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On April 23 2015 07:26 Damdred wrote: Yamato looked ok earlier to me, he seemed combative and involved in the thread. I like him still, hes falling off a bit but I still think hes probably town inclined to agree...but i'd like his take on bh or...well pretty much any other topic being discussed since he went ham on artanis yesterday lol >< | ||
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On April 23 2015 07:27 yamato77 wrote: alright, so the BH case in and of itself isn't really that bad honestly, the BH that does this whole martyring thing has been town in the past I've also seen him be scum and use delay tactics, but is this really a delay tactic? I'm unsure about this lynch, bros what's the better lynch? | ||
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On April 23 2015 07:28 yamato77 wrote: I don't like Artanis' post where he comments on the case offhandedly and then votes trfel but I also don't like trfel calling me mafia for shit reasons and then sheeping the BH lynch truffle is null on you now don't really like that post from artanis either xP | ||
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@yamato - dude, you think it's more likely to come from scum than town to revisit someone they're casing and decide their reasons for scumreading him weren't alignment indicative after all? cause that's what you're telling me right now @artanis - uhhh, are you reading those in context, artanis, or just filter-diving? cause i'm pretty sure we were discussing you i'll let truffle address the evolution of his read on you, though...can't speak to that one the way i can the yamato read ^^ | ||
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On April 23 2015 07:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote: @Arsoul Yeah, I'm aware of that. If he felt any of his reasons weren't good though, I'd imagine he'd have said something along the lines of "I didn't think of that" but your arguments weren't really bringing anything new to the table. I can't imagine that with the strength in the words he was saying he'd be swayed by what you said. Also, as for your meta read on Trfel... You claimed to have a strong meta read for LS too, then you proceeded to misread him twice when he rolled scum twice. I'm sorry, but I don't hold too much faith in that. lol the fucking difference here artanis is i've actually caught truffle as scum and as 3rd party, so you can be high-and-mighty about the fact that i've been wrong on people before if you want...and i probably will be again, and probably on truffle, too...but that doesn't undermine the accuracy at reading him that i've shown up to this point | ||
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On April 23 2015 07:44 yamato77 wrote: well, in this situation with the lynch on BH forming, it's definitely possible he just effectively "shelves" his read on me to pull back out at a later date when there is such a juicy lynch hanging right in front of him so yeah, if it was a complete re-evaluation it would be more understandable but it's sort of a "I can't push this right now, so I won't" sort of thing which is actually not so townie not really how i read it, considering he said the things he didn't like about you didn't necessarily make you scum, but whatever lol...i can see how you get that from his post. i don't | ||
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On April 23 2015 07:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Didn't you catch LS as mafia in his first game too? I'm not getting high-and-mighty at all. I'm simply pointing out that you've been wrong plenty of times before, so saying "I'm telling you he isn't scum" is not very convincing to me. I need reasons. i've given reasons several times. if you're ignoring them, that's on you | ||
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truffle is different, we played several games together before he rolled scum | ||
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i kinda hate this cause people asking me about tone/meta reads is not something i'm good at explaining. i kept yelling at people to lynch rayn in guardians but my explanation wasn't good enough for anyone xP naturally he was scum nnnnnn so when i think of town truffle i think of a truffle who is not afraid of how he looks - silly votes on artie and unvoting to become the hammer vote on bh when i think of town truffle, i think of a truffle whose reads tend to change a lot until he starts tunneling - the read progressions on you and yamato that you both found "odd"...example of tunneling would be tere >< when i think of town truffle, i think of a sarcastic twit lol >< - this is where i started townreading him: On April 22 2015 05:48 Trfel wrote: Oh, why thank you! I always knew I was amazing, but now I know why! In all seriousness, what do you make of Blazinghand so far? when i think of a town truffle, i think of a devil's advocate, much like breshke - there are several instances where he argued the opposite point of view as a possibility, if not necessarily what he himself believed ^ that is what makes up my read on a town truffle, and i don't know how to make that helpful to the rest of the thread. i've been very successful with it | ||
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he was in the thread last night and being obstructive. did you say you liked his case? what did you like about it? | ||
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On April 23 2015 08:21 yamato77 wrote: I said it wasn't that bad Do you really believe ONLY scum BH makes a case like that? I certainly don't. I don't even like damdred that much this game. I don't really care for his responses to the case either. He essentially came out with nothing. How was he being obstructive? He argued about his case, sure, but who wouldn't want to defend their piece of work? It's silly to scumread him for believing his read. What do we really lose by not lynching right now, exactly? I argued against this sort of idea before but only as a means to actually apply pressure. It doesn't mean anything to lynch BH here because he's really only been in the thread to post his case and defend it. lol it was terrible >< mostly narrative and almost everything taken out-of-context. in a game this short, even with limited time, he should be able to read the thread at least refusing to talk about anything else is being obstructive. and no, i don't think that only a scum BH could make that case. I'm not even sure that only a scum BH would play this constant game of just missing the deadline oh pllleeeease don't lynch me day after day. i will say that i have no expectation that he'll become any more readable than he already is, and no one has a good alternative lynch. if y'all want to put it off an extra day in the (probably vain) hope he'll contribute anything else, i guess that's fine? but i fully expect something from the two of you fighting it this hard, because i don't want to be having the same fucking conversation tomorrow, capice? | ||
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if he'd stop scumreading me all the time ;o; it's like i rolled scum against him and he lost all faith in me or something | ||
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![[image loading]](https://31.media.tumblr.com/b58f25c11a02d8bd9736c67829c6c9fb/tumblr_n5wqynbBJA1qdiljao5_r1_400.gif) lol xP more seriously, yeah, if he decides to just...stick to his case and do jack-all besides plus never be around at deadline, i really don't see us not lynching him this game? | ||
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i don't know how well anyone follows my reads anyway >< i don't actually think that if bh flips scum that completely clears damdred, though...both are capable of bussing i'm more than sure, and damdred i've had trouble getting a lock on all game yamato i still kinda think is town but if i'm wrong on anyone in my town list it's him, cause i have no clue if he's capable of pushing this hard as scum, and i didn't think that all of his pushes were wrong or bad or keying in on odd things breshke, truffle, wave and palmar should all pretty much never be lynched imo lol >< and yes the palmar read is pure tone and i have no clue whatsoever how to explain it so i won't even try | ||
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the fuck? we can't be that wrong about everything that scum would rather no-shoot >< blah now i have to reread oooor apparently can kill two of us the next night -_- if they no-shoot lovely | ||
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well, poo -_- | ||
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no like there were some people who were pretty blase about the lynch but i can't tell if it's because they knew he'd flip town or because they just knew better than the rest of us lol >< it's not like there was anyone else close to being lynched day 1 | ||
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On April 24 2015 09:21 Trfel wrote: I'm kind of suspicious of the way that yamato77 dealt with the Blazinghand wagon. Does anyone else agree, or am I being tunneled against him? damdred and artanis are the ones who come to mind for me, actually lol >< i don't remember what yamato said i know damdred was pretty apathetic about the lynch train he essentially started, or at least laid the groundwork for and artanis was just like yeah we can do that...but didn't push it and instead focused on you, truffle, who he didn't have a conclusion about as it turns out anyway >< | ||
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