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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 06 2015 22:25 GMT
#1361
btw i found out damdred's perfect read on me just now. i feel like now i will be able to fix it....it was so simple it pisses me off. you just have to count the question marks in my filter lol. am mad.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 06 2015 22:27 GMT
#1362
On May 07 2015 07:25 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 07:14 ritoky wrote:
i guess to try and summarize in a small amount of text why shining could be mafia instead of y0su. it has to do with always being behind in the thread, summary information, only really doing shit when pinged out, and the like.


This was always going to happen, since D1 fell on my weekend. But this is misinformation now.

I'm here. I'm not behind in the thread. I've referenced recent interactions. I'm interacting. I'm not just summarizing, I've pulled examples from your filter. And yes, I was pinged out by everyone. Last night, yesterday afternoon, etc. So anything I do after that is doing it after being pinged out, regardless of whether I was going to or not. How is that alignment indicative?


because as scum the natural tendency of players is to look for their name in the thread and be more passive when they aren't being talked about. very few scum are capable of playing from the front and succeeding. people who don't do shit until pinged out tend to be scum indicative.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 06 2015 22:28 GMT
#1363
hey guys i'm reading up now anything i should pay attention to?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 06 2015 22:29 GMT
#1364
On May 07 2015 07:28 prplhz wrote:
hey guys i'm reading up now anything i should pay attention to?


you role or mafia?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 06 2015 22:32 GMT
#1365
On May 07 2015 03:00 ritoky wrote:
prp is a role or mafia, take that 1 to the bank. had that read since like his 3rd or 4th post. waiting on his claim.

what the fuck is this even
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 06 2015 22:32 GMT
#1366
On May 07 2015 07:29 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 07:28 prplhz wrote:
hey guys i'm reading up now anything i should pay attention to?


you role or mafia?


If he tries to say VT at this point then I'm honestly going to facepalm so hard.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 06 2015 22:32 GMT
#1367
On May 07 2015 07:19 -Celestial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 06:58 The Shining wrote:
wouldn't a newbie town be a little hesitant to push so Damn hard after that Scott ml?


Alternatively if I was showing I was scared and unwilling to push people then people would think that I'd drove the mislynch train and then gone quiet, hoping not to be noticed in the fallout.

Both are potentially very good reasons to scum me in fairness.


Yeah. My point is, it happened and it's enough for me to scum you or at least not town you. And no one has questioned it. You've even got a conf town read for it. I just want to know why.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 06 2015 22:38 GMT
#1368
I don't really follow what my reads on you, tt, prp and super have to do with the overall question, I assume you're talking about d1 + Show Spoiler +

FINAL VOTE COUNT:


scott31337 (8) : -Celestial-, sicklucker, disformation, Half the Sky, y0su, FecalFeast, The Shining, Stutters695
Half the Sky (3) : Superbia (X), ritoky, prplhz, Superbia
disformation (1) : scott31337
prplhz (1) : Tictock
-Celestial- (0) : Superbia (X)
sicklucker (0) : The Shining (X), scott31337 (X), Superbia (X)

I don't see any reason that scum wouldn't want to disassociate from a ML. In terms of where they'd go, I think it would be easier to jump on another wagon than start their own.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 06 2015 22:39 GMT
#1369
On May 07 2015 07:21 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 07:18 The Shining wrote:
On May 07 2015 07:12 ritoky wrote:
@hts: don't understand the relevancy of your question. there's a lot of game, if your primary reason is tone at this point, read is pretty meh.

The way I read it, you're scumming her for her tone shift(tone reasoning), then criticizing the Superbia because of tone.

So when is it acceptable and when isn't it? You got at me for inconsistencies in my reads(towning A for doing xyz but not B, who also did xyz). What I see here is you scumming for xyz, then criticizing the Superbia train for xyz.


i had a small scum read on her for it that i was intentionally blowing out of proportion to try and get a 2nd wagon for vote info. it mildly worked. in reality it was a small scum read. and yes i think by day 2 if you start your superbia is mafia reads with "he sounds off" and people really key in on that. it is a meh read that is probably bad.


So it's acceptable when you do it to make a read more serious than it is for info purposes but it's not acceptable when someone is using it, amongst other things, to make a case?
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 06 2015 22:41 GMT
#1370
On May 07 2015 07:32 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 07:19 -Celestial- wrote:
On May 07 2015 06:58 The Shining wrote:
wouldn't a newbie town be a little hesitant to push so Damn hard after that Scott ml?


Alternatively if I was showing I was scared and unwilling to push people then people would think that I'd drove the mislynch train and then gone quiet, hoping not to be noticed in the fallout.

Both are potentially very good reasons to scum me in fairness.


Yeah. My point is, it happened and it's enough for me to scum you or at least not town you. And no one has questioned it. You've even got a conf town read for it. I just want to know why.


To read into it you'd have to look at my town style but I only have one game on here and it was as scum. You could ask me directly but all I'm going to say as EITHER alignment is "yeah, I'm town, do this all the time". Like I said, either way could be a good way to scum me and that's pretty much why I didn't even bother trying to avoid that potential criticism (although you seem to be the first to have brought it up) because nothing I say will make a bit of difference to what you think there.

Ultimately I have zero reason to be scared as long as I remember to keep putting out a big read post every day and night containing all my thoughts because as long as that's out I'm leaving my legacy behind for town to follow up on. Although I'd like to note that I didn't actually MEAN to "lead" the prplhz lynch here but the fact that Superbia kept blindly defending the guy for, in my view, no reason whatsoever was enough for me to dig through prpl's entire filter and pull it apart to wave it in front of Superbia.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 06 2015 22:42 GMT
#1371
On May 07 2015 07:39 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 07:21 ritoky wrote:
On May 07 2015 07:18 The Shining wrote:
On May 07 2015 07:12 ritoky wrote:
@hts: don't understand the relevancy of your question. there's a lot of game, if your primary reason is tone at this point, read is pretty meh.

The way I read it, you're scumming her for her tone shift(tone reasoning), then criticizing the Superbia because of tone.

So when is it acceptable and when isn't it? You got at me for inconsistencies in my reads(towning A for doing xyz but not B, who also did xyz). What I see here is you scumming for xyz, then criticizing the Superbia train for xyz.


i had a small scum read on her for it that i was intentionally blowing out of proportion to try and get a 2nd wagon for vote info. it mildly worked. in reality it was a small scum read. and yes i think by day 2 if you start your superbia is mafia reads with "he sounds off" and people really key in on that. it is a meh read that is probably bad.


So it's acceptable when you do it to make a read more serious than it is for info purposes but it's not acceptable when someone is using it, amongst other things, to make a case?


it's acceptable as an accoutrement to a case, but not as a keystone. also day 1 and day 2 reads should be quite different.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 06 2015 22:45 GMT
#1372
On May 07 2015 07:38 y0su wrote:
I don't really follow what my reads on you, tt, prp and super have to do with the overall question, I assume you're talking about d1 + Show Spoiler +

FINAL VOTE COUNT:


scott31337 (8) : -Celestial-, sicklucker, disformation, Half the Sky, y0su, FecalFeast, The Shining, Stutters695
Half the Sky (3) : Superbia (X), ritoky, prplhz, Superbia
disformation (1) : scott31337
prplhz (1) : Tictock
-Celestial- (0) : Superbia (X)
sicklucker (0) : The Shining (X), scott31337 (X), Superbia (X)

I don't see any reason that scum wouldn't want to disassociate from a ML. In terms of where they'd go, I think it would be easier to jump on another wagon than start their own.


in a 9-3-1 vote, 2 mafia are very unlikely to be in the 3 is my point. like statistically improbable. i don't find your reads compelling enough for me to go against stats.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 06 2015 22:45 GMT
#1373
On May 07 2015 07:28 prplhz wrote:
hey guys i'm reading up now anything i should pay attention to?

probably your head. you're about to lose it.

what's your read on SL?
Strongest T and S?
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 06 2015 22:50 GMT
#1374
am gone until later. cross your fingers for no more preg complications.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 06 2015 22:50 GMT
#1375
I really don't like stats that are pulled out of your ass. Do you have some further explanation on why that would be?
I've also said that I'm not doing reads by association - I can't place 2 votes at a time anyway.

Could you explain what was the significance of pointing out my TR on you and TT in relation to the voting?
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 06 2015 22:55 GMT
#1376
On May 07 2015 05:47 y0su wrote:
It's a lot of excuses. Very scummy. His only "read" is a weak town on HtS in which he goes wifom to justify it being weak.
That said, RL comes up so I'm not going to jump on him cause he's not the only one afk (or lurking).


Y0su, it's still making excuses for me. The fact that you saw me make the mobile excuse myself and are using that for why you can call my read weak(really soft push, take a stance) but accept my RL excuse is bad.

If you think I'm having trouble keeping up or because of real life, wouldn't that explain my "weak" read? You also haven't commented on the fact that you've been lying/misrepresenting me.

I lold at your response to Super asking you what you think of my reads. "Trick question?" So you've alluded, more than once, that I have no reads this game. I pointed out my D1 reads. Why was there no reaction or conclusion after that?
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 06 2015 23:00 GMT
#1377
On May 07 2015 07:32 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 03:00 ritoky wrote:
prp is a role or mafia, take that 1 to the bank. had that read since like his 3rd or 4th post. waiting on his claim.

what the fuck is this even


I hate to say it, but I'm actually with prpl on this. You accuse me of trying to revise my d1 while blatantly slinging this shit? You had him as your 3rd/4th towniest person at like his 3rd or 4th post and now you're demanding he claim, which at best trades for a PR when we could just lynch him? I don't like that.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 06 2015 23:00 GMT
#1378
Ebwop that was @Ritoky, didn't expect it to hide his quote.
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 06 2015 23:13 GMT
#1379
I said your wifom was your excuse for a weak read.

I said I wasn't pressuring you because your RL excuses.

I had posted earlier I was waiting for your d2 reads (still am) that's what I thought Super was referring to and why I asked him to show them.

Your early reads seems fine and I'm just not a fan of the tone in some.
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 06 2015 23:21 GMT
#1380
Since you're more or less around TS, why is HtS wrong to vote for you?
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