EPTI'm not scumming Cel here but the spear head now on Prpl(wouldn't a newbie town be a little hesitant to push so Damn hard after that Scott ml?) Is enough to make me not strong town read him anymore. Definitely not enough to call someone confirmed town.
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
I'm not scumming Cel here but the spear head now on Prpl(wouldn't a newbie town be a little hesitant to push so Damn hard after that Scott ml?) Is enough to make me not strong town read him anymore. Definitely not enough to call someone confirmed town. | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
On May 07 2015 04:41 Half the Sky wrote: sicklucker, there are three scum in this game. Let's say Superbia has to replace out. Who will you lynch today? stutters or that guy who just made the worst post of all time yosu | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On May 07 2015 06:47 The Shining wrote: Would love to see you come back when not on mobile and actually explain this. Because I'm in your filter right now and this isn't what I'm seeing. Do tell. ticktock and prp, 1 mafia probably voting outside of the main wagon. as of now superbia is null with town indicators. i am confirmed town. this leaves ticktock and prp. prp is role or mafia. ticktock wasted his vote. y0su's reason for greening me is bad. his reads are too conformy, and i don't buy his remorse and what i said would have changed his vote line all that much. you fighting with him and bit and pushing on eachother doesn't feel like 2 town fighting. 1 of you is mafia. for you being mafia, would take more time and capabilities to explain. | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
On May 07 2015 04:55 -Celestial- wrote: @HtS: Not a fan of the responses. I can understand some of his arguments but it seems to me he's playing this way too close to his chest for me to be comfortable with. If I had to pick one thing in particular out I really don't like its the fight back against the whole killing FF thing. He's insisting that FF was never blue. But we can't prove that's what he actually thought or that's what ANYONE thought. I don't recall anyone going "oh that FF is definitely not blue" because that'd be a godawful town play anyway. The argument then switches to "if I thought FF was blue I'd do X, Y, Z" which is entirely not alignment indicative because he can say literally anything at all he wants here and nobody can prove otherwise. Then he's continuing to hammer away at the fact that he claims he got roleblocked and mafia has a role read on him; which is another thing nobody can actually verify. There does seem to be a hint of frustration that he claims he feels when people scum him when he's town; but that could easily be him feeling pressured as red either. I don't like that he's making a big deal about the fact that people should dismiss him as a scum candidate on the basis of things he's claiming that nobody else can prove. I acualy said ff is blue ! | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
Meh, ritoky ignored or didn't see the question HtS put up, either. I'm taking my town read back. | ||
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The Shining
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I agree with the off wagon mafia point. Thing is, and I hate to use this, but I've seen ppl defend TTs vote, as well as TT defending it, too. Newbie, pressured, etc. Prp doesn't have that excuse. Mmmm welp yosus my next filter. I didn't like what Super pointed out about him seeming to make excuses for me. It's a stretch but scum yosu would know my alignment and would be weary of being blamed for pushing my ml the hardest without interacting with me or finding solid to scum me on. He doesn't have that on me so he makes an excuse. | ||
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ritoky
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
I didn't give you the full TR for TRing me, but I liked that you were encouraging my train of thought but strongly calling me wrong (agreeing with HtS who I TR'd for similar reasons). I included your quote cause I thought it was a pretty good indicator of a logical read in favor of T not going through with a ML. | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
On May 07 2015 07:12 ritoky wrote: @hts: don't understand the relevancy of your question. there's a lot of game, if your primary reason is tone at this point, read is pretty meh. The way I read it, you're scumming her for her tone shift(tone reasoning), then criticizing the Superbia because of tone. So when is it acceptable and when isn't it? You got at me for inconsistencies in my reads(towning A for doing xyz but not B, who also did xyz). What I see here is you scumming for xyz, then criticizing the Superbia train for xyz. | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On May 07 2015 07:14 The Shining wrote: Disregard my last post. I thought you posted and left. Lets talk, if you still have time. I agree with the off wagon mafia point. Thing is, and I hate to use this, but I've seen ppl defend TTs vote, as well as TT defending it, too. Newbie, pressured, etc. Prp doesn't have that excuse. Mmmm welp yosus my next filter. I didn't like what Super pointed out about him seeming to make excuses for me. It's a stretch but scum yosu would know my alignment and would be weary of being blamed for pushing my ml the hardest without interacting with me or finding solid to scum me on. He doesn't have that on me so he makes an excuse. in a waiting room @ the doctor, have as much time as they are behind in schedule. tt maybe confused newbie; but also could just be mafia not wanting their name attached to a town death. dunno i need to revisit filter after prp claims or doesn't. y0su has been ignored by most players all game. that bugs me. | ||
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
On May 07 2015 06:58 The Shining wrote: wouldn't a newbie town be a little hesitant to push so Damn hard after that Scott ml? Alternatively if I was showing I was scared and unwilling to push people then people would think that I'd drove the mislynch train and then gone quiet, hoping not to be noticed in the fallout. Both are potentially very good reasons to scum me in fairness. | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On May 07 2015 07:18 The Shining wrote: The way I read it, you're scumming her for her tone shift(tone reasoning), then criticizing the Superbia because of tone. So when is it acceptable and when isn't it? You got at me for inconsistencies in my reads(towning A for doing xyz but not B, who also did xyz). What I see here is you scumming for xyz, then criticizing the Superbia train for xyz. i had a small scum read on her for it that i was intentionally blowing out of proportion to try and get a 2nd wagon for vote info. it mildly worked. in reality it was a small scum read. and yes i think by day 2 if you start your superbia is mafia reads with "he sounds off" and people really key in on that. it is a meh read that is probably bad. | ||
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
My thoughts are super scrambled and I'm not quoting anything because I'm on mobile and can't get on my tablet but I'm here and will be here the rest of the day. making an excuse for you? I read that as you not being very available to answer questions either. | ||
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
Oh? Missed that in your filter. Fair enough. Think that's a bit of a silly play though because you're drawing attention to people you think are blue and might get them killed. That being said...would THAT have been enough to give the mafia a target in itself? "Eh, we don't have anyone better so we might as well go with the confirmed townie who someone said might be blue." | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
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ritoky
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
On May 07 2015 07:14 ritoky wrote: i guess to try and summarize in a small amount of text why shining could be mafia instead of y0su. it has to do with always being behind in the thread, summary information, only really doing shit when pinged out, and the like. This was always going to happen, since D1 fell on my weekend. But this is misinformation now. I'm here. I'm not behind in the thread. I've referenced recent interactions. I'm interacting. I'm not just summarizing, I've pulled examples from your filter. And yes, I was pinged out by everyone. Last night, yesterday afternoon, etc. So anything I do after that is doing it after being pinged out, regardless of whether I was going to or not. How is that alignment indicative? | ||
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