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y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 06 2015 20:39 GMT
#1301
TS doesn't have any reads this game. I've posted that he's leaning scum but I'm still waiting for him to show up d2.
since my
The Shining giving him red on tone. Very willing to reconsider if/when we get d2 stuff he's promised.
was a while ago I guess I'll should update that he's slipped into prpl territory.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
May 06 2015 20:40 GMT
#1302
He just posted. What do you make of it y0su?
Minimal effort.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 06 2015 20:40 GMT
#1303
On May 07 2015 05:38 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 05:31 Half the Sky wrote:
On May 07 2015 05:29 Superbia wrote:
On May 07 2015 05:28 Half the Sky wrote:
On May 07 2015 05:26 Superbia wrote:
On May 07 2015 05:25 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 07 2015 05:13 Superbia wrote:
K nvm, prp's filter is way different than his VT filter (way more active as VT, more jokey, more one-liners). This wagon is okay-ish. Pressure definitely needed.

You're helpless. 10 minutes is also not enough time to analyze meta. Did you even look at a scum game?


No, I did not. I looked at 2 games (both VT) and decided that there was a big enough disparity between the games to justify not defending him today.


Um Superbia....we were both in Titanic. You were vet, I was miller, prplhz was scum JOAT (more or less).

That should be a decent basis for comparison, you think this game is closer to that one?


Wait we were? Let me check.


You don't remember that game? That was Titanic 7, I Have a Cunning Plan.

The Blackadder game where Sentinel had the two JKs. You and I both made it to late game. prplhz was the final scummer. You HAVE to remember.

ritoky was third party SK.

prplhz DID JACK ALL that game. If any game is good to meta, THAT'S THE ONE.


Yeah his filter here looks similar to that one. I may actually have a good read on him if he actually flips scum here.

I kind of forgot he was in that game. If I recall correctly slam red-checked him d4 or something? After I led the wagon on palmar.


Slam played DT extremely well. He red-checked Rasputin and prplhz and then he thought I might be SK, so he red-checked me (after all the scum were dead) to confirm I wasn't third party. And very good breadcrumbs on top of that.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
May 06 2015 20:41 GMT
#1304
On May 07 2015 05:40 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 05:38 Superbia wrote:
On May 07 2015 05:31 Half the Sky wrote:
On May 07 2015 05:29 Superbia wrote:
On May 07 2015 05:28 Half the Sky wrote:
On May 07 2015 05:26 Superbia wrote:
On May 07 2015 05:25 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 07 2015 05:13 Superbia wrote:
K nvm, prp's filter is way different than his VT filter (way more active as VT, more jokey, more one-liners). This wagon is okay-ish. Pressure definitely needed.

You're helpless. 10 minutes is also not enough time to analyze meta. Did you even look at a scum game?


No, I did not. I looked at 2 games (both VT) and decided that there was a big enough disparity between the games to justify not defending him today.


Um Superbia....we were both in Titanic. You were vet, I was miller, prplhz was scum JOAT (more or less).

That should be a decent basis for comparison, you think this game is closer to that one?


Wait we were? Let me check.


You don't remember that game? That was Titanic 7, I Have a Cunning Plan.

The Blackadder game where Sentinel had the two JKs. You and I both made it to late game. prplhz was the final scummer. You HAVE to remember.

ritoky was third party SK.

prplhz DID JACK ALL that game. If any game is good to meta, THAT'S THE ONE.


Yeah his filter here looks similar to that one. I may actually have a good read on him if he actually flips scum here.

I kind of forgot he was in that game. If I recall correctly slam red-checked him d4 or something? After I led the wagon on palmar.


Slam played DT extremely well. He red-checked Rasputin and prplhz and then he thought I might be SK, so he red-checked me (after all the scum were dead) to confirm I wasn't third party. And very good breadcrumbs on top of that.


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The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 06 2015 20:44 GMT
#1305
Also I totes hated Super d1 but post-anger, what scum would ask me to ignore pressure and give reads and help town? Scum would let me get flustered, keep me angry, and try to bury me. That, and the interaction now between HtS and Super and the subsequent mass feeling of "I could lynch Super" is off.

His defense seems a bit emotional but it isn't irrational and it's pretty understandable. He's directly firing back and responding to pressure. I don't think I can lynch him today.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 06 2015 20:44 GMT
#1306
On May 07 2015 05:36 The Shining wrote:
Hell of a lot to read. Not used to a game that has multiple large post posters. Looking at you, Cel/HtS.


Yeh I prefer the case-based approach over conversational, but meh I can do either approach. You're lucky Trfel isn't in this game then.

Looking forward to the rest of your reads.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 06 2015 20:46 GMT
#1307
On May 07 2015 05:39 y0su wrote:
TS doesn't have any reads this game. I've posted that he's leaning scum but I'm still waiting for him to show up d2.
since my
Show nested quote +
The Shining giving him red on tone. Very willing to reconsider if/when we get d2 stuff he's promised.
was a while ago I guess I'll should update that he's slipped into prpl territory.


Shining is posting as you are saying this with his reads....if you're scumreading him, why aren't you interacting with him?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 06 2015 20:46 GMT
#1308
On May 07 2015 05:23 Half the Sky wrote:
You're also finding it hard to read Superbia I see. What do you also think of him with his responses to me?


Well. First impression... to quote the late FF "He is an angry face".
He seems angry and dismissive of most of your points, which I don't like. At all.

But the points he makes in the beginning in regard to his playstyle probably explain why I can't read this guy at all and am not very fond of him.

So his tone screams scum at me. But I guess it can be a really good playstyle for finding mafia. He is super scary.

At least he dropped defending prplhz now...

Currently thinking a bit in the lines of:
On May 07 2015 02:35 Superbia wrote:
Like do me a fucking favour, and assume that both camps are town (super/ritoky + celestial/hts) for today and see how that works out, okay?


As in: He is suspicious at hell. But I don't really want to lynch him right now. I still dislike The Shining and prplhz more and have other ppl coasting around at the boarders of null.
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 06 2015 20:47 GMT
#1309
It's a lot of excuses. Very scummy. His only "read" is a weak town on HtS in which he goes wifom to justify it being weak.
That said, RL comes up so I'm not going to jump on him cause he's not the only one afk (or lurking).
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
May 06 2015 20:48 GMT
#1310
On May 07 2015 05:47 y0su wrote:
It's a lot of excuses. Very scummy. His only "read" is a weak town on HtS in which he goes wifom to justify it being weak.
That said, RL comes up so I'm not going to jump on him cause he's not the only one afk (or lurking).


So it's scummy but it's not?
Minimal effort.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 06 2015 20:50 GMT
#1311
On May 07 2015 05:39 y0su wrote:
TS doesn't have any reads this game. I've posted that he's leaning scum but I'm still waiting for him to show up d2.
since my
Show nested quote +
The Shining giving him red on tone. Very willing to reconsider if/when we get d2 stuff he's promised.
was a while ago I guess I'll should update that he's slipped into prpl territory.


I just called Super scum d1 for lols right? And sl was bad town instead of non-existent player. But that isn't a read either. I didn't mention anything about HtS returning to the thread and engaging with people, either, or my read on FF, which was before he died.

I have no reads this game. You're not reading.

So prpl and I are in the same territory. You have no comment on prpls first d1 being a negative comment on my entrance? We scum together or one of us is?
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 06 2015 20:50 GMT
#1312
On May 07 2015 05:46 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 05:39 y0su wrote:
TS doesn't have any reads this game. I've posted that he's leaning scum but I'm still waiting for him to show up d2.
since my
The Shining giving him red on tone. Very willing to reconsider if/when we get d2 stuff he's promised.
was a while ago I guess I'll should update that he's slipped into prpl territory.


Shining is posting as you are saying this with his reads....if you're scumreading him, why aren't you interacting with him?

If he's legit afk busy (on a phone! - i loath touchscreen typing) I'm going to give some time to actually respond. IMO asking questions now will just give him more excuses to not provide filter reads. I don't see the benefit from that.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 06 2015 20:52 GMT
#1313
On May 07 2015 05:44 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 05:36 The Shining wrote:
Hell of a lot to read. Not used to a game that has multiple large post posters. Looking at you, Cel/HtS.


Yeh I prefer the case-based approach over conversational, but meh I can do either approach. You're lucky Trfel isn't in this game then.

Looking forward to the rest of your reads.


My cases are weak. I like conversational because upon filter diving, slips or lies said in passing and inconsistencies are good scumtells.

You, Trfel, HtS together? Now that I see posting styles? /out lol
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 06 2015 20:57 GMT
#1314
So, what's your read on SL now?
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 06 2015 20:58 GMT
#1315
Err...you, Trfel, Cel. Whatevs.

Ritoky still town btw. Me lynching prpl would be policy.

I need to really read yosu, TT, Stutters. Because by poe, I have Cel, HtS, Ritoky, Super town. I think there's an active scum in there.

The other 2 are deff between Yosu, TT, Stutters, Dis. And the fact I almost forgot Dis makes him prime suspect.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 06 2015 21:02 GMT
#1316
On May 07 2015 05:57 y0su wrote:
So, what's your read on SL now?


Honestly? Still bad town. Whether a mechanical argument is good or not, a townie is more likely to find this argument(especially since Superz meta supported it) and push it and run with it because that's what town does when they truly believe they caught scum.

Outside of my take on that argument, I haven't read his filter recently, just remember that interaction when I was catching up so that's subject to change.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
May 06 2015 21:05 GMT
#1317
Which interaction?
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 06 2015 21:05 GMT
#1318
On May 07 2015 05:58 The Shining wrote:
Err...you, Trfel, Cel. Whatevs.

Ritoky still town btw. Me lynching prpl would be policy.

I need to really read yosu, TT, Stutters. Because by poe, I have Cel, HtS, Ritoky, Super town. I think there's an active scum in there.

The other 2 are deff between Yosu, TT, Stutters, Dis. And the fact I almost forgot Dis makes him prime suspect.


If I had to go tinfoil hat theory and come up with one reason why either of Celestial or ritoky were scum -

Celestial doesn't seem to be actually pushing anyone save prplhz, but he doesn't strike me as an overly aggressive type, certainly wasn't as mafia. I know I primed him on who else he found suspicious, he said y0su. That MIGHT be the only thing jumping at me if I had to go tinfoil on him.

ritoky as I've said many times before is a very good scum player. His strategy as mafia is making sure he's only the second worst in the bunch. I was scared because of what I felt were jumps in logic D1 when he said something about my overly diplomatic tone and the tonal shift.

The thing that jumps out at me on ritoky is that he scumread me D1 on a tonal shift or a tonal argument but then criticised the Superbia train based on the fact that the bases for the scumreads were tonal arguments.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 06 2015 21:06 GMT
#1319
On May 07 2015 06:05 y0su wrote:
Which interaction?


SLs case about Super being scum over claiming RB, 75% chance, etc.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 06 2015 21:07 GMT
#1320
Those would be my two arguments on Celestial/ritoky if I had to go tinfoil on them. Right now, it's not really appropriate and whilst there is no perfect townie, it's something to think about if we're in a D4-beyond situation and they are still alive.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
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