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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
##Vote: Tronak No way I'm getting my case out before EoD. I don't expect anyone to sheep me either. But I really don't think that Onegu case comes from scum. And he's got 4 votes without mine, I could hammer him to save myself but he seems about as worried as I do about being lynched. And I'm not worried at all lol lynching me helps town get rid of lylo lynchbait, since the two wagons are both town IMO. | ||
Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
On March 07 2015 08:17 The Shining wrote: Yeah. ##Vote: Tronak No way I'm getting my case out before EoD. I don't expect anyone to sheep me either. But I really don't think that Onegu case comes from scum. And he's got 4 votes without mine, I could hammer him to save myself but he seems about as worried as I do about being lynched. And I'm not worried at all lol lynching me helps town get rid of lylo lynchbait, since the two wagons are both town IMO. post what you have lol wtf | ||
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_Tormented_
United States157 Posts
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Tronak
Spain217 Posts
I at least put inputs behind my reasonings... and answer to anybodys questions. Now we got Onegus hardly answering questions... SL ignoring everyone, Shining making no-case on me, god! 48h ago I had FF as my best scum read but at least he "plays". Knowing shining gonna be on me, I would rather vote him tbh... | ||
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Tronak
Spain217 Posts
On March 07 2015 08:21 _Tormented_ wrote: If Onegu Conglomeration turns up town. Tomorrow it should be between Shining and Tronak. Btw it was you asking for a Conglomeration. I made best case I could. Shining what do you think of Onegus case on you? | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25557 Posts
Vote Count Onegu (4): _Tormented_, sicklucker, Fecalfeast, Tronak The Shining (2): Yamato77, Onegu Tronak (1): The Shining Not Voting (0): Currently, Onegu is set to be lynched. Day 4 ends in at 00:00 GMT (+00:00). Remember, voting is Mandatory. You may NOT abstain. | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
D1 opening: Really odd. Introduces himself as a newbie which is okay but then offers up an agreement to scumProb's stance on RNG lynch. Normally, its okay to be against an RNG lynch but as he says himself, that debate was over. So all he is doing is echoing thread sentiment and parroting scumProbulous. On February 24 2015 19:32 Tronak wrote: Hi all You answered your self, I’m the newest newbie. Since its impossible for me to recognize ANY of the names I would have expected you would introduce yourself before asking about the new. Your opening contributed to light up the game since it was followed by almost everyone, however I found very few real usefull information in presentations, so I leave it here, presentations are finished now I guess. Completly agree, but looks I am late again and this debate is over too. There are some interesting reads going on already, I keep reading posts and try to catch up to help with my thoughts. Then he follows with a kind of list/summary post that scum usually like to hide behind. Pressure Snarfs for being a vet and suggesting RNG. Lightly pressures scumArtanis for his opening but wants to hear more from him. Fees that scumProbulous "won the mini battle" against townDamdred. And everyone not mentioned in this post is town, which is odd because later in his filter I'm null and I don't think SL had posted by this point either. There at least 1-2 scum on this list, according to Tronak, the newbie. Probulous and Artanis are in this list. This could be a very early way to set yourself up if bussing is necessary later in the game. Especially as Godfather, since you won't be a red check. However, even listing these 2 early as possible scum, he waffles over the Artanis vote on and off and stays off the Probulous vote for FF. There is a lot more to this case but I figured getting something out before EoD might help town, in case votes swung my way while I posted this. | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
On February 25 2015 21:09 Tronak wrote: I could jump in this train since Yamato is still suspicious for me. I was hoping Yamato to answer my "summary" post and later reminder. Not sure if he didnt answer because: a) my points could harm him b) my arguments are so "noob" that not worth answering me. However I want also to jump in Yamatos & Sicklucker train and lynch Kelsier for filling 3 pages of rubish in a thread that was taking a good direction (deeper analysis were going on). About this, Eden what made you abandon your line of scum arguments on Kelsier? Just his case on sicklucker? You considered Yamato a better target? or any other thing I cant arrive to see? Finally, trying to follow up a bit the points I opened yesterday here: - My initial opinions about Scarfs-Artanis and Yamatos openings were weak as those who have talked about this (Scarfs – Artanis and guess Kelsier in his way) pointed out. I had a fast look on other Mafia games and checked that is true that game openings are full of trollish bullshit (guess no news for the veterans, they were for me though). -Also going to stop, for now, my soft push on Artanis despite he also keeps being suspicious in my newbie thinking since although I can now understand his case on Tormented, I don't buy it. All accussations on Tormented seem weak to me so far, this is a feeling not something very rational. However, I can’t abandon the idea that Artanis may want us to follow a dead line just based on how well timed his case came into the thread. After putting all this toguether, it looks like nobody gonna follow my point and my potential vote on Artanis would be futile, so I decided I’ll gather more and better information in the future. -My actual thinking on other people mentioned in my post: (i) Probulous: a good but unsuccessfull case on Damdred which he abandons, and in general short townie looking good interventions. Can’t read on him. (ii) Damdred: I am know convinced by his own defense and most players opinion that he must be town. -And to add my fresh honest thinkings about the rest: (i) WaveShadow: cant read him other than town so far. (ii) Node: I read him town as explained in previous posts. Scarfs case on him didnt make me change my mind. (iii) Scarfs: null about him with big fear of losing what I find so far a very usefull player for my learning. (iv) The Shining: ( empty ) (v) Eden: I like how she pushes, should be town. (vi) sicklucker: cant read him properly, I think if he keeps being so selective in his appeareances he could enter in my suspicious list easyly. Conclusion: I will wait some more before voting for Yamato or Kelsier based on what others may bring on the table unless something really new appears that makes me change completly my mind. A couple of things with this post. First off, its a change in tone and style compared to the rest of his filter. And, similar to how Onegu said I did this, Tronaks filter is full of posts where he calls himself newbie, noob, newb, constantly discounting his own opinion. At this point, he's still scum reading Artanis but sees the mislynch in Wave picking up traction(there is a post in his filter where he tries to pressure Wave beforehand too) so he stops pushing Artie. He understands the Tormented case from Artie but doesn't buy it. But he can't explain why Artie targeting Tormented just doesn't feel right. If he's scum, I'd imagine it is hard to explain away why your scum partner is hard pushing a green. He also says Probulous is townie looking but can't read him. | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
On March 07 2015 08:29 Tronak wrote: Btw it was you asking for a Conglomeration. I made best case I could. Shining what do you think of Onegus case on you? Wasn't planning on defending it unless I was leading in votes. I'm more concerned with Tronak than saving myself. | ||
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Tronak
Spain217 Posts
On March 07 2015 08:43 The Shining wrote: Tronak case. D1 opening: Really odd. Introduces himself as a newbie which is okay but then offers up an agreement to scumProb's stance on RNG lynch. Normally, its okay to be against an RNG lynch but as he says himself, that debate was over. So all he is doing is echoing thread sentiment and parroting scumProbulous. Then he follows with a kind of list/summary post that scum usually like to hide behind. Pressure Snarfs for being a vet and suggesting RNG. Lightly pressures scumArtanis for his opening but wants to hear more from him. Fees that scumProbulous "won the mini battle" against townDamdred. And everyone not mentioned in this post is town, which is odd because later in his filter I'm null and I don't think SL had posted by this point either. There at least 1-2 scum on this list, according to Tronak, the newbie. Probulous and Artanis are in this list. This could be a very early way to set yourself up if bussing is necessary later in the game. Especially as Godfather, since you won't be a red check. However, even listing these 2 early as possible scum, he waffles over the Artanis vote on and off and stays off the Probulous vote for FF. There is a lot more to this case but I figured getting something out before EoD might help town, in case votes swung my way while I posted this. Good you arrived to my filter's page number1, why didnt you brought that up during D1 or D2? My summary post was throwing out all my thinkings about the game. I thought i was helping tbh. It helped me to push and save Snarfs after his answers which on the later proved to be much more usefull than Wave was. It helped me to identify scum on Artanis and push him during N1 to the point of knowing he was mafia. It helped me push Yamato and get opinions from him and about him. As I said I voted FF "for the record" since I was convinced he could be mafia, Prob was clearly scummy as I already explained too. | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
On March 07 2015 08:26 Tronak wrote: Again the lynch Tronak thinguie as Prob tried? ... I at least put inputs behind my reasonings... and answer to anybodys questions. Now we got Onegus hardly answering questions... SL ignoring everyone, Shining making no-case on me, god! 48h ago I had FF as my best scum read but at least he "plays". Knowing shining gonna be on me, I would rather vote him tbh... This post is pretty scummy. Not voting me because he believes the Onegu case(which he's attacking while saying I'm scummy?) But instead would vote me because I'm on him. Paranoid? | ||
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Tronak
Spain217 Posts
On March 07 2015 08:53 The Shining wrote: Wasn't planning on defending it unless I was leading in votes. I'm more concerned with Tronak than saving myself. If you are town you should defend if you want to win. | ||
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Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
##vote: the shining Not buying it | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25557 Posts
Night 4 ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/SZhqzIJ.jpg) Onegu the Town Vanilla is dead! Night ends in 24 hours from this post at 00:00 GMT (+00:00). Get all actions into me and my cohost by that time. | ||
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Tronak
Spain217 Posts
On March 07 2015 08:57 The Shining wrote: This post is pretty scummy. Not voting me because he believes the Onegu case(which he's attacking while saying I'm scummy?) But instead would vote me because I'm on him. Paranoid? Read my filter tbh. My main targets been for last days Kelser>SL=shining>FF. I havent got game solving. | ||
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Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
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Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25557 Posts
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Tronak
Spain217 Posts
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