TL Mafia LXIX: Carol Of The Bells
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On December 07 2014 15:50 Tubesock wrote: /obs Yesterday I discovered the glory that is Mafia. Binge read the Student Mafia IV thread and then 3 of the advice threads. Seems like a wildly fun game. I figure I should probably wade in via /obs instead of diving in and ruining everyone's life with my noobness. I dove right in to a non-newbie game but I agree that /obs will teach you more | ||
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On December 07 2014 18:46 sicklucker wrote: Aids mafia. That site looks horrible racist and homophobic ;p How can a website be racist? It's just code interpreted by a computer program. | ||
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On December 07 2014 19:43 sicklucker wrote: I amuse it just a joke but it looks rly bad for someone glancing over the site. Their are racist websites out their sir, I felt like I was visiting the kkk homepage assume* really* there* there* | ||
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On December 08 2014 05:44 sicklucker wrote: 200, word essay? Like I never went to college but I think I did those in grade 3 thats not alot of words. Haha I've never seen anyone fall for that outside twitch chat. It's a very old joke on twitch intended to garner this exact reaction | ||
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On December 08 2014 08:05 rsoultin wrote: I'd challenge you on that, but I think my goal of most irritating might be easier to reach xP I'll take you up on that challenge. | ||
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On December 09 2014 02:41 kushm4sta wrote: not fond of your witty british repartee honestly How's your racist nazi kkk game going? | ||
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On December 09 2014 03:54 Tubesock wrote: Would you like it better if I had a number in it, like "Tubes4ck"? I hope you're happy with your new nickname, Tubesack | ||
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On December 09 2014 04:05 Palmar wrote: I still need to add a few roles and a special mechanic. Expect role full setup to be up 22:30 utc and role pms going out soon after. 22:30 GMT (+00:00) Time tags added for the lazy | ||
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On December 09 2014 04:43 Damdred wrote: Really templar? What do you think of kush? teehee Why are you asking templar what he thinks? What do you think? | ||
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On December 09 2014 05:01 sicklucker wrote: The exitement THE HYPE Excitement* | ||
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On December 09 2014 07:46 Palmar wrote: Game will be delayed a few minutes as I reroll the entire thing! Way to go 27 | ||
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On December 09 2014 08:29 ritoky wrote: i have a soft spot in my heart for good jokes. hey hey hey hey hey!!!! don't forget our first game where i rolled doctor and protected you like a victoria's secret push-up bra all game long!!!!! but yes, my read on you is generally dog poop. A santa joke involving the phrase ho ho ho... Yeah really good joke. | ||
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On December 09 2014 08:42 Alakaslam wrote: Yes they come with great influence but even the sibling is inconvenienced by such things. The awkward intensifies to the sick; the lulz come to those who know But ultimately my sis decided she would not trade my GF of Christmas past, (B. Friend of hers, I know slam so creepy whatever) because ultimately 100% men take some influence by this whereas legs, butthijole, arms be like 20, 45, 3; but of course ppl vary Btw who scumreads me yet for wasting posts being vulgar? If no one is shocked by this chile then he DINNAE care anymore because he don't know why it all matters For shame if there is naebody to FITE Grab the sumo suits, I'm down for a rumble. Why are you wasting posts trying to get people to talk about you wasting posts? | ||
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On December 09 2014 08:46 Damdred wrote: Why with everything going on do you not comment on it and instead only post about a joke and focus on fighting slam? Developing a read on slam seems like something nobody can reliably do so I may as well try | ||
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On December 09 2014 08:48 Alakaslam wrote: It is the right way Indeed I waste post! I am trying to garner your response; indeed there is WIFOM I now must read, and ask of ye! Let us see if Townread or scumread forms for I didn't see you earlier I commented once before so there's nothing to read, we start this fite on equal footing. You seem like you're fishing for something to me by blatantly posting nothing. | ||
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On December 09 2014 08:59 Alakaslam wrote: Calvin, Calvin, calvin. Boobs and full length high heels and Jesus was born in summer Constant stream of nothing from you after already saying you're doing it for WIFOM. You'll run out of posts very soon at this rate. Why are you fishing for marley specifically? | ||
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On December 09 2014 09:07 Alakaslam wrote: Thou'rt thick あなたは既にルールを破って、リングの外に辞任した。なぜあなたはまだ戦うためにしようとしている I thought being thick was a prerequisite for sumo. "You are already breaking the rules , resigned to the outside of the ring . Why are trying to order you still fight" No rules were established beforehand but if you don't want to fite I wont force you. I was about to comment on the 27NB post but HF beat me to it. Her 'easy scum read' is in her scum pile because only scum is looking for easy scum reads... | ||
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On December 09 2014 09:25 GlowingBear wrote: Oh hai I'm town Someone didn't read the OP and just made a boo-boo | ||
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On December 09 2014 09:30 KelsierSC wrote: So i think fecal is scum, we played a game together as town and early game he was very try hard, essentially Kush made a set up/mechanics comment and fecal went back to the setup, worked through all the permutations and then asked Kush to explain. Super town super eager. this game i make a set up comment, then retract it and ff doesn't bat n eyelid. All he does is talk to slam about sumo. Which is pretty pointless. Like "herez an excuse nit to scumhunt" it doesn't feel towny at all I don't expect you to have read my other town games but I've gotten exponentially worse as town. GB do you have a comment on the current votes or discussion? | ||
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On December 09 2014 10:07 GlowingBear wrote: Ok uhm we can lynch Templar because he is scum We can lynch bats because he is scum We can lynch kita because where the fuck is he We can lynch sicklucker because he is reading but not interacting kthxbai I'd lynch templar because his posts, while long, are full of more fluff than slam's. idk who kita is but it's still early so give him a break I'd lynch sicklucker because I wanted to plynch him last game and he was scum. | ||
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On December 09 2014 10:14 ritoky wrote: do you not like slam? please splain to me brochacho I think slam seems the exact same in every game. Any tips for reading him? | ||
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On December 09 2014 10:31 sicklucker wrote: No. Dont believe anything the evil ff says about me. Hes been trying to policy lynch me for 3 straight games. I haven't posted anything about you except in response to GB, what's with this obsession with me? | ||
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On December 09 2014 10:40 sicklucker wrote: Guys Christmas is a time for giving. So you are claiming to have a present or just want one? | ||
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On December 09 2014 11:29 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Would lynch sicklucker. I was just about to say, he's usually a lot more annoying as town. | ||
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On December 09 2014 11:36 sicklucker wrote: Just you wait. My last post was a double post it was a mistake. What I want to know is how do you know about the presents ;p Christmas Presents At the beginning of the game, three players will receive christmas presents. Before the end of day 1 they will have to decide to whom they pass those presents. During the following night the recipients of the gifts can choose to open the presents, or pass them on for the next day. One present is from the Mass Murderer. It will kill whoever opens it. One present is from Santa. It will allow the recipient to perform a single role check the next night One present is from Arnold. It will allow the recipient to perform a night kill the next night. Note that passing Christmas presents on does not count as a visit (for tracking purposes) and cannot be roleblocked (as it happens during the day). If the bearer of a present dies, the present is lost. On December 09 2014 07:45 Palmar wrote: There will definitely be three presents, and they will contain exactly what is listed, one of each. However the tags are, as you thought, fluff. And yes, my statement was about roles. I generally pretty anal myself about my wording. But please point out if you see something! | ||
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What's the read on GB based on, and slam too? Most people can't read slam at all especially day 1. | ||
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On December 09 2014 11:48 sicklucker wrote: Oh shit. Ya I missed that part I was fishing and trolling for info on who the other Joyful Child were because I figured only we knew presents were in the game because I missed that part. I thought damdred and gb were the other two, I still kinda think they are oh well. Who wants a present. Ok so we all know theres 3 presents in the game. But what I know is that its the Joyful Child role that has these presents. No one else can be sure of this as its not said in the description. But Damdred and gb sent out little tells that told me they were this role.I might have been wrong so ill reread it later but I think their the other giftgivers and therefore town. Also Ive been up 20 hours and dont rly feel like playing much right now but the insomnia might have kicked in. Looks like joyful child is just a named VT unless you read something I didn't. | ||
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On December 09 2014 11:51 sicklucker wrote: Anyway I should be able to confirm myself as town by telling you who ill send a present to if your all dumb enough to vote me. Send it to me I promise to open it even if it's the death present | ||
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On December 09 2014 11:54 sicklucker wrote: Think about it the Joyful Child role has no description but it is a role its basically vanilla town 2.0. I have a present and im a joyful child it adds up. Its pretty obvious. Im pretty sure something dandred said makes me ride or die with him maybe gb too. Let me look it up. So a named vt.... | ||
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On December 09 2014 12:10 sicklucker wrote: I agree but my fishing was going to get me lynched =[. Now that the cats out of the bag is it better to give the present to someone im town reading or scum reading ! | ||
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On December 09 2014 12:13 kitaman27 wrote: He claims that his joy role gives out presents. OP states that joy role does not, hence the lie. I'm asking if its one of those silly town lies that he thinks is doing good or if he has the mafia's present and is trying to benefit from the cred of a fake claim. Is there something saying that presents aren't random and that mafia knows which present they get? I've read it over again and again and I think it's random. | ||
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On December 09 2014 12:16 kitaman27 wrote: Well I interpreted it as the present from the mass murderer would be given out by the mass murderer, but perhaps I'm wrong. On December 09 2014 07:45 Palmar wrote: There will definitely be three presents, and they will contain exactly what is listed, one of each. However the tags are, as you thought, fluff. And yes, my statement was about roles. I generally pretty anal myself about my wording. But please point out if you see something! | ||
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On December 09 2014 12:21 The_Templar wrote: And yet you missed every single post where I claimed joyful child... Why are we still claiming? | ||
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On December 09 2014 12:44 LightningStrike wrote: By the way guys the votes go in the voting thread silly people http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/472995-tl-mafia-lxix-carol-of-the-bells-voting-thread Some people put their votes here too, everyone so far has voted in the other thread too. | ||
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On December 09 2014 15:12 Damdred wrote: Thoughts about what kit posted about NB and then voting him some time later Kit said 27NB is the most scummy 4 hours in and voted her. Seems ok to me | ||
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Kush claimed to have won the game and to know the setup. You just said scrooge should claim because you found a mystery hole in the setup. | ||
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On December 09 2014 17:29 KelsierSC wrote: @FF when LS gave his town list , he included OWS and you on it, what do you make of that, also what do you think of his scum list? Honestly I think it sounds like TMI, I'm not projecting towniness unless he is reading my last few town games. I don't care about his scum/null list tbh | ||
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Yeah LS is scummy as heck | ||
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On December 09 2014 17:57 Alakaslam wrote: Wazzap what does captain chupazi think of LS? | ||
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On December 09 2014 17:58 kushm4sta wrote: k ill trust whoever said scrooge should claim because that's the easier option for me. im scrooge. So, he said it to bait me into being town. Have fun getting killed tonight lol | ||
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On December 09 2014 18:04 ritoky wrote: @ff: what's your read on me? null, why? | ||
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On December 10 2014 04:25 Alakaslam wrote: 2 kusplain: SHEEP HOLYFLARE See this is something i can get behind. My power is out so i am phone but would rather not waste all my battery going back and actually reading instead of skimming. Hope this makes people mad! | ||
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Is it scum, though? I /obsed this thread because I knew I wouldn't be happy with certain roles but was told it would be a low content game and not to worry about lurking. | ||
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No argument here | ||
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On December 10 2014 07:02 kitaman27 wrote: Well if you can't keep up with the thread, can you read and give reads on individual filters that shouldn't be more than a few pages long? Really not sure who your scum reads are at all. If you want individual names, pick some people from rsoultin, froggy, Obi, batsnacks, ritoky, LoneMeow, Tube? Sure, I can filter dive for a bit | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/472628-tl-mafia-lxix-carol-of-the-bells?page=35#691 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/472628-tl-mafia-lxix-carol-of-the-bells?page=35#699 + Show Spoiler + On December 09 2014 22:15 rsoultin wrote: LS, bud, you're gonna make me push you again. Why you reading other games and not this thread? Plug in or butt out. froggy, null: less than a page including pregame, his second post in-game is 20 hours after his first and is still talking about policy lynches and explaining his first post. Then makes an excuse to AFK again even though multiple people are on him. Not a lot to go on unless 27NB flips since she was defending him. Obi, scum/null: Lurker obi is still scary to me and most of his filter so far can be summed up as OMGUS with a hint of random 'pressure' batsnacks, ???: He makes a vote on templar for not sticking to his RNG and calls him out for saying it's silly when he started it. He says HTS made a contradiction too, but when he gets asked why he ninjavoted bunnies he says + Show Spoiler + On December 09 2014 10:03 batsnacks wrote: Damdred I went back and looked and it looks like HTS and vivax have similar stances. For reasons I'm having trouble explaining, I thought HTS was scummy and I thought vivax was null. Maybe it's how they explained it. Vivax was more explicit. There's like 4 people I want to vote right now though. And I originally voted NB for the useless bra discussion. So he's not a fan of useless discussion? What about all the useless shit lian posted? I'm not sure where batsnacks' head is at he makes multiple posts on why HTS is contradictory but when HF tells him no all he says is 'true that' and votes 27NB again. Then asking for a list post? probably null/scum as well but I don't know. ritoky, mad: His first page is a lot of one-liners and retorts but the second I show I haven't been reading his posts he jumps on me like I insulted his mother. Not sure if that's alignment indicative but it sure is funny. LoneMeow, town: His only page of filter has more content than most of the people I have checked so far, he explains his reads and asks decent questions. ezpz townread for me Tubesack, null/town?: I'm not sure how I feel about a brand new player having such elaborate reads and checking other threads. On the one hand it's towny that he's trying so hard but on the other, I don't know if he's a natural tryhard or is getting a lot of help from a scum QT. If I had to read him without paranoia, he is town just because I'd never take notes as scum and I love playing scum. | ||
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On December 10 2014 07:50 liancourt wrote: + Show Spoiler + low content game they said how wrong they were 3~4 filter max they said already near 50 pages and its not even end of day 1 total ragnorak they said do u want to build a snowman? + Show Spoiler + I assume you're still going for the low-hanging-fruit play but why spoilers? | ||
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On December 10 2014 07:57 liancourt wrote: oh is that what it looks like? low hanging fruit meta? + Show Spoiler + | ||
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On December 10 2014 08:27 liancourt wrote: am i playing that meta right now though? How am I supposed to know? Sicklucker go suck an egg. | ||
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On December 10 2014 08:32 liancourt wrote: because u are playing the game do i look like i'm playing the low hanging fruit meta? a simple yes or no would suffice Yes until you ninja'd me saying your spoiler posts are fluff. No, I do not think you are playing your LHF meta but I did. | ||
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On December 10 2014 08:36 GlowingBear wrote: Hey I'm here to interact. Gonna read the game later today. Who's here to talk? You're the reason I have to force myself to try as stupid town. Do you think I'm scum, baby? | ||
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On December 10 2014 08:43 batsnacks wrote: Maybe you could add to your case that FF responding to kitaman in the way he did is not consistent with his "idgaf" attitude toward others. If FF doesn't have strong reads, wouldn't it be more consistent of him to just say "fuck off" rather than spending so much time writing weak reads? you and damdred told me to play. On December 05 2014 08:58 GlowingBear wrote: We need FF to join to have a full lurker game, including the host | ||
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On December 10 2014 08:50 liancourt wrote: i wouldnt say they are fluff, they were good bait for ppl like LS and HTS who thought i was scummy for it. Calling my spoiler posts annoying/odd doesn't mean they're scummy, but they took it that way then back tracked when i called them out about it. i'm surprised you even thoought it was scummy knowing the fact that I play like this early in the game. This isn't even a particular meta. It's just me fooling around the first 24 hrs of day 1 trolling ppl. And by observation only the new ppl fell for it while others just ignored it. Howeverm you are not new. You've played with me before and you shouldn't think this as scummy play and yet you say you did think it was scummy until I pointed it out it was all troll/joke. I think it was pretty obvious all the spoiler posts were joke posts and yet you stumble upon it and think it was scummy. Did I find another scum When did I say you were scummy? Your LHF meta is towny... | ||
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On December 10 2014 09:05 liancourt wrote: where did ninja claim mason The carol singing video, I thought that's what people meant by her claim. If I'm wrong, my bad. | ||
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Oh, ok. I'm a dum dum | ||
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On December 10 2014 09:15 KelsierSC wrote: Ah cool tubesock didn't read the thread. my scrooge play was to get a specific read on ff i explained that before. Outside of that i have given lots of good town reads, all of which are developed reads not one liners, weird misrepresentation of my play again. If you need more explanation , ask. fyi a guy talking to a girl isn't flirting, grow up. Aww I thought you'd get more upset at him calling you sexist. I want more drama. Guess I have to start it myself. Ritoky is tunneling me because I am ezpz push. I played this exact way in MSPAINT ritoky, except I think I was even more useless there. If ritoky gets his wish and everyone hops on the fecalfeast train all he has to say after I flip town is "omg he played so bad you can't blame me for thinking he's scum" seems like a good mafia play to me ##vote ritoky | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On December 09 2014 22:45 liancourt wrote: + Show Spoiler + i thought this was going to be a light game with post restrictions. The amount of people sadly counterbalances this. ;; setup talk/fluff On December 09 2014 22:54 LoneMeow wrote: Honestly if I see one more post from LightningStrike with the word "meta" in it my brain is going to explode. I fear the same will happen to me. useless comment On December 09 2014 22:58 Koshi wrote: Everybody is allowed and even adviced to completely ignore Kush. There is no use talking to him. We will have to deal with him D2 or D3. This is a dangerous thing to assume. If he actually is scrooge then he probably dies night one. I'm actually really annoyed. As I said earlier, I believe that Scrooge is vital to this game, as he is the primary target of four different roles. He is almost certainly in this game, even if it's not kush. Unfortunately, if Marley is in this game we are probably sunk if Kush is, in fact, Scrooge. At the same time, if Scrooge dies, we have three useless town roles that could claim. Everyone understands this, setup talk On December 09 2014 23:29 GlowingBear wrote: Koshi, why Templar "paying attention" is something so relevant to you? Why is this so important to you? reply to a post directed at someone else On December 10 2014 00:10 Tubesock wrote: Holy Moses. I didn't think I was such a slow reader but it's been hours and I feel I will never catch up to the thread while taking notes also. I'm trying to get reads, but they are conflicting with people who I feel are pretty freaking smart sounding. Namely, Koshi and Xata. Koshi, since you are here can you tell me more about your HTS read? I feel I'm fairly null/town on her. Namely, I believe that Froggy's plynch statement isn't meaningful. Bunny latches and basically posts it's probably bad but she thinks it's ok. Then scum lists Froggy. Then several people jump on her and later Dam asks HTS about the Froggy/plynch read. HTS replies that it's null on his part but Bunnies scum listing is scummy. HTS doesn't seem to scumlist Froggy. Then a bunch more people argue (kelsierSC, Bats, Viv others). I'd like to know why I should elevate the signifigance of HTS's reads and downplay Bunny's? Also I think people should read this more closely from the OP: It appears that given bad enough RNG we could have 6 Marlows, or 6 Mass Murderers, or 0. Which makes me wonder why we had a Scrooge claim?? It makes me wonder if any claims will matter as we can have multiples...so why not counterclaim? There will almost certainly not be 6 mass murderers. MM is a mafia role, and there can only be as many MMs as mafia. Plus, the game is presumably balanced, so if there are 6 MMs, there is enough town power to compensate. There was a scrooge claim because someone said there should be a scrooge claim. setup talk On December 10 2014 00:21 GlowingBear wrote: By the way, I had a present and I sent it to a player around 12 hours ago, I believe. Please don't reveal yourself but know that you've received it by a townie who isn't named VT. Bye. So, you're claiming a role. Great. Why? He's claiming 'not named VT' which to most people means 'not joyful child' which was relevant at the time since there was speculation as to who started with presents *yawn, yawn, skip through a bunch of useless posts around page 43* What has the use of the other posts you commented on been? On December 10 2014 02:07 27ninjabunnies wrote: I'm laughing so hard right now. Like so hard. I love the votes on me, I really do. Im doing a bit of rereading, but I won't br able to make a huge post until after my final today. That being said, I noticed some things after I left for my date (which went amazing btw. I got serenaded. So fucking hot) So people were curious as to why I put 2/3 town who were jumping on the froggy scum thing. That's because I was reading then town for posts they said that werent in regards to froggy at all. The reason I put froggy as iffy was because, 1. I said his post wasnt alignment indicative, but that doesnt mean I have a read on him. He hadnt said anything else up to the point I posted my reads, so I put him as iffy for not having a read. Im only up to page 21, so I have a long way to go, but Ill try and read through quick and posts thoughts along the way. If you have questions for me Ill be more than happy to answer. Keep in mind you are lynching a town here. Im hoping to be able to redeem myself. To victory boys and girls! looks like a mafia post, although this may be my intentionally-not-christmas-color tinted glasses. I don't think so. It has the same tone as the post you made before there were 9 votes on you. "This is a mafia post because your tone is similar to before you were voted" zzz On December 10 2014 02:20 Damdred wrote: I don't think he ever made a Santa claim at all... He did make a joy claim though I put myself into the role of Santa before realizing that I was probably claiming for doing so. I may or may not be Santa. fluff, nobody would claim santa before getting a check On December 10 2014 02:26 Damdred wrote: Meh we asked template for a story he delivered I wouldn't lynch a claimed named vt today I believe. kush did this stunt in the anime mafia game as town as well....so there's that Joyful child isn't a named VT as far as we know. Elf could just as easily be the named VT. setup talk On December 10 2014 03:35 Fecalfeast wrote: 300posts to read after sleeping. Can someone give me the death present please? Give it to me pls ;; useful post to comment on On December 10 2014 05:16 Damdred wrote: .....Becasue it is double speak. Don't policy lynch, lynching lurkers is a form of policy lynching, in a big game a good scum strategy is to lurk and they are a ok lynch? Reading up on the Froggy posts. why is this quote here? On December 10 2014 04:10 froggynoddy wrote: + Show Spoiler + On December 09 2014 08:25 Damdred wrote: Ritoky, HF, Templar are in my town pile. Slam is tentatively town Froggynoddy is in scum pile Bats I thought you weren't goin to make the opening salvo? On December 09 2014 08:23 Holyflare wrote: So what you're saying is policy lynches are terrible but if it all goes sour you want to policy lynch?? On December 09 2014 08:22 Damdred wrote: -5 town points for this post, going into the bad boy category tonight ##Unvote Templar Story shows awesomeness On December 09 2014 08:30 Damdred wrote: Cause i'm comfortable puttinng hf rit and templar into a pile, slam is slam so i'm not comfortable putting him with my other new town toys yet. Cause he made a pretty bad post that boiled down to, lets agree lynching lurkers is a bad thing but i'd be ok with lynching lurkers. Ok, perhaps I should explain things a little more simply. My statement can be broken down as follows 1. ANY policy (including lurker lynching) is bad because it stops people from scumhunting; 2. Lurking is still a valid criteria to lynch on, however it is just one of many criteria and should be given its appropriate weight; 3. It's DAY1, therefore we are not going to have much evidence/criteria to go on. Furthermore, this is a relatively large game. As such its an easy scum tactic to lurk whilst town lynches someone who is involved in the thread on very poor evidence (again because this is the nature of day 1 lynches), therefore lurking is a decent criteria to justify a lynch at this stage, just not one that warrants a policy. I shall read rest of the thread now... So, I got from this that scum hunting is important, but that day 1 lynches are based on poor evidence and therefore shouldn't be done because scum will be lurking, HOWEVER lynching possible lurking scum completely prevents scum hunting. Wahaaaaaat? misinterpreted post, lynching lurkers hinders scumhinting because you spend 0 time hunting when you lynch a lurker since the only reason is that they are lurking However, I am OK with his read on me, despite it being one of the most negative ones in the thread. This is, of course, the only reasonable thing I have seen. It has, so far, taken him 6 hours to not come up with a read. He said he was reading through the thread and didn't really give any evidence of this. Adding to naughty list for now. The only read in the entire post On December 10 2014 07:50 liancourt wrote: + Show Spoiler + low content game they said how wrong they were 3~4 filter max they said already near 50 pages and its not even end of day 1 total ragnorak they said do u want to build a snowman? I'm disappointed by how much everyone is spamming too. It's like me on other areas of this site. another comment on posting speed My mother is leaning over my shoulder and asking why I'm spending so much time on one post. Speeding through thread... On December 10 2014 09:34 KelsierSC wrote: So i need to sleep and conserve posts. I'm going to finish off my town circle tomorrow morning and then lynch into whoever is left. I'm going to add templar to my town circle, initially he was nl for his story, but his posts did have reads and i really like his reentry post, i agree with all his reads, he doesn't like gb, doesn't like ls, on my phone can't remember 3rd read...maybe it was nb. Ah i knew i liked it though. its interesting 2 people , one after the other, say my play is one liners or fluffy but ive actually made plays and given substantial reads rather than just spam inane bs in spoiler tags. I must have missed it, who said your posts were fluffy? I think they are pretty short but on-topic. You really need to slow down your posting though, you're going to reach the limit soon. And yes, a lot of your posts are one-liners. Some are two lines. zzzzzz On December 10 2014 09:37 27ninjabunnies wrote: Also, how jerky is this? I defend his ass saying his post is not alignment indicative. Go through hell for it, and he fucking scum reads me. What is this shit? Also 4 posts? Never should have defended you. ? I do this too. Just because you say he's town doesn't mean he has to recuperate. Stop expecting gifts from people. More coal in your stocking. reciprocate* On December 10 2014 10:04 LightningStrike wrote: Okay Templar I forgot to answer your questions and I will answer now Within those stories there were reads, also possible questions for other players. Also you had some good questions trying to lead a discussion in this game for a bit so that why I town read you. Damdred is more of a meta reason why I think he is town because his posting is pretty similar how was in Student Mafia which I played with him. OWS again meta reasons that I think he town since his play seemed to mimic his town play on Russia Today game for his Day 1 stuff. I also changed my views on sicklucker after learning his shenanigans was the present claim I concluded that he is in fact his normal self for town which have mix of wacky shenanigans to force early town reads and some non sense it just how he is. Your answer on why you considered my posts towny. Other people seem to think I was restating a lot in the thread and didn't have original content. What parts of my posts do you think were thought-provoking? decent question Damdred/OWS: I know you seem to like to compare people to how they were in a recent game you played, but I don't consider this sufficient evidence. One game, unless it is the entirety of one's play or it's very distinctive (see S1CKLuCk3R), could, from my experience, be outdated evidence or an outlier unless it is in line with other games. 'I dislike meta reads' some people think this way On December 10 2014 10:09 27ninjabunnies wrote: The sarcasm is real in this one Lol, 2000 plus posts. Yeah not new. Okay... So yeah, kita... GG Where is the relevance in the LS read ? Or where you said that why isn't FF reading Tube and LS the same, when they aren't both new? I have 34,000 posts. Would you like to guess how many games of mafia I've played on TL? zzzzzzzzz On December 10 2014 10:53 GlowingBear wrote: Cool, townslam. I think this game is going to be easy. How has his play differed from when you read him scum? another ok question So this post is long and also without substance. One read and two questions out of all the comments he made. If this is how his posts are gonna look I'm going to tl;dr them from now on. my vote on ritoky, for those asking further back in the thread, was purely OMGUS and trying to get him angry at me. What can I say? I'm an attention whore. | ||
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On December 10 2014 14:21 rsoultin wrote: Dude, you're either reading your timestamps wrong or thinking that no one will check. Xatalos has not posted a single thing since 27nb returned. His vote was made before then. Nearly the entirety of your Xatalos' 27nb read case hinges on the notion that Xatalos is ignoring 27nb redefining the word "iffy". You do realize that when you quote, it timestamps the time that you quoted the person? If she hadn't returned by the time he reconsidered HTS (who had been contributing more to the thread at that point)...eh, weak sauce. I'm not jumping on this wagon any more than I did the 27nb one. The timestamps in quotes are in KST(korean standard time) if you want to avoid confusion when adding timestamps to posts use the [unparsable timestamp format] | ||
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This is my post 58 so unless you all start voting me I'm gonna lurk | ||
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On December 10 2014 14:52 Fecalfeast wrote: ##unvote ##vote xatalos rasputin you didnt use the voting thread | ||
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If 27nb is the scummiest why am i being voted? Is it because you know 27 is scum and just incase your scumbuddy gets killed you can be all 'see here i thought 27 was scummy' I'm sure i make contradicting reads because it's too boring to pour over the entire thread looking for nitpicky shit as town. I take everything at face value whenever i am here and reading. I'm not sure what people mean as an inconsistency between my tubesack read and my LS read but I've played with LS before and haven't with tubesack. I'm either gonna sheep back onto 27 or omgus vote you(kelly) not sure which. | ||
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On December 11 2014 04:47 froggynoddy wrote: If NB is town then I sure wish she would defend herself a little more than she has... I think Templar is my scummiest read. Early day 1 - (when he is meant to be busy): lots of fluffy no content reads; Mid Day 1 - Comes back with something again that looks constructive but is not (see FF's deconstruction that I would tend to agree with) Late day 1 - no real pressure on him (apart from me kinda and FF kinda) - says a few things of no value - goes away (whilst this is when he was meant to be more active). Now he could be acting disaffected (similarly to myself to be fair) - but I feel like he has managed to put more time in than me yet come up with very little. The only reason I thought Rit looked bad (as per my previous post) was the timing on his LS and FF votes. It felt like he was trying to get a wagon away from NB who seems a pretty strong NB read. So if NB flips scum then I would deffo consider another look at Rit. Other than that I cannot really see anything scummy on him so not worth a day 1 vote (particularly this late into the day). I will vote Templar (as my vote doesn't seem likely to swing things towards or away from NB) as I feel he is my marginally scummier read than NB but will keep an eye on the thread until the deadline. ##Vote: The_Templar Someone read my post on Templar's post? Holy shit it's a Christmas miracle my work was actually looked at! | ||
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On December 11 2014 07:07 batsnacks wrote: You could post about this: So I didn't reasses the situation because my vote on 27NB was a sheep vote anyway. All I want to do is sheep because I can't be assed to read the thread properly one time, let alone over again, to form a good read. I like vote logic and meta reads and I've not played with half the people in this game before. I play the role of useful idiot as town and I'm not about to deviate from that. That said, I would love to shennanigan onto kush again. Worked once when he lurked all day! | ||
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On December 11 2014 07:21 Koshi wrote: Always lynch 27nb. Kush is more pro-town. I've been getting a scum tone from you but I've never played with you before. What makes kush pro-town? | ||
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On December 11 2014 07:25 Xatalos wrote: Haha. He's just saying that 27nb is even worse. I'm like, really stupid. In case anyone hadn't figured that out yet | ||
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On December 11 2014 07:32 batsnacks wrote: Don't think too hard about it you'll hurt yourself. Remember Campus Mafia when he solo-voted sentinel? That's the one where I shenannied onto him and people still scumread me that game. | ||
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On December 11 2014 08:33 Trfel wrote: Ok, this isn't working out. What are some good strategies to effectively playing in a Mafia game that is this long, and has this many players? A lot of filter reading and note-taking, or what? Disregard haters, obtain reads however you like. Remember to antagonize those who scumread you for it. | ||
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On December 11 2014 08:25 liancourt wrote: so we have 2 mafia kp 1 mass murder kp 1 vig kp and 1 present kp yo i expect a bloodbath in 24 hrs lol | ||
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On December 11 2014 09:39 The_Templar wrote: So, as mafia, you're out to kill as many people as possible? Please don't point that thing at me, it's loaded! | ||
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ritoky (1): 27ninjabunnies, kushm4sta, Fecalfeast 27ninjabunnies (11): batsnacks, The_Templar, Fecalfeast, Holyflare, batsnacks, Half the Sky, sicklucker, kitaman27, liancourt, Vivax, Koshi, Alakaslam, Xatalos, Tubesock, Tubesock, Trfel, Fecalfeast Half the Sky (0): batsnacks, Xatalos, Koshi The_Templar (2): GlowingBear, froggynoddy sicklucker (0): rsoultin, ObiWanShinobi ObiWanShinobi (0): rsoultin Vivax (1): Oatsmaster LightningStrike (0): ritoky, Alakaslam sicklucker (0): LightningStrike liancourt (0): LightningStrike GlowingBear (1): Damdred Fecalfeast (3): ritoky, LoneMeow, KelsierSC KelsierSC (3): The_Templar, 27ninjabunnies, LightningStrike, Alakaslam Xatalos (3): ObiWanShinobi, Vivax, Fecalfeast, rsoultin, Tubesock froggynoddy (1): Half the Sky Not Voting (0): 27ninjabunnies was lynched! If you look at the final count I was on 27nb | ||
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On December 11 2014 13:57 rsoultin wrote: Are we actually calling the case against 27nb strong? She played poorly, sure, but people jumped on that train before half of the players had even posted one time. It shows a peculiar sort of tunnel vision, imo. Simply put, Xatalos' defense of his reads on 27nb was not adequate for me. I asked for a simple thing, to show me why he thought that bunnies was so much more scummy than anyone else in the thread. His strongest read (at least to my eyes) was against OWS, and most of his reads were about the people voting him. He spent most of his time trying to refute points that Vivax made against him which I didn't agree with in the first place...so obviously I'm not going to care if he makes the same arguments I more or less made for him when Vivax first started that push. Tube made a good point, though. I didn't catch why those last two last-minute votes. @FF, dude, you posted that without the strikethroughs. I verified that it was right in the vote thread, but that post up there doesn't prove your point at all. hahahahaha I'm so dumb | ||
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On December 11 2014 14:16 rsoultin wrote: Ah, right, one was Trfel who came in last minute. FF, why did you change your vote? Or are you going to make me read your filter lol? I read your filter. I still don't see why you changed your vote. Care to enlighten me? Sheeping koshi mostly | ||
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On December 12 2014 05:47 ritoky wrote: to whomever gave me this present, gonna open it. yolo, wish me luck. rip | ||
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On December 12 2014 07:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I've decided that LoneMeow is mafia. With the caveat that he might not be. Insightful as ever. | ||
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I honestly feel bad for joining this game when i knew i shouldn't. I'm voting tubesack and lurking i don't really care to read all this new stuff. | ||
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I named FecalFeast, LIghtningStrike and I as survivors as I viewed us three as the best mlynch targets for mafia. We were all over the place but no one was really pushing any scum priority. Why would mafia waste their bullets on us? It's also a safe bet that town wouldn't protect us if that was a possibility. Tubesock why do you read me town when everyone else thinks I'm scum? Seems like TMI I'm not hardly playing. | ||
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On December 14 2014 05:53 Alakaslam wrote: Who is LS Exactly | ||
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On December 14 2014 06:04 GlowingBear wrote: I WILL LYNCH WHOEVER DOES NOT VOTES ON HOLYFLARE AFTER THE BEST CASE OF MY LIFE I WILL LYNCH WHOEVER DOES NOT VOTES ON HF AND I'LL PM GAY PORN EVERYDAY TO YOU GUYS. EVERYDAY. Now I want to unvote | ||
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On December 14 2014 06:17 ritoky wrote: still waiting for someone to tell me why FF isn't mafia? I got a town pm | ||
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On December 14 2014 06:15 Vivax wrote: Let's just assume for a moment you're town. Why are you playing this game? You complain whenever there's something new to read, you don't try to find scum, and when you do it's by you being a passive prick that wants to die, saying that scum are the people pushing you and your argument for that is your alignment post-flip. The thought that you might be town scares me. SpookyFeast | ||
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On December 14 2014 06:27 liancourt wrote: i really like this post actually. but the fact is ff played like this last game being a useless townie continously playing like this just helps when he rolls scum. However, I really don't like to lynch him today when i really think kel is scum right now. Honestly it's hurting my next scum game because I really enjoy bullshitting and scum games were the most fun games I had by far. (here and the one on omgus) | ||
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On December 14 2014 06:33 batsnacks wrote: You've haven't said anything about KSC this game. Is this because you think he's scummy or are you just trying to stay alive? Little bit of OMGUS, little bit of sheeping trfel's case. | ||
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On December 14 2014 06:39 GlowingBear wrote: FF, you have my blessing. Although people are lunching a question mark over obvious mafia. I'm not really caring right now. I'm sure my case is spot on. Nobody who tried to deflect it succeeded properly. There is not counter argument for the things I've said. the prophet has spoken. All praise to the great glowing ursine! | ||
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On December 14 2014 06:42 batsnacks wrote: What is the strongest single thing trfel said about KSC in your opinion? The fact that he flip-flopped on multiple reads. Ritoky and vivax to be specific. The early game scrooge outing is super lame but he got a power-role killed last time as town so I can't really scum read him for that. | ||
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On December 14 2014 06:52 Tubesock wrote: HAHAHA, you can't get out of this. Look at them squirm folks. ##Vote: Tubesock. It's 1 mlynch that CONFIRMS 5 mafia and absolutely most likely 6. Lynch/kill them down my list till I'm proven wrong with a town flip. Then reevaluate. Being lynched doesn't confirm anything about your reads except the motivation behind them, sorry. | ||
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On December 14 2014 07:30 KelsierSC wrote: I'm really kind of out of it so dont know what the slam dunk case on me is. I adnit my d2 has been useless butninhave had to spend two nights in hospital. i mean i made a lot of good town reads and made my case on ff d1 , pretty strong case. I had a logical progression to ny vote. For nb i analysed her play very strongly end of d1, my concern with lynching het was to do with her role claim, ibdidbt want to lynch a power rile, looking at the game from. Different perspectives is a towny action not scummy. so i skimmed some stuff, i like gb he is town but just vote whatever my town circle votes. dam,hf,bats kosh,kit,tenplar.xat are the town leaders invite what vou vote for!! soulton is town too where is the vote list? I don't want to vote for someone in hospital. I implore you to reconsider your read on me as I am just a donkey | ||
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On December 14 2014 09:00 Holyflare wrote: I'm not claiming my specific role am i? I'm giving people the most information possible about what happened yesterday without giving myself away. I was also likely to be vig shot yes. Mafia shooting me doesn't matter either because that will give you game changing info. True. Doctor may or may not exist and could save you too, I guess. | ||
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On December 14 2014 09:05 GlowingBear wrote: I fell asleep because I was feeling sick. What happened? THE PROPHET ARISES KSC was scum HF claimed a role but not any specific one | ||
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On December 14 2014 11:18 The_Templar wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23433611 If me talking about RNG was a reliable method to finding mafia, 23433611 mod 19 (remaining players in the game) is 18, meaning it would be Trfel. Trfel bussed KSC, you heard it here first | ||
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On December 14 2014 11:23 GlowingBear wrote: Listen: we can discuss any topic regarding HF. There are a lot of reasons why I think HF isn't a good shot. I don't want to talk about any of them. But we can discuss HFs alignment, that's for sure. I still think he is scum. Odd thing: Kelsier didn't vote HF to keep alive. Thoughts on this? He could have but it would have 8/8 with kelsier still lynched since he hit 8 first | ||
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On December 14 2014 11:32 GlowingBear wrote: His vote + another mafia on Kelsier wagon could keep him alive and kill possible town!holyflare Which means: 1) KelsierSC wagon was pure town 2) Kelsier was bussed to give someone towncred 3) HF is also mafia. ALL PRAISE BE TO GB, MASTER OF LOGIC. I kinda lean toward 1 or 2 over 3, if I'm not blindly following you. | ||
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On December 14 2014 11:48 rsoultin wrote: Lol, FF...you're praising him for stating the obvious. There literally are no other options. He just said: Either scum voted for town Or scum bussed scum when the other option was town Or scum bussed scum when the other option was scum That post is a completely useless insight lol. PRAISE BE TO RSOULTIN, FOR HE IS BLIND TO FACETIOUSNESS | ||
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On December 15 2014 05:56 Alakaslam wrote: Btw what ghost did LS claim Ghost of xmas present | ||
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On December 15 2014 06:11 Alakaslam wrote: Now I have to go filter dive HF or what He claimed "a role" nothing more | ||
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On December 15 2014 06:11 sicklucker wrote: Hi Calvin your not a role in this game. I think he means joyous child, calvin and hobbes? | ||
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On December 15 2014 06:16 Alakaslam wrote: What did HF claim I can't find it inhere He said "I am a role" and that's it | ||
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On December 15 2014 06:22 sicklucker wrote: I think santa should check his list twice on vivax. I think their is probably a mafia between him and xata. Like plz let them fight all day rusputin dont break that shit up. I also think there is scum between vivax and xat | ||
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They were both on the wagon on me, xat being the last to unvote me and vivax unvoted me but re-voted once kelsier voted me. | ||
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Vivax, HF, Xat, HTS my scum reads going into the next day because they were the main proponents of the wagon on me. Vivax and HF mentioned NKs to justify a scumread on me right away, I didn't look deeper to see who else used NK logic but these two said shit right out of the gate. Vivax unvoted me before kelsier put his vote on me, then voted me again after. xat was the last one to take his vote off me. HTS honestly is a gut read and pretty weak. I'm not going through the first day/night again so if there's anything in there that makes this list stupid let me know. Slam SL truffles liancourt top towns for me | ||
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On December 15 2014 06:31 Vivax wrote: I was on HF.....with you. Can you even read a votecount? You were eventually | ||
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All I can see is snowman got hit + JK exists and saved someone as well if we are to assert there is a mass murderer. | ||
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On December 15 2014 10:21 GlowingBear wrote: ... Mass murderer can hold his shot. This would lead space to mafia HF to claim veteran. I am scatterbrained this is an option I am considering even though I didn't portray it very well. | ||
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On December 15 2014 10:21 GlowingBear wrote: Rsoultin claimed being roleblocked???? Rasputin called ritoky out before he showed up saying "I bet ritoky claims RB" | ||
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On December 15 2014 10:24 GlowingBear wrote: It doesn't mean rsoultin was roleblocked. I want people who was roleblocked to claim right now. I never said rasputin was roleblocked, sorry for the confusion I was only saying that he called ritoky out before ritoky claimed RB. | ||
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On December 15 2014 10:26 Half the Sky wrote: The branch manager was KSC who was lynched D2. But the BM can shoot only once per night. So someone had to account for the second disgruntled worker kill N1. Probably the faction kill if we assert no MM and Vivax's tracing of OWS to LM (the mason) is correct. lol KSC was branch manager. Readingfeast strikes again! | ||
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That makes the branch manager pretty terrible. So I'm going back to my original theory that we have a snowman and a JK. | ||
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Avaricious Branch Manager Isn’t Christmas wonderful? It’s the perfect time of year to get your profits up, as all the dopey consumers come in and buy your wares. You have little to no regard for the welfare or needs of your staff at Christmas, as long as the money is coming in, that’s all that matters. And you’ll fire any staff that get uppity without regret. You have a gun that you can use to shoot any claimed Disgruntled Retail Workers at night. You have 2 bullets (one per night). GB is referring to the fact that this description says the branch manger can only shoot claimed workers | ||
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27ninjabunnies, Disgruntled Christmas Worker, lynched Day 1 Koshi, Disgruntled Christmas Worker, killed Night 1 kitaman27, Disgruntled Christmas Worker, killed Night 1 Damdred, Joyful Child, killed Night 1 kushm4sta, Town Scrooge, killed Night 1 LoneMeow, Town Carol Singer, killed Night 1 KelsierSC, Mafia Branch Manager, lynched Day 2 Trfel, Town Santa, killed Night 2 ObiWanShinobi, Town Arnold, killed Night 2 So far we know we had Cop/Scrooge/Vig/Mason/(Mason)/Named VT/miller/miller/miller + me(VT) We know scum team has avaricious branch manager and can assume there is also RB and marley. If we have a vet or JK we can assume mafia has another power role like godfather or mass murderer, right? The subject of LS' claim comes to mind as well. The OP says the game will be hard and require good play to win but doesn't mention for which team. Is this a dumb line of thinking? I think a second vig(ritoky) in this setup would be huge for town especially if we have a vet or JK. Does three millers make up for cop/vig/vig/mason/mason/scrooge? Someone is fakeclaiming for sure. | ||
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Who gives an ultimatum between himself and his scum buddy? | ||
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On December 16 2014 04:49 Xatalos wrote: Btw I kind of doubt Templar and Tube are scum together. Candidate for most obvious statement of he year | ||
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That is to say if scum decided to make a play and got tubesock, the goon, to bus/create an ultimatum with, branch manager,(goon at this point) kelsier to guarantee towncred it worked like a charm | ||
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On December 16 2014 05:36 batsnacks wrote: Mafia better start spamming so no one reads what I just posted. cannot be unseen ##vote ritoky | ||
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On December 16 2014 07:33 marvellosity wrote: Roleblocks are not notified If someone tries to deliver KP and the KP is blocked either by a save or a bulletproof vest, is the person who sent the KP notified of the failure? Just because in my mind this only means ritoky wouldn't be notified he was roleblocked, not that he wouldn't be notified of his KP failing. | ||
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On December 16 2014 07:48 batsnacks wrote: Well, FF is dead. Shame you didn't read what I quoted at the top of the page. Am I getting modkilled for asking in thread? | ||
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On December 16 2014 08:04 liancourt wrote: i want you to flip first it will tell me a lot more information rit flipping now will tell me nothing Killing mafia when we don't even know how lose we are to lylo is worse than killing a question mark? | ||
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On December 16 2014 10:35 GlowingBear wrote: Argh yeah, the roleblocking thing is awful... I don't know what to make of it... Although ff is most likely town too, him "praising" me makes me feel so uneasy on him... ARGH I just wanted to use the bear mask if we're being honest here | ||
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I also don't see why SL was called confirmed town for so long just because he acted like he was confused about roles. | ||
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On December 17 2014 05:56 ritoky wrote: rsoultin's reads make 0 sense, he is potentially mafia sl is trying to ride a dumb tell for town cred too hard, he is potentially mafia there's a mafia between oats and froggy and maybe ls but less likely ls cuz roleclaim hf is still probably mafia if one of those fails the last one is ff Since I know I'm town try again on the last one, bro | ||
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Hey ninjavoters, care to post? | ||
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On December 17 2014 05:58 marvellosity wrote: Count Dracula Holyflare (3): liancourt, ritoky (10): Tubesock (0): froggynoddy (0): GlowingBear (0): Oatsmaster (3): Vivax, Alakaslam, sicklucker Currently ritoky is set to be lynched. 2h1m until deadline. can anyone not on ritoky, who hasn't already explained why, please explain why? | ||
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On December 17 2014 07:28 Fecalfeast wrote: can anyone not on ritoky, who hasn't already explained why, please explain why? | ||
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On December 17 2014 07:28 Fecalfeast wrote: can anyone not on ritoky, who hasn't already explained why, please explain why? | ||
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On December 17 2014 08:24 sicklucker wrote: Dammit ff have you learned nothing? I think we all know the answer to that question | ||
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On December 17 2014 08:59 sicklucker wrote: FF you just received a present from hf. If you think hes mafia why are you opening it? You only yolo once | ||
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On December 17 2014 10:29 Alakaslam wrote: CHUPAZI Hey so like Skill mah broddaz So Tell me; is Vivax or LS marley or what is ism? Because There are not enough too many ghosts sson Why did you ninja vote oatsmaster? | ||
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On December 17 2014 11:02 GlowingBear wrote: I forgot koshi died... With LoneMeow killed by vigi, these were the mafia nightkills: kushm4sta the Scrooge is dead Damdred the Joyful Child is dead Koshi the Disgruntled Retail Worker is dead Kitaman27 the Disgruntled Retail Worker is dead We already know that there are 3 shots here (2 mafia kp + mass murderer) We have to decide if kush was shot by the mass murderer and that either koshi or kita were shot by the banker or banker missed his shot and kush was killed by Marley. By the way, it seems the first option to me, making LS and Vivax claims (much more LS's, he had no motivation to claim day2) look bad. It also means damdred was shot instead of dying by the present. Which means SL is scum or scum is setting SL up. Anyway, hard to believe scum would try to soft confirm SL thinking that he would be scum later. Which means SL is very likely to be scum. Which leaves to the conclusion that SL, Vivax and LS could be scum together. Considering lian tried to deflect the lynch from both ritoky and HF, I pointing FoS at him. This will be my last post for now, because I've only for five left this night. PRAISE GB | ||
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Why would mafia give anything but a confirmed death present to town? | ||
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On December 18 2014 08:13 LightningStrike wrote: Why claim you got a present wtf man. I think we are misreading him, he has to know that you don't get the present until night time. | ||
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One question: why are you still alive SL? | ||
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##vote: The_templar | ||
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Push a lynch on me, it'll make finding scum a lot easier | ||
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On December 19 2014 09:43 rsoultin wrote: LS, I appreciate the vote of confidence, but assuming that you're town, the only one (barring being a caroler or something) that you can know is 100% town is you. So please, never follow me blindly. That's why I make cases. I can be wrong. If you agree with it, that's fine. More the merrier. I also will not necessarily stay on GB forever if it means sacrificing a player who I think is town. I'm not quite that stubborn, and I don't think that Templar is the worst lynch we could make. I still need to fact check HFs case, though, and see what else I can find...if I agree with it or not. And yes, GB. You probably should read my case against you. -shrugs- That's just common sense. | ||
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On December 19 2014 09:52 rsoultin wrote: I haven't townread Templar yet -shrugs- I already gave two reasons he makes me itchy, but I haven't done the research or checked HFs case closely enough to decide if I think it's enough to be scum or just null. Obviously lynching someone I think is town would be the worst lynch. Why do you ask questions with obvious answers? Also, has anyone notice that Tube hasn't posted at all in 2 days? I don't know if it was being rattled that his conspiracy theory wasn't completely right or what, but...he posted once after the flip and hasn't since. I would kill tubesack. He seemed like a tryhard which I saw as town at first but his loss of steam is somewhat suspicious | ||
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On December 20 2014 03:05 GlowingBear wrote: My god. You can't understand what I say. I'm... Amazed. I can't be bothered to explain it once more. Voting on whoever you want to. I'll flip town. I'm and elf. Probably the only fucking elf in the game The more mad you get the more I think that I might be the only elf, not you. | ||
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On December 20 2014 05:20 Tubesock wrote: I'm here. I have no problem voting HF or Templar. I don't think Templar has done anything towny. I think HF is mafia's ringleader still, and needs to flip one way or the other. We lynch Templar today, then I think we will spend the next three days arguing about HF and GB. If we lynch either HF or GB, then we will probably spend like 10 posts on lynching Templar. It doesn't sound like many people are towning him. I don't understand why HF will argue for so long with Sicklucker if it isn't to set something up. HF said something like "Fine, I sent my present. Happy Birthday." And the donkey that I am thought he was talking to me since TL changed my icon to happy birthday. So, I thought it was a set up. Anyway, I don't really understand why HF won't say who he was talking to, but I also don't think it matters. I still think HF, Sick, and Templar are scum. GlowingBear is looking scummier too, but I'm not quite willing to vote him yet over those other three. Also, why do people think that everytime someone says "I'm sending a present" they are telling the truth? I don't think Sicklucker had a present to give Damdred. IT was just a nice cover to execute him. If you don't think damdred died to a present, please outline the night kills in a way that makes sense. | ||
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On December 20 2014 05:38 rsoultin wrote: There were 5 night kills. We know there was 1 vig (OWS) We know there were 2 scum with extra KSs (KSC-Branch Manager and ritoky MassMurderer) We know that after these 2 died, mafia still had their 2 auto KPs. That accounts for the 5 night kills No one had to die to a present xP Sorry Tube, no, I don't know that's what happened, but there's hardly a reason for scum not to try to get shots off on the first night, so it's likely that the ones with extra KSs did make kills. The OP says only claimed disgruntled workers can be shot. | ||
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On December 20 2014 05:54 Half the Sky wrote: Alternative theory sans present: 1 Kush killed by Marley (if he exists, he has not flipped) 2 2x KP - scum factional kills (Koshi/Kita and/or Damdred) 3 Vigilante kills LM (retraced) 4 Mass murderer kills the third of either Koshi, Kita or Damdred This is possible, no? On December 20 2014 05:42 Fecalfeast wrote: So that was a question for tubesack. Thanks gb and rsoultin... I wasn't asking because I can't figure it out. thanks HTS, too | ||
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On December 20 2014 05:33 Tubesock wrote: I can't. I also don't think anyone can. It would require knowing the set up which is something none of us do with the exception of mafia. It just seems awfully strange to me that people don't take into account that people can lie about sending/giving/receiving presents. None of it can be verified in anyway. Every bit of it is WIFOM. bolded is funny considering the response I got from other people | ||
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On December 20 2014 06:06 Tubesock wrote: And each has different scenarios. How does that go against my argument that we can not possibly know? I never said "what happened exactly?" I said to make a scenario that makes sense. You couldn't do that. Is it because you know how the night kills went and don't want to show any possible TMI? | ||
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On December 20 2014 07:02 Half the Sky wrote: Rasputin, HF said he wouldn't be around for EoD. HF ISN'T HERE? This sounds like someone's gonna get mad, I'm in. ##unvote ##vote holyflare | ||
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On December 20 2014 07:37 Half the Sky wrote: LOL...11pm EoDs make me fill up on a nice hot toddy. Isn't it still damn early for you to be drunk? I'm not drunk on alcohol i'm drunk on voting! | ||
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##vote holyflare Tubesock isn't scared. Xatalos is scum partner with hf | ||
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On December 20 2014 07:59 Tubesock wrote: Fecal, you make me want to shake babies. I get that a lot | ||
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On December 20 2014 08:00 Holyflare wrote: You guys are literally fuck wits This is true, I may have gotten a little silly there sorry. | ||
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On December 20 2014 10:36 GlowingBear wrote: HAHAHAHA SO YOU'RE SAYING HIS INTENTION DOESN'T MATTER, WHAT MATTERS IS IF HIS VOTE WAS VALID OR NOT? ZEUS PLEASE THROW A THUNDER IN MY FACE SO I CAN GO TO VALHALLA (Mythology unrelated) | ||
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On December 20 2014 10:49 rsoultin wrote: Okay, genuine question time. From players who are not HF/lian: Is there some sort of special significance to being a wagon multiple days? To me it has a hint of mafia to it when someone has most people voting him but is never lynched. WIFOM | ||
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On December 09 2014 07:46 Palmar wrote: Good question, my bad for not answering it in the QA The bullet is used up. OK so I opened the present. It was the gun which I pointed at xatalos. Bullet's not refunded so there's no point keeping quiet about it now. | ||
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On December 21 2014 08:20 Half the Sky wrote: Possible scenarios: 1 You got roleblocked by scum RB since you announced the present, if scum have an RB. 2 You used KP against Xatalos. But obviously he's not dead. Nigella might have roleblocked him thinking he was scum, and saved whoever Xatalos was going to kill. As a result though Nigella also protects so that's another theory why the bullet didn't go through. #2 is plausible given the number of people that scumread Xatalos. IMO makes him look really bad right now. I was pretty sure scum would use a RB on me regardless since I'm not a very convincing liar but #2 is where my conspiracy brain went too. | ||
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On December 21 2014 08:46 GlowingBear wrote: You said "saved". You know what "saved" implies. We are taking about intentions, not mechanics Arguing over semantics is totally pro-town.... What's got you so upset, GB? | ||
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On December 21 2014 08:48 rsoultin wrote: I'd rather Nigella confirm before we call it open and shut, personally. Since, as I said, scum RB blocking FF is a fairly strong possibility, too. He claimed to pass the present on, but no one claimed to receive it, so in terms of rolling the dice it's not a bad guess. And Nigella, knowing that, could have chosen to protect FF. The only scum FF can potentially be is the Godfather. Although...him being the godfather can also explain the night actions nice and neat, and claiming to have shot at Xatalos is very believable given, as you said, several are scumreading him. Well, if I was protected/blocked by nigella it means mafia decided to shoot me and means they probably don't have a roleblocker. | ||
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On December 21 2014 08:56 sicklucker wrote: The rb is more likely its not like they didnt know you had it?. I dont think are medic saves xata ever. Unless are medics one of the people im targeting or you got a save on one of them. Also im probably the save The night kills were super weird because mafia actually targeted confirmed towns. They did this because they didnt think there was a medic last night. Or me and xata were making so much sense. The medic is literally one of 2 or 3 people if slams vt claim is fake. So if your save is useful (someone im targeting) you should totally claim. The medic is one of lian or rstuin, with the only other claim id believe being slam. Im saying this because a fake medic claim is imminent and mafia knows its one of these 3 anyway. It's not a medic it's a jailkeeper. So RB on me is fine but why on earth do you think mafia was on you? | ||
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On December 21 2014 09:08 rsoultin wrote: Last post by OWS. He probably tried to shoot HF, especially given the rest of us were saying no, not until he flips. Anyone else think that's highly likely? LoneMeow the Carol Singer is dead dead to mafia kp kushm4sta the Scrooge is dead dead to marley Damdred the Joyful Child is dead dead to present Koshi the Disgruntled Retail Worker is dead dead to mafia kp Kitaman27 the Disgruntled Retail Worker is dead dead to mafia kp mafia kp includes mass murderer which checks out but basically confirms damdred was killed by a present. | ||
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On December 21 2014 09:15 Fecalfeast wrote: LoneMeow the Carol Singer is dead dead to mafia kp kushm4sta the Scrooge is dead dead to marley Damdred the Joyful Child is dead dead to present Koshi the Disgruntled Retail Worker is dead dead to mafia kp Kitaman27 the Disgruntled Retail Worker is dead dead to mafia kp mafia kp includes mass murderer which checks out but basically confirms damdred was killed by a present. I forget it's been decided that the branch manager can shoot randomly so that adds the possibility the bomb wasn't pened. my bad | ||
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On December 21 2014 09:17 rsoultin wrote: Nope. Nope. And nope. It was clarified that the Branch Manager can in fact shoot at unclaimed Disgruntled Retail Workers. There is still a possibility of Marley, made a much stronger possibility now that we've confirmed for certain there was a Ghost. They also definitely had the MM. So nope. There is nothing that guarantees Damdred was killed by a present. >< Also, what does that have to do with whether or not OWS took a shot at HF night 2? I was speculating as to how the night kills went down if we assume OWS hit the snowman. I forgot we had the branch manager shot question answered | ||
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On December 21 2014 09:24 rsoultin wrote: I don't like this auto talk, for srs. There is nothing auto about a game that still has 12 players, and at least 2 scum. Vivax was throwing a fit and basing his reads off said fit. It would be foolish to just kill the three on the Tubesock wagon, disregarding all other information, simply because LS claimed and ppl think I'm an idiot town. Probably one scum was on there, but I highly doubt the entire team was. That sort of reasoning is just ridiculous. Unless you think all the other possible wagons were scum, that is ridiculous. You have to base your lynch decisions off more than that. Or don't. Then I can call all of you guys donkeys, too, when it most likely goes south because you're not even considering other possibilities. Who are your top 3 lynches for today? | ||
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On December 21 2014 09:29 rsoultin wrote: I still like Oats for it. He's done nothing the entire game. I'd lynch Templar right now, too. He was strangely particular about who he'd vote for to save himself. Not alignment indicative, but his play has been underwhelming throughout the game. HF is a consideration, also. It would really inform what are now two wagons on him. I'm sidelining GB for awhile to watch how he decides to continue to play, but he's not townlisted for me yet, that's for sure. I'm also suspicious of FF, given how haphazard he was playing yesterday. Xata I'm not sure of. You guys keep bringing up that his reasons for voting people are crap, but I didn't find them particularly bad, myself. Okay so tell me if my interpretation is wrong Oats is scum because he has been inactive Templar is scum because his play has been underwhelming HF isn't scum for any reason but killing him would explain why other people read him scum GB is null(leanscum?) but you don't want to lynch because he may try harder I am haphazard by nature, no comment Xata thrown in for no reason since you null read him Do you have any full-on scum reads or is everyone a question mark to you? | ||
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I don't want to be in mafia's back pocket as a mislynch in lylo so if anyone is holding back pushing me based on a soft green check, get it out of your system now | ||
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On December 21 2014 11:38 sicklucker wrote: Like me, rsoultin, slam ,ls all should be pretty much assumed town for the rest of the game. Liam too to a lesser extent. One of us will prop out as a medic and one will be a save for the doubters. Basically we just lynch from my list which vivax copied and got all the creditXD. The only unknowns in this are like gb/hf which we can figure out in the final 3 if mafia is not forced to nk one of them by then. Hts templar xata oats If one of you are medic or carol singer just claim because we literally have auto. You are calling it a medic still so excuse me asking, do you understand the actual powers of the Nigella role? | ||
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On December 21 2014 11:59 sicklucker wrote: Its diffently #1 anyone following this game knows that hes trying to confuse us. How am I trying to confuse anyone? | ||
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I've not been drunk this game. The phrase 'drunk on power' is a saying that implies I was getting a rush from the fact that everyone followed my shenannie. Why reply to her post and yet use a pronoun other than 'you?' It looked to me like you were replying to HTS' post and telling her that I am trying to confuse people | ||
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On December 21 2014 09:54 Fecalfeast wrote: From now on, everyone assume I was not the check from santa and base your reads on the thread, not an implied green check. I don't want to be in mafia's back pocket as a mislynch in lylo so if anyone is holding back pushing me based on a soft green check, get it out of your system now | ||
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On December 22 2014 08:20 rsoultin wrote: What makes you think that HTS is scum, FF? Just look at the reaction to my shenannigan and the reaction to like, everyone who says anything. HTS looks like she's trying to stay on people's good side rather than find scum. Call it a tone read I guess but it's not sitting well. | ||
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On December 21 2014 09:32 Half the Sky wrote: To add to Rasputin's point, the vote spread from D4 (5-4-5) generally means there's no accountability in the voting, and the chances of scum being dispersed on multiple wagons is likely. The sentiment to go to Tubesock was based on 1) not having the votes for GB 2) having last second thoughts on Templar and 3) not wanting to get HF killed. FF - I'll put it out there, after N4: Templar, Xata, Oats. Just these from my recent memory. I suppose you are right, though, upon further inspection she's not been that bad. I haven't read any filters this game and really don't plan on it so I'm just taking everything as it comes. | ||
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##unvote ##vote holyflare | ||
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On December 23 2014 05:22 sicklucker wrote: ##vote Coagulation sicklucker, master of the mispost | ||
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On December 23 2014 06:51 sicklucker wrote: Why do you think mafia made a third wagon on tube when you and templar were even in vote count tho? Like I might still make you are 4th lynch just because of this. ok I can overlook when you misuse then/than or your/you're but seriously it's OUR not ARE | ||
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On December 23 2014 07:20 LightningStrike wrote: HTS who you protected last night? xata, she actually posted all her save/blocks | ||
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On December 23 2014 07:28 GlowingBear wrote: HTS, again, how do you know there was a confirmed save and a confirmed RB? The only other option is that mafia and I stacked KP on xata | ||
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On December 23 2014 07:32 GlowingBear wrote: How did your shot didn't went through, then? I shot at xata, he was protected and roleblocked by nigella.. nigella protects from all KP, not just one afaik | ||
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On December 23 2014 07:34 LightningStrike wrote: You saying FF is scum or something? whhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaattttttttttttt? | ||
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On December 23 2014 07:54 LightningStrike wrote: Your other half O_o What the hell is this sorcery? She's only half the sky | ||
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On December 23 2014 07:58 GlowingBear wrote: I'll be confirmed the most underrated player is he flips scum. I'll be confirmed the dumbest player if he flips town. we know | ||
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On December 23 2014 08:00 Holyflare wrote: Fucking templar afk'd and let 2 presents rng into town... Gg nice we even get a free teammate | ||
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On December 23 2014 08:13 The_Templar wrote: I'm here and not one of the players conceding | ||
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On December 23 2014 08:24 sicklucker wrote: Its obviously oats whos not conceding. He didnt care enough about this game to check it ;p I didn't even think of oats. Go figure | ||
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On December 23 2014 09:47 Xatalos wrote: Behold my ultimate plan of having all the roles claim now and snipe them ohhhh noooo not the useless roles. you criminal masterminmd | ||
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