EPTOn March 25 2015 13:49 Trfel wrote:
Eden, am I right to trust you in this game?
Eden, am I right to trust you in this game?
Ya. Why wouldn't you be?
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Eden1892
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Ya. Why wouldn't you be? | ||
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1. Are Artanis and Superbia both town? If yes goto 3. If no goto 2. 2. Are Fecalfeast and ritoky both mafia? If yes lynch either one. If no goto 3. 3. Lynch Slam | ||
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Artanis/Fecalfeast/ritoky Superbia/Fecalfeast/ritoky Artanis/Fecalfeast/Alakaslam Artanis/ritoky/Alakaslam Superbia/Fecalfeast/Alakaslam Superbia/ritoky/Alakaslam Alakaslam: 67% chance scum Fecalfeast: 67% chance scum ritoky: 67% chance scum Superbia: 50% chance scum Artanis: 50% chance scum Lynch should be among Slam/FF/ritoky. Slam easily scummiest of the 3. | ||
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On March 25 2015 14:31 sicklucker wrote: Theres also the fact rstoulins claim was weird and she coulda been vet. Either way I think its enough reason to not kill super today plus he seems to be trying now correct slam is best lynch | ||
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you can say it if you think he's mafia and you think he got jailed carrying kp but it makes 0 sense to say it didn't help town when he bought an ML | ||
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On March 25 2015 14:39 Trfel wrote: Sorry, can I get answers to these questions? Links to previous posts are fine. But I'd like fairly concise explanations. Why is Alakaslam scum? Why is Onegu town? Why is ritoky town? (given how he crushed town as scum in Down Under 2) slam is scum thru POE and not making even the slightest iota of effort to solve the game onegu is town thru the sequence of mason claim + rsoultin jailing him + hf being shot. the most plausible explanation of this sequence, by far, is that scum believed they were masons together and tried to shoot both of them ritoky is town thru... thru... well idk i have him in my POE. LOL but he's trying which is better than can be said for slam | ||
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On March 25 2015 14:57 ritoky wrote: isn't SL town for shooting a mafia in the face? and idk shit about the night actions, but if it did something, then cool, but dunno if it counterbalances the confusion caused. so some temporary conclusion that didn't really hurt our scumhunting efforts vs buying an ML ez trade ez life | ||
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and trfel... how is slam interesting this game? his 'evolving' read on holyflare is omgus, then dropping it when no one wanted to do anything with it. other than that he's done naught but excuse his inactivity, post off-topic and make bizarro world martyr posts about killing him so we can figure out we're wrong like you have a really really low bar set for interesting if slam's play this game is interesting lmao | ||
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(a) i tried to make it as conservative as possible so as to maximize its odds of success; more stringent requirements for not being lynched = lower likelihood of false positive among the not-lynch group (b) you really haven't done shit since your big case on ls that i can recall off the top of my head | ||
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but you're not helping me solve the game by asking me to lynch you (unless you're mafia) | ||
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this game suddenly got hard and i don't like it. :/ | ||
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So let's look... On March 19 2015 23:35 LightningStrike wrote: Town: Exo: He seemed to be his normal self some questions but I waiting for him to case someone at some point in the game after playing with him in Newbie LX. rsoultin: She seems to happy to roll Mafia this game I would think she would be Mad at rolling Mafia again esp with me in the game but she seems to be having fun with her posts so far (She rolled Mafia in Horns of Africa and Titanic) Also she died way to early in JOAT because of mean HTS wanting to get rid of her so she wouldn't figure HTS out in JOAT  She also my whisper so listen to her on me.Holyflare: Some decent questions and plays similar to how he did in Horns when I played with him plus answering a meta point to me about Mafia!Rayn is more useless than Town!Rayn but idk what Rayn post would indicate that he's useless tbh :| Vivax: Vivax is Vivax and that means he just crazy but I think he's trying hard this game and more likely Town than Mafia upon the fact he's trying so hard but he's crazy so meh. Trfel: I finding his entrance odd but who the hell claims Mafia Day 1 except for Damdred in Imperial lol..... He got some decent questions and also can't wait for him to case someone even if he case the hosts (For those who didn't check Mini Mafia Down Under 2 he cased the host and it was funny as hell 10/10 would want him to case a host again). Bill Murray: Asking some decent questions and my first time playing with him and seems to engage with his Mafiaread of Eden and noticing some stuff I don't think others did at the time. Eden1892: Had some trolling stuff early on which I kinda expect from him as Town compared to Mafia with some decent questioning regarding me to rsoultin. Also his filter is much bigger than his filter as Mafia from experience playing with him. Superbia: Much more serious already and already down to business which I think makes him more Town than Mafia knowing in Campus was kinda trolling in Day 1 and was useless in Imperial. Breshke: Short filter but some of his questions ande thoughts to be something I would think he would do as Town more so than Mafia esp his little thing on sicklucker. Null: Damdred: Seems to be a his townie self but I remember he looked so townie yet he was Mafia in Titanic so I need another Day of him being alive to make a good read. Artanis: As I said earlier he looked so Townie in Imperial yet he was Mafia but he also had a bad game as Mafia in Student VI so idk I need some more time to figure him out prob by Day 2 since I know he's a player by reputation being one of the best players in TL Mafia. raynpelikoneet: Seems much angrier than normal idk if it's truely alignment indicative about him but HF says he's useless as Mafia compared to Town but his filter seems Palmar centric with some side tracks O_o Palmar: Trolling a good amount I don't think it's alignment indicative for him since he loves to troll as both alignment from my experience with him cept for Metal Mini when he was super serious. Alakaslam: Slam is Slam and I can't really read him and I know he's the true king of WIFOM as either alignemnt so meh. Onegu: Very short filter and not really doing much but I remember him being kinda meh as town compared to Mafia but I need some more posts from him. sicklucker: I can't read him anymore after Linux when he was Mafia and he always bounces off the walls as either alignment and did make some incorrect statements about self meta but he done that as either alignment. I think he becomes obvious Mafia at Day 2/3 area from my experience with him and seeing him playing as Mafia so I waiting for Day 2 to make my read on him. Fecalfeast: He not raging about his role with time and idk if it's alignment indicative for him from my experience with him being town :| Sorry for the long wait for my post I was updating it while checking the thread so I wouldn't be so lost and added in info while making the post! (not mentioned: Toadesstern, VisceraEyes) Part of me wants to just take the plunge, say that LS tr'd none of his teammates and go from there. That'll put Superbia and Breshke in town pile and... leave me with six targets (Damdred, Artanis, Alakaslam, ritoky, Onegu, Fecalfeast) for six lynches. Huh. I guess I'll start with those guys and see if I feel that LS was unduly suspicious of them relative to their posting and thread sentiment about them at the time. That seems like the best place to look for LS tmi'ing his partners mafia. | ||
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this guy is 100% working with extra information | ||
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On March 19 2015 23:41 Vivax wrote: How is that list town. It's void of scumreads, it's like a big "DONT HURT ME PLS". big ups to this guy for immediately noticing the issue btw | ||
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On March 21 2015 08:00 Half the Sky wrote: Day 1: Current Vote Count Bill Murray (8): Holyflare, Eden1892, rsoultin, Superbia, Vivax, Breshke, raynpelikoneet, Palmar Vivax (7): Artanis[Xp], LightningStrike, sicklucker, Toadesstern, Trfel, ExO_, Damdred LightningStrike (3): Bill Murray, FecalFeast, Onegu Toadesstern (1): VisceraEyes sicklucker (1): Alakaslam D1 vote count with my best guessed at alignment filled in. If your name doesn't have a color, you're not lock clear town to me right now. I have a few townleans obviously but as I said before, I'm trying to be more conservative with my town circle to minimize my chance of having false positives in that town circle. I've already talked about why I think Superbia's vote was really shady. He spends most of d1 pinging mafia!LS for inactivity without actually interacting with LS or trying to question him to develop a read. He ends up narrowing down his desired lynch to LS or sl. He also comes down firmly on the side of not wanting to lynch a vig claimant. But then with the opportunity to get either of his desired lynches as alternative wagons to one of the vig claimants (LS and sl both were tied with BM at 3 with a half-hour to go and a lot of people online), Superbia flips his vote to BM while grumbling to HF about BM flipping town. This doesn't necessarily make Superbia mafia, as I've done this several times before as town, but it's inevitably because I either doubted my read at the last second or got frustrated that no one was listening to me, and importantly, it comes after pushing my read hard to begin with. Superbia basically claimed that he didn't really doubt his read, but that he felt no one would listen to him; but he also never made a strong effort to be listened to. Superbia, if you were reasonably confident that one of LS or sl were mafia, why did you not ever try to convince people to vote for either of them when you had the opening? I'm gonna go through the rest of the players whose names aren't colored up there and work them out in a similar manner. | ||
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but I guess I'd have to actually read it all the way through instead of skimming excerpts, deciding I liked the points being made and moving on to something else | ||
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On March 26 2015 00:56 Vivax wrote: I think the fact he answers to Artanis about VE but not his own case is telling on its own. After I write such a massive thing I see no reason not to talk about it and instead put my emphasis on VE whom I'm not reading either way. Agreed, and here's some more stuff: On March 21 2015 01:53 Fecalfeast wrote: So I think I'm changing my read from <LS is scum and rso is bad> to <Rso is scum and LS lives in her pocket> On March 21 2015 03:45 Fecalfeast wrote: I kinda still think LS is mafiaaaa On March 21 2015 05:27 Fecalfeast wrote: I'm going to side with the counter claimer on this one. I don't see mafia toad going for the 1 for 1 here On March 21 2015 05:57 Fecalfeast wrote: ls is mafia with toad, the plan is they are going to get vivax lynched and when he flips vig play the "oh no there must be 2 vigs" game On March 21 2015 06:16 Fecalfeast wrote: We should lynch LS This is all of FF's mentions of LS of note after the non-questioning non-session Vivax is talking about, with a free prize inside (FF's evolution on the vigs). It's like FF completely forgets about his own case on LS. And if we thought Superbia was shady for not pushing a read on LS when it mattered then holy shit Fecalfeast is shady. Guy has a monster case that turns out to be right on LS. For whatever reason he first decides Toad must be town, then flips to Toad being mafia with LS. Fecalfeast, why did you change your mind so suddenly on Toad vs Vivax? But ok, let's assume there's a legit reason for that. Fine. So FF thinks LS and Toad are on a team together. The thread is torn between the sentiment that one of the vigs needs to be lynched and the sentiment that they should be left alive until night actions to figure it out. At the time of FF's post, Vivax is the lead wagon with 7 votes, Toad is 2nd with 4, LS is 3rd with 3. Why isn't FF posting his case again or engaging anybody to convince them to vote LS? | ||
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Then FF basically drops off the face of the Earth after n1. ~7pg filter through d1, which is a pretty reasonable posting rate for a game this big and high-traffic. ~3pg filter after that, which is basically not even playing the game. | ||
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