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Definitely going to try and apply some stuff from the Assassin analysis to this game such as requesting people don't claim unecessarily. | ||
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On May 18 2015 05:04 GlowingBear wrote: ##Vote: Damdred Mafia-ish opening. Does anyone know how to turn back to mobile mode? I turned website mode again, and AGAIN I can't find the reverse button. Did you plan on putting this in the voting thread? | ||
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On May 18 2015 05:35 The Shining wrote: GB explained why he thought Damdreds entrance was scummy. By doing so, I'm pretty sure it wasn't a joke. Stutters, Shockeyy, Obi. Names in filter for reminder. Three entrances with afk excuses/lack of playing right now. Please fix this before eod so I don't have to plynch kthx You've played with me three(?) times recently, twice as town and once as scum. In all of those games, my weekend activity was atrocious. You should also remember "I don't do d1" and thus realize that a d1 lynch on me is retarded. I will say I plan on trying more d1 as Assassination inspired me but I don't like your post. Don't be scum plz and don't vig me again. | ||
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On May 18 2015 07:21 Vivax wrote: Oh this started already. Should I read my role PM? Can we expect Assassin Vivax or town Vivax? | ||
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On May 18 2015 07:21 Damdred wrote: I think its a nonsensical stance for Mafia!Palmar to take at this stage of the game that Damdred is scum. Especially given how Palmar thinks (highly) about how I play the game and how I eventually gain momentum as the game goes along and if i'm town I can easily get off the mislynch as long as I try anyway. I don't see mafia Palmar going after me early in the game. Plus hes done this before to me as town I think Yeah, that seems like it'd be a very bold move after last game given the players. | ||
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Anyway, Palmar trolls a lot. I don't mind that intro honestly. If he doesn't actually start contributing we'll deal with it. I would be down to policy lynch him today if he never shows up, but right now I'm more interested in Shining. Over the two hours he was here, he avoided any actual topics to "note" people using d1 excuses and is really defensive for such minor stuff. He's not concerned with finding scum, just how he looks. ##vote: Shining I'm still waffling over GBs list post. There are glaring inconsistencies I'm surprised no one has noticed, but it just feels town. I need to think on that. His other posting especially is what keeps me from scumming him. | ||
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On May 19 2015 01:08 Damdred wrote: The dude was in the thread when shit all but talking about null openers was going on? And hasn't been here to talk more serious stuff. Seriously stop being bad and misrepresenting And if he comes back and contributes I'll readress it, but I'm not letting that slide. In no way should that opening be anything more than null and even that is being generous imo. | ||
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Shining's posts just feel like he's trying to hide behind that excuse for d1. Even in Ippo where he barely posted d1 he didn't emphasize it like this. In NSMIX he mentions it, but jumps right into actual content (although misguided). | ||
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Although he's wrong of accusing me of misrepresenting Shining, my initial post didn't elaborate fully and that was a good question to ask. I'm starting to sour on Palmar, but when he said that, it was more understandable. | ||
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On May 19 2015 04:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Shining's in my townlist too tbh. You have reads? | ||
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Palmar plz | ||
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On May 19 2015 07:22 Damdred wrote: Also why is it only Lurker Palmar and Lurker Obi and not Lurker Qwerty as well? I know that there isn't any associative tells to go on, but i'm like really really sure that GB Palmar and Obi aren't the scum team in this situation. I highly doubt at like 99% that Obi and Palmar could be scum together honestly, but we are getting into turbulent waters with this post. He hasn't posted at all. He'll either get MK'd or replaced and we can deal with it then. No sense in stifling discussion and denying ourselves info to lynch someone who we don't even know if they've seen the thread. | ||
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I can get down with Vivax actually, but enlighten me as to why you suspect Damdred. I haven't checked him out in a while, but I had him as pretty solid town. | ||
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On May 20 2015 04:47 sciberbia wrote: It's a stupid and cowardly thing to do. Any moron could make 2 posts per cycle in every game they ever play and be completely unreadable. Great mafia play. Wow such skill. But you aren't trying to help your town teams win. I'm just really hoping he flips scum. If he doesn't, I'm policy lynching him d1 on every game forever after this. | ||
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On May 20 2015 08:06 Damdred wrote: Point one: stutters is Scum now, for really good reasons I'll expound on later Nope. Just hard to motivate myself when half the game is afk. I'd love to hear this though. | ||
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On May 20 2015 08:30 Damdred wrote: The game really isn't that inactive though, some people do need to step up but it is what it is. Also actively lurking eh stutters I do that every game bud. | ||
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The odds of 4 blues is incredibly low for 13 player games. This is why I don't mind lynching into a claimed "blue" That's not enough to lynch him for though alone. Go back to his filter and reread it. D1. Wants to lynch Zealos (early over weak stuff). The seriousness of his town read on Palmar before he really said anything. He calls Obi scum when he's barely posting but doesn't push him. Justifies his play so far as calling baddies bad. Then without much having changed its Ze>Shock>Obi. Then he's back to list posting and discussions without actually looking for scum, but switches to Vivax. His reads have no sense of consistency to them and no authority. He never actually pushes them, just throws them out and that's it. What really made me notice this is On May 20 2015 07:08 Damdred wrote: I think Obi is a sub optimal lynch on day one and how he acts around the lynch and during the night is more telling in context then when he's being a bastard under pressure generally. And I disagree I thought Palmar case was good as did a few other people, it's easy to say x has a town lean but it's different when that lean does absolutely nothing for 36 hours which is alignment indicative of that person and his actions since calling me scum. First the quote: this shows (along with the rest of the above stuff) his completely non-committal attitude towards actually lynching anyone. Then the case on myself and Qwerty. 1. The case on myself is terrible. It's based entirely on my meta, through LS's analysis of it. What he neglected to mention was how I am a much less active poster as town prone to dropping posts like my thought on Shining. He also ignores my penchant for bussing as scum. It's blatant cherry picking. He clearly made no effort to actually read any previous games as well as I am significantly less likely to follow up on promises as town since I do not feel guilty knowing I'll be able to establish myself when I actually play. Just a minor add-on to him not actually caring about anyone getting lynched. I do actually agree with him on Qwerty from his case, however since then that's another flag. Once Qwerty slips his identity, he calls him scum yet would rather lynch Zealos (again). Additionally, given Damdreds assassination play and his reason for town Palmar early, I would expect him to at least question or pressure me die claiming blue considering the circumstances. Off of my play to the point I claimed, I would not survive to endgame as scum so fake claiming would be reasonable, especially in a closed setup. I would expect him to make some note of that. | ||
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I'll read up on the shockey lynch real quick, but I really believe Damdred > Qwerty > everyone else at the moment. | ||
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On May 23 2015 02:29 Damdred wrote: None of that makes me scum honestly, I do stuff all the time that doesn't make sense to people. I always sheep palmar when I don't have a lot of confidence check out noir 3 XD anyway yea You don't have a lot of confidence, but you call everyone's reads/them bad if they don't align with your own. What I'm seeing this entire game is you don't have a lot of consistency with your thought process and are incredibly defensive and brush off any criticism because you don't have answers. ##vote Damdred | ||
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Although it is 90% associations he hasn't played in a long time. If you look at Ver/Incog's Assassination analysis (also old players) it's clear the meta of TL towns has changed. More importantly, although his associations are misguided, his thought process is clear and focused on trying to solve the game. That's incredibly hard to emulate as scum, especially when it's a weird style under constant scrutiny. Based off of that, I see this lynch going the way of Vivax. An easy mislynch for scum to pile on inconspicuously. Granted I was so focused on writing that Damdred case I might have missed a point against him, but that's how I'm seeing his filter. Going to go check that, but I can't see anything that would make him a better lynch. | ||
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##unvote ##vote Zealos | ||
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On May 23 2015 03:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Does it not bother you that Damdred, your prime scumread, is voting Zealos? Slightly, however I can easily see Damdred bussing him. Damdred's scum read on him has been very non-committal but clearly suspects him. If I had been around yesterday to push, I would not be in favor of lynching him over Damdred or Trefel, however this close to lynch time that's unattainable and individually I have him as scummier than Shock. | ||
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On May 23 2015 03:43 Onegu wrote: So has anyone ever see stutters this lazy? Like he did nothing day one. He defends his meta saying he is less active as town? Guess I have to check database  I could list ten more town tells that I haven't mentioned. I'm not getting lynched today so I'm not worried about defending myself. My point was LS accurately noted that in No Ippo yet Damdred doesn't address any of that when using meta to push me. Just the one point that hit his obviously false narrative. | ||
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On May 23 2015 03:45 Damdred wrote: LOL if you guys think this is how I bus you should be ashamed of yourselves especially gb You're also very disinterested and quite frankly I wouldn't expect your best scum game considering you can just coast. | ||
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On May 23 2015 04:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote: People keep saying Shockey shouldn't be lynched but there's not a single person who can explain why. I posted it right after my case on Damdred. | ||
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I'll be at Sunset Music Festival today and tomorrow so I won't be on a lot before late night if I'm not too exhausted to play. I'll try to get out more definitive stuff, but in case I die: Damdred - I still think he's scum. If you're town, please read my case and evaluate it on your own. If he doesn't die and continues paying like he is lynch him. This is not up to his level of town play. I didn't mention this in the case, but he keeps saying Assassination doesn't count because of the post restrictions, but if you look at the posting amounts, he's averaging a similar number yet nowhere near the analysis or effort towards solving the game. I'm trying to not use meta when there is enough to actually read someone, but food for thought. Unfortunately, I didn't get to type up what I wanted on the others before I have to go, but I've got Trfel as scum and the third is one of Shining or OWS. Maybe VCA and a reread would change my mind on Shockeyy but personally I want to lynch Damdred or Trfel. Trfel is probably the safer lynch, but Damdred as scum cracks the game open. Since it'll be mylo though, Trfel would be better I think. Sorry again I wasn't more of a help, it's been a hell of a week and I didn't see all this coming when I ined. | ||
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On May 24 2015 03:15 Damdred wrote: There is no reason outside speculation that I'm Scum. The case on me hinges on would town damdred sheep Palmar onto vivax. Besides that I don't think it's a fair assessment that I haven't tried to give reads or contribute. Sadly scib who only played one game with me can read me better than all of you. Its really sad. And I've said why qwerty is Scum so whatever You still haven't addressed any of my points. That's what worries me especially. | ||
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On May 24 2015 04:19 GlowingBear wrote: Playing HS right now. It seems I've built an okay-ish mage deck + Show Spoiler + are zoo Hunter/lock still super good? Anyway, I'm off to SMF. Can't promise how much I'll be around the next 2 days. If I die tonight, gg sorry. | ||
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On May 24 2015 04:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Mage is pretty rad. It was the only ranked deck I used until I built this Paladin deck. Btw, why is Stutters town? Last post, just waiting for my girlfriend to finish her make-up. I'm obv town. | ||
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On May 24 2015 04:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Idk, I really don't think Stutters is town. I think the Damdred tunnel might be affecting your read too much. Stutters had a hard scumread on Damdred for some time and it didn't seem to bother him at all that he and Damdred were trying to kill/save the same people. If you have any specific questions, I'll answer when I get around to it. Rain just hit and they put everytHing on hold, so unless it stops soon, I might have time to phone post. I can give you a generic answer, but it's full of wifom. | ||
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On May 24 2015 06:01 Damdred wrote: Well not sure what to make of that kill. Oh well, vet me if you want I am town. There's three Scum left I think we are in mylo there are two choices to sleep and get into lylo or lynch Scum today. I'm hoping we lynch Scum I'll spend a bit of time soon If they're trying to WIFOM us, they'll just shoot Onegu instead of actually reveaLing anything. | ||
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On May 24 2015 10:14 Damdred wrote: I would rather my partner claim either when he's about to be lynched if or claim after I'm shot. I don't feel like it's my place to out him. However what is your role stutterd Did you mason him or were you guys already paired? Is he confirmed town via roles? I'll tell mine in.good time, but I'm not about to announce it. I was RBd last night, can't remember if I announced it. | ||
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On May 24 2015 10:23 Damdred wrote: Normal paired up confirmed masons. I'm sorry this is mylo stutters I highly would rather lynch qwerty tbh today but claim this cycle please. Unless Onegu is scum, I can't see a mason pair as well. If you say who he is, I'll claim. | ||
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On May 25 2015 10:01 Damdred wrote: I'm honestly spent with this game. From GB tunnel to my ultimate town read being an idiot and calling me scum when I'm making a play so nobody looks at either of us and the game is poed down to obi, shockey and oats. I really don't care if I get lynched tbh scum can get this win I could care more. However just so people know trfel is wrong in most games have two power roles, most of the time its three with a possibility of four depending on the wrakness/strength of the roles involved. Just lynch me get this game over, the most active player got tunneled by confirmed town and now we are probably going to lynch me or who knows. Ok probably voting for qwerty or whatever and hope shockey is scum Idc Who is the mason partner? | ||
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I still have Shockey as town atm. Qwerty or Damdred need to be lynched imo. The more I think about it, the more sure I am Damdred is scum though. I wasn't in danger of getting lynched yet he wants me to out my role in mylo as the (presumably) last blue. If I was up for lynch, that'd be fine and it would be wise to claim to not lose like that. However, given the roles that could exist, claiming only hurts town on the chance we hit scum today (they know if they need to shoot me, can RB me indefinitely, etc.) and if we don't we've lost anyway. Considering the thought that went into his fake claim, I find it kind of hard to believe he didn't put that together if he's actually trying to solve the game. | ||
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On May 24 2015 07:09 Damdred wrote: Since this will be the last day if things go badly, claim your role stutters and any information you can have | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24307630 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24307650 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24307714 | ||
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And if you guys are both scum, that vote is irrelevant because he'll just last second ninja if it will win the game and it won't matter. I'm not concerned about either of your votes, just that town consolidates. | ||
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We need to be lynching Damdred or Trfel. I'm more on Damdred scum, but either one is a way better lynch than Shockeyy | ||
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I'm not getting lynched and it doesn't confirm anyone else. Try reading sometime. | ||
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On May 26 2015 04:33 Damdred wrote: Its pretty obvious stutters role he will claim though I'm pretty sure I've even softed it a couple times lol. | ||
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