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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 22 2015 22:28 GMT
#576
On April 23 2015 07:26 Damdred wrote:
Yamato looked ok earlier to me, he seemed combative and involved in the thread. I like him still, hes falling off a bit but I still think hes probably town


inclined to agree...but i'd like his take on bh or...well pretty much any other topic being discussed since he went ham on artanis yesterday lol ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 22 2015 22:28 GMT
#578
On April 23 2015 07:27 yamato77 wrote:
alright, so the BH case in and of itself isn't really that bad

honestly, the BH that does this whole martyring thing has been town in the past

I've also seen him be scum and use delay tactics, but is this really a delay tactic?

I'm unsure about this lynch, bros


what's the better lynch?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 22 2015 22:29 GMT
#579
On April 23 2015 07:28 yamato77 wrote:
I don't like Artanis' post where he comments on the case offhandedly and then votes trfel

but I also don't like trfel calling me mafia for shit reasons and then sheeping the BH lynch


truffle is null on you now

don't really like that post from artanis either xP
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 22 2015 22:42 GMT
#586
i've spoken about truffle about as much as i'm going to...if y'all want to lynch truffle instead of bh, you'll be doing it without me ^^ i trust my read on him more than y'all's "his reads on us change look how odd that is" stuff

@yamato - dude, you think it's more likely to come from scum than town to revisit someone they're casing and decide their reasons for scumreading him weren't alignment indicative after all? cause that's what you're telling me right now

@artanis - uhhh, are you reading those in context, artanis, or just filter-diving? cause i'm pretty sure we were discussing you

i'll let truffle address the evolution of his read on you, though...can't speak to that one the way i can the yamato read ^^
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 22 2015 22:51 GMT
#594
On April 23 2015 07:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
@Arsoul Yeah, I'm aware of that. If he felt any of his reasons weren't good though, I'd imagine he'd have said something along the lines of "I didn't think of that" but your arguments weren't really bringing anything new to the table. I can't imagine that with the strength in the words he was saying he'd be swayed by what you said.

Also, as for your meta read on Trfel... You claimed to have a strong meta read for LS too, then you proceeded to misread him twice when he rolled scum twice. I'm sorry, but I don't hold too much faith in that.


lol the fucking difference here artanis is i've actually caught truffle as scum and as 3rd party, so you can be high-and-mighty about the fact that i've been wrong on people before if you want...and i probably will be again, and probably on truffle, too...but that doesn't undermine the accuracy at reading him that i've shown up to this point
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 22 2015 22:52 GMT
#596
On April 23 2015 07:44 yamato77 wrote:
well, in this situation with the lynch on BH forming, it's definitely possible he just effectively "shelves" his read on me to pull back out at a later date when there is such a juicy lynch hanging right in front of him

so yeah, if it was a complete re-evaluation it would be more understandable but it's sort of a "I can't push this right now, so I won't" sort of thing which is actually not so townie


not really how i read it, considering he said the things he didn't like about you didn't necessarily make you scum, but whatever lol...i can see how you get that from his post. i don't
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 22 2015 22:53 GMT
#597
On April 23 2015 07:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 07:51 rsoultin wrote:
On April 23 2015 07:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
@Arsoul Yeah, I'm aware of that. If he felt any of his reasons weren't good though, I'd imagine he'd have said something along the lines of "I didn't think of that" but your arguments weren't really bringing anything new to the table. I can't imagine that with the strength in the words he was saying he'd be swayed by what you said.

Also, as for your meta read on Trfel... You claimed to have a strong meta read for LS too, then you proceeded to misread him twice when he rolled scum twice. I'm sorry, but I don't hold too much faith in that.


lol the fucking difference here artanis is i've actually caught truffle as scum and as 3rd party, so you can be high-and-mighty about the fact that i've been wrong on people before if you want...and i probably will be again, and probably on truffle, too...but that doesn't undermine the accuracy at reading him that i've shown up to this point

Didn't you catch LS as mafia in his first game too?

I'm not getting high-and-mighty at all. I'm simply pointing out that you've been wrong plenty of times before, so saying "I'm telling you he isn't scum" is not very convincing to me. I need reasons.


i've given reasons several times. if you're ignoring them, that's on you
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 22 2015 22:55 GMT
#598
yeah i think i caught ls as mafia cause i didn't know how he played as town and it was a fluke, frankly. it was the first game i've ever played with him

truffle is different, we played several games together before he rolled scum
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 22 2015 23:01 GMT
#600
aperture 3rd party...it's not scum but it was anti-town and he was easy to pick out there, too
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 22 2015 23:13 GMT
#605
meh ><

i kinda hate this cause people asking me about tone/meta reads is not something i'm good at explaining. i kept yelling at people to lynch rayn in guardians but my explanation wasn't good enough for anyone xP naturally he was scum

nnnnnn

so when i think of town truffle i think of a truffle who is not afraid of how he looks

- silly votes on artie and unvoting to become the hammer vote on bh

when i think of town truffle, i think of a truffle whose reads tend to change a lot until he starts tunneling

- the read progressions on you and yamato that you both found "odd"...example of tunneling would be tere ><

when i think of town truffle, i think of a sarcastic twit lol ><

- this is where i started townreading him:

On April 22 2015 05:48 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2015 05:46 rsoultin wrote:
On April 22 2015 05:41 Trfel wrote:
On April 22 2015 05:37 rsoultin wrote:
On April 22 2015 05:30 WaveofShadow wrote:
Yeah jsut fucking do it already.
Every single game. Literally EVERY game I start i contribute in every possible way I can and people call me scum for it. It's so goddamn silly.

Like...fucking meta but show me one game where i don't complain.
ANY GAME.


when i call you scum, wave, you'll know it -flicks- talk to me about the truffle post. you're the one who wanted to talk about things
I'll talk to you about the truffle post if you want!

I thought that it was a really well-constructed post. Especially the part about why WaveofShadow is town,


lol ><

the part about he'd know if he was looking at his scum QT and he definitely would check his scum QT and his scum partner definitely wouldn't be inactive? xP

oh yes, it was amazing, truffle

-golf claps-
Oh, why thank you! I always knew I was amazing, but now I know why!

In all seriousness, what do you make of Blazinghand so far?


when i think of a town truffle, i think of a devil's advocate, much like breshke

- there are several instances where he argued the opposite point of view as a possibility, if not necessarily what he himself believed

^ that is what makes up my read on a town truffle, and i don't know how to make that helpful to the rest of the thread. i've been very successful with it
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 22 2015 23:17 GMT
#607
how many days do you want to put off lynching, yamato?

he was in the thread last night and being obstructive. did you say you liked his case? what did you like about it?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 22 2015 23:27 GMT
#610
On April 23 2015 08:21 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 08:17 rsoultin wrote:
how many days do you want to put off lynching, yamato?

he was in the thread last night and being obstructive. did you say you liked his case? what did you like about it?

I said it wasn't that bad

Do you really believe ONLY scum BH makes a case like that? I certainly don't.

I don't even like damdred that much this game. I don't really care for his responses to the case either. He essentially came out with nothing.

How was he being obstructive? He argued about his case, sure, but who wouldn't want to defend their piece of work? It's silly to scumread him for believing his read.

What do we really lose by not lynching right now, exactly? I argued against this sort of idea before but only as a means to actually apply pressure. It doesn't mean anything to lynch BH here because he's really only been in the thread to post his case and defend it.


lol it was terrible >< mostly narrative and almost everything taken out-of-context. in a game this short, even with limited time, he should be able to read the thread at least

refusing to talk about anything else is being obstructive. and no, i don't think that only a scum BH could make that case. I'm not even sure that only a scum BH would play this constant game of just missing the deadline oh pllleeeease don't lynch me day after day. i will say that i have no expectation that he'll become any more readable than he already is, and no one has a good alternative lynch. if y'all want to put it off an extra day in the (probably vain) hope he'll contribute anything else, i guess that's fine?

but i fully expect something from the two of you fighting it this hard, because i don't want to be having the same fucking conversation tomorrow, capice?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 22 2015 23:38 GMT
#617
lol ><

if he'd stop scumreading me all the time ;o; it's like i rolled scum against him and he lost all faith in me or something
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 22 2015 23:42 GMT
#620
[image loading]

lol xP more seriously, yeah, if he decides to just...stick to his case and do jack-all besides plus never be around at deadline, i really don't see us not lynching him this game?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 22 2015 23:45 GMT
#621
ftr i don't actually have a problem with people making cases and sticking to them, but not making them more readable on request, and a case so poorly built at that...eh -shrugs-
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 22 2015 23:51 GMT
#624
oh my earlier list post still stands...i probably should explain my reads more but...uhhh

i don't know how well anyone follows my reads anyway ><

i don't actually think that if bh flips scum that completely clears damdred, though...both are capable of bussing i'm more than sure, and damdred i've had trouble getting a lock on all game

yamato i still kinda think is town but if i'm wrong on anyone in my town list it's him, cause i have no clue if he's capable of pushing this hard as scum, and i didn't think that all of his pushes were wrong or bad or keying in on odd things

breshke, truffle, wave and palmar should all pretty much never be lynched imo lol >< and yes the palmar read is pure tone and i have no clue whatsoever how to explain it so i won't even try
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 24 2015 00:11 GMT
#644
lol the first thought that went through my head was...

the fuck? we can't be that wrong about everything that scum would rather no-shoot >< blah now i have to reread

oooor apparently can kill two of us the next night -_- if they no-shoot

lovely
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 24 2015 00:18 GMT
#653
so really what that mechanic is there for is to discourage blue claims >< lol cause you can't possibly know (unless your role couldn't prevent kp) if it was a no-shot or you and mafia interacting with one another

well, poo -_-
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 24 2015 00:22 GMT
#656
umm before rereading cause i'm a lazy-ass who doesn't like to put the work in if i'm just gonna die before i can post anything? lol

no

like there were some people who were pretty blase about the lynch but i can't tell if it's because they knew he'd flip town or because they just knew better than the rest of us lol >< it's not like there was anyone else close to being lynched day 1
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 24 2015 00:24 GMT
#658
On April 24 2015 09:21 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2015 09:20 Breshke wrote:
On April 24 2015 09:15 Palmar wrote:
Yes I found it.

So I'm bad sorry. Mafia absolutely held their shot. They always do when this option is available. ALWAYS.


I don't really get that. Like if there is a detective role they are just letting them get a free check. By not killing anyone they ensure our Pr doesn't die and if we have a saving role using two KP in one night feels like it increases the chances that they will get a save.

Does anyone have any conclusions from BH flipping town because i got none currently

I'm kind of suspicious of the way that yamato77 dealt with the Blazinghand wagon. Does anyone else agree, or am I being tunneled against him?


damdred and artanis are the ones who come to mind for me, actually lol >< i don't remember what yamato said

i know damdred was pretty apathetic about the lynch train he essentially started, or at least laid the groundwork for

and artanis was just like yeah we can do that...but didn't push it and instead focused on you, truffle, who he didn't have a conclusion about as it turns out anyway ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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