EPTWhats your opinion on what happened in thread's page 89?
Can you give me your read too Eden?
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Whats your opinion on what happened in thread's page 89? Can you give me your read too Eden? | ||
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On March 02 2015 09:35 sicklucker wrote: Was anyone roleblocked today? Its really important I was not. | ||
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On March 02 2015 18:35 The Shining wrote: Would scum goon Artanis vote scum Godfather FF to save himself? I toyed with that possibility. It explains his unwillingness to defend himself and shift off his wagon to save himself. I certainly can't follow why Artanis and FF can't be mafia toguether. | ||
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1)-Artanis started D2 knowing he was going to be lynched already. He had Eden, Snarfs, Tormented, me and lately SL on him. No way he could escape. He already mentioned that in his "I have flu" post. So in this scenary he can only have 1 possible switch town would believe: "tormented", if we, during D2 arrived to believe Artanis was town, Tormented was "best" target for a switch that would save him. So, in this same "flu" post (and his last post) he reminds us this. 2) FeacalFeast comes into the game: - If he is mafia, he finds Artanis afk in "flu", Node afked early therefore without (maybe) leaving him a plan to follow. Then we got Kelser claiming he will /afk vote FF (just for being a replacement) and Yamato claiming he will /afk SL (for saying he had been roleblocked). So if FF is mafia, is very easy for him to chose to buss Artanis, he hasnt a better plan, so he starts building it by following Artanis scum reads... jumping on Snarfs filter (why??), jumping in Tormented's filter (why? because Artanis asked him he says - Artanis never asked him to do this - and since he cant build a case by himself to "save" Artanis he decides to "buss" Artanis without giving any reason of his vote until today and refusing to build an analysis. - If he is town his excuse is that he is "lazy". Why does he bring us Artanis last post and tries me to play around it? (his excuse is that "it was unintentionally") So Prob + FF scenary is totally plausible IF Node played a good mafia, enough to look as towny for us. FF still havent given any reason for me took him as town. Looking forward to get more from him though. Prob+Kel, Kel+FF, are also valid scenaries. (I could include you Shining easyly in my paranoias too). | ||
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His line of thinking is very towny but his reads were: 1 -"Snarf is mafia" 2 - "Deamdred you look scum" 3 - "Tronak you look scum" (because of my "summary" post which was pointing at Snarfs-Artanis-Yamato) 4 - Talking to Eden "And if you'd be willing to call Tronak scum based on what we've seen so far, be my guest. I'm not. My hope is that he'll see the pressure and step up to the plate, but if he doesn't, well, my vote can certainly be changed." 5 - On February 25 2015 11:16 Node wrote: Snarfs has nothing to lose by "concluding" that I'm town if he is mafia, so my vote remains unchanged. But I like to see actual analysis, and more of it on other people is likely to sway me. With Damdred and Snarfs being town and knowing I am town. I have to change my mind completly about Node and read him as scum before going afk (26hours after game started if not mistaken). So again, I'm pretty sure Fecalfeast is now more scummy than ever for me. | ||
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On March 02 2015 07:07 Fecalfeast wrote: -I refused to give you a detailed analysis on his filter as you have been really getting on my nerves this game. I even told you to ask me questions which you did not do. On March 01 2015 04:36 Tronak wrote: been inflexible? sorry then.. I had to push you to do things as the one you just did: your analysis about Tormented. Which I liked a lot gotta say. What happens if we lynch Artanis being the player that has tunneled Tormented whole game? I this a legit question FF or your "lazyness" made you skip it "unintentionally" too? Guys, common, I want to read Prob too, but this guy is so mafia than he even is a bad player as mafia. Lets lynch him! | ||
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On March 03 2015 01:20 _Tormented_ wrote: ##Kill Probulous I have a really hard time buying that both prob AND ff are scum. I hope you tried at least. I just read Prob's filter and damm weird/scummy on D2 but up to D1 EOD looks townier than Node to me. Btw... ##vote is the correct format for your ##kill | ||
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Gotta leave now. I'll be back in 2-3 hours. | ||
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How come you can't defend your self if you wanna be town? You could start by answering last question I asked you: On March 02 2015 23:35 Tronak wrote: And just catched another of his lies on page 89: Is this a legit question FF or your "lazyness" made you skip it "unintentionally" too? Guys, common, I want to read Prob too, but this guy is so mafia than he even is a bad player as mafia. Lets lynch him! Now about Probulous, I didnt want to make this work for you but since are sooooo lazy: On March 01 2015 09:14 Tronak wrote: EDIT: At this moment I have to save Snarfs (Artanis' 2nd target) = And I chose 5 KSC/probs/sl/FF/Shining THESE are still somehow in my paranoia, gotta think further though. On March 02 2015 04:50 Tronak wrote: SL>Prob>Shining would be my next targets to check, maybe Yamato to help solving tonights dilema. On March 02 2015 06:33 Tronak wrote: Well he looked town but Prob actually made 3 big errors in only 2 days: 1) Case on Damdred -> he cancelled later. However if not mistaken Yamato and specially Artanis introduced Tormentors case, while case on Damdred was still open (should check for accurity). Since Artanis turned mafia, I dont think mafia would introduce 2 different false cases at same time (would they?). So Prob should be town at this moment. 2) Pushing up your wrong case/wagon on Wave -> not alignment indicative as long Snarfs remains as town in my eyes. But it was a good place to jump in as mafia in the town-town scenary. 3) Afk vote on FF yesterday 20 minutes later of Artanis "I have flu" post. He left a very good case behind before doing this though (could this have been last bullet to save Mafia Artanis?). On March 02 2015 09:18 Tronak wrote: Hi Onegu, catch up as fast as you, I'll be looking forward to get ur reads. My Scums: FF My scummy: you, SL, Shining, Prob My townie: the rest atm Hitting my pillow now, read you guys tomorrow. On March 02 2015 21:20 Tronak wrote: So Prob + FF scenary is totally plausible IF Node played a good mafia, enough to look as towny for us. FF still havent given any reason for me took him as town. Looking forward to get more from him though. Prob+Kel, Kel+FF, are also valid scenaries. (I could include you Shining easyly in my paranoias too). Do you need more reads from me on Prob? This is my scum ranking atm: FF: ***** Prob + Onegu: *** Shining/SL: * Now you may want to defend your self or give us real inputs since you refused to do any real read and just sheep Eden/Yamato and spit lies all around. | ||
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Ok, so Probulous will be lynched, not going to disagree on that unless he shows up and reverses by himself the situation. I gonna leave my vote on FF for the record though since I am still convinced he is mafia, he could be mafia with Artanis and he can be mafia with Prob. And for the record again: I wont be here at the end of N3 (last hour), and first 22hours of D4 (got a business trip that will keep me pretty busy and without proper internet connection most of the time). | ||
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Fecal Feast Flames while Failing Figuring Feasible Flipsides Look, I'll rather be looked as toxic before giving up analyzing on what I think are plausible options. You gave up since the moment you started playing, you started lying, gave up explaining your votes and you yesterday gave up defending yourself. I hope Probs turns mafia, otherwise I'll have not many options other than push again for lynching you on D4 (quite boring tbh). | ||
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On March 04 2015 03:28 yamato77 wrote: even if he's town, lynching the modkill is a good play here Yeah agree, we dont lose anything, just a possible scum fleeing. | ||
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-Cheers on the lynch! Another one bites the dust! -Good play Tormented. 1) Prob "tried" to save Artanys pointing at FF with Kelser/Onegu's tunnel help, in fact Kelser's tunnel (something like "oh you are a replacement you gonna be lynched!!") on FF came before Prob's case on FF. 2) FF you are town to my eyes as long Onegu remains guilty, however I wanna understand why you have never actively defended your self. Should check for accurity, no time now, if you defended from Prob's case on you, you actually tried with me, making so many mistakes... 3) Shining and SL become a "bit" more towny to my eyes with the lynch, so same should apply. 4) Eden Godfather is an option. 5) Yamato/Tormented must remain town in my brain or it would explote. TLDR: By now I would ##vote Kelser/Onegu. | ||
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On March 04 2015 10:18 sicklucker wrote: So to explain to the newer players. Since roleblock is missing that means mafia did it on the person they nked. Because if you roleblock and kill a person then the veteran powers do not work. So thats how I know its a vet/cop setup I dont understand can you please explain that again? | ||
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On March 04 2015 10:50 Tronak wrote: I dont understand can you please explain that again? Oh you calling it on an hypothetical situation that cant happen anymore?. | ||
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1) Give any possible scum feedback in Kelser/Onegu's filters. 2) SL & Shining same for them as long i have enough time. -FF and Eden, I will ignore while Kelser/Onegu is scum. 3) Prepare my business trip before vanishing from game for about 23h starting from 1h before N3 ends. Before doing that and to not ignore the posts above this one: -Thanks FF for explaining the roleblock thing better than SL could by himself. I understand now. -No I'm not mafia, if you or anyone need my explanation of why I switched from tunneling pushing Artanis into FF and back to Artanis you will find it in pages 4,5 and 6 of my filter (Shining pushed me about it at the end of D2). | ||
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HtS: 1)-Her first read of the game = Prob is probable town. On February 24 2015 10:18 Half the Sky wrote: In any case, as far as Prob being serious...I don't know him. I don't know whether people played more serious back in the day, assuming he's another old timer. He's serious but he's not stiff. I don't sense any discomfort in his posts. He seems assertive/comfortable from what I read of his posts so he's probably town. 2) Tone reads about Artanis and Eden being "laid back". 3) Last post: Yamato is scummy On February 24 2015 11:07 Half the Sky wrote: Yamato is coming off elusive so far. He seems scummy. Not answering the question. The disappearance, the reappearance. And then these last few posts. Elusive. 4) Then she AFK and is replaced by Kelser. TLDR "HtS": with me assuming Yamato is town and Prob being mafia = she can perfectly be scum. I'll continue with Kelser | ||
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