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On January 16 2015 05:45 GlowingBear wrote: I'm so scared of a team of Vivax and Artanis. It would explain the nightkill Although I really believe Chez was killed because of WIFOM. On January 15 2015 09:37 Vivax wrote: I don't care Kelsier cause tomorrow I'll just spam what Artanis and me wrote on the last page. And I'd be a fool to kill Artanis in this situation if I'm mafia, he's like my biggest bro right now, we posted the same scumteam within 5 minutes and more valuable than me pointing back to this post to prove I'm town cause he died. So GL choosing your NK. | ||
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Yeah Damdred I want to see you discuss this out with GB extensively. | ||
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So right now you're in my townpile but if you don't carry out an extensive debate with GB about this stuff I might have to reconsider one of my reads. | ||
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Page 17: On December 31 2014 16:26 sicklucker wrote: Ritoky dandred did not break doctors "policys" He didnt "lie" he made a joke. I think your taking this too literal and doctor was totally making a joke as well. I think you look terrible attacking someone for making a joke about a joke. Ritoky replies: @SL i think his policy is crap, he isn't maintaining it, and suddenly he has "joke" exemptions. furthermore i think he is a hypocrite and uninterested in finding scum. Page 20: On December 31 2014 17:40 sicklucker wrote: Dude I was mafia in final 3 in a game where you were town. Thats why im calling bullshit on your reads on me. We have never been the same alignment and you wont even admit you have mafia meta on me. As for not listening to people who I thought were mafia I was right about every single one of them. Even hf I was stringing along who I said was 95% mafia. So like your reads totally wrong and made up im calling you out. Your my top scum so far. Page 21: On December 31 2014 19:48 KelsierSC wrote: sicklucker can you explain what the issue is with ritoky attacking doctor? On December 31 2014 19:48 KelsierSC wrote: sicklucker can you explain what the issue is with ritoky attacking doctor? you have a huge town read on doctor at that point? On December 31 2014 20:10 KelsierSC wrote: @DRH - I read your case on Chyz and I like the effort and you do seem to believe what you are saying which is good. what I don't like is content of the case itself. You do repeat yourself a lot and that makes it hard to break down but essentially you don't like his reasons for "attacking" eden. The way I read the interaction is that he made his post where he didn't give a read and then you pushed him to give a read of his own and he had "my scumread is eden" for a few reasons..I agree they aren't very conclusive reasons. He says then that his read isn't conclusive just at that early moment in the game he has a slight scum read. Nothing wrong with that. His vote on you is a joke about garbage votes. So at this stage in the game you have a huge mafia post which due to a lack of real reasons ends up with a lot of repetition. Again I applaud the effort but I don't think chyz is scummy. Especially for the reasons you gave. On December 31 2014 20:21 KelsierSC wrote: ##Vote geript On December 31 2014 20:29 KelsierSC wrote: in his defence you did give two people as meh. chyz was town and who else did you give a read on? This is what he replied to: Koshi wrote: Tldr: I have TheChyz as pretty cool guy. Ritoky as meh. Dr.H. as meh. They are meh because I am feeling generous. So, Chyz town, ritoky meh, DrH meh. On December 31 2014 19:48 KelsierSC wrote: sicklucker can you explain what the issue is with ritoky attacking doctor? you have a huge town read on doctor at that point? Here Kelsier asks what's scummy about ritoky's attacks. He doesn't evaluate if the attack itself is warranted, he only asks if SL has a townread on Doctor to justify that he scumreads Chyz. The jist here is: SL's read on Doctor is nowhere to see in his reasoning for scumreading ritoky. But Kelsier tries to make it look that way, if he actually read SL's post, there is nothing in there that says "I trust DrH to be town and hence ritoky is scum". This is Kelsier displaying classical scum mindset: He sees his scumbuddy (ritoky) attacking a townie (DrH), SL, the townie, attacks ritoky for his push, and Kelsier instead of looking at the actual reasons, wonders, "why does SL try to defend DrH here, maybe I can find a reason to make his push seem less believable cause SL doesn't explicitly townread DrH when attacking ritoky, how can he be so confident that DrH is town would be his next argument". More to follow. But I promise I will solve this game before end of the cycle. | ||
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While townreading DrH yourself On December 31 2014 20:37 KelsierSC wrote: I suppose you do sort of call eden scummy when you say "I agree with chyz" I don't think DRH had an unreasonable statement , on first glance you only have one real read. if you don't count meh as a read. I read DRH as super eager , try hard town. , cause the only town motivation for you to ask why SL is townreading DrH, is that you are suspicious of Drh and SL isn't. But you aren't. Why would you wonder why SL doesn't townread DrH while SL pushes ritoky if you were town? | ||
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On January 16 2015 07:34 KelsierSC wrote: I see someone who doesn't want people applying pressure d1 and that bugs me. You applied pressure on SL for not townreading the same guy as you while he was pushing a scum. You didn't even bother commenting on the reasons SL posted, in that moment. You just ignored it and led the discussion away from ritoky cause SL didn't give a clear opinion on DrH. But why should he have? If he thought ritoky's push on DrH was scummy, then DrH wasn't already a suspect by definition. | ||
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But you have to trust into me being town to win this game. I'm putting so much effort into solving this. And that said, I'm currently at page 21 of D1 finding more evidence for why Kelser is scum and who else. | ||
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On January 16 2015 07:50 GlowingBear wrote: I was absent for two cycles because I was at the Caribbean. That's why I'm having such a bad time figuring things out. Specially because I don't usually stay alive for this long. Anyway, I think things said against you are very strong, and I also think you're playing in a different way that I'm used to see you playing. Your thoughts here are confusing and when I saw you playing as town, you were very straight forward. There is a plus: Master Koshi read you as scum and he knows you well. I'm very uneasy. BUT I don't think scum would be here to solve the game like you're doing. I'm assuming you're town because we are having the same perspective in the game right now. I'm also assuming Artanis is town because he ninja'ed the same thing I was thinking about. I'm risking losing this game with these assumptions, but that is the best I can get. After all, mafia is a game of assumptions. But I think you can be wrong on KSC. Just read my big post on the last page. Kelsier ignores the points brought up against ritoky and instead asks the guy who's pushing him why he thinks DRH is town. It doesn't fit into a townie perspective. | ||
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On January 16 2015 07:52 KelsierSC wrote: Viv said he scum reads lm but he isn't voting him. Kind of interesting. Especially when his theory is that Marv and I bussed lm. So if Marv and I are mafia surely lm is mafia. Why not vote lm then? Cuase I'm way more sure on marv and you being mafia than LM being mafia, and is the reason I said all those things at EoD yesterday. The thing that really revamped by suspicion on LM is the brain fart he let out at night when I questioned him. | ||
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On January 16 2015 07:58 KelsierSC wrote: Did I ignore the points? I don't see me saying that. I asked sl that question because it looked like he wanted to stop pressure and sort of traffic cop. Gb mafia need a ml here and they win so activity is not alignment indicative. Viv is desperately trying to find reasons to call me scum, he is not being objective at all. I have formulated my case on Viv. You can make up your mind. On January 15 2015 12:31 KelsierSC wrote: Sorry I can't stay awake longer I need sleep, vivax this was fun I'm sure we will chat again tomorrow. Where I am right now.. LM is mafia Viv is mafia then GB/Artanis is mafia I will make more detailed posts about it tomorrow when I have a computer but my phone battery is ded gaem. vote LM, viv is already proven mafia for not voting LM. ##vote Lazermonkey So you are talking about GB as if he's confirmed town when not a while ago it wasn't the case. Then there's also this: On January 15 2015 06:18 KelsierSC wrote: Massive slip from lm . Lynch him or Viv tomorrow I FUCKING CAUSED THAT SLIP. I FUCKING UNCOVERED IT AND CALLED IT OUT, AND YOU STILL PUSH THE IDEA THAT IM MAFIA. UR SO DUMB ITS INCREDIBLE. | ||
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and when LM brainfarts Kelsier says we're scum together | ||
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On January 16 2015 08:10 KelsierSC wrote: Viv,lm GB/artanis On January 16 2015 07:58 KelsierSC wrote: Gb mafia need a ml here and they win so activity is not alignment indicative. Viv is desperately trying to find reasons to call me scum, he is not being objective at all. I have formulated my case on Viv. You can make up your mind. | ||
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Go bury yourself into a grave please. | ||
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