading comprehension must be hard. Anyway, as per my win condition I gotta try and lynch bf and hope he's scum, so placing my vote there and you guys can decide. Don't see the point in putting in more effort ##Vote boxerfred Okay, so. I did not put any effort in since 2 days, so much is clear. The only way you're saying that I'm illogical is because of that point where I switched off of HF and decided to sheep him. That's what I still do. I'm consistent on sheeping him, consistent in voting rsoul. What is illogical is that you say "fuck you" to me, then do some obscure "I'll show you how to play the game once it's over", repeat that you still think I'm town although you're also repeatingly saying that I'm scum, then throwing your vote on me because "well I hope he's scum"? Like that makes no sense! You're trying to act reasonable last days, ever since there was so much pressure on you day 2 or 3 you acted very reasonable, I even town leaned you for that. Also, your vote is simply irrelevant! There's no way I'm getting lynched today, like it makes no sense! If you really want to lynch me, you need to convince people. Saying "I hope he's scum" does not convince people! Is it so hard for you to simply vote rsoultin? I mean it's between you and her and if you are freaking town and you think she might be scum (because that's what you said some posts ago!), why aren't you confident in switching to her? I really don't get it! Voting her would a) save yourself, b) make it a high chance that a scum member gets killed. Even if it's a mislynch, we get more information because 2 KPs do not leave much room for interpretation then! The only way your vote would make sense would be either on rsoultin or on you. Since I don't see you voting yourself, you should just vote rsoultin. | ||
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boxerfred
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On July 22 2015 03:06 Clarity_nl wrote: Because bf is gonna lynch me eventually so either he dies and flips red or town loses. I don't see the point in prolonging it. Thus far, all I wanna do is lynch freakin' rsoultin. I didn't switch for you once. Hell you're my top2 scum read, yes, but there's still a way to disprove that read. However playing totally weird after you tried to make an impression of "I'm playing reasonably" does do anything, neither for town in general nor for yourself. Not at all. I insist: vote rsoultin. | ||
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On July 22 2015 03:47 boxerfred wrote: I even would like to lynch HtS over you if we lynch a scum member today because I really don't wanna be with her in LYLO. Like, scum was actually really stupid to kill Breshke. There was no way he'd be confirmed and he'd be a great town to have in LYLO. Or did I miss something that 100% confirmed his claim? I don't think so. 3) WaveofShadow (filter) 4) Clarity_nl (filter) 5) ruXxar (filter) 10) boxerfred (filter) 12) Trfel (filter) 19) Oatsmaster (filter) 21) rsoultin (filter) 22) Half The Sky (filter) 25) XEliteBlueHunter69X (filter) This is my world. Next night, two variables will be removed if we don't lynch a KP carrier today. I don't want to be in LYLO with the following people: 3) WaveofShadow (filter) 22) Half The Sky (filter) 25) XEliteBlueHunter69X (filter) Because while I think HtS is scum, I still see a world where she is not. However this is like a 10% chance . Concerning WoS, he pretty much disappeared. Frustrated town or yolo scum, dunno. EBH - no clue. He made a very bluehunty post and I got told my first newbie game that this is a huge scum indicator. Cannot tell. I feel like a HtS town flip would make EBH being scum more likely, call it an obscure feeling if you will. I'm giving Oats a town lean. Not really sure, would rethink my lean on him if HtS does not flip scum. However, my world completely depends on HtS flipping. I don't like that. | ||
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boxerfred
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On July 22 2015 03:51 Clarity_nl wrote: I said fuck you once and it was under an entirely different context, if you wanna hold that against me for your entire life that's your prerogative. For what it's worth I should not have said that. You are simply not willing to consider anything that contradicts what you've said to that point, it's been the only consistent thing about you this game. I'm not willing to vote rsoultin, hope she's scum, and push her as hard as I can just so you can lynch me the day after or the day after that. We can't have any mislynches regardless of us lynching scum. So these are my options: - Convince you you're wrong - Lynch you and hope you're scum Seeing as only of these is reasonable, there is no choice. Like I said I'm not really bothered at this point. The afk townies have been very demoralizing. I wish I had the energy to fight tooth and nail for the next 24h but I do not. No - you said "fuck you" in exactly the same context you're now saying I'm illogical - because of my argumentation and our dialogue when I changed on HF. Regarding the second bolded: I don't understand that. If we lynch rsoul and she flips town, why would people follow me in lynching you? So that leaves me that you don't wanna lynch her because of a "hope". Well if so, why are you willing to lynch me although you lean me town then? You said you'd lynch me because of a "hope", you even voted me! Why not rsoultin? I don't even want you to push her (go ahead if you want to), I actually want you to sheep me. Regarding mislynches: I think we have one mislynch left, don't we? 8 Players alive. 1 ML. 7 Players alive. 2 kills at night. 5 players alive. 1 Scum lynch 4 players alive 1 kill at night 3 Players alive. LYLO. ... | ||
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boxerfred
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On July 22 2015 03:54 Clarity_nl wrote: The fact that you think the three most active players are all scum together speaks volumes. HtS' filter is shorter than Oats filter and I don't think Oats spammed a lot. Also if you're arguing with filters, why exactly did you lynch HF who had the biggest and most active filter of all? | ||
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boxerfred
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On July 22 2015 03:59 Clarity_nl wrote: 6 town 3 scum, mislynch = 5 town 3 scum, 2 kp = ????? Ah right, all scum can carry KP. That makes it even more important to kill rsoul tonight. Why aren't you simply following that? | ||
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boxerfred
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On July 22 2015 03:59 Clarity_nl wrote: If you lynch rsoul and she flips town we lose you dingus Stop ad hom. So would we do if we lynch anyone and he'd flip town. However I feel like it's really likely she'll flip scum. She was under pressure for reasons quite some days, she was the one pushing the lynch on Holyflare, thus killing a player who'd have been really dangerous for scum, she's experienced enough to know what a danger HF could've been, and ever since HF is dead, she's not nearly putting in as much effort although it's now even more important to kill scum! What's your problem with killing her?! | ||
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boxerfred
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On July 22 2015 04:05 Clarity_nl wrote: OK apparently this is too hard for you to wrap your head around, so I'll explain it one more time. I don't think you're capable of changing your mind on me. I literally think you are incapable of that. That doesn't mean you're a bad person, or that you're dumb, but what it does mean is that town loses unless you are scum. I'd rather lose today than 120 hours from now. If we lynch rsoultin and she flips red we're still gonna be at mylo. If we then lynch trfel and he flips red we're still at mylo, and then you're still going to lynch me. I don't actually think you're scum, you literally just had another dumbtell regarding how scum kp works, but it doesn't matter. So you are saying the game is lost. If you end up with me in LYLO, you say I vote you, losing the game for town. If we lynch town today, it's lost. So all to hope for is that scum kills you or me, right? Your best shot of having a chance to win is then lynching rsoul and hope for a scum flip. And then hope for me changing my mind. Can you do this? Because if not, you'll probably be lynched today and if you flip town, we're losing. | ||
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boxerfred
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That is a) a dumb town play or b) a freaking huge scum indicator. | ||
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On July 22 2015 04:13 Half the Sky wrote: Boxerfred are you reading the bloody thread? Breshke flipped on the day post. And he claimed and claim conditions whilst unusual made sense given his standing in the game (not widely townread, not as influential and not as great a threat as town). You are considering associations between myself and others. But they make zero sense because of what I did at EoD. What other than this fear read makes me Mafia? What prior to EoD day 5 made me Mafia? How are Ras and I on the same team when I failed to hammer EBH? Why is EBH Mafia besides his first post? You have so many questions to answer its not funny. Bolded part is simply wrong. I have that fear/meta read. I said multiple times I'm not sure. You're not even in discussion for a lynch right now so calm down. Please don't defend now for something that stayed the same since like 3 or 4 days because currently, my read on you actually is irrelevant to the current day. You failed to hammer EBH, that's true. At this point, 9 players were alive. Mislynch on EBH would've made it 8. KP 6. Scum down, 5. Night, 2 kills, 3 left, with 2 scum. That would have won the game for scum (if I'm correct this time). If I'm correct, the only world where you're scum would be a world where you failed to vote because of the reasons you stated, as scum. Whoa shit, that's really tinfoilhatty. Or am I wrong on my death calculation? | ||
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On July 22 2015 04:23 Clarity_nl wrote: Basically mislynching and nolynching were equal for town, so town lost information by nolynching. Also this again is an indicator for a scum hts. | ||
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boxerfred
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On July 22 2015 04:28 Clarity_nl wrote: But I'm convinced hts is town for what it's worth. Would you give a list of alive people with your opinions on them? | ||
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boxerfred
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On July 22 2015 04:30 Clarity_nl wrote: Nah, scum!hts would hammer a scumpartner in that situation (doesnt give town more lynches) and just ride towncred to victory. I believe she messed up on her phone and I believe it's alignment indicative -> she's town. Plenty of time to talk about this later. That's a great thought yo. | ||
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boxerfred
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On July 23 2015 02:09 Clarity_nl wrote: Sorry my posts are so scattered. I don't think content is the word I would describe when it comes to my lynch. Given how ad hom you went on me and how emotional you got before it feels really strange how you seem to fade away now. | ||
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