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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
That's how you make lynches happen. @kita: I don't really feel particularly strongly about bunnies either way. I think Koshi really hit a nail on the head when he asked if we could produce a towncase on her, and I really don't feel like I can make one. I don't feel like any of the arguments levied against her make her mafia and I like where my vote is right now. But if nb dies...Meh. That's fine I guess. | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
1) KSC's Scrooge posts: Occam's razor. Is it more likely that A) town creates a plan to lure scum or B) scum creates a fake plan to jeopardize his own safety for no real reason or C) scum starts blatantly bluefishing and then claims it was to get reactions, jeopardizing his own safety for a very small chance of having a blue claim? I think A is easily most likely. Complicated plays usually come from town in my experience while scum are more "clean". Even if we assume for a moment that KSC is scum and lying about his actions, you should be trying to lynch him first and foremost. So why are you trying to lynch me instead when your argument assumes that KSC is scum? 2) The other thing where I apparently go from town nb to scum nb (lol): Did I ever say anything in nb's defense as a player? The only thing I said might make her town is that her wagon gained steam very easily and that HTS sheeped on her so easily. They weren't strong reasons, but something to keep in mind for me. Then the second reason started to fade away and the first reason didn't seem all that relevant anymore either (at that point the scumteam would probably be bussing her anyway, especially if their presence was weak). What was left was just her (scummy) filter. 27nb certainly seems like a decent lynch now. The same goes for OWS. LoneMeow and KSC also have good points on FF. I'm not so sure about Kush and ritoky. They're certainly not very helpful / memorable, but they seem more like Cop/Vig targets than people having a high chance to flip scum. Basically somewhere around coinflip status. Koshi: why not OWS today? rsoultin: OWS feels like a good lynch but I don't think the difference is significant compared to 27nb. If you think OWS is scum, it's a bit weird that you're following his lead without even bringing anything original to the table. HF: I'm not sure I get your point on Oats. Why is that TMI? I think "bandwagoning" can refer to both wagons on town or scum. I'll be looking through 27nb/OWS/FF again after I'll be back soon. I think one of them should most likely be today's lynch. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
If you can proof to me that OWS has a meta in which he is never less useful as town D1 I will revisit him for today. But you cant'. So stop being dumb. Thx. | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
I have never seen him call people scum for sheeping. It is the dumbest thing I've ever seen. Rsoultin is open to supporting him and Xat is still calling him suspicious for doing so because "he doesn't bring anything new to the table." Ridiculous. Like a politician keeping his options open. Is he always like this or is it just when he's scum? | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
Hrm. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
for that reason i don't think she should be the lynch d1 and we should focus other targets now and see exactly what play nb makes d2. Interested to hear more thoughts on my ff read. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
On December 11 2014 04:11 KelsierSC wrote: So when nb said "i could just claim" i was pretty fucking mad about that but reading it now. Either she is a role or scum right, saying that as vt is just really anti town Imo. for that reason i don't think she should be the lynch d1 and we should focus other targets now and see exactly what play nb makes d2. Interested to hear more thoughts on my ff read. I am leaning too heavy on scum. Tell me why she might be town. Using her filter. | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On December 11 2014 04:14 Koshi wrote: I am leaning too heavy on scum. Tell me why she might be town. Using her filter. I can't but she did basically claim a role and I think we get more information if we look elsewhere today and see what nb does d2 | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
On December 11 2014 04:15 KelsierSC wrote: I can't but she did basically claim a role and I think we get more information if we look elsewhere today and see what nb does d2 Sorry. But that is a ridiculous bad idea. Scum tends to claim roles to survive. The somewhat smart ones at least. There is no drawback when you are getting lycned. Either she is scum and will claim RB. Or she is town and will be RB. There is no new information tomorrow. And I am not leaving her alive so that if she is town she might eat a RB. | ||
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liancourt
1563 Posts
Its like kel knows ninjas going to flip town by the way he is posting | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
I don't see that anywhere. I see some valid cases on other people. But I don't see why they are a better lynch. | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + lian I don't really care what you have to say but she basically claimed a role, i'm not sure if you have been reading the thread | ||
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liancourt
1563 Posts
On December 11 2014 00:33 KelsierSC wrote: Some of the people voting on her are a bit suspect in my eyes. Like tubesocks ,weird voting pattern, and HTS Like this post kel is assuming ninja is town for the basis of this argument. Its like kel knows something town doesnt. Kel be scum | ||
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liancourt
1563 Posts
oh yes this is role claiming | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On December 11 2014 04:26 liancourt wrote: Like this post kel is assuming ninja is town for the basis of this argument. Its like kel knows something town doesnt. Kel be scum I never said nb is town, like...ever. I have said multiple times she is really scummy, in my big post I stated she is the scummiest person in the thread. My only concern was some of the people voting on her but Kosh made a good point about in a 10p wagon you won't like everyone. My not voting her is because if we lynch her today, and she is town, we get no information and potentially lynch a role. I think roles often play scummy. I don't like how most people are happy to just sit there and leave their vote on nb without discussing other people or possibilities. Again you just aren't reading the thread. Can't you just return to making shit posts in spoiler tags. you were more useful. | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On December 11 2014 04:29 liancourt wrote: Nope ninja posted a vid of carol singers oh yes this is role claiming that isn't to do with her role claim. she actually said in her post "I could just claim" | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On December 11 2014 04:11 KelsierSC wrote: So when nb said "i could just claim" i was pretty fucking mad about that but reading it now. Either she is a role or scum right, saying that as vt is just really anti town Imo. for that reason i don't think she should be the lynch d1 and we should focus other targets now and see exactly what play nb makes d2. Interested to hear more thoughts on my ff read. you shouldn't think like this at all because that's exactly what a mafia would want to do so you're telling us that we shouldn't lynch her or put pressure on her on the off chance that she COULD be town??? you're essentially giving someone that has a super high chance of being mafia a free pass because of a possibility she could be town, which doesn't make sense at all, especially when you posted this: On December 11 2014 04:15 KelsierSC wrote: I can't but she did basically claim a role and I think we get more information if we look elsewhere today and see what nb does d2 you have no reason to town read her... claiming a role is something scum loves to do to survive as that's their main goal, she's been bandwagoned the entire day by multiple people all day and arguably has the MOST information on her flip but you're telling us not to lynch her because she doesn't give us any info on a flip and she has claimed a role??? On December 11 2014 04:29 liancourt wrote: Nope ninja posted a vid of carol singers oh yes this is role claiming oh please as if that wasn't an attempt at some super obvious breadcrumb at being a carol singer "oh yeh guys just randomly while im under pressure im gonna drop this video of me carol singing in college" | ||
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