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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21954 Posts
December 26 2014 21:30 GMT
#29
/in

Can you manage to make it 15 players? Gotta ask someone who has expertise on setup balance.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21954 Posts
December 28 2014 03:52 GMT
#66
I'm no big fan of notifications, Palmar game style. It can really make the game harder for scum than it already is. Best to keep options open for fakeclaims and direct the game towards being solved by content analysis rather than setup/roles/notifications etc. and it also ensures that scum can forge creative claims, it's up to town to fall for it or not.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21954 Posts
December 29 2014 21:44 GMT
#146
If scum KP is scum/2 rounded up it shouldn't last that long.

16 v 5 D1
15 v 5 N1
12 v 5 D2
11 v 5 N2
8 v 5 D3 LYLO without doctor
5 v 5 scum victory.

Game over after 3 mislynches, with no saves, and with the doctor dead.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21954 Posts
December 29 2014 22:35 GMT
#153
Well that was the KP formula in old games. I guess you can balance it out with a vet or some other town PRs. Otherwise having 2 static KP also works, if you want to make them not-factional you can add trackers/watchers/jailers etc.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21954 Posts
December 31 2014 14:19 GMT
#445
No idea why this started right before NYE, but I can't play until I'm back from passing the time with my friends at a house in a nearby town, probably tomorrow afternoon or evening, depending on when they want to drive back.

Until then, good luck. We're departing within an hour.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21954 Posts
January 01 2015 21:47 GMT
#1173
Hi. I still have to read a fair lot but I'm currently keen on what batsnacks wrote and agree with him on LM. The post looks extremely formulaic and I have no idea why he would talk so much about Chyz when he's going for geript anyway. The first paragraph just should looks like a soup of looking agreeable but not really.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21954 Posts
January 01 2015 22:51 GMT
#1220
On January 02 2015 07:36 marvellosity wrote:
i hope vivax comes back before i have to sleep.


I posted while you were all busy doing your geript thing. Didn't really get a reaction so far.So yeah, what do you think of the scummy awkward LM post batsnacks showcased.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21954 Posts
January 01 2015 23:33 GMT
#1267
I'm sold, DrH. The 8 hours ago he seemed fine" part was enough for me.

##Vote TheChyz
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21954 Posts
January 01 2015 23:38 GMT
#1273
On January 02 2015 08:34 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 08:33 Vivax wrote:
I'm sold, DrH. The 8 hours ago he seemed fine" part was enough for me.

##Vote TheChyz

Yeah? Could you tell me in your own words how it makes Chyz scummy?


Claims he was fine with DrH cause he looked like he was scumhunting, if you look at the posts in question at the time he said that DrH is spewing fluff left and right?

Did you read it?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21954 Posts
January 01 2015 23:41 GMT
#1279
On January 02 2015 08:37 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Vivax explain your inactivity if you could?


Came back today from NYE party and didn't want to sift instantly through the 50 pages, slightly hungover.
Don't worry I'll build up the pace as I catch up.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21954 Posts
January 01 2015 23:48 GMT
#1288
On January 02 2015 02:46 Lazermonkey wrote:
I'm having doubts about Chyz as well. I do think his play is bad and I don't agree with almost anything he has said this fair. But I'm not sure that makes him scum. He could just as well be bad town. I don't disagree with your case DH in the sense that I think all of Chyz plays are wierd and/or bad but can you explain his actions from a scum PoV? If something doesn't make sense from a town PoV but also doesn't make sense as scum, I don't think its a good reason to lynch someone for.

Granted, I would not be super sad if Chyz got lynched today. I do think he is a better lynch than say Robik. But I think geript is a much better lynch for today.

##Unvote
##Vote: geript


Lazer this is the post in question, not your response to Damdred.
Can you explain why you think TheChyz is a passable lynch for you after asking DrH to point out what his scum motivation is? If you can't see it for yourself why would you lynch him?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21954 Posts
January 01 2015 23:55 GMT
#1304
The list doesn't make him look any better to me. If anything it makes me wonder why he feels defeated so quickly. Looking at his scumreads I don't really grasp how he can tell apart people like geript and Koshi from the rest of his null/scummy-pile, they only appear rarely in his filter.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21954 Posts
January 02 2015 00:06 GMT
#1335
On January 02 2015 08:57 marvellosity wrote:
because he's a newish player and he's under this humungous tunnel and he's playing the game alone, not with a team. that's the other, very plausible, read.


I think you overestimate the influence of the team on an individuals play. Most of the time scum play for themselves except that they will try to favour other lynches but not openly contest a lynch of their own.

I'd simply ignore his reaction there and focus on the main points of what DrH wrote. Remember Tunkeg when he started martyring and posting some weird poems? (He was town). Well, I also remember myself starting to insult people when they would push for my lynch (I was scum). Such outbursts are to be treated as null, what you can look at is if his reads are coherent.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21954 Posts
January 02 2015 00:11 GMT
#1344
On January 02 2015 09:08 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 09:07 Koshi wrote:
So you couldn't possible think of a reason why Chyz wants to quit?

Vivax is trying to frame Chyz and he went over the top by saying "I wonder why he defeats so quickly". He is mafia.

Dafuq?


If I had to guess I would say that Koshi doesn't like how indirect that looks. But it's just what I was thinking at the time. It just looked like a massive overreaction and it left me wondering. We still have some time and it's not like the wagon on Chyz is so big (I think), and he didn't attempt to exhaust his resources yet, so why post that thing? It doesn't even focus on his main scumreads, it's just a soup of everything.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21954 Posts
January 02 2015 00:14 GMT
#1349
On January 02 2015 09:11 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 08:48 Vivax wrote:
On January 02 2015 02:46 Lazermonkey wrote:
I'm having doubts about Chyz as well. I do think his play is bad and I don't agree with almost anything he has said this fair. But I'm not sure that makes him scum. He could just as well be bad town. I don't disagree with your case DH in the sense that I think all of Chyz plays are wierd and/or bad but can you explain his actions from a scum PoV? If something doesn't make sense from a town PoV but also doesn't make sense as scum, I don't think its a good reason to lynch someone for.

Granted, I would not be super sad if Chyz got lynched today. I do think he is a better lynch than say Robik. But I think geript is a much better lynch for today.

##Unvote
##Vote: geript


Lazer this is the post in question, not your response to Damdred.
Can you explain why you think TheChyz is a passable lynch for you after asking DrH to point out what his scum motivation is? If you can't see it for yourself why would you lynch him?

Actually my point stands! DH posted about the "8 hour issue" long before the post you linked...

So basically you first read his argument about Chyz being scum, go on and read and then you start putting on suspicion on me and THEN you say you are convinced that Chyz is scum by the same argument you ignored earlier on. Am I understanding this correctly?

Trying to jump on the "better" wagon, are we?


I didn't ignore an argument, I simply found it later. I still didn't read the whole game, I'm mostly focusing on stuff I find interesting that is brought up, and DrH did a good job at bringing his point up, plus your post looked interesting when bats brought it up. This is where I stand right now and it's not a complete picture but the place I'm starting from. Does that answer your question? Do you now know why the post I quoted there looks scummy to me?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21954 Posts
January 02 2015 00:17 GMT
#1352
On January 02 2015 09:13 Koshi wrote:
Explain to me why Vivax is so focused connecting people with geript. Yet never talks about geript his alignment and his own view on geript.

Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 06:47 Vivax wrote:
Hi. I still have to read a fair lot but I'm currently keen on what batsnacks wrote and agree with him on LM. The post looks extremely formulaic and I have no idea why he would talk so much about Chyz when he's going for geript anyway. The first paragraph just should looks like a soup of looking agreeable but not really.


Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 08:55 Vivax wrote:
The list doesn't make him look any better to me. If anything it makes me wonder why he feels defeated so quickly. Looking at his scumreads I don't really grasp how he can tell apart people like geript and Koshi from the rest of his null/scummy-pile, they only appear rarely in his filter.


You can ask me about geript. I have no real guess about geript lol. I've read the bit where marv calls him out for trying to find holes in his list and geript then calls him 100 % mafia, and I've set it aside cause it just looked uninteresting. I didn't find what geript wrote about marv's stuff on two guys as outrageous as marv did, and for the moment I don't really care about geript and didn't spend so much time thinking over him as I did over LM's post and TheChyz.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21954 Posts
January 02 2015 00:19 GMT
#1355
I suppose there's no post limit this game.

Marv if you're still around why did you wonder when I'd come back and when I poked back you didn't really want anything?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21954 Posts
January 02 2015 00:21 GMT
#1360
On January 02 2015 09:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 09:17 Vivax wrote:
On January 02 2015 09:13 Koshi wrote:
Explain to me why Vivax is so focused connecting people with geript. Yet never talks about geript his alignment and his own view on geript.

On January 02 2015 06:47 Vivax wrote:
Hi. I still have to read a fair lot but I'm currently keen on what batsnacks wrote and agree with him on LM. The post looks extremely formulaic and I have no idea why he would talk so much about Chyz when he's going for geript anyway. The first paragraph just should looks like a soup of looking agreeable but not really.


On January 02 2015 08:55 Vivax wrote:
The list doesn't make him look any better to me. If anything it makes me wonder why he feels defeated so quickly. Looking at his scumreads I don't really grasp how he can tell apart people like geript and Koshi from the rest of his null/scummy-pile, they only appear rarely in his filter.


You can ask me about geript. I have no real guess about geript lol. I've read the bit where marv calls him out for trying to find holes in his list and geript then calls him 100 % mafia, and I've set it aside cause it just looked uninteresting. I didn't find what geript wrote about marv's stuff on two guys as outrageous as marv did, and for the moment I don't really care about geript and didn't spend so much time thinking over him as I did over LM's post and TheChyz.

How can you not care for him when he's the leading lynch less than 5 hours before the deadline?


If I can make a point in my favour it's cause I focus on the stuff I find interesting in a specific moment rather than paying attention to bandwagon politics? Still gotta read what this geript stuff is all about but when I posted the bits I found interesting he kept being brought up and I didn't really get why. Usual stuff when you're not caught up it's like everybody talks past you.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21954 Posts
January 02 2015 00:25 GMT
#1365
On January 02 2015 09:21 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
LM didnt stick so gotta deflect off geript onto vivax i guess. He was inactive earlier so that makes it easy to bullshit and jump all over him while he's catching up


Well it's easy for people who are caught up with the game to wonder what the latecomers are up to since their focus is so much different from their own. It will pass as all that synchronizes, for now I'd rather get a grip of what is going on rather than getting involved in arguments about those discrepancies between my visuals and their own.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21954 Posts
January 02 2015 00:28 GMT
#1369
On January 02 2015 09:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 09:21 Vivax wrote:
On January 02 2015 09:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 02 2015 09:17 Vivax wrote:
On January 02 2015 09:13 Koshi wrote:
Explain to me why Vivax is so focused connecting people with geript. Yet never talks about geript his alignment and his own view on geript.

On January 02 2015 06:47 Vivax wrote:
Hi. I still have to read a fair lot but I'm currently keen on what batsnacks wrote and agree with him on LM. The post looks extremely formulaic and I have no idea why he would talk so much about Chyz when he's going for geript anyway. The first paragraph just should looks like a soup of looking agreeable but not really.


On January 02 2015 08:55 Vivax wrote:
The list doesn't make him look any better to me. If anything it makes me wonder why he feels defeated so quickly. Looking at his scumreads I don't really grasp how he can tell apart people like geript and Koshi from the rest of his null/scummy-pile, they only appear rarely in his filter.


You can ask me about geript. I have no real guess about geript lol. I've read the bit where marv calls him out for trying to find holes in his list and geript then calls him 100 % mafia, and I've set it aside cause it just looked uninteresting. I didn't find what geript wrote about marv's stuff on two guys as outrageous as marv did, and for the moment I don't really care about geript and didn't spend so much time thinking over him as I did over LM's post and TheChyz.

How can you not care for him when he's the leading lynch less than 5 hours before the deadline?


If I can make a point in my favour it's cause I focus on the stuff I find interesting in a specific moment rather than paying attention to bandwagon politics? Still gotta read what this geript stuff is all about but when I posted the bits I found interesting he kept being brought up and I didn't really get why. Usual stuff when you're not caught up it's like everybody talks past you.

Will you have enough time to catch up before the deadline?


Dunno I'm currently drinking gin tonic and answering to the stuff from the last pages. I'll just see where my nose leads me to. Checking out this geript stuff next.
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