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TL Mafia LXIX: Carol Of The Bells - Page 64
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Vivax
21768 Posts
I also need a link to the game you mentioned. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
ritoky (1): 27ninjabunnies (9): KelsierSC (0): Half the Sky (0): The_Templar (1): GlowingBear sicklucker (0): ObiWanShinobi (0): Vivax (1): Oatsmaster LightningStrike (0): sicklucker (0): liancourt (0): GlowingBear (1): Damdred Fecalfeast (2): ritoky, LoneMeow KelsierSC (3): 27ninjabunnies, LightningStrike, Alakaslam Xatalos (4): ObiWanShinobi, Vivax, Fecalfeast, rsoultin, froggynoddy (1): Half the Sky Not Voting (3): froggynoddy, KelsierSC, Trfel Currently 27ninjabunnies is set to be lynched. 6h20 until deadline. | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
aagain i folllowed up on ff so, not sure why you are determined to throw scum on me. i cant get the link but ff, Kush ,ls and bats were all in that game. Again you need to question what in would gain from genuinely thinking scrooge should claim. i need you to reevaluate because it looks like you are determined to throw scum on me, at the moment nb decided she thought i was scummy. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
Short opinion of liancourt's filter: extremely annoying to read. Lots of fluff. I like his more "serious" posts though and his reads seem fine too. Why is he so scummy? This is pretty much his only useful post that I can see.... On December 10 2014 08:50 liancourt wrote: i wouldnt say they are fluff, they were good bait for ppl like LS and HTS who thought i was scummy for it. Calling my spoiler posts annoying/odd doesn't mean they're scummy, but they took it that way then back tracked when i called them out about it. i'm surprised you even thoought it was scummy knowing the fact that I play like this early in the game. This isn't even a particular meta. It's just me fooling around the first 24 hrs of day 1 trolling ppl. And by observation only the new ppl fell for it while others just ignored it. Howeverm you are not new. You've played with me before and you shouldn't think this as scummy play and yet you say you did think it was scummy until I pointed it out it was all troll/joke. I think it was pretty obvious all the spoiler posts were joke posts and yet you stumble upon it and think it was scummy. Did I find another scum ...and 90% of it is a defensive post. In fact, the only part of his post that isn't defensive is accusing FF of being mafia because of how he interacts with him. There's something else interesting about liancourtyboy that I want to look at, but I have to leave again. | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469857-campus-mafia-new-newish-players-welcome?user=kushm4sta Here is FF On November 03 2014 08:20 Fecalfeast wrote: Just checking but what part of the OP did you misread to get this? Every setup possibility has a roleblocker which, even if setup A was 100%, defeats your plan. here is me On November 03 2014 09:11 KelsierSC wrote: Ff is my first town.. Firstly explaining to sentinal about the bh being rng king. And secondly he went back and checked the possible set ups after kush made his pronouncement then he asked kush to explain himself. That is a guy putting in the effort to catch scum. | ||
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Vivax
21768 Posts
When I think someone is scum I'll look in their filter for as long as it takes to find the things proving that they are and to convince other people, and when people still don't listen I'll usually get very wordy, or contest the leading lynch. That's how I play town, and how you don't, so I think you're scummy and hence that answers: not sure why you are determined to throw scum on me. | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On December 11 2014 02:00 Vivax wrote: I found your followup fairly weak cause after scumreading fecal and people giving your argument low weight you preferred to focus on other stuff rather than on trying to start a wagon on him. It's like you were content with just having a read out for some reason rather than actually getting people to follow it. Scum doesn't care if their read has weight in the town as long as people buy their explanations even when they don't agree with it and it looks like they're scumhunting. When I think someone is scum I'll look in their filter for as long as it takes to find the things proving that they are and to convince other people, and when people still don't listen I'll usually get very wordy, or contest the leading lynch. That's how I play town, and how you don't, so I think you're scummy and hence that answers: That's a fair point but not everyone plays town the same way. I haven't tried to push the ff lynch in people's face, I stated pretty early that I was trying to form my town circle and go from there and I have been doing that, that is how I play d1. The FF read was just something specific that I had planned to do. So my main issue with your play has been that some of your reads just don't line up with mine, I think you called Koshi mafia/mafiaish, you called Xat mafia and of course you threw scum on me. I think I have projected pretty good town so far, so just surprised I got a scum read. I think some of your cases are weak and I think your timing when you went at me is unfortunate because it came right after NB went on me. You also use the words "strange", "weird" "mafiash" "don't like" which I think is a scum trait. Then again you do seem to be focused on your Xat lynch and although your case is weak I get the impression you genuinely believe in it. not going to lynch you but I think you might just be incorrect town. | ||
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liancourt
1563 Posts
temp has a hardon for me my number 1 fan hijole | ||
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Vivax
21768 Posts
He talks about a lot of stuff I use against him but leaves the part untouched where I say that he first townreads bunnies for having a wagon on her, then scumreads her for suddenly thinking that scum is bussing her. That's cause he couldn't find an argument against that which is still a pillar in my case. | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9673 Posts
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liancourt
1563 Posts
haters be hatin i already said if u dont want to read my posts just dont flip them | ||
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Vivax
21768 Posts
Regarding 27ninjabunnies, there are two reasons that make me think she might be town: 1) She easily gathered a ton of votes and the rest of the votes have been scattered around everywhere. This makes me think that the Mafia team is supporting her lynch or at the very least content with it. If that wasn't the case, I think her wagon would have been a bit weaker or at least there would be a competing wagon. Right now it just looks like 27ninjabunnies is heading to be lynched and the Mafia team is happy / doesn't care about it. 2) If Half the Sky is Mafia, I feel it's quite unlikely that 27ninjabunnies is Mafia as well. Pre-flip association, I know, but I don't think scum Half the Sky would easily pile on a scum 27ninjabunnies wagon or that she would first start casually discussing with 27ninjabunnies and refer to her as town. So I don't really think 27ninjabunnies is a good lynch for these reasons. Maybe I was wrong about HTS. She seems to be actively doing stuff for now so it could be too hasty to lynch her. 27ninjabunnies on the other hand, doesn't look any better than earlier. Mainly for the fact that she defended froggy and then put him on her scumlist anyway when pressured. And townread the people who had stances against her own. Basically just meaningless listing contradicting her other posts. It could be that the scumteam merely doesn't have that much thread presence or is bussing her. ##Unvote ##Vote 27ninjabunnies And I don't care how careful you try to formulate your townreads. You threw a bunch of arguments out there for her being town, no matter how many "might be" you put in there. And later these arguments were reversed even in the light of new information from her. | ||
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On December 11 2014 02:26 Xatalos wrote: Short comment on phone. Vivax, where did I townread bunnies? Where? I only thought that she *might* be a bad lynch when there was no resistance and HTS looked worse. Then HTS looked better and bunnies looked worse in comparison. What's not to understand No, you said that bunnies might be town and definitely wasn't a good lynch. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
a) kelsier made it look like a trap (I had the same opinion that he looked towny doing it) b) you just quoted a bunch of reasons why he thought bunnies MIGHT be town and another quote where he dispels his biggest reason, I also berated him for thinking along the lines of "too many ppl scum read her" and you didn't take that into account also you've somehow changed the reason for him being mafia from not acknowledging bunnies new posts in his read to now turning it back to how he "town read" her at the start of the game? | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9673 Posts
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
I basically looked at this list of players to consider lynching HTS, Oats,Froggy,OWS,LS,Rit,FF,Tube,27 and Lian I was pretty happy with the list as it was. So then I go to my town circle and decide where are people looking and who do they suspect mostly because they might be alright and so I narrow my list down to this OWS, LS, Rit, FF, 27 Froggy had his weird lurker post but he hasn't done enough for me to read him. I really don't remember Oats doing anything at all, I made a point that I didn't like dam giving him a townread but I'm willing to ride with dam d1 . Tube like no one seems to suspect him even though his play is really confused. I brought up how he says im bad for town reasons is that I had early fluff , flirted with someone and my scrooge comment. The scrooge thing was already explained to get a read and I gave a lot of solid reads afterwards so saying I'm bad for town. misrepresenting my play.I just hate that kind of shit. His post was also after nb and viv had brought up comments on me, it was like trying to bw on. Then his vote on NB, no vote on Xat , no vote on NB. I would happily break a case here but no one else seems suspicous so not going to waste my vote. I go to HTS she had her entry with "hey nb I am also town" which I didn't like, then there was the confusion about her votes but that got explained to me. I didn't like her list of everyone as null but on the face of things she isn't overly scummy or memorable again I don't think I could produce a convincing case against her to warrant a vote. Lian is probably a pedophile but I don't really know what the fuck to do with his play except ignore everything he writes. So with who is left I think like this I really think 27 has been the scummiest player in the game. I think she made the early contradiction with the froggypost that was scummy. She then disappeared and came back to throw scum at me with a case on giving town reads. She also gives a weird town read on Viv which she still didn't really explain , just "viv is town because of -link to page" I like the argument that Koshi brought up about her and it is a great accusation. Then I think, if she flips scum..cool we got a scum. But if she flips town..mafia just say "well she played scummy don't blame me" for that reason I'm not going to vote her and instead i'm going to build a real case and get filter diving. Rit and OWS have both done absolutely nothing. OWS just sheeps a read, I can't remember one significant thing rit has done. if someone wants to elaborate on a scum case or town case for these people I will listen and gladly vote. My alternative scum read is FF So I had my early play with the scrooge comment, From my perspective it was a good read. He was very try hard in the campus day 1. He then started talking about Sumo stuff with slam. I just think that is an excuse to post without really scum hunting. A scummy trait. On December 09 2014 09:12 Fecalfeast wrote: I thought being thick was a prerequisite for sumo. "You are already breaking the rules , resigned to the outside of the ring . Why are trying to order you still fight" No rules were established beforehand but if you don't want to fite I wont force you. I was about to comment on the 27NB post but HF beat me to it. Her 'easy scum read' is in her scum pile because only scum is looking for easy scum reads... He copies a read, hey I was about to say that. He follows up eventually with his first serious set of reads which is a list post containing mostly null reads or silly reads. e.g. riti - mad Leon Meow makes this case which I think is great On December 10 2014 18:21 LoneMeow wrote: I could lynch this guy. First posts a large amount of mostly oneliners that aren't pertinent to finding scum, then says he's near the post limit so he's going to lurk. So anti town. There's also this: He dropped his scum read (which I assume was his strongest, given where his vote was) due to the "claim" but didn't reasses the situation in any way once the "claim" was explained to be a misunderstanding. Not what I would expect from a town player in that situation. ##Vote: Fecalfeast He then finally follows up with this vote On December 10 2014 14:52 Fecalfeast wrote: sheepalfeast rasputin you didnt use the voting thread Which was just a ninja vote on xatalos and shows a total lack of effort with the game. ##Vote FecalFeast | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
go read it here: click me! also now that bunnies actually said her claim wasn't a claim that's just really fucking disingenuous and scummy, her kelsier points weren't very good at all and i don't like that people took her "iffy" and "people to look at" claims as backwards because iffy means you have suspicion and to look at means null but somehow you all believe it's the other way around there's also what kita said which was very good, she's only stuck at her "people" to look at really as scum reads the entirety of the cycle and hasn't paticularly changed, even on me lol -.- BASED ON MY FIRST POST???? Not to mention her hard on for kelsier that hasn't disappeared ever an on a "reread" of the thread had absolutely no new information whatsoever and still was going on about her list post and her reads only from that list post I dislike HF at the moment more than froggy for his entrance post. Tbh, I understand there is a cap to posts (which I am probably rapidly approacing), but you shouldn't come into the game with the mindset that you aren't going to post much because of the cap. However, I did post a post just recently saying why I like HF now, for his view on Kelsier. literally says that i'm disliked MORE than someone with 4 posts based on my entrance post but also liked now too? kind of a waste and pretty disingenuous to still be reading me based on my first post in an entirety of filter, not to mention there's a shit town of wasted filler posts in between each of her posts like "oh does anyone else read sickluckers name differently" people should be still on her anyway i realised i actually have quite a few posts for up to deadline so that's cool and i'm super ill so will probably rest after it | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
On December 11 2014 02:59 Xatalos wrote: And at the same time she became more scummy because A) half the reason I was hesitant to lynch her had disappeared B) when I no longer wanted to lynch HTS, bunnies appeared more lynchable by virtue of HTS not being preferable Xatalos, there are 25 people in this game. If at points in the game, you are looking at any two people and you doubt both of them (be it myself, 27NB, whoever) well after the initial hours of the game, why aren't you at that point at least exploring or considering exploring the other 21+ people? Student IV had 3, this game probably has at least 4 scum. I know you explored OWS and FF, but that was well after you voted NB. Am I missing something? | ||
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rsoultin
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