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The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
March 06 2015 00:28 GMT
#2061
##unvote

Yay, doobie at work. Goodbye rage, hello scum, I'm coming for you. Disregard what I said about not wanting to put the extra effort in, I'd never forgive myself.

Welp, I think there's a shot Onegu is town and scum is setting up to mislynch Onegu and have me mislynched for the win.

Of course, this is all moot if Onegu is in fact scum but last time I was in this situation, it didn't play out that way so I'm assuming it'll go the same way here.

Case incoming.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
March 06 2015 00:33 GMT
#2062
The Shining has been warned for language/behavior. Please remember to treat this game and your fellow players respectfully and have fun!
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 06 2015 01:02 GMT
#2063
Vote Count


Onegu (4): _Tormented_, sicklucker, Fecalfeast, Yamato77

Not Voting (3): Onegu, Tronak, The Shining

Currently, Onegu is set to be lynched. Day 4 ends in at 00:00 GMT (+00:00).

Remember, voting is Mandatory. You may NOT abstain.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
March 06 2015 01:03 GMT
#2064
Seems like shining is panicking. Anyway ill start working on the case on and off now, but I am using a I Pad so it will take a while as in 8 or so hours as this won't be the only thing I am doing.
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The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
March 06 2015 01:33 GMT
#2065
Yep I am. Cuz if you flip town, town is screwed, and I'm the only one seeing that possibility. Deja vu.

Ggs.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
March 06 2015 01:38 GMT
#2066
On March 06 2015 09:33 Blazinghand wrote:
The Shining has been warned for language/behavior. Please remember to treat this game and your fellow players respectfully and have fun!


Aye. I log you all and I'm sorry.

No, log does not = love but my typo made me lol so it stays.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 06 2015 01:48 GMT
#2067
On March 04 2015 03:32 yamato77 wrote:
So, people think shining is town, I'm still unconvinced.

I've been reasonably sure that FF/Onegu/Tronak were town but we'll reconsider in the night phase.

No reason to lose because I overlooked someone.

On March 05 2015 08:28 Eden1892 wrote:
if i die, lynch onegu and sicklucker in order and win

On March 04 2015 08:27 yamato77 wrote:
No one listen to Eden, he's throwing.



On March 05 2015 19:18 yamato77 wrote:
well onegu

if you're mafia I would just concede

##Vote: Onegu



If onegu is town i think it's yamato. No resistance to an onegu lynch? wut?
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sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 06 2015 01:57 GMT
#2068
Yamato did you completely drop your scum read on me? I dont see your train of thought
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 06 2015 01:57 GMT
#2069
Im just curious because yamato has had me in the poe lists all game but now Im not mentioned on who he wants to lynch
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 06 2015 02:04 GMT
#2070
On February 26 2015 08:58 Blazinghand wrote:
Vote Count


WaveofShadow (7): Eden1892, Probulous, Damdred, _Tormented_, Tronak, snarfs, The Shining
Snarfs (5): Node, Yamato77, WaveofShadow, Artanis[Xp], KelsierSC
KelsierSC (1): sicklucker

Not Voting (0):

Currently, WaveofShadow is set to be lynched. Day 1 ends in at 00:00 GMT (+00:00).

Remember, voting is Mandatory. You may NOT abstain.

On March 01 2015 08:33 rsoultin wrote:
Vote Count


Artanis[Xp] (6): Eden1892, _Tormented_, Snarfs, sicklucker, Yamato77, Tronak
fecalfeast (3): KelsierSC, Probulous, The Shining
_Tormented_ (1): Artanis[Xp]
KelsierSC (1): fecalfeast

Not Voting (0):

Currently, Artanis[Xp] is set to be lynched. Day 1 ends in at 00:00 GMT (+00:00).

Remember, voting is Mandatory. You may NOT abstain.

On March 04 2015 08:48 rsoultin wrote:
Vote Count


Probulous (7): Fecalfeast, The Shining, Eden1892, _Tormented_, Yamato77, sicklucker, Onegu
Fecalfeast (2): Tronak, Probulous

Not Voting (0):

Currently, Probulous is set to be lynched. Day 3 ends in at 00:00 GMT (+00:00).

Remember, voting is Mandatory. You may NOT abstain.


kelsier and artanis voted for the same person D1, kelsier and probulous voted together D2, D3 onegu votes probulous but the only vote not on probulous is tronak.

Meanwhile yamato voted both mafia. I take back my last post and will look for into the votes in a bit
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
March 06 2015 02:21 GMT
#2071
Fwiw, the case I hinted at is on Tronak.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 06 2015 02:22 GMT
#2072
On March 06 2015 11:21 The Shining wrote:
Fwiw, the case I hinted at is on Tronak.

dope
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Tronak
Profile Joined February 2015
Spain217 Posts
March 06 2015 05:52 GMT
#2073
Good morning! In before my child wakes up and shining throws him self in the rope.

First:
##vote Onegu

Second:
On March 06 2015 10:33 The Shining wrote:
Yep I am. Cuz if you flip town, town is screwed, and I'm the only one seeing that possibility. Deja vu.
Ggs.



We gonna have a big problem if Onegu flips town, I can see that too. In that case, I am going to look at SL (because I have never looked at him deep yet and because Eden asked us to do that), and you Shining (you push me and the are cases opened on you), and reconsider FF (FF lied us 3 times -unintentionally he claims and I at this moment believe). You should know that already.

Last:
If you need explanations of why I voted FF you should look in my filter or re-read thread pages 89, 92, 93 (I still remember those).

Gotta leave for a while now.
LeaVe & LeT DiE
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 06 2015 06:00 GMT
#2074
hm.

##unvote
Writer@WriterYamato
Tronak
Profile Joined February 2015
Spain217 Posts
March 06 2015 06:52 GMT
#2075
On March 05 2015 12:07 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 09:19 sicklucker wrote:
Also by poe I only like see two people it can be and this is by far the better case. Just concede?



Who is the other? Better be shining


Interested in this question too, who is the other red for you sicklucker?
LeaVe & LeT DiE
Tronak
Profile Joined February 2015
Spain217 Posts
March 06 2015 07:28 GMT
#2076
On March 06 2015 08:35 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 19:26 Onegu wrote:
And don't worry you will get the case before EOD I promise. Other than that I don't have any reads for you other than Yamato obv town. And tormented uber townie also.


You mean our Cop is uber townie? Wtf, why would you bother reading an unCCd blue role? Or did you miss that and that's why you killed Eden instead of Tormented?


Since I was not here and couldnt do it before... a critical reflection about night shot on Eden.

Assuming these 2 things:
- Tormented is Cop as he claimed. I got not a single reason reason to not believe him by the way...
- Godfather is alive so Cop is useless.

My thoughts and what Godfather should have in his head too:
1) Tormented was not better target than a clear town any vanilla townie. It was clearly better target though than Veteran (shot wasted).
2) Eden feared death the night before and last night, so he shouldn't be Veteran.

So 2 options:
a) Mafia knows there is a Veteran. But since Eden is fearing death it shouldn't be him.
b) Mafia knows there is a Doctor. However town is assuming Tormented gonna be shot so if doctor exists he may be protecting Tormented. (b) is less probable than a) since no one doctor dodged yet and Damdred+Snarfs+Eden were all good townies to protect)

Conclusions:
-Eden was a better target than Tormented for mafia. We lost an experienced player seen by all as town (as happened with Damdred and Snarfs), however mafia closed the possibility of Eden Godfather that Tormented had opened and me was considering as a remote but plausible option.
-Now Eden was pointing at Onegu and SL (and pointed to Yamato before going for Prob the day before). May be wifom in here?
LeaVe & LeT DiE
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 06 2015 08:01 GMT
#2077
On March 06 2015 15:00 yamato77 wrote:
hm.

##unvote

can you tell me why you changed your mind on onegu?
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
March 06 2015 09:51 GMT
#2078
First thing: they way he/she/it comes into the thread is how I used to start most my mafia games, the excuse and then very shortly after the defense about expecting a policy lynch on themself.

Second it is so close to end of day and they use their time to filter Prob and Damdred who aren't even up for lynch. And notice how they give prob a town read? Why filter these to players when you are close to end of day and neither are up for the lynch?

On February 26 2015 09:23 The Shining wrote:
See, thank you, Kels. This is the 2nd game in a row I've been resigned and detached for whatever reasons. Last game, not 1 but 2 D2 replacements almost took me out of the game. This time, its my late start.

Want to see my help? Let's help, then. I want to see final vote, too, and I'll get through some more filters before I leave work tonight


And here I don't like how they give excuses again for not being interested in the game. Yes people get frustrated and yes people get bored, but this comes out of nowhere. It kinda looks like a response to something but usually when people get frustrated there is a build up that you can see, there is no build up here just bam a excuse.

Then there is a quick I was wrong about wave I wonder if I was wrong about Damdy and Prob, but then no follow up whatsoever, then Damdy is the night kill and prob flips scum. Never any follow up.

On February 27 2015 08:10 The Shining wrote:
Actually I take back what I said about the inactivity/lurking thing regarding SL. He's the odd one out.

Node AFKs without explanation. Want to see why
Artanis posted about being lazy once, havent seen him after. Could really just be lazy or waiting for day.
SL continues to post nothings showing he's here but...doing...nothing lol.



On February 27 2015 09:44 The Shining wrote:
Ugh yuck I'm never a fan of these things. Thist post isn't to say I don't believe Artanis could be scum, as I can see it and I've had suspicions myself, but guys. Unless its super early pressure, the last thing we should be doing right now is setting an auto lynch at the beginning of Day Phase. If you sure he's scum, let him prove it or prove who he isn't over the next 48 hours.

Tormented's instavote right after Eden looks like a way to cruise D2 on auto pilot btw


Then here are 2 quick but not strong defenses of Artanis. The second one one is really interesting in how it waffles, this isn't to say I don't believe Artanis could be scum is really something I don't see said by town at all. Into give him time to defend himself.


On February 27 2015 11:06 The Shining wrote:
Light or dark beer? Cheers mate.

Its not hard to figure me out at all. I'll even do it for you. As scum, I'm a lurker and like to sheep as easily and quickly as possible. As town, I have a slow game due to my hatred for D1 and not having learned my way around it. It picks up after voting analysis(which I learned from Damdred ironically) and after players start being inconsistent or not contributive. This is why I am willing to vote Artanis. I just won't do so right away, especially with 3 votes already on him. It won't be me but I'm interested in seeing who, if anyone, will defend him.

I do like those points on Artanis, though meta isn't one of my biggest strengths. As a newbie, have to ask, how do I verify that he was in fact not mislynched in any of those games? In my newbie games here, diving 1 or 2 old games was easy but how do you find all of those?

And welp, there is the possibility Node afks D2 as well and gets modkilled. I only mind that if he flips town.



First I don't like posts like this even though everyone does them. The part about Artanis in the middle here is interesting, they are going to let their vote to to Artanis for meta reasons they aren't sure about? And this goes to the meta point they made on themselves going to sheep lol.

Then in the list post gives prob another town read. Gives Artanis a scum read but a few posts later would lynch Yamato over him when Yamato was only leaning scum.


On February 28 2015 05:38 The Shining wrote:
Tronak, I felt that way last night. It can be frustrating being the only one in the thread at times.

I should clarify that I have had my fair share of weak cases, as well. Weak cases are not alignment indicative. However, the way you seemed to not want to commit to it is what worries me. A townie can have a weak case and gut feeling and still commit to it.

And meh. I am a passionate player. I would be more worried if I was emotionally detached. It is my play style, not sure what to do with that.

And I meant you have no vote up on me. I like that you're sticking with your scumread in Artanis, at least, but I wanted to see his defense before I made a final call on him. I've already said I'm leaning more towards Yamato than Artanis. But your response about Artanis does nothing to disprove my thought that your case on me is a soft push to see if my wagon could gain traction. You don't have to nevessarily vote me right away to get me mislynched if enough people believe your case.

And since when does thinking someone is scummy but wanting to see their defense because too many people jumping in the wagon doesnt feel right and not voting = jumping on the wagon?

And you just told a guy who started late and had to read a ton of pages to catch up(that were pretty spammy, mind you) to not spam. I'll post what I want. I referred to a past game because I'm a newbie and like I said, ppl here have hardons for meta. It was a town game for me. And it isn't really League of Legends spam if it is also the same post that explains why I'm leaving thread and unable to answer questions immediately afterwards.

Last thing. I should have updated my list post that I was asked for, even though I don't like list posts? To change one read on SL to town? Why? It's clearly in my filter that I did so.


Big post that says very little. What I do want to point out is how many times they call themselves newbie, or just out of newbies. Newer scum do this all the time, they are paranoid someone will pick up on their play being scummy they say I'm new, I just out of newbies to cover their tracks. Shining does this all the time.


On March 01 2015 07:17 The Shining wrote:
OK, Tronak. The haste with which you switched your vote was just odd to me and the tone with which you just defended yourself seems...well, overly defensive. Did me telling you to read the thread that one time get to you that much? I mean, I did say in my last post that you were sheeping Prob onto FF. But you said you wouldn't move off of Artanis unless he showed he was town. You moved off of him so I needed to see if you thought Artanis was town or not. You moving off the wagon you claim to have started because he hasn't offered us anything to a guy who is here and doing something before EoD doesn't line up. And it might just be wording but "easily" being willing to switch off of your main wagon to another just doesn't fit the tone you've had regarding Artanis.

That being said, I really am thinking we should give Artanis a chance here. There are quite a few players who had much more content and posts D1 as opposed to now. Artanis, yamato, Snarfs, Kelsier are names that come to mind as driving forces D1 and almost non existent D2.

And if that is alignment indicative, I'm really bad at this game because there are four names there.



Again a defense of Armani's who earlier they had scummy, when you post someone is scummy but then give multiple defenses of them especially when they flip scum just doesn't make sense. And again the last sentence here I am bad. Excuses for their play.


Then again Artanis could be scummy but he deserves another 72 hours. It just doesn't make sense.

Also note Prob also jumped on the FF wagon it was the only opposite wagon from Artanis. So the only way to save Artanis is to jump on FF which both other scum did.

Then goes from town reads on Prob to he could be scum but is hard to read with no real reasons.

I haven't read keiserSC reason for being on the same wagons as shining which is why I am fine being lynched first, but shining is your final scum.

Yamato I'm counting on you to make it happen after my flip


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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
March 06 2015 09:53 GMT
#2079
Btw there is no way in hell Yamato is final scum. Scum Yamato doesn't play the game let alone lead bussing wagons. It doesn't happen. FF you will not ever vote Yamato
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 06 2015 10:12 GMT
#2080
On March 06 2015 18:53 Onegu wrote:
Btw there is no way in hell Yamato is final scum. Scum Yamato doesn't play the game let alone lead bussing wagons. It doesn't happen. FF you will not ever vote Yamato

I already said i take that back in my vote colouring post
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