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On April 15 2015 05:56 Trfel wrote: And I don't care, because I don't like your reasons for not lynching The Shining? He simply isn't doing anything that I find impressive. He's been inconsistent for how much he blames his availability and his replacing into the game, to the level where I feel that he's trying to survive instead of trying to catch scum. Even if he's scum, the case against him doesn't establish that at all. Lynching him today is real stupid. | ||
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On April 15 2015 05:58 Breshke wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote Prp I don't like this. | ||
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I don't have time for full on analysis, but his d2 seems worse the more I think about it. | ||
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On April 15 2015 06:06 Bourneq wrote: Well prplhz has been defending dwarf the entire game, do you think he would do that knowing he would be very likely to be lynched anyway? I give prpl a lot of town points for that. Yes, it is possible. It's much easier as scum to town read knowing they're town than it is to fabricate a scum case on someone you know is town. Can't know shit until he comes back though, if he does at all. | ||
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If prpl is town, he gets lynched and everything I've done all game is for naught making me a relatively easy mislynch with how divided we are. If prpl is scum, he gets lynched and gets massive town cred for hammering him. If this is the case that would mean that the third member thinks prpl is doomed anyway which has it's own implications. Or they're both town and we're royally fucked, but I doubt any of these are happening. | ||
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Not sure on prpl/think he's town, let's talk it out and reach a consensus. Have a case I neglected due to tunneling prpl? I'll go over it and give my thoughts. | ||
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On April 15 2015 07:02 prplhz wrote: what happened You tell me | ||
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On April 15 2015 09:17 prplhz wrote: no wait, i don't actually give a shit. i'm so pissed at this open setup can't even fake claim cop tomorrow. Wat | ||
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Say stuff and I'll listen. | ||
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Unless something drastically changes, prpl needs to die. I've mentioned that enough. I can't shake this feeling about Trfel. His prpl townread throughout his worthless d2 feels wrong. Nothing to worry about today in any case. Probably nothing at all, really. If he's alive real late game, I'd worry, but not before that. Breshke I'm starting to think is mafia more and more. I had some suspicions d1, but wasn't sure. D2 I have some problems with. He voted me for the ambiguous 4 reads which is fine. Then he asked me who my strongest read was on when it was obviously Prpl. How he uses my lack of a response, claims he needs to actually analyse my play(http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/480171-newbie-student-mafia-vii?page=71#1420) and then says he's giving me a pass. Voted Shining for not delivering on stuff as a "third placeholder." Then he is ok with voting me or Shining before finally sheeping my case on Prpl when he said he hadn't looked at him. If you browse his filter, it looks like he's scum hunting, but only ever on people not really lynch options while his actual lynch options are all due to non-indicative stuff. There is no logic or clear train of thought for his actions from town that I can see. Additionally, look at his reasoning for voting prpl post lynch. Now he thinks Shining is scum, Rso is scum and on TBD so Prpl is more likely to be Shining's partner than TBD. That's the most ass-backwards reasoning for lynching someone you were leaning town on d1. Especially given he spent most of his day trying to prod me, how can he not even look into my case? I don't buy it. Complete WIFOM, but I'm starting to think that them giving up on Prpl and him trying to get cred from the bus is actually viable based on how Prpl has been since and Bresh's reasoning. Got a bit before we need to deal with that though. AFK Work | ||
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On April 16 2015 01:11 Trfel wrote: I kind of think we should shoot LoneMeow. Fecalfeast tends to be lazy, so if we shoot LoneMeow, there won't be any vote counts, so it will be extremely easy to mess with town in shenanigan votes. Implying it isn't easy already  | ||
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On April 16 2015 03:23 Trfel wrote: Okay, fine, his Day 2 was weaker. But I don't care? He played an extremely solid Day 1. Read through his filter again, there's an explanation for everything he's been doing. Can you give me something that stands out? I'm still leaning scum but I wouldn't put it past me to miss something. Also, what do you make of the end of d2 on him? | ||
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Inactivity kills towns more than anything else. D1 everyone who was possibly getting lynched (plot, dwarf, and myself) were not active. That meant that scum just had to be moderately active and they escape a lot of scrutiny. This happened all 3 days essentially with different people. Additionally, although scum hunting is obviously important establishing yourself as solid town is just as important in some cases. Although my reads were ass, my d2 posting took me out of the lynch discussion and allowed the town to focus on checking other people. Prpl did a great job of this d1 but I was so caught up on his inactivity d2, I never realized it. Had that clicked and didn't distract half the town from investigating others, we would have had significantly more information and basically confirmed towns moving forward making it much easier to narrow down the pool. Regarding PRs, although I don't understand Shining's reason for shooting me, it was probably a good time to shoot considering he probably would be mislynched d3 if not. However, when you are a vigilante unless there is some obvious reason you generally want to take out a lurker you aren't sure will start contributing more. If I were the vig for example, I probably would have shot one of Breshke/Bourneq/Tube since if I lived and prpl never returned he would easily be lynchable or I can get a better read if he does return, while they were mia a lot of d2 and seemed harder to read. Going into d3 after the vig, that left town at 5-3 MYLO. This is where town misused the PRs imo. Scum has no reason to claim Vig unless one of them is getting lynched and they need save themselves. So by fake claiming, you're forcing the real vig to cc or town might not believe him when he does later. In a lylo/mylo situation you want as many confirmed players as you can get so a no-lynch without claiming would be preferable as it buys you time and doesn't dictate who scum needs to shoot. Once the game gets late, it would be even more suspicious for Rso to be alive. Obviously it wouldn't have mattered for this game, but it might in others. | ||
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