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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 28 2015 02:43 GMT
#1817
he could be scum claiming 3p?

okay something is seriously wrong with this role when he wins with both town and mafia? that means he has no incentive to do anything but claim and let the game play out on its own?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 28 2015 02:44 GMT
#1818
like if i were kita i'd be like

"I'm kita. Bye."

town wouldn't lynch me because they win by lynching scum

scum wouldn't kill me because they win by killing townies

why would anybody bother with me?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 28 2015 02:46 GMT
#1822
On May 28 2015 11:45 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2015 11:43 prplhz wrote:
he could be scum claiming 3p?

okay something is seriously wrong with this role when he wins with both town and mafia? that means he has no incentive to do anything but claim and let the game play out on its own?


3p doesn't have much incentive to claim anything, because then he gets shot by mafia. granted, claiming or softing mason with me probably gets me shot by mafia first lol >< but then i don't flip mason so he gets lynched. it's retarded any way you look at it if your wincon is to survive till endgame

why would mafia shoot 3p
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 28 2015 02:46 GMT
#1823
it says nothing in the OP about 3p having to be dead for mafia to win
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 28 2015 02:48 GMT
#1826
3p is essentially a non-participant. lol. that's why i'm saying something is wrong with that role as described in the OP. the only thing it could be there for is for scum to claim, but they'd have to claim it straight away because that's optimal play for an actual 3p (whose only win condition is that he needs to be alive when the game ends).
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 28 2015 02:49 GMT
#1830
On May 22 2015 08:31 Holyflare wrote:
Oh yeh and while I'm still totally afk if there is a 3p and he doesn't claim day 1 then he is entering a legally binding contract to never claim 3p this entire game or be lynched

http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 28 2015 02:52 GMT
#1833
either OP is wrong or 3p is a non-participant who should claim d1 and then post only not to get modkilled. that's the only way i can see it. the only other use of the potential of the role in the game is that mafia can claim it if they feel like it.

i agree it makes no fucking sense for VA to do this shit as scum but it makes even less sense as actual 3p and no sense as town.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 28 2015 02:56 GMT
#1836
can everybody please agree that 3p as described in the OP wins with both town and scum and additionally, neither town nor scum needs him to be dead in order for them to win.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 28 2015 02:57 GMT
#1838
a scum vig would have shot n1.

why?

because it's a free kill and they don't some crazy town vigilante to shoot the scum vig out of nowhere before he gets his shot off.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 28 2015 03:05 GMT
#1847
On May 28 2015 12:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
or, to simplify even further

Would the following situation result in endgame?:
3scum, 3 town, 1 survivor

survivor has no incentive to lynch scum in that scenario so i'd say yes.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 28 2015 03:06 GMT
#1848
this game is quite a mess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 28 2015 03:08 GMT
#1852
VA

explain why you didn't claim 1st thing d1.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 28 2015 03:10 GMT
#1857
On May 28 2015 12:09 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2015 12:07 rsoultin wrote:
-_-

bleh, may just be better to lynch VA...if nothing else we can be pretty sure he's not town, right?


Yeah, of course the best play here is to give mafia a full 36 hour cycle to discuss their plan in mafia QT while we wait for confirmation on whether we're fucked or not.

So what, the setup is just 3v9 with a spectator?

Wow, now I see why people hate 3p so much.

usually scum needs 3p dead to win?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 28 2015 03:20 GMT
#1866
how exactly do we win if VA is scum

if there is only 1 scum in this game i'd be very surprised
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 28 2015 03:22 GMT
#1867
VA/27/oats or bust
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 28 2015 03:34 GMT
#1874
On May 28 2015 12:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
we just lynch va today so we have a nice lylo setup tmr.

On May 28 2015 12:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
or you know, he flips scum and we win the game.


these two posts in succession sounds like in the first post oats knows we're mislynching
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 28 2015 03:38 GMT
#1877
if we don't have masons and we don't have vet we have 1jk and 1tracker. ostensibly appears to be weak but it isn't all that weak and maybe scum just have a roleblocker which would be fair enough.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 28 2015 03:38 GMT
#1878
On May 28 2015 12:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2015 12:34 prplhz wrote:
On May 28 2015 12:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
we just lynch va today so we have a nice lylo setup tmr.

On May 28 2015 12:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
or you know, he flips scum and we win the game.


these two posts in succession sounds like in the first post oats knows we're mislynching

by mislynch you mean town?

or not scum. Because generally, mis means bad.
Lynching a survivor isnt bad.

yes lynching a survivor is bad.

the only reason we should lynch VA today is if we believe he is scum. if we think he is 3p then we leave him alone.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 28 2015 03:41 GMT
#1881
On May 28 2015 12:39 rsoultin wrote:
Guarda Costas (Mafia Vigilante)
You protect your cronies, yet you are one of the deadliest assassins around. As the mafia vigilante you have one round that you can use on any person in a given night. If roleblocked, your bullet will not be refunded.

heh >< it appears that just because there were two deaths n1 doesn't mean there can't be a mafia vig, either, so there's that

ye, did you think scum vig was blocked by fuba n1 AND n2?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 28 2015 03:44 GMT
#1884
no, i read it. i read it before you posted it.

you just agreed with me that scum vig shot n1. by that i meant "he shot and lost his bullet" while you apparently meant "he shot and didn't lose his bullet and then didn't shoot/was blocked n2".
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