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Interesting comments in the Obs qt.
The criticisms of Rayn were justified imo from beginning to end...
Palmar, though mafia, was spot on with saying what he did.
I think that it was Geript who said an ML blame divided between the person who was lynched and the rest of town. Like if Rayn was right he failed to convince.
I honestly don't think I played very well at all, though some of my reads were right, except for Ritoky I got most of the critical ones wrong, Palmar no hunch until D3, although it felt weird to be sheeped by Damdred and him, I don't consider myself a sheepable player so that should have been a red flag but had no convincing argument.
I think I tried thinking too hard on the game and some people (eg FF) have scummier town games than I realised.
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On February 25 2015 23:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Palmar would you sheep my case on prplhz if you weren't Mafia?
I have no idea, I can't think like that.
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gg not much to say about this game. having 2 jailkeepers with the same name isnt necessarily a normal game imo, save that shit for more experimental games.
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yes, it's perfectly within the normal ruleset.
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as far as I can see there is nothing in the OP that indicates there may be multiple of a role, but maybe Im missing it. That's usually not the case with flavoured roles with actual names.
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flavour is always just flavour, and semi-open setups you can always have multiple of the same role.
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On February 26 2015 00:28 marvellosity wrote:
flavour is always just flavour, and semi-open setups you can always have multiple of the same role.
I understand that but you agree thats normally not the norm eh? I don't expect that going into a basic normal game. I've played in a lot of games on this site and thats the first time ive seen such a setup in a normal game.
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On February 26 2015 00:30 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2015 00:28 marvellosity wrote:
flavour is always just flavour, and semi-open setups you can always have multiple of the same role. I understand that but you agree thats normally not the norm eh? I don't expect that going into a basic normal game. I've played in a lot of games on this site and thats the first time ive seen such a setup in a normal game.
well now you know to expect that a semi-open setup may have the characteristics of a semi-open setup. .
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I always expect that, it was just poorly done in this particular case that's all. No mention of it at all in the OP im pretty sure.
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There doesn't have to be, that's why it's standard. That's what a semi-open setup is, you don't have to describe it.
"there can be mulitple of the same role"
"there will be a mafia team"
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well I disagree, it seems to be rare enough on this site that it should be explicitly stated that's all. I've never seen a specifically named character duplicated thats all I was saying. Anyway this is repetitive at this point
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now you know better! 
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On February 26 2015 00:27 VayneAuthority wrote:
as far as I can see there is nothing in the OP that indicates there may be multiple of a role, but maybe Im missing it. That's usually not the case with flavoured roles with actual names.
First few Titanics had that.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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This game not only proves how much third parties suck because I think town loses this game 9/10 times without the SK shooting all the mafia but also that some arguments in the townplay thread are complete and utter bullshit.
Rayn called out 6 people, among those 6 people were the whole mafia team, the SK and one townie. Still he was not only not listened to but he was mislynched instead.
Finding and calling out mafia means absolutely nothing without proving your own innocence. This is the ultimate proof.
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On February 25 2015 20:55 rsoultin wrote:
jat convinced me to shoot eden over confirmed town breshke the previous game. I just need to be more forceful about what I think the best play is I think.
lol what? I let you decide who to shoot because it was you who had to convince whoever was left. I just told you what factors to evaluate for your decision - I did not even give you any preference of my own.
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On February 26 2015 00:47 justanothertownie wrote:
This game not only proves how much third parties suck because I think town loses this game 9/10 times without the SK shooting all the mafia but also that some arguments in the townplay thread are complete and utter bullshit.
Rayn called out 6 people, among those 6 people were the whole mafia team, the SK and one townie. Still he was not only not listened to but he was mislynched instead.
Finding and calling out mafia means absolutely nothing without proving your own innocence. This is the ultimate proof.
The problem is that nobody actually read my post at least pre-flip.
I don't know how i can possibly prove my innocence other than making good cases on all mafia (i honestly think my cases on EVERY anti-town player were good). Like i posted in obs QT -- look at what Blazinghand for example said. Like meh... a townleader acting like that is just plain out idiotic.
People (besider robert) had just decided i was mafia because of some shit reason of me not being able to play and because "his reads changed without any reason" (not that anyone cared for once asking me "why".. There is no way i could have had done anything about being lynched regardless of what i say.
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On February 26 2015 00:47 justanothertownie wrote:
This game not only proves how much third parties suck because I think town loses this game 9/10 times without the SK shooting all the mafia but also that some arguments in the townplay thread are complete and utter bullshit.
Rayn called out 6 people, among those 6 people were the whole mafia team, the SK and one townie. Still he was not only not listened to but he was mislynched instead.
Finding and calling out mafia means absolutely nothing without proving your own innocence. This is the ultimate proof.
post this in that thread and hf!
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Oh, and also sentinel confirming BH and Eden as JKs has to be one of the poorest hosting decisions I have ever seen. If I was mafia in this game I would probably just ragequit immediately.
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On February 25 2015 20:14 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2015 12:34 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On February 16 2015 12:23 Town Puppy wrote:On February 16 2015 12:17 Breshke wrote:
TP why do you just shutdown BH's post about there being a possible 2 JK's. If you arn't up to date with the game why is it impossible for you to think if you are town BH could also be town.
I could understand this if you had been scum reading him beforehand but you haven't in fact you seemed to be happy to go along with his RNG lynch for a while so you couldn't have thought he was that scummy.
If BH had never claimed or had claimed a different role would you be scum reading him right now?
Because (1) Two jailers is really weird from a design standpoint IMO. I've never seen or heard of it. (2) Two jailers with the same name borders on bastard game. Read the flavor in the OP. the PRs are clearly individual characters. Why would there be flavor indicating the PRs are unique persons... In a game with multiple copies of one role? This being a Blackadder game is significant in relation to that dynamic. That's all I can say. Also, this is completely unacceptable. I considered just quitting the game at this point.
Yeah, didn't read this before posting. Respect for not quitting.
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On February 26 2015 00:57 justanothertownie wrote:
Oh, and also sentinel confirming BH and Eden as JKs has to be one of the poorest hosting decisions I have ever seen. If I was mafia in this game I would probably just ragequit immediately.
Agreed.
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