EPTTL Mafia LXXI: Gaiden - Page 12
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someone read my interactions with milo here with the mindset that trfel is town but being scum read and tell me what you think | ||
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On July 07 2015 23:42 Holyflare wrote: i don't think scott is mafia ok nvm that was a hasty 1 database mafia game read where he had less than a page of filter but his others aren't like that so nvm, I still don't hate his posts that much though | ||
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On July 07 2015 03:40 scott31337 wrote: This looks really familiar - throw out some suspicions, and then work on your agenda. I don't like this post at all. Did you read how he came to that conclusion? It made a lot of sense to me - mindmeldy... I like HF for more then the VT claim - also his interaction with rsoul. Good case - could sheep... This was posted while marv/ksc/hard were on rsoul, and I'm pretty confident it was to throw off discussion. I know it was a joke but was it to get distracted off of rsoul? It sure feels that way... I'm only at page 58 - here's my spreedsheet of love. 1) Marvellosity townie after the morning 2) Scott31337 town 3) WaveofShadow Voted HF weirdly 4) Clarity_nl mixed it with HF / slight town 5) ruXxar slight town 6) Vivax Meh/null of scum defends trfel 7) Bill Murray wanderer claim 8) ritoky slight town 9) geript slight town 10) boxerfred null meh posts fakeclaim cop to distract from rsoul. 11) Meapak_Ziphh 12) Trfel Crap start but can be a big poster too 13) LightningStrike Meh/Damdred brings up good conclusions on his meta / looking up cases 14) Palmar Called boxerfred town which I don’t like/believe in 15) ObiWanShinobi Bad vote on HF / scumlean 16) KelsierSC Trying to think the game / townlean 17) milo109 scumlean ,towns HF / Oats / Wave 18) Breshke Ehh 19) Oatsmaster Says Clarity /WoS mafia 20) Damdred Slight town going after LS 21) rsoultin not a great defense when pressured, scumlean 22) Half The Sky miller claim / decent listpost 23) Harkon Smurf - maybe JAT? Ehhh 24) Holyflare Mindmelt opening - town 25) XEliteBlueHunter69X I'll be back in a couple hours after I eat and finish the thread. you'll say it's a shit reason but this list post was like exactly my thoughts on the game - the ritoky thing which was weird | ||
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On July 07 2015 23:27 Holyflare wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/488082-tl-mafia-lxxi-gaiden?page=84#1674 someone read my interactions with milo here with the mindset that trfel is town but being scum read and tell me what you think still want more people to do this (it's more than just the page i linked, it's like 2 or 3 pages) | ||
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The rest maybe has merit though. | ||
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On July 08 2015 00:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Hf's giant list of people he has no idea about really bothers me. Same thing when geript does it. if you have an idea about any of those people then feel free to contribute | ||
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On July 08 2015 00:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote: It's not the fact that you have no idea about them. It's the fact that you keep namedropping so many people as to make them look suspicious. I'm not lynching you today over a useless person but it's something I'm going to keep in mind. when do i name drop people out of the blue? i've given reads about pretty much all of those people | ||
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is that what you're saying obi? | ||
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On July 07 2015 23:45 Holyflare wrote: still want more people to do this (it's more than just the page i linked, it's like 2 or 3 pages) | ||
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On July 08 2015 00:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Too many names for not enough reasons. But if you feel like dumbing down my argument and saying that it's about you responding about scumlists, then sure. and how have my reads got no reasons? did you even ask for my reasons? i think i've explained pretty much that entire list during my filter | ||
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On July 08 2015 00:15 Half the Sky wrote: Distinctly false. I pushed ritoky as well, and I still think he's scum now. This is part of what I mean about selective reasoning. Also the point on BM, he didn't do jack all in Himalayas, but in this game, he posted the wanderer claim and then AFKed. That's the difference here. I was willing to believe it when he first posted but I also had an expectation there'd be more from him. I don't even know what disingenuous even means but there's a difference here that is worthy being pointed out - if he is going to claim a town role, does he have the behaviour to back it up or is he just skating by? Marv is saying (from prior knowledge) it's possible. So calling that read poor is also pretty selective reasoning on HF's end. If he had posted nothing at all then HF might have a valid point against me. Obviously BM runs the risk of being modkilled but seeing this I needed to respond. That also said, I do agree that a BM lynch, if town, will also gain no information. Yes, none of those pushes were distinctly inspiring and you say things that you think several times (in regards to me specifically) that you never have any intention of ever following up on so in all honestly it looks like you're adding fuel to the fire whenever someone mentions my name just for the sake of doing it. It also doesn't align with what's been happening in the thread at all. As for BM: On July 07 2015 23:05 Holyflare wrote: oh right yeh bm posted On July 07 2015 23:06 Holyflare wrote: but yeh hts' read is still super disingenuous after himalayas where bm just didn't play and was town annoyance at being marginalised and wanting to be heard, which is also just a trait of being stubborn and having an ego which is why combined with her actual content and posts might be mafia but also might be not BM posted shit all in himalayas and was town, BM has posted shit all in this game and has a claim and could be town. I'm not going to say someone is burnt out mafia when their meta is to sometimes not play as town compared to Trfel whose meta is post logical thoughts a lot of the time. | ||
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On July 08 2015 00:20 Half the Sky wrote: Read the top of page 98. I backed off once he stated it was correct. That was some confusion on my end. Although Palmar is saying otherwise, still I had him on my list of people to review. Also HF, re the point on milo being meh, I'm still waiting for the latest round of his answers to my questions whcih he'd say he'd provide. That's exactly it. Your push is "meh" you don't need his answers. He's posted like a million things after that and I just asked for people's opinions on milo's responses to Trfel's case (which happened a long time ago) and you have no response to that either. Like your scum read is making a case and your other scum read is responding to it and you just make a list with both of us in it and don't even look at what the people are saying. It's so... meh and you aren't a meh player that doesn't follow up on her reads properly. There's no instinctive drive to solve out that player. You are saying things just to say things. | ||
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On July 08 2015 00:24 marvellosity wrote: does anyone think ritoky is town outside his claim? or at least, i should rephrase, are there posts that might make you think he could be? I dunno his posts around what I was saying about trfel weren't awful but other than that it's pretty scummy (I keep coming back to the post where he lists 3 people that weren't really scummy at all and says 1 of them could be and going ... meh) but his claim after LS' claim last game also gives me wtf vibes but i don't really want to lynch him either kind of thing basically i'm a pussy and don't want to lynch a potential cop  | ||
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On July 08 2015 00:31 marvellosity wrote: i thought he was saying there that Trfel's narrative on LS wasn't convincing i said trfel's case was wrong and looked like he was trying to build a mafia narrative and milo responded, hts has taken it way out of context | ||
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