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I received a qt and I'm not mason | ||
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On April 16 2015 17:17 loafery wrote: Mafia Oh Thst explains s lot | ||
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On April 16 2015 07:53 WaveofShadow wrote: Wasn't there another GoT game where someone smurfed as Oberyn and randomly got the Oberyn role? Found first Mafia ##Vote: WoS "Hey guys, let's talk about something that isn't related to solving the game and would probably be discussed on pre game?" | ||
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Every good guy dies but are immediately revived All hail Shen long! And the dragon balls (7 gods) | ||
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Who the fuck is cold hands? | ||
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Or the bliss that a lover can bring If I say God you might think of a man sitting high in the clouds Or the glory that the word fails to sound | ||
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On April 16 2015 23:25 WaveofShadow wrote: And GB, since you're back, care to explain your drunkposting a bit? Yes deer. What do you need explaining? | ||
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It's like playing a game inside a game | ||
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On April 17 2015 03:50 LightningStrike wrote: Did GlowingBear claimed Mafia with Artanis? Nope, dear LS, I claimed having a qt with him | ||
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On April 17 2015 03:49 sicklucker wrote: Explain your vote gberish Ok I voted you because I think you're mafia | ||
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It's not a Mafia qt it's a, uh, "special obs qt" | ||
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On April 17 2015 05:10 LightningStrike wrote: lies. You and Artanis Mafia now who is your unnamed partner? *hint* it strikes when a storm happens | ||
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On April 17 2015 05:36 WaveofShadow wrote: GB until you explain what exactly you meant by QT, many people (me included ) have very good reason to assume it's a mafia QT. Also vivax what exactly is your prodding of oats supposed to accomplish? In any other thread it would look worse because it would seem like you're shitting up the thread for no reason, but there isn't really much else going on. I thought it was obvious I was joking | ||
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On April 17 2015 07:26 sicklucker wrote: I think its terrible. Ill just vote gb because hes being a prick and voting a town and ill probably never figure him out This post is horrible. You actually may be Mafia. | ||
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Sicklucker made a couple of bad posts already | ||
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On April 17 2015 02:21 sicklucker wrote: Guys I got an idea. Lets lynch artanis unless he proves hes town. Because a scum artanis will roll over and die! artanis[xp] This is sort of revenge for when you left me as a solo mafia one game ;p I didn't like this post because it sounded very forced and it is useless when he started to inquire WoS for talking about unrelated and not game-solving focused posting. Feels like an unsuccessful effort to appear natural On April 17 2015 07:26 sicklucker wrote: I think its terrible. Ill just vote gb because hes being a prick and voting a town and ill probably never figure him out Uncalled for, Unreasonable justification just to call himself a town. Uncharacteristic since his common town stance is "leave it to me, I've got all figured out!" On April 17 2015 08:17 sicklucker wrote: im just happy to omgus untill one of us are dead. Makes the game more enjoyable to me Unreasonable ranting, specially towards a game that is slow but nothing bad to call it terrible and to omgus for fun. Just an excuse to vote. Conclusion: SL is Mafia | ||
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On April 17 2015 09:57 sicklucker wrote: you know he was joking right ls? Its kind of an awkward joke tho. Gb heres ls answer that he says everygame about me "I have no idea how to read sicklucker he has tricked me before" If that's his heuristics, he soon won't be able to read anyone He also didn't say a thing about my case | ||
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On April 17 2015 10:52 WaveofShadow wrote: So they're both scum? How does that work? I gave the traction the thread needed Now I need your view on it | ||
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This is the slowest day1 I've participated in TL Mafia. Maybe it's a parallel to the slow development of Daenerys subplot? You guys never fail to amuse me. At this point I want to lynch scummy lurkers | ||
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HF, VA, that guy I don't know | ||
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On April 18 2015 03:24 Vivax wrote: And why don't you include Palmar? I don't believe his claim. Because he is not a lurker, nor scummy? | ||
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On April 18 2015 03:35 WaveofShadow wrote: And those people are who I have wanted to lynch from the start. And as I recall you called me scum. What's going on GB? You wanted to lynch them from the start. I want to lynch them now. They had time to come to the thread and give us information. In a slow game like this, sitting back is comfortable for Mafia, but you need to give people time to prove they're town. They had enough time now. They didn't when you first started scumreading them. Also, you should know that early cases, although based on true beliefs, are usually made to generate discussion rather than actually trying to get the target lynched. | ||
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If I had to pick one, I'd pick the latter. HF is an important asset to town if he is townie, and VA lurks as both alignments, so lynching him for lurking isn't the best heuristic. In the other hand, the guy I know nothing, I know nothing. And without information on him, I know less. I can't go to day2 with a guy who delivered no information to me and that I have no idea of his meta | ||
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On April 18 2015 04:02 Oatsmaster wrote: Since when have you lynched for information gb? You seriously have town reads on all the active people? I've always defended lynching scummy lurkers day1 since Avogadro Mafia. I've explained why not posting in this game is scummy. I don't have town reads on every actives, but at least they are dropping information in the thread and it means I have something to work with to further analyse their alignment later. | ||
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On April 18 2015 04:18 Oatsmaster wrote: GlowingBear, why haven't you pursed active people that you don't have a town read on? I did when I was online | ||
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On April 18 2015 04:14 GlowingBear wrote: WoS, who would you lynch besides holyflare? | ||
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On April 18 2015 04:18 WaveofShadow wrote: VA. Your logic of HF being more helpful as the day goes on if town however is faulty, keeping him alive as scum as the game progresses is an equal am opposite effect if you're talking meta. Fuck meta, however. We're lynching HF regardless. I'm not talking meta, I'm saying that HF is a very good player that shouldn't be our first priority if we are lynching scummy lurkets. Like, WoS, HF didn't say a single word yet. And you know he is very active as scum. You can say that the lack of his contribution is anti town but you can't assume he is definetly scum as you're doing right now | ||
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On April 18 2015 04:48 Vivax wrote: Same could be said about the guy you want to policy. Difference between you and Wave is that you think HF can be an asset. I've explained why I prefer other targets as a priority, but I think HF is lynchable. I certainly prefer lynching other lurker other than HF simply because I know that HF is an important asset if he is town and I can read him well nonetheless. WoS, in the other hand, wants to lynch HF because he is strongly scumreading him for a thing that doesn't confirm him as Mafia (regarding his scum meta) | ||
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On April 18 2015 04:53 WaveofShadow wrote: Viva what do you think of GB exactly? He's in the lower end of my scum list with oats. Lol oats??? Have you ever played with him as scum? | ||
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On April 18 2015 05:06 Vivax wrote: GB have you stopped thinking that SL is mafia? Nope, the more I think about it, the more I see him as Mafia. And I had WoS as a null (some posts felt townish, other mafiaish), but I'm having a hard time believing town WoS would really believe drunk GB would be dumb enough to say he has a qt in a mason-less game and really mean it, and that he really wouldn't realise I was trying to develop discussion in this discussion-less thread. | ||
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On April 18 2015 05:13 Vivax wrote: Why aren't you confident that you can lynch SL today? ... I've already said I'd prefer to lynch a scummy lurker at this point. It's not that I can't lynch SL, it's that I can deal with him later since I have information on him | ||
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On April 18 2015 05:21 Holyflare wrote: yooooooo Insightful | ||
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On April 18 2015 05:40 Holyflare wrote: LightningStrike ^ Read his filter First and foremost the entirety of his first page contains not only basic one liners, which is pretty uncharacteristic for LightningStrike, but also a distinct lack of meta (why would he be trying to change this I do not know but regardless of what he's trying to change his filter is contentless). It is defensive over the cards against humanity/teamspeak thing which fair enough might be the same of any alignment but then it contains attempts to try and scum hunt which just don't look like any kind of town scum hunting that I can think of, examples being: + Show Spoiler [ scummy gb pushing] + On April 17 2015 03:50 LightningStrike wrote: Did GlowingBear claimed Mafia with Artanis? On April 17 2015 04:35 LightningStrike wrote: There is no masons in this game therefore you must be Mafia for having a qt with him! ##Vote: GlowingBear On April 17 2015 05:10 LightningStrike wrote: lies. You and Artanis Mafia now who is your unnamed partner? After the last quote GB is clearly joking and makes it clear with the following quote below, however, in an attempt to actually try and continue his "fitting in" he continues to push this point AS SCUMMY. + Show Spoiler [continuing to push this non-point] + On April 17 2015 05:38 LightningStrike wrote: Not me I not Mafia and you know that. On April 17 2015 09:18 LightningStrike wrote: Ya because GB claimed to have a QT with Artanis and there is no masons in this game therefore they both scum together :O On April 17 2015 09:55 LightningStrike wrote: You're mafia. Otherwise I would just policy lynch sicklucker Day 3 out ![]() Then SL tells ls that GB was joking and ls says "oh I can't read sarcasm" which was the most disingenuous (maybe second most to wave pushing this gb qt shit) in the game. Following up from these quotes of silly trying to fit in the other classic scum tell is his defense of all these players that constantly keeps happening (just saw he posted a list with lots of town reads somehow too): + Show Spoiler [sl defence] + On April 17 2015 10:55 LightningStrike wrote: Sicklucker can do your 2nd point regarding the "leave it to me I got all figured out" as both alignments. Point #1 was regarding Student VI when both Artanis and Sicklucker rolled scum together and Artanis gave up Day 2 idk how it seems forced? 3rd point yeah it might be unreasonable ranting but I kinda hate how slow the game is. I think it's easier to read sicklucker as either alignment around Day 2 to Day 3 area when it becomes painfully obvious when he's scum. + Show Spoiler [scummy palmar defense] + On April 17 2015 11:51 LightningStrike wrote: Oats it's the weekend he can't be assed to play on the weekend normally :O On April 17 2015 12:06 LightningStrike wrote: He prob forgot this game was going on lol. Also I <3 Palmar. On April 17 2015 23:22 LightningStrike wrote: Well Palmar is unCCed blue so he's town for that. saying un cc'd blue is equally silly especially as people outline why not to trust it and he says he wants to use meta only when "100% right" but uses it all the time to defend all of these people 10/10 I really thought he was confused and he is newbie after all, so WoS pushing the matter was more damning than him. But continuously pushing the matter looks forced. I'd lynch | ||
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I'm voting LS until someone else agrees to vote deep soul or loafery | ||
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I had a haircut appointment | ||
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On April 18 2015 06:45 Holyflare wrote: What is this trash? You are trying a new method to read me and you 10/10 the case but are begging for any excuse to NOT be on the case you 10/10 and want to move onto deep soul the modkill guy or loafery the just new guy who I bet you haven't even looked into in his previous games. I'll tell you right now that I have and this is far more of a coin flip than anything else you've said. If you read the game you would realise that I'd rather lynch scummy lurker. And I realised Koshi only now. Somehow I forgot about him and I think he is an okay lynch today because he falls under this category | ||
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On April 18 2015 07:05 Holyflare wrote: You say you're only going to use meta when it's 100% right yet you defend all of these afk people using meta when you have no idea whether it's true or not. Palmar fake claiming a role (he's 100% done this as mafia before, heavyweight championship (2 or 3?) being one of them, although at a different time and circumstance completely but regardless your meta read on him is incomplete and it's scummy that you just flat out use it to defend him when he hasn't really done much at all. Saying he's an "uncc'd blue" is silly since you've seen a plethora of people claim roles d1 as mafia. GB literally just did it last game (ongoing so w/e). It just looks like you have far too much information to defend all of these people. It looks like you're trying to be "TOO right" with it to the extent where you just only believe what you write and nothing to the contrary because you know their alignments. You do a lot of ONLY defending and not much pushing people who are scum. You use all of these metas to defend and none of the meta to attack. This can be seen when you show your list with like 6 null people on it and your 1 scum read is VA who has the exact same reason to be scum as all your people on your null list but is in fact in your scum list. It can also be seen with your GB read where you town read him but post hesitance in that read at the same time. You don't use meta to pick out these scum reads and null reads and say he does this as town or mafia or whatever. Only defending. This is spot on. HF, I'd lynch LS with you, but I think scummy lurkers is better and that Koshi falls under this category pretty well. Why wouldn't we lynch Koshi? | ||
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On April 18 2015 07:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Can we lynch Palmar for this? I really really want to. This | ||
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I'm sheeping HF HF, in order of preference: Koshi Loafery LS Sicklucker You say the name, I vote | ||
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I'm voting LS with you | ||
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On April 18 2015 08:29 Holyflare wrote: i kind of want to kill glowingbear because he obviously just gives no shits at all and his train of thought on ls makes no sense whatsoever 10/10 case on ls would lynch would lynch loafery more though just waiting for an excuse not to vote ls votes loafery afk's long time with no word as to why till he gets back still afk's vote's ls afk's again and doesn't care about flip + he hasn't scum read me yet, legitimate heuristic Then you're confirmed Mafia because it will be the second townie you will push Or are you mad because when I decide to sheep you, you screw up? | ||
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On April 18 2015 08:37 Holyflare wrote: but none of those reasons are that i'm mafia gb? Well, I'm trying a new method with you ![]() Anyway, I think sicklucker looks worse for hammering LS | ||
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On April 18 2015 08:44 Holyflare wrote: his alternative would be to what...? lynch me? how does he look worse? To stay in his scumread throughout the entire day instead of switching in deadline into a townie? | ||
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How do you read WoS and Artanis now? | ||
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On April 18 2015 11:11 WaveofShadow wrote: No no, I'm fine with him elaborating here. I can hold two conversations at once, though I agree he needs to do something besides push SL and/or sheep. What did I say that makes me full of shit, exactly? I'll say it in a moment, I'm getting ready to a party. Hold my beer | ||
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On April 18 2015 10:39 WaveofShadow wrote: Moving on, some reads based on EoD and post-EoD: GlowingBear I absolutely didn't feel GB was trying to generate discussion in the thread by calling me scum right away You are well aware that the way I voted you and sicklucker is a very good way of generating discussion. Foolishness did the exact same move on the shadow game where you played as town with him. You should also be aware of how I post weird posts early day one and how I get discussion that way (you played Russia Mafia with me)and drunkposting stupid shit about a qt. My exposure to drunk mafia players is raynpelikoneet, and that should say it all, to be honestAnother bullshit, since I got scum Robik lynched specially because I was drunk and you were his partner that time. It may not be likely, but I certainly find it possible that a drunk GB got online and acted like an idiot, softclaiming scum in thread either as some sort of bragI never do this shit. The only time I bragged was fanfic Mafia and I totally learned how stupid I was for end of game or because he was just drunk. As such suspicions on him were open from the startYou're admitting that I generated discussion since you admit suspicions were cast on me + why would scum want to get suspected? You're reasoning here is extremely lacked. As the thread progresses I continually speak with him, continue to refer to him calling me scum but he doesn't seem to want to cement a read on me one way or the other. I was leaning scum on him as I stated earlier. The above quote gave me pause because although it could be bullshit, I'm not so sure mafia talks about methods of analysis. It's not of a scum mindset to really think about that kind of stuff. He later continues to bring it up in thread without actually elaborating which HF himself points out which loses him a couple of those points.Absurd reason to think I'm town. This post is evidently null. Why are you afraid of calling me Mafia straight away instead of being this wishy washy for very bad reason? Ultimately I'm right back where I started on him. Likely 3rd scum, especially given the sheeping of HF at the end of the day which was done in the most lick-his-boots way possible. Considerations in bold You're full of shit. Respectfully ![]() | ||
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On April 18 2015 12:51 Onegu wrote: Wtf did I start? I'm quoting every like small message looking for hidden messages... Well I stole it from dabears from desert mini, but I made it popular The wrong thread is strong in this one | ||
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Party was boring, I came back home Who's mafia? | ||
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On April 18 2015 12:26 WaveofShadow wrote: Respect noted. ![]() If you're looking to Shadow Game as an example, you probably shouldn't since he was suspected almost the entire game and his reads were bad. I don't remember about you posting weird shit day one, and I don't remember Russia mafia. I'll look it up. Yes, you're right generating discussion by having people suspect you is a shit way to play scum, hence the 'me thinking you're drunk and playing like shit.' Just because you were successful on a YOLO switch on an afk player once upon a time doesn't all of a sudden make you the Drunken Master of mafia. My reason for thinking you might be town is not absurd in the slightest and you get no points for being a good little boy and attempting to negate townpoints on yourself. I also don't see how you think I'm being wishy washy when I flat out say you're likely 3rd scum. The problem with your counterpoints to mine is that most of them are based on what you think my knowledge of you should or shouldn't be, and not only do you have no way to prove it one way or another, but that wouldn't matter to me at all since I am very well aware of what I am thinking and what I know/don't know/have forgotten. I'm using the example of the shadow game because foolishness developed discussion by casting an unexplained vote on you. That's exactly what I did here. I meant I'm not stupid when I'm drunk. I'm just drunk. Which means the qt thing should be an obvious joke to you. I say you've been wishy washy because a weak reason like that shouldn't make you pause as you said. You're calling me the third, NOW, but didn't attempt to have me lynched yesterday My counterpoint are me bringing facts about you. It has the purpose to show you how it's hard to believe you're genuinely believing the arguments you create | ||
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On April 18 2015 13:49 Oatsmaster wrote: Wave or you + loaf and maybe onegu Lol Onegu????? | ||
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On April 18 2015 12:28 WaveofShadow wrote: Well that's a nice upgrade to the Koshi method of scumhunting. Care to elaborate? Scum tell: I write things in bold inside quotations when I'm Mafia and I do not tunnel you for that That is what is going on inside HF head | ||
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On April 18 2015 13:59 Oatsmaster wrote: Why are you so spiky glowing bear? Because I'm actually a pineapple | ||
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On April 18 2015 07:52 sicklucker wrote: artanis vote ls and ill unvote you Explain to me why you tried to get your scumread to vote for another scumread of yours. Why does it make difference if Artanis votes LS and why would "blackmail"(I don't know the correct word) him and promise unvoting him just to get LS lynched if Artanis IS a scumread of yours? I'm also waiting to know your updated reads on Artanis and WoS. | ||
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On April 18 2015 08:26 sicklucker wrote: vivax you could have voted before me and had your choice of ls/hf lynch. You could also have voted artanis. Instead you went for a lynch on a possible power role that was never gonna happen On April 18 2015 07:42 sicklucker wrote: Like palmers not the jailkeeper thats not something you claim on day 1 ever. Its just a joke from an on going game How does these two go along? Updated read on Vivax, please | ||
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On April 17 2015 02:19 sicklucker wrote: oats is town! Also, explain this read to me, please. | ||
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On April 18 2015 14:28 Oatsmaster wrote: Everyone thinks I'm town mate, get with the programme. Scary shit, isn't it | ||
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On April 19 2015 02:25 WaveofShadow wrote: After my conversation with him last night. That is a weakness of mine though and we'll see what the next day brings. At the very least i need to not tunnel him completely all game without looking back objectively. One major issue I have with my own scum narrative on him is the meta case on LightningStrike. I can't tell what is more likely from HF; that he truly believed what he wrote about LS and meta in general or he found that meta as scum perfectly knowing it would essentially put the nail in LS's coffin due to those similarities. It bothers me that you made two posts on holyflare, clearly being suspicions of him, but never saying he is scum. Then you engage in a conversation as you've never been suspicious of him. It sounded like you both started the conversation with the objective of you dropping your suspicions on him. | ||
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On April 19 2015 17:16 sicklucker wrote: no vig claim? would be nice to know which one was mafia killed in case you die tonight. Theres a reason you alays claim as a veg here. So we dont work with bad information. Im gonna asume artanis was the veg shot since shooting palmer was a travesty. ##Vote: sicklucker | ||
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On April 19 2015 04:19 WaveofShadow wrote: Lol nothing is enough for you. I call him scum all day and that's not good. Then I try and evaluate my read and that's not good either. You koshi and oats can all have a field day with me tomorrow if you like, but I'm not going anywhere, nor am I going to back down and give up like in recent games. At the very least I'm going to fucking try even if it doesn't get us anywhere because I'm sick of it. The problem here is how you did that. In a big list of scummy lurkers, you went straight on on a strong player. You could have any other one lynched. I thought about lynching holyflare, but he would be the last of that list. You simply scumread him because he was AFK. After, you've made posts regarding him, throwing suspicions but not actually calling him scum. Then you reevaluated him over a conversation that wasn't so revealing. It looked, to my eyes, that you decided to reevaluate your read on HF BEFORE the conversation developed. But I've made a quick skim through the thread and now I actually think you're trying to solve the game, actively pushing things and taking genuine stances. You're probably town, after all | ||
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On April 20 2015 02:26 Holyflare wrote: thank you for the continued narrative of your afking scummy life You have to see what I've been putting in my qt Artanis is now commenting on my lunch menu | ||
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On April 20 2015 02:44 Koshi wrote: I have nothing. People sucked. Holyflare case on LS could be mafia HF. Vivax doing nothing could be mafia. GB giving 4 names and [b]knowing nothing/b] could be mafia. I don't even have anything on WoS so he could be mafia. SL could mafia. tbh everybody could be mafia. Unvote me pls. I am not mafia. I could be Jon Snow. | ||
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It is scum agenda because I see a guy disorganising town. His conclusion that scum shot palmar is odd. There is only one guy who would play that bad as vigi (shooting artanis) and that guy is sicklucker. But he says he isn't the vigi, which makes his analysis of the nightkill specially scummy. | ||
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I'm town. Try again. | ||
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On April 20 2015 06:56 sicklucker wrote: Give the thread one reason scum? because you havent gave one yet... I've gave plenty. Don't force me into writing a full case I'm not interested in making | ||
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"Palmar was shot by Mafia. GB is afraid of Palmar. Therefore, GB is Mafia" Your conclusions aren't natural. They are reached with the sole purpose of making a read. That's why I don't believe in you | ||
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On April 20 2015 07:09 sicklucker wrote: that has nothing to do with me being mafia This has a lot to do with other people being mafia | ||
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It really bothers me that everybody is townreading SL but nobody can draft a single word on why he is town. | ||
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On April 20 2015 07:42 sicklucker wrote: inc hf bus. Gb will probably come back with something weak later. But remember this moment when he froze and ran away from the thread I love this stupidity since I already wrote things on why I think you're scummy | ||
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.:Sicklucker is Mafia:. 1) Unreasonable scumread on LS (soft scumreading on WoS) + Show Spoiler + On April 17 2015 00:13 sicklucker wrote: Wave your opening is asking ls to come play pictionary. This is kind of bad your taking two players away from the game... On April 17 2015 01:10 sicklucker wrote: says he has no time. runs off on waves win to play other games hum... On April 17 2015 00:20 sicklucker wrote: Did ls play pictionary? because thats more scummy then whatever you did Here, SL uses poor reasoning to scumread LS. It's not sicklucker's regular WIFOM, it is a simple argument of "you preferred to play another game instead of this because *you are afraid". You COULD say that he was trying to generate discussion. But he ended hammering LS, which means his scumread on him, even if it was based on weak reasoning, was legit. It's not that HF's case changed his POV since he never aknowledged it in his filter. In the other hand, although LS was having similar behavior as WoS, SL ignores him throghout the whole game, just casting a weak suspicion on him in early day1 and not caring for him anymore. 2) Scumreading Artanis for Weak Reasoning + Negotiating with Him + Show Spoiler + On April 17 2015 02:21 sicklucker wrote: Guys I got an idea. Lets lynch artanis unless he proves hes town. Because a scum artanis will roll over and die! artanis[xp] This is sort of revenge for when you left me as a solo mafia one game ;p Anyone who has played with Artanis knows that he does not have a solid meta. Lurking or not lurking isn't too much indicative to make Artanis deserve a day1 lynch. This could also be a discussion generating argument, but he kept his vote on Artanis for very long although Art was one of the top town in this game with so many scummy lurkers. Now check this post: + Show Spoiler + On April 18 2015 07:52 sicklucker wrote: artanis vote ls and ill unvote you He scumread Artanis throghout the whole day1. Then he asks his SCUMREAD to vote his ANOTHER SCUMREAD? Why? You could read it as a trap request. If he refuses to lynch, they could be scum together. If Artanis move his vote, it is a survival/mislynch move. Artanis actually changes his vote and what happens? SICKLUCKER HAMMERS TOWN LS. He voted with this MAIN SCUMREAD and ACTIVELY CONVINCED HIS SCUMREAD TO VOTE ON ANOTHER TARGET AND DIDN'T DRAW ANY CONCLUSIONS FROM IT. Later, on day2: + Show Spoiler + On April 20 2015 06:31 sicklucker wrote: I did not think artanis was townie. Both were pretty null and either could have been the shot. I believe palmer to be more likely the nk. I read your argument and I still believe. your argument was just "YOUR WRONG" btw it wasint rly an argument "Artanis was null" Null NULL ARTANIS WAS NULL NULL LET ME VOTE ARTANIS BECAUSE I THINK HE IS MAFIA NO WAIT HE IS NULL NULL NULLLLLLLLL ARTANIS WAS SHOT BY VIGI BECAUSE HE WAS SCUM WAIT HE WAS NULL NULL NULLLLLLLL 3) Unreasonable Townread on Palmar + Show Spoiler + On April 17 2015 13:50 sicklucker wrote: I acualy think palmers less likely to play as town then scum This is EXTREME bullshit because: (i) Palmar's meta isn't fixed (ii) Palmar usually doesn't give a shit when he is mafia. Sicklucker even sacrificed him in Guardians XXX (iii) Sicklucker just played in an ongoing game (so I won't talk more about this) where Palmar was town and ACTIVE as fuck. This townread is completely in dissonance with Sicklucker's experience with Palmar. It simply makes no sense. 4) Throws suspicions based on an affirmative even he denied + Show Spoiler + On April 18 2015 07:42 sicklucker wrote: Like palmers not the jailkeeper thats not something you claim on day 1 ever. Its just a joke from an on going game DISSONANCE BARRIER On April 18 2015 08:26 sicklucker wrote: vivax you could have voted before me and had your choice of ls/hf lynch. You could also have voted artanis. Instead you went for a lynch on a possible power role that was never gonna happen "You're suspicious for voting on a possible blue role which I said with certainty that he wasn't a blue role" 5) Forced NK WIFOM and a Scumread after it We all know that sicklucker is a master of WIFOM, but this post simply sounds fabricated: + Show Spoiler + On April 19 2015 17:16 sicklucker wrote: no vig claim? would be nice to know which one was mafia killed in case you die tonight. Theres a reason you alays claim as a veg here. So we dont work with bad information. Im gonna asume artanis was the veg shot since shooting palmer was a travesty. Asks for a claim so people doesn't work with bad information. Immediately works with bad information - the assumption artanis was vigi shot instead of mafia is contrived at best. Palmar was scummy. Palmar was one of the wagons. Palmar did NOTHING. Why would mafia prefer to kill PALMAR other than ARTANIS? Remember that EVEN SICKLUCKER DIDN'T BELIEVE IN PALMAR'S CLAIM, which makes this "natural conclusion" impossible. + Show Spoiler + On April 19 2015 18:01 sicklucker wrote: Then why did you want to lynch palmer? the guy who figured out your mafia recently. Hey look you nked him too "GB, I'm voting anyone who voted Palmar because Palmar is a good player and shouldn't be lynched day1 and anyone trying to vote him looks bad. I prefer you because you're afraid of Palmar who can correctly read you." In other words, he assumes Artanis isn't a good player to keep alive day1 even if he was more active than Palmar. Then, he uses bad information that even he said we shouldn't be using to scumread a town player over a weak argument that the player was "afraid". LOL + Show Spoiler + On April 20 2015 01:17 sicklucker wrote: My estimate to flip scum Holyflare 60% The fact he didnt die hes highe rthen most. Also he should know the meta and is ignoring gb GlowingBear 90% Under the reasonable pretense that palmer was the nk (if im wrong 1 shot veg needs to claim) Oatsmaster 35% Vivax 30% Spamming sounds about right VayneAuthority 2%? Whatever the odds of their being a gf and him being it WaveofShadow 10% Seems to have good reads and knows wtf is going on onegu 20% loafery Not enough data! Koshi 40% Didnt try in his last game could just be abusing that fact lol. Vote him. He is mafia. | ||
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On April 20 2015 11:02 WaveofShadow wrote: A glaring mistake in your case just skimming through btw SL never scumreads artanis at all so I think your whole second point kinda falls apart I dunno if I should feel bad because the case isn't awful but I just don't feel convinced I think all of SL's inconsistencies have been pointed out before but for some reason I don't find myself caring about them too much and clearly neither does anyone else I truly don't know why SL you should explain some of this stuff at some point I posted the quote he scumreads Artanis... He voted Artanis until the very last second... He assumed Artanis was killed by vigi because Artanis was scummy... | ||
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On April 20 2015 10:56 WaveofShadow wrote: ![]() I lol'ed | ||
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On April 20 2015 10:39 Holyflare wrote: tl dr gb is mafia No, you're Mafia. You should know I'm town at this point | ||
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Artanis is also a good player, why lynching him day1 and palmar not? I didn't understand your response to number 4 You said the obvious in point five but the problem is that you admit not having a claim leads NK to bad information, and yet you use it to your own purposes nonetheless. Why? | ||
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On April 20 2015 11:52 sicklucker wrote: of course I scumread artanis why do you think I almost lynched him? I think its more logical the veg agreed with me then shot an afk palmer. If im scum why dont I kill artanis? im pretty sure I could have hammered him too. I could kill two good town players instead of a good town player + ls. Remember the vote was close like 3-3 and I UNVOTED artanis. Why? I explain I looked at his pregame excuse to limit his filter. I figured I would give him another day. No offense to ls but hes never finding mafia. I have played like 10 games with ls and hes never found and identified one mafia. He just sheeps. Artanis might find mafia and I might townread him. Ls wont that was my logic to switch That doesn't make sense. You scumread Artanis but decide to vote LS because he isn't equally valuable town asset as Artanis is. Then you ask your strongest scumread to vote for your weakest scumread, he does that and you VOTE WITH HIM WHILE STILL BELIEVING HE IS MAFIA AND YOU THINK VIGI AGREED WITH YOU AFTER THIS?????? | ||
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On April 20 2015 11:56 sicklucker wrote: im open to the idea artanis could have been the veggie shot. But I think artanis was scummy and palmer was not. So logically I would think artanis is the veggie shot? you following? I meant "was", not "wasn't", sorry | ||
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Wtf are you talking about You had Artanis, HF and Palmar as main lynches Artanis was the main lynch Yet you decided to keep him alive to hammer LS Why? | ||
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On April 20 2015 23:03 Koshi wrote: No. I read it and it is just a plynch. Which might have changed when artanis came back around EoD. Which is when Artanis became null. So GB his case doesn't make any fucking sense if you take into fact that people can change their reads. Anyway. Sicklucker is a townhero. Never scumread. Saying someone most likely to be Mafia because he doesn't post much isn't policy, it is scumreading. Your attempt to discredit my whole case on a misconstruction on SL read is awful. You should also know how scummy it is to get behind a policy lynch in a way to be non-committal | ||
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On April 21 2015 00:59 Koshi wrote: No it isn't. You people are not scumreading me. You think I am mafia based on meta and on policy lynch. Something between it. There is nothing mafia about my play. I recon it was the same for SL. Till Artanis played during EoD and he made him a nullread. I could be wrong. But then you got to proof it. You say how SL his scumread on Artanis evolved is scummy. Proof me why. Because I don't see it. I see a scumread that got updated. My case is pretty clear revealing his scumread. If you can't see it it means you are bashing on a case you haven't even read properly. Your lack of contribution is scummy. Your disinterest in the game is scummy. So it's not policy after all. They are weak arguments, but they are scum arguments, not policy. I'm just waiting HF to comment on my case/answering me | ||
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On April 21 2015 01:11 Holyflare wrote: much wow it's like you don't even read the pages of this game and just ask random questions that mean nothing! I literally posted the answer to this last page No, you're lynching me because I am an easy target so you don't need to bus Koshi after spending the whole day talking about lynching him. You're mafia. SL - HF - Koshi | ||
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On April 21 2015 01:17 Holyflare wrote: i'm not mafia, i haven't done anything that makes me mafia, i'm just lazy and town ![]() your case wasn't very good at all because sl does all of that stuff all game and the ongoing game where he died the first thing he did was try and get vig to claim all day and he did the same here but the difference is here is that you're trying to push it as scummy when in fact it's just what sl does also i've many a time got my scum read to try and side with me, just look at void or w/e where I asked my scum read to switch to hts so basically your case is bad and it's the only thing you've pushed all game and you've dropped the majority of talking about anything else Trying to get vigi to claim is a thing Assuming he shouldn't work with bad information and work with bad information to scumread a town that is an easy target is a completely different thing, and you're ignoring it. Asking your primary scumread to vote your secondary scumread is weird, it should be the opposite. Artanis was ALREADY getting lynched. The context here tells it all. The thing is: you were also a wagon. He simply secured LS was lynched so you certainly survives day1. That's why he asked active Artanis to vote LS. He secured the mislynch that way. No townie would jump on you out of the blue and get you lynched. You reasons here shows that you're also criticising a case you haven't read properly. Or you're just trying to discredit me, because I've brought a lot of points and you're just focusing in one. You're Mafia with SL | ||
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If I sheep you and you're right, you're dead night1 if you're town. If I aheep you and you're wrong and survive until day2, I have more time to evaluate you + I can repeat day1 strategy (if you lynch a Mafia, you're dead night2, if you mislynch and survive, you're most likely Mafia) I don't even have to sheep you now because you're trying to mislynch a townie, so you're probably Mafia + you gameplay is scummy. It makes perfect sense a team of you SL and Koshi. SL doesn't even care for Koshi in early day1 | ||
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On April 21 2015 01:26 Holyflare wrote: and if you say "oh you posted a shit list!" I will absolutely 100% chase you down till the ends of the earth for being completely shit and using the same thing you called out on d1 and doing nothing else ^ I'll pre-empt your post for you and answer it saying that it was a list of people that didn't give a shit about the lynch and was for my own sake because mafia love to afk lynches and give no reasons to not be on wagons or divert themselves off town flips Like fucking palmar and Koshi I don't care for your list, I care for your overall gameplay. You AFK most of the time on day1, comes by when you're a target, manages to get people on LS and SL secures your survival. Night time you say nothing insightful You spend day2 talking about a policy lynch on Koshi then suddenly switches to me because you have weak reasons to scumread me That's why you're scum. As SL, you're pushing your own Mafia agenda, instead of actually trying to fucking solve the game. | ||
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I'M CALLING HIM MAFIA FOR SAYING HE SHOULDN'T WORK WITH BAD INFORMATION, BUT INSTANTLY USING THAT BAD INFORMATION AS BASIS TO HIS WHOLE PLAY AFTER NIGHT1 OMG HF | ||
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On April 21 2015 01:41 Vivax wrote: GB where's your vote On SL HF is probably Mafia with him buy I have a stronger scumread on SL Did you read my case? If so, why do you think HF is a better lynch than SL? | ||
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On April 21 2015 01:44 Holyflare wrote: I haven't read your case and I don't care to. SL just plays badly. LOL nvm, I'm voting you ##Vote: HF You're not even reading your MAIN SCUMREAD FILTER | ||
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I clearly demonstrated how SL's thought process can only culminate on a scumread on Artanis It's useless to discuss this with you since (I) you haven't read it properly and (ii) you're Mafia with him and is obviously trying to discredit my case to save him. | ||
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On April 21 2015 02:05 Holyflare wrote: Like you use all this surface level shit and none of it is content right now. How am I discrediting vivax's stance on me? Quote the relevant posts where I discredit him that isn't using logic. It's impossible. Everything he's said about me I've countered with my thought process and logic behind it. Yet you just ignore everything and write it off in a terrible false summation. Being AFK and suddenly voting on Koshi doesn't make him Mafia. If that was so, sicklucker would be right on Artanis, as you said it was his motive. The same goes for palmar who AFK voted Artanis. So your logic is based on a wrong basis. And you use this to call Vivax Mafia, trying to convince people he is scummy. By doing this, you bring suspicions on his motivation for voting you. This is discrediting. And I will again refer to the case. If sicklucker didn't scumread Artanis, he wouldn't arrive to the conclusion he was shot by the vigi. Simply as that. | ||
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On April 21 2015 03:38 Holyflare wrote: everyone is really, and GB HAS AFK'D AGAIN PLZ LYNCH I'M SORRY I'M NOT ACTIVE ALL DAY LONG, WHAT A CRIME!!!! I slept. Just woke up. Catching up | ||
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![]() I'm currently reading your posts on page 56 And HF, you're accusing me of being Mafia for being AFK Tell me why being AFK is Mafia trait. | ||
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On April 21 2015 02:24 Holyflare wrote: To elaborate, Vivax's is mafia because when he accuses me of being scummy and discrediting people who don't vote for me he quotes post that aren't scummy in the slightest and don't needlessly discredit, they quite blatently point out scummy actions. Not being scummy in the slightest is your OPINION and not a FACT. Having an opinion on a post doesn't make Vivax mafia, even if you think it is wrong This could just be awful vivax. However, vivax then says that I'm only pushing easy mislynches, such as LS and Koshi. He then tries to make my play fit a scummy narrative. He said I only lynched LS based on meta, which really isn't very true at all AND YOU SHOULD KNOW THIS BECAUSE YOU 10/10'D MY CASE YOU SCUMMY FUCK. Being a meta case or not, you went to an easy target. This is so true that your case was very good, and LS was a townie. So, easy targetThen he says i'm pushing an easy mislynch in koshi WHO HE IS FUCKING VOTING.This is a good point and Vivax needs to address to this, although I can see it coming from town perspective. But before explaining, I need Vivax addressing to this If my pushes are only on scummy lurkers and he is doing the same thing but 10x worse then why does that make me mafia if he is town? He is scumreading you for going against easy targets (as me), not going against scummy lurkers, so this is wrong Surely I should be capable of doing the same thing as him? Regardless, none of my play is focused on pushing scummy lurkers. I made cases on people I want to lynch. I made a case on LS, I made a case on you GB, I wanted to policy Koshi because I wasn't sure what alignment he was and was being a douche. None of this makes me mafia, it in fact shows i'm exploring possibilities and making cases which makes me town. Vivax doesn't comment on any of these cases he just afk's (he has 0 pages made since d1) and returns to vote for the person he said I was pushing as a free lurker mislynch (koshi) Again, good point and Vivax needs to address to this. He asks questions that aren't relevant in crunch time, such as him asking "why did you change your posting style this game" instead of replying to the case about LS at all during the eod. Today he has only asked me questions that I actually answered just 1 page before he asked the question. Twice. His read on LS was "because he was honest" and then just afk'd and let the lynch happen without giving any shits while he just voted palmar (who is a scummy free lurker mislynch lolollol hypocrite). Basically vivax is writing me into a mafia narrative that he is exceptionally guilty of and ignores everything I write and just calls me mafia while he afk's and you follow him. | ||
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On April 21 2015 05:08 Holyflare wrote: koshi wanna lynch wave? :D WoS is never get lynched today | ||
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On April 21 2015 05:22 Holyflare wrote: nice you posted a useless post where you say exactly what i said 1. the sentence literally after what you wrote says: "this could just be awful vivax" 2. easy targets is such a bull shit reason for someone being mafia when they put cases on those people that are thought out like you can't pick and choose who is mafia in a game so what if they were all easy mislynch people???? people pushing them must be mafia!!!! 3. how the fuck are you an easy target?? which people in this game aren't easy targets then????????? THREAD SENTIMENT IS AGAINST ME ALL THREAD SENTIMENT GOING AGAINST ME IS BEING IN AN EASY TARGET TRY TO LYNCH SICKLUCKER WHO IS SCUMMY AS HELL JUST TRY IT YOU WON'T BE ABLE THREAD SENTIMENT ISN'T AGAINST HIM + PEOPLE SIMPLY CAN'T SEE HOW HE IS MAFIA YOU'RE FUCKING LETTING HIM LIVE BECAUSE HE IS BAD EVERY GAME, WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS EXCUSE???? | ||
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I want to lynch SL first If impossible, I want to lynch HF If impossible, I'll lynch Koshi I will lynch no one else. I'm pretty certain this is the scum team + Koshi is intentionally trying to piss WoS off, reinforcing the argument that Koshi is mafia with them. | ||
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YOU COULDN'T EVEN EXPLAIN WHY BEING AFK MAKES ME MAFIA AND YOU FUCKING DIDN'T PROPERLY READ MY CASE ON SL, A CASE THAT EVEN HIIIIIIIMSEEEEEELF COULDN'T CLEAR HIS THOUGHT PROCESS WTF AAAAAAAAAAARGH HOW CAN YOU PEOPLE NOT SEE IT?????????????? | ||
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On April 21 2015 05:48 Holyflare wrote: yeh gb's list is like 3 townies HOW DO YOU FUCKING KNOW SL AND KOSHI ARE TOWN LIKE THAT????? YOU WERE FUCKING VOTING KOSHI ALL DAY LONG FFS | ||
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It doesn't even make sense to policy lynch someone you have a slight townread over any other lurker you have as null. You backing off of Koshi just proves my theory. PLEASE, TOWN, PLEASE SEE THIS, THIS IS SO FUCKING OBVIOUS!!! | ||
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On April 21 2015 07:42 Koshi wrote: stfu GB. You are terrible. How the fuck do you know SL and I are town and that HF knows that? Fucking so bad. Fuck you Koshi, you know exactly what I meant | ||
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On April 21 2015 07:45 Holyflare wrote: it does make sense and if you read the thread vayne asked me the very same question You know this is a shitty answer | ||
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On April 21 2015 07:46 sicklucker wrote: Can we just vote gb its more funny when hes mafia here. I dont even care if im wrong I want to be right. Im thinking hf is kind of townie latey. Hes just doing random things i dont think he would do as mafia LOL LOOK AT THIS SHIT FUCK THIS GAME FUCKING MISLYNCH ME AND FUCKING LOSE THE GAME THIS TOWN DESERVES TO LOSE THIS SHIT | ||
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On April 21 2015 07:47 Holyflare wrote: why is it a shitty answer? of all the afkers to policy lynch i'd choose the one actively being a dick and potentially playing anti win con any day, ESPECIALLY if I think he is a bit towny IT MAKES NO SENSE TO ACTIVELY VOTE FOR LYNCHING A TOWN READ THAN BACK OFF CONVINIENTLY AT EOD WHEN KOSHI DIDN'T MAKE SHIT FOR YOU TO FLIP LIKE THAT AND FORM A WAGON ON A TOWNIE UNLESS YOU'RE FUCKING MAFIA WITH KOSHI | ||
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Fucking mislynch me and fucking LOSE THIS SHIT Do as you please, I don't give a fuck anymore | ||
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Why would SL, who has the same reads as you, but has not even 1/10 of your leadership, dies instead of you? | ||
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I can easily see scum HF shooting SL to scumread me even further I was wrong on SL but I stand firmly regarding HF and Koshi Koshi even admits HF may be scum but votes Onegu out of spite. HF spent a huge part of day2 wanting to policy lynch Koshi, hard push me as a scumread and wastes thread's day discussing me just to land his vote on AFK oats, keeps me alive to continue confusing town day3. It's ridiculous. And I raged because this game is ridiculous. You're obvious scum holyflare, and most of the thread was scumreading me regardless of vote count, not even putting any thought on what I or other people were talking. Koshi limited himself to call me pathetic. Onegu comes from time to time to say he was roleblocked and say thread is dead. Vivax disappeared after half of day2. VA is being VA. Loafery also comes from time to time and disappears. The vigi still didn't claim in fucking MYLO. And I am obviously town being scumread by obvious Mafia/lazy lurkers. I simply don't care anymore. You're Mafia and I'm voting you. If town isn't dumb enough, they will follow me. If they are, they will follow you, and this shitty game will end. | ||
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On April 23 2015 05:36 WaveofShadow wrote: You forgot about me GB. Where do I fit into all that? I've already told I think you're town for the way you're approaching the game. | ||
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On April 23 2015 08:13 Koshi wrote: GB isn't mafia. But w.e. You probably are. Good on you pushing mafia agenda. Like always. Game can end though. ##unvote ##vote: GlowingBear So Koshi unvotre HF and vote count states I'm the leading wagon Then host corrects vote count, Koshi scumreads HF and puts me as leading wagon again If town can't see you're Mafia together after this, I rest my case | ||
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On April 23 2015 05:46 Holyflare wrote: gb nobody called you scum other than me or sl, that's quite evident by the fact only me and sl were voting you, it's silly that you also mention my switch to oats since i did that with 0 seconds to go for a joke and it's retarded that i would kill the only other person that would give me vote power to lynch you i didn't spend a huge part of the day wanting to policy koshi, i left it there as a default while i actually made cases and scum read other people and then i switched to you with more than 24 hours to go in the cycle, I hardly see the problem with me keeping up a shitty policy but then ditching it for actual scum reads you didn't even scum read me at all, you can see the moment that you start to scum read me and it stems from me saying i didn't read your case because it was crap, which evidently i was right and it was crap but it was an unnatural part to start scum reading me and then you kept piling on reasons like you decided to scum read me and then point out scummy things instead of finding the scummy things and then calling me scum it's ass backwards and makes you mafia you thought the scum team was me/sl/koshi but you didn't bat an eyelid when oats was being lynched and you didn't try and actively divert the lynch to any of your scum reads other than your bitch fest at the end of the day, it's quite evident your scum read doesn't even hold water on me because when i talk about vivax you say "oh yes tht point makes sense i'd like to hear it" but then ignore vivax for the rest of the game, it's like you don't even give a shit about him you are just stuck in a portal of your reads and nothing more and never budge or update them you never even comment on this loafery guy who keeps adapting his scum read on me for shit reasons, you never comment on stuff like oats or anything like that and now you are just whining with the most illogical reasons ever Lol no? How was I the leading wagon yesterday, then? If Koshi was just default, why vehemently saying KOSHI IS THE LYNCH TODAY when other people wanted to lynch ME, after you ALREADY scumread me? Why didn't YOU try to put oats lynch away to the guys you thought were scummy? I am irritated with his game since people doesn't want to play/think. I still am. I want to lynch you today, or lose the game. I really don't care. | ||
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On April 23 2015 23:55 Holyflare wrote: stop being totally shit, if you're town and a mislynch and i'm town then you fucked up big time by not being able to get out of your tunnel and pushing other people i don't actually think you have a single scum read that's actually scum (sl/me/koshi all town) Koshi's claim doesn't make sense and I thought loafery was the vigi somehow. Even if you considered I'm tunneled on a town, second wagon is also town so GG anyway. I won't put effort in a game people aren't caring, specially if Koshi's claim is real. | ||
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On April 24 2015 00:55 Holyflare wrote: as if you could ever think loafery would be the vigilante when all he has done this entire game is talk about how scummy i am and then artanis/palmar gets shot yeh gb... yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh He sheeped me most of the time. I thought he shot Palmar because I have scumread Palmar day 1, which would mean he had a townread on me since day1, which would explain him sheeping me. What is this trend of yours to call me terrible? You also called town people scum the whole game | ||
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On April 24 2015 01:04 Holyflare wrote: because regardless of if my READS have been terrible i'm actually here in mylo trying to rally some kind of game winning result while you run off crying boo hoo game unwinnable and koshi is being a fucking tit and afking and being scummy all game on purpose because he can't be fucked to play the game and rely on a vig claim instead and vivax is perma afk and wants a no lynch because he hasn't had time and loafery hasn't changed his read on me the entire game when i've proven him wrong at every single turning point and wave is wave and probably mafia at the end of all this so i call you a terrible player because rather than win a game of mafia and play competitively you'd rather cry like a sissy bitch in a corner that you can't do anything it's pathetic Fair enough. I'm writing down my thought process | ||
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On April 24 2015 01:00 Holyflare wrote: gb run me through all of your thought processes this game in some nice succinct paragraph and how the game has played out for you and what you were trying to achieve with your actions and posts, help us evaluate! Day1 I thought we should lynch scummy lurkers because they wouldn't provide enough information for us to work it out later. I wanted to lynch loafery that time, while I scumread WoS for, from all the scummy lurkers, he wanted to lynch you, which I found suspicious since you're an important asset and a player that usually drops a lot of information that we can work out with + if you do nothing in later game and you're still alive it means you're probably Mafia. The method I said on day1 was to sheep you to evaluate this theory. I scumread palmar because he came to the thread, claimed a role and AFK voted Artanis whom I've read as slightly town. I slightly scumread sicklucker out of tone reading, made an early case on him to get thread talking. Palmar claiming a role an AFKing felt like you claiming wanderer in fanfic crossover. It looked like he was needing time and did that on purpose. Vivax felt pretty townie for his approach to the game on day1, giving traction to thread discussion, inquisitive and contributuve. His play surely fell day2 but his actions were in harmony with my reads, so I don't think that his inactivity tells much about his alignment. Then I started realising a lot of inconsistencies on sicklucker, specially when he wifomed night kills, said that he shouldn't work on bad information and IMMEDIATELY started working on bad information to consequentially scumread me. Then I filter dived him to further evaluate my read and I found a lot more inconsistencies in his gameplay which wasn't usual SL wifom, but intentional misconstruction to serve his own agenda. While doing that, I was scumread by you and you hard defended SL and disregarded my case on him without even taking a proper look or attacking point by point, which felt like a try to discredit it to save a teammate. Then, as you started voting Koshi but just said it was a policy lynch and giving up on a policy lynch felt like you were trying to distance yourself from Koshi who has been acting scummy-asshole all game long. By the way, I started townreading WoS when he tried to further evaluate his reads, going back to filters and posting his POV's. The effort + the flip on his read on me felt townie because if you're town and he is Mafia he could simply agree with lynching me instead of reevaluating his read and not wanting to lynch me. Then SL died and it made no sense to me that he died on your place, since you have much more leadership power than anyone in the thread and you both had the same reads. You being alive was weird for that + since I've made unflipped association I could easily see you killing him to frame me on MYLO. Koshi's team with you was reinforced by the fact that after the host correction he voted me, putting me as leading wagon, while scumreadig YOU. His excuse of "let's end this game" is off since the fault on the game being shit is partially in his shoulders. A boring excuse to vote me and win the game but distance himself from you by scumreading you nonetheless, in case you are lynched here. I also forgot to say that your hypocrisy of calling me Mafia for AFKing when I need to do stuff when you AFKed almost the entire day1 was another reason to scumread you. | ||
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On April 24 2015 01:43 Holyflare wrote: I didn't purely scum read you for afking it was getting annoying when you continued to afk and return and say you were catching up but then say nothing relevant at all and afk again, I just flat out afk'd which was completely different. I did actually go through all of the points on your case and you just used some other wifom to further push sl which looked pretty scummy to me since I actually town read SL and you were pushing him (especially when he did the exact same thing as last game). I don't think wave's pov stuff looked very good at all but I can see how you would when he reached a conclusion that said you were town. To me it looks like he made huge jumps in logic that didn't make any sense and looked like TMI. I can't help not dying and I certainly wouldn't kill SL who would be the one towny that my scum team would have needed to push for your mislynch. I also didn't even use NK wifom to push you whereas you used it to push me. I think your post just now is actually not so bad and I wouldn't mind voting someone else today. Even going so far as a no lynch. The thing is that I always play with my phone, so I come to the thread and read posts, give some input and get back to doing stuff. I'm doing a lot of things lately, so I come by as often as I can. I understand the thing you're saying about NK, but have in mind you've been scumreading me throghout mostly the whole game and yes, you've pushed me, but you ended up not screaming to the thread how Mafia I was in a way that you felt comfortable in lynching someone else and wasting day3 with a discussion on me. Your interactions with Koshi were also odd. So, it's not NK wifom mostly. The NK theory reinforces this read, but isn't the sole basis to scumread you | ||
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I'm town and you're losing it | ||
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On April 24 2015 02:13 Holyflare wrote: My actions with koshi are NOT odd. I wanted to policy lynch him for being a complete arse. I want to policy lynch arsey lurkers over just lurkers. I don't care if they look a bit towny because they are actively being dicks and legitimately playing against their win con even more so. It's that simple. However, the him being town bit continuously nagged at me so I started actually forming mafia reads on people instead. It just so happens that I was correct in my town reads of koshi and sl. I did continuously outline why you were mafia to the thread AND vivax. Really repeatedly, I have 20 page filter so it's not all about afking on koshi is it? That's the most ridiculous statement i've ever heard. The NK theory does not support any theory at all because NK's are complete wifom. If it supported any theory it would be that you are mafia but i'm not even pushing that and i'm town so really your "oh yeh nk's totally reinforce that!" is complete bull shit. If i'm town and you're town then that makes onegu/wave/va/vivax/loafery mafia. If i'm tunneled onto you and town who do you think mafia would kill so that I continue my tunnel on you? It's actually just flat out retarded that you take wifom and come to the most backwards conclusion i've seen from it. Not to mention i've already achieved my win con if you are town and i am mafia by having 4 votes on you yet i've spent the past 2 cycles actively trying to get people to participate so i can make a more informed read when i just wouldn't have to at all since if you town read wave he's on loafery and my entire mafia team could just switch to whoever the fuck we want. You don't think any of these things through and it's mylo. I find it hard to believe you really are thinking about the game when you aren't looking at all the logical conclusions that could happen from a scenario. You are picking the ones that best suit your agenda and it's scummy as fuck. They ARE odd because Koshi did NOTHING townie for you to decide not lynching him anymore. That's the thing here. It felt forced. Yes, you were pushing other people, but when proposed to switch to me you said YOU WERE GOING TO LYNCH KOSHI AND NO ONE ELSE. You haven't already achieved your wincon if you're Mafia because you ARE THE SECOND WAGON so I would EXPECT you to be doing what you're doing as both alignments, because (1) if you're town you wouldn't let game end easily on you, but (2) if you are the second wagon you HAVE to further establish innocence as mafia to guarantee your target is lynched, not you, and I know you're very capable of faking this shit of "oh, I'm reevaluating GB". Are you really? Because all I see is you, AGAIN, blaming me for AFKing. I don't even know how can you trust so much koshi's claim when there are a lot of failures in his thought. But IF we are both town and we take out our townreads from the list, the scumteam would be Onegu/VA and loafery, if he isn't the real vigi. Do you really think this is the fucking scumteam? | ||
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On April 24 2015 05:21 Vivax wrote: And if loafery is kush he's like super mafia. How the hell dos this guy know about HF so much? Loafery is obviously liancourt | ||
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On April 24 2015 05:30 Holyflare wrote: How on earth gb can push the angle that I'm mafia for not wanting to lynch the vigilante but pushing him as policy and ditching it ia beyond me. No words can describe the idiocy. It wasn't what I was saying Anyway, I'm going to Judas Priest concert GG | ||
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When did you evolve from annoyingly-emotional-bulbasaur to awful-kush-esque-venosaur? | ||
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On April 24 2015 07:00 Holyflare wrote: Gb you should vote no lynch just in case For what? For having the game going on and on with players that aren't even playing? How will a no lynch help in any way? You think I'm scum. Wave is voting me, and he thought I was town. We are the most active people in thread. And I'm AFKing a lot. Why would we no lynch if only is three are playing the game and you guys already know who you're gonna lynch tomorrow? | ||
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I'll vote Vivax. He suddenly voted me out of no reason. I am his fucking townread and he is doing NOTHING to save me, just letting the game end. If he is truly Mafia, and you were pushing him, and you are willing to lynch him, I guess you have no problems with that, right? ##Vote: Vivax | ||
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On April 24 2015 07:29 Holyflare wrote: You think that's going to work 30 mins before day end in a game of afkers? We follow vig vote or no lynch. Since you don't want to vote yourself you vote no lynch just in case. All you are trying to do is spread suspicion on things townies had to have done (vote with the vig) and draw votes off you which is mafia agenda. Any town up for vote here votes no lynch. HAHAHAHA you not wanting to vote for you scumread is ridiculous Why would I even bother trying to save this... | ||
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If you think I'm town and two people outside my wagon are Mafia, there is one voting me. You really don't see scum comfortable with this? You really believe no lynch would come from a town??? It's way easier to do shenannies as Mafia with less townies in the game. Mafia would LOVE a no lynch at this point. Lol. Ridiculous. | ||
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On April 29 2015 10:28 sicklucker wrote: Gb was the one who picked the palmer kill. No surprise there Yeah, because I was afraid of him. Sick reads | ||
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Edit: and Vivax did a very good job looking townie while he was active | ||
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