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y0su
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Stutters695
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On May 07 2015 07:50 ritoky wrote: am gone until later. cross your fingers for no more preg complications. Just saw this, hope everything goes ok. | ||
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y0su
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Stutters695
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
HtS is a bad vote in my opinion because she can be caught as scum. The scum HtS I played with did end up almost universally towned but she didn't maintain her level of play throughout the game. You could say that game started strong and slightly ebbed for her but she got lost in everything else, and allowed it to happen. Town HtS is the opposite. Starts off okay, or in this case weak, then progressively gets better, while actively trying to solve the game. Until she gets NKd. Until I see a dropoff in analysis, questioning, and active interactions, she is a bad vote. A dropoff will be a clear scumtell. So will maintaining this level of play without being NKd. And now I say goodbye to my shyt tier HtS metaread XD | ||
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y0su
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The Shining
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You purposely let me see that, start my post on HtS, wait a few minutes THEN say you mean Dis. Yeah I'm not happy lol Well I stand by my last post, though it has no relevance now lol. As for Dis being wrong to vote, I never said that? Where are you getting this from? Afaik my last post regarding Dis had him in a list saying 2 of 4 on said list were scum. And me forgetting him until the last spot on list meant he was my prime suspect, inferring I'm suspicious because he's forgettable. SN: good luck with everything, ritoky | ||
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
 Still curious what you find weak about HtS's play? to clarify the other question: dis is voting for you. What do you think of his reasoning? | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
On May 07 2015 08:42 y0su wrote: Can you point out what about her so far has been weak? Can you start making some reaction or conclusion or read posts? All these one liner questions seeming to lead nowhere are a red flag. Interesting that you'd ask me about that post, when it wasn't who you even wanted to ask about, either. When I said weak, I was referring to the inactivity first half of d1. My progression on her has been pretty clear. Don't lynch for pregame excuse-> still inactive, could plynch-> she's playing like town but past games keep me from strong town read. Now here I am. | ||
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y0su
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No, I wasn't interested in hts - and i'm not. I'm interested in why you make the read because I don't have a lot from you to go by. + Show Spoiler + It also helps my understanding of the game Would I be correct then in assuming that as a "pressure vote" on you, you approve of the move? | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
On May 07 2015 08:50 y0su wrote: the late change was not intentional Still curious what you find weak about HtS's play? to clarify the other question: dis is voting for you. What do you think of his reasoning? Figured it wasn't. Answered your question. Off to dinner. Man, I really dont know on Dis. His filter is in the very near future. Afaik, he's pressure voting me, but the progression so far I find strange. Like he made a post quoting me in which he clearly liked me for town. Then, instead of defending his read, he let it go and sheeped thread sentiment of "could be lurker, deliver on your d2 promises, etc." Making the early vote on me could be pressure, or could be getting on my ML wagon early. Can't really say for certain until I revisit his filter. Also, for all of you saying "shining needs to do more", it's about time to start interacting with me and making conclusions. I'm not letting that wishy washy lynchbait soft push shyt fly anymore. | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
On May 07 2015 08:59 y0su wrote: you're not trying to scare me off are you? :D No, I wasn't interested in hts - and i'm not. I'm interested in why you make the read because I don't have a lot from you to go by. + Show Spoiler + It also helps my understanding of the game Would I be correct then in assuming that as a "pressure vote" on you, you approve of the move? Not at all but it's a two way street. You're getting a lot out of this from me, from reads to thought processes, while I'm getting questions and no idea what your thoughts or conclusions are to the answers. You can see the scum motivation there. Ok. Fair point. Lets move on from that, then, unless you have anything else to ask irt HtS? Yes. If it's just pressure. Objectively, I'd probably vote the hell out of myself this game, too. I can't fault for him for it. But I won't town or scum him for it. My read would come from the filter dive, not his pressure on me. His follow up, or lack of one, is what I'm really looking for. | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
And I approve of pressure votes on a case by case basis. I approve of his, it's pressure to get me to make good on my promises. But where does he take it from here? See, a pressure vote for my obvious inactivity I can accept. Being scummed for an entrance post, a slip I never made, and my defensiveness over being scummed over a slip I never made like D1 pisses me off. | ||
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The Shining
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
I asked about dis because he was directly putting pressure on you with his vote (it was probably a bit of a softball question) but you answered about HtS. I'm not really a fan of meta reads (as a rookie) but I like the followup. Enjoy dinner. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
Will be around the next few hours. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On May 07 2015 03:23 ritoky wrote: dood...i fucked this up so bad in my spreadsheet. i swapped ticktock and disform. god damnit, my spreadsheet skills are a d+ this game, that's what i get when i take a month off. EBWOP: disform + prp/superb -> ticktock + prp/superb I agree with his initial logic, that there is likely 2 mafia in the main wagon and one outside, and that 2 out and 1 in is far less likely. But then his conclusion is that the mafia team is super, prp, and myself? That's totally outside what your whole post was saying since each of us were outside the scott wagon. Care to explain what I'm missing ritoky? I'm also really tired of seeing you sneak this statement into your posts, On May 07 2015 07:04 ritoky wrote: ticktock and prp, 1 mafia probably voting outside of the main wagon. as of now superbia is null with town indicators. i am confirmed town. this leaves ticktock and prp. prp is role or mafia. ticktock wasted his vote. y0su's reason for greening me is bad. his reads are too conformy, and i don't buy his remorse and what i said would have changed his vote line all that much. you fighting with him and bit and pushing on eachother doesn't feel like 2 town fighting. 1 of you is mafia. for you being mafia, would take more time and capabilities to explain. You sir are confirmed nothing, and each time I see you try to make that statement you smell more and more of scum. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
Still I hate that SL is just focusing on this sole argument and claims to be unwavering in it now. Hearing some vetern's say that this is how he has played as town before makes me facepalm. It's not bad to make use of mechanical plays to aid your cause but they should never be your sole factor when voting as it's a pure numbers game. I like y0su's quote regarding this "figures don't lie, but liers do the figuring" it's pretty apt especially in this situation. At best his whole argument here is NAI but the fact that SL is willing to spend the first half of D2 suggesting this while making no effort to make other reads or participate, especially after his already poor D1, leaves him dripping red in my book. | ||
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Tictock
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