Student Mafia IV (New/Newish Players Welcome)

On November 19 2014 09:48 rsoultin wrote:
/in

On November 25 2014 17:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
Whats wrong with my reasoning on why bat's policy vote on kush is bad and his continuing badness with his vote on me and the circumstances surrounding that? You must elaborate.

On November 26 2014 02:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
So I'm not a scum read rsoultin?
Interesting. Why aren't you putting in effort to find scum since you have no scum reads? I don't see an inquisitive mindset from you.

On November 26 2014 09:54 meatpudding wrote:


Not sure if you're saying I'm in favour of no-lynch? I haven't mentioned that, and I haven't voted yet either. As for the time, it's morning here. On that topic end of day is at 8am for me.

On November 26 2014 10:07 sicklucker wrote:


Im pretty sure meat made a small 1 liner post you missed and he was already around. Also I do buy his Australian excuse

On November 27 2014 04:50 sicklucker wrote:
Rsoutn make sure to change your vote if your push has no traction near the deadline I will do the same. I will policy lynch people who cast useless votes thats a mafia trait if Ive ever seen one.

On November 27 2014 03:42 LightningStrike wrote:

I guess it just from having a bad experience from my last game that is the reason I trying to be more conservative about the Day 1 lynching. On the case on Dicksmash seems to be legitimately good from reading the case posted by kush and kush seems to be doing good reads this game. I really like the case for Dicksmash today since you (rsoultin) convinced me that it's to low of a chance of lynching a power role which I was originally why I was scared to lynch Day 1.
##Unvote ##Vote Dicksmash McIroncock

On November 27 2014 11:06 sicklucker wrote:


Your just super anti town and add nothing

On November 27 2014 12:30 meatpudding wrote:


I'm actually starting to think that SL's erratic behaviour means he could be town. I think if he were scum he would be a little more careful with his accusations.

On November 27 2014 12:50 Oatsmaster wrote:

like who?
Why are you using the word "we"?

On November 27 2014 13:02 Oatsmaster wrote:

he is super depressive and just makes cutting comments at people.
Not interested in finding scum or lynching scum
posting for the sake of posting.
Telling town to do things while not doing things.

On November 27 2014 15:47 Breshke wrote:


Yeah I believe you makes sense.

Do you think anything slam has done this game is alignment indicative?

On November 27 2014 06:33 Alakaslam wrote:
##Vote: Alakaslam

I have been very busy and got a voting reminder.

IF SELF VOTING IS NOT OK:

##vote: DSMIC as that is the largest wagon.

I am really ill informed due to being out of thread so long. I should be able to pick it up soon

On November 25 2014 11:39 Alakaslam wrote:

You see not with the eyes of chupazi. I will translate.

I want town to tell me why I voted Breshke for what was obviously a joke.

*GASP* That is so dry it probably won't work now!

or maybe it will? I still want y'all to do it! consider it fellow student homework.

On November 25 2014 11:54 Alakaslam wrote:

ah thank you.

Oh he did this intentionally?

hiiiiiiiiiijole.

Well he is like Kenpachi then; a not so great player...

##Unvote

Anyway here is the teaching moment.

Kenpachi is a dude who graced TLMafia a while back. He used meta as a tool.

The nice thing about newbie/vet games is you have this mix of meta and originality, when someone uses meta as a tool it is more apparent and the newbie is "left out of the loop" but is perhaps more likely to find out what is stupid about that particular meta.

For example, some people like RVS- Random Voting Stage (hello smashboards -_-)

WHY?

Yet me challenging RVS got me instantly disliked over there.

What (crap I forget his name) noticed there was someone doing a random vote.

And he pointed something awesome out: When you cut it to the bone, you can see that stupid crap like RVS can only really help scum by muddling motivations and intentions readability in a particular post.

Sure it keeps town honest too, (how many times have I seen town say "It's just a joke, seriously") (How many times do I joke!?!? lol) but ultimately taking "it was just a joke" away as an easy excuse for a telling post is better than leaving it.

sure, it will always be doable. THat is the nature of wifom. BUt as town to minimize this is awesome, and here by newness we are presented an opportunity to do so.

On November 25 2014 12:05 Alakaslam wrote:
... BATSNACKS!

Now say in one sentence your read on him plz.

Because if you can't condense it does it actually exist?

On November 25 2014 12:20 Alakaslam wrote:

It is real, and not actually baseless.


Hmm.

So do you know the context there? I don't.

Bats care to enlighten me or did he leave?

On November 25 2014 12:22 Alakaslam wrote:
Of course some folks haven't posted; game just started a few hours ago.

On November 25 2014 08:35 Damdred wrote:
Usually votes within the first page are pressure votes especially when you say hey i'm town going to afk. Of course you need to be back in the thread.

But look at the post that you are slightly town reading sky for, hes not defending you at all hes look at motives for bresh slightly without any real pressure. Half of it won't get any answer and then he discredits himself with the last sentence slightly . So not sur ei'm seeing what you are unless you are just looking to give people town reads for no reason

On November 25 2014 10:11 Damdred wrote:
@bats I missed you and glad you said that. Would you think I'm insane if I told you I'm scum reading half tight now

On November 28 2014 05:21 batsnacks wrote:


"rabble rabble"

Pick something either oats or Trfel has said about why I'm scummy that you agree with.

On November 28 2014 12:56 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay since now that my cousin and his wife and son have left I can finally give you guys my current reads for the time being.
Breshke: Town since he displaying the same kind of approach for today as he did in my last game when he was town.

Batsnacks: Null leaning town since he is acting close to the same way he did last game with me when he was a doctor but he been dodging questions from Oatsmaster and Half the Sky.

Damndred: Null leaning town since he was one of the major pushers for the lynching of DSIM without much of a good reason and been defending Batsnacks actions but at the same time he been giving losts of questions although DSIM didn't respond well to the questions.

Half the Sky: Town since he been giving good reasonings for his reads throughout the game although I don't like his case for Batsnacks being scum based on my own experience playing with Batsnacks in my last game.

sicklucker: Town because his posting style had pretty much stayed the same from the last game I played with him although he did looked very scummy in that game but he was just a Vanilla town and since our power roles had been lynched/killed I having a safe bet that sicklucker is town.

meatpudding: Null leaning town he had some decent questions after being gone for a while and now he claiming to have no power at his house it could be a scum move because one of the scums in my last game tried to pull that move but failed so perhaps meatpudding could scum.

alakaslam: null leaning scum since he not posted much of his reads but he also admitted to notread much of the thread during the time of us lynching DSIM but I need to see more posts of his though since he said he had to go earlier in the thread to confirm my suspicions.

Oatsmasters: Town since he been asking lots of questions to everyone and been trying to lead the discussion when he can which isn't a trait a scum member would do.

kushm4sta: Null leaning scum since he not been contributing a lot like his last scum game which was my last although he did give a couple questions to people he also didn't post much so I need to wait for him to post more so I can get a better read on him

rsoultin: Null leaning town since he trying to ask some questions and responding to questions he been asked by others although he did convence me to lynch DSIM that is haunting me because of my last game experience :|

On November 29 2014 03:05 Half the Sky wrote:


I think you have. Meat isn't a policy lynch yet. I am saying scum based on what he posted before he disappeared. Meat is not a policy, Alakaslam is, and I think might be edging closer to a modkill.

What I am questioning is Kush's justification for calling DSMI a policy lynch when he'd posted more recently (to Kush's voting him) and a scum lynch. He used "doubles" as the explanation. Am I making sense now?

On November 26 2014 08:02 Trfel wrote:
I'm becoming highly suspicious of batsnacks.

Looking at batsnacks' posts this game, it does seem like he hasn't contributed many reads or constructive comments at all. He has pressure voted kushm4sta, and tried to convince other people to vote for kushm4sta, as shown:



Then Oatsmaster starts hinting that he might be mafia, and he responds as follows:


He just starts attacking Oatsmaster, without actually providing any argument against the accsusations.

It's been nearly 24 hours and I cannot find any critical thinking or logical reads from batsnacks. He has been only minimally probing for information, as well.

Now, examining batsnacks' mafia history, it seems to show similar, non-accusatory play as mafia, but an ability to logically provide arguments against people as town.

In Fantasy Football Mafia Mini 2, his most recent mafia game, batsnacks was a mafia vanilla. His posts generally seem to lack content, for example this:

batsnacks did give some analysis in saying that robik seemed to be town in that game, which ended up being correct. But he failed to provide specifics or any real evidence of this:


He also defends Liam from an accusation. Up to now, the only two real things he's said are claiming these two people to be town. At this point he is accused of being mafia, and this is his defense:

He continues to not provide any true defense or explanation for his actions, and ends up being lynched on the first day.

In his mafia game before that, Fantasy Football (FFL) Mini, batsnacks is a town vanilla.


batsnacks accuses Oatsmaster of being mafia in this game (which ends up being incorrect). But when he defends someone as being town, he provides some support for this claim, and also shares his views a bit.


Here's a critical analysis of a post in that game. It doesn't result in anything, but this post has more logic and scum-searching than his play to this point in the current game, as well as his play in the first game I mentioned, where he was mafia.


Then he claims Hopeless1der to be mafia, which ends up being correct. I don't see any reasoning listed, though. This post also came after the first 24 hours of the game, unlike all of the other posts quoted here.

I did notice this inconsistency between his post in this game:

and this:


Why the change? Probably just a change in his playstyle, but another explanation is that he is searching for mafia in that game, and has less incentive to do so in this game.

Looking at batsnacks' play in the game preceding the above game, 2p2 Vanilla Werewolf 13er, batsnacks immediately comes up with a comprehensive look at GlowingBear:


He's clearly thinking and investigating the posts, and trying to find the scum. Then he starts thinking that SkyDragon is scum:



He continues to press on GlowingBear and SkyDragon. Both end up being town, but batsnacks is showing that he is capable and willing to attempt to find scum and provide logical accusations that other players are scum.

In conclusion, batsnacks seems very suspcious because he has not yet provided any real content, particularly at least one accusation of someone being mafia with an argument behind it. This resembles his play in his last game, where he was mafia, and contrasts with his play in previous games where he was town. What do you guys think?

On November 27 2014 07:31 Breshke wrote:


Landslide you say? Okay if dicksmash wasnt totally uninterested in winning this game he would probably be voting for bats HIS SCUMREAD. so that leaves the votes at 4 to 6. That means it only takes one person to change their mines for it to be 5-5 with the vote being pushed over by afk slam. I'm really starting to not care what you think sick lucker i voted where i thought I should

On November 27 2014 07:31 Breshke wrote:


Landslide you say? Okay if dicksmash wasnt totally uninterested in winning this game he would probably be voting for bats HIS SCUMREAD. so that leaves the votes at 4 to 6. That means it only takes one person to change their mines for it to be 5-5 with the vote being pushed over by afk slam. I'm really starting to not care what you think sick lucker i voted where i thought I should

On November 27 2014 07:09 Blazinghand wrote:
Final Vote Count

batsnacks (2): Oatsmaster, Trfel, Breshke
Dicksmash Mcironcock (6): kushm4sta, Damdred, Half the Sky, LightningStrike, SickLucker, rsoultin, Alakaslam
sicklucker (1): meatpudding
Trfel (1): batsnacks


Not Voting (1): Dicksmash McIroncock


Currently, Dicksmash Mcironcock is set to be lynched.

On November 26 2014 08:58 rsoultin wrote:
Gonna help you out here, SL. rsoultin. Spell the name right, bro.

Now I know you want to push Breske for pushing you in the beginning, and I didn't jump on that bandwagon. But I'll concede that you may be town and just bad at this whole let's set a trap thing. (I mean, really, what were you expecting out of that?) It doesn't seem like a mafia move just cause it's too stupid. So I won't push you, bro.

On a sidenote, where is the meatpudding? He was all gungho yesterday, talking about all his spare time...

On November 26 2014 09:18 meatpudding wrote:
Ok, here's where I stand right now. If you're name's not on the list then consider it a null read for the time being.

Marry
Breshke
Bang
HTS
Trfel
Kill
Damdred
sicklucker

On November 26 2014 08:37 meatpudding wrote:
HTS, do you have any read on kush?

On November 25 2014 09:11 meatpudding wrote:


Maybe I could explain the bolded part a bit better. sicklucker opens by saying he's going to afk. I guess he was fishing for a reaction from someone and Breshke jumps in and votes, because an afk town is essentially useless. (Though I would usually let the modkill go through).

Now sicklucker isn't playing afk at all, he seems to be poking and fishing around for responses. Could be ok, or could be suspicious.

I think it was way too early to give a town read for that just based on Breshke's response. Really easy for anyone to make that call. Now, since sicklucker backflipped on the afk deal, maybe he is just saying Breshke is town, and fishing for more info, or maybe he really is posting that as a read.

If it's a genuine read, I don't really think it's justified based on that small interaction. If it's fishing, then I can't really trust any of his reads because he can use that excuse to drop false information.

Actually on first read I thought he was saying that Breshke's vote was townie, but now it looks like he was saying HtS's defense was townie. Hm, maybe it's not so bad. Would like to hear whar sicklucker is really thinking now.

Often in other games players have put forward a Lynch all Lurkers and Lynch all Liars policy. I don't really agree with these but I was wondering if anyone else follows policy votes. Also in other games we have posted our reads in Marry/Bang/Kill format. I'll be doing that once some more people have posted.

On November 30 2014 03:47 Blazinghand wrote:
Vote Count

Kushm4sta (3): Breshke, meatpudding, Half the Sky
Half the Sky (2): Oatsmaster, Damdred
meatpudding (1): LightningStrike
batsnacks (1): sicklucker
Hopeless1der(1): batsnacks
LightningStrike (1): rsoultin
No Lynch (1): Hopeless1der

Not Voting (1): kushm4sta


Currently, kushm4sta is set to be lynched. Day 1 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).

Reminder to make sure to unvote before voting, if you have already voted someone.

Remember, voting is Mandatory. You may NOT abstain.

On November 28 2014 17:56 rsoultin wrote:
Sure, I can. The reason I started asking Bats and Damdred all those questions today (which apparently isn't proactive, but whatevs) was I found it very strange, Damdred's hyper-focus on HTS at the beginning of the game. SL repeatedly said that HTS questioning Breshke's intentions for voting him and apparently trying to determine alignment only gave him a slight scum read. Damdred kept battering at it, getting way more aggressive than necessary, then stated very clearly (and I quoted this earlier) that he had a scum read on HTS. Yet he claimed today that this wasn't the case and he was only trying to get SL to rethink things. I called him on it, he says he's got a reason (buried somewhere and not related, apparently, to the first part of the thread which is when he first mentioned the scum read) but would "dive" later to find those things.

Has yet to do so.

Bats I actually said was reading neutral for me at the moment. The policy-lynch on kush was eh, whatevs, can see why he might and it mirrors what Breshke did, but he seemed to jump on the HTS scum wagon, too. He says now that wasn't the case, and his posts half-support that because earlier he did clarify to say that he could see why someone might read HTS as scum, not indicating whether he actually did or not. Don't like the contradiction on voting kush though. He said he changed his vote after kush posted, but in reality he changed it to you before kush appeared in the thread.

I still find Damdred more scummy. That's why I've continuously mentioned it being weird to vote bats to determine if Damdred is mafia. One, I really doubt that they both are, because man they've backed themselves into a corner if they are and I like to think people are smarter than that.

As far as kush is concerned, I don't see him contributing that much. He asks a lot of other people for reads, true...majority of his posts were helping to push dicksmash, though. The main thing for me, however, is I actually have to go through his filter to remember a single thing he's really said. Which means nothing he's done was significant enough to get my attention, while I can remember details about most of the rest of you just fine.

Meatpudding...was just so off the wall. Beginning of game jokes, has to be prompted to contribute, the random digression on lynch policies mid-read on HTS, his general AFK stuff. Still say the guy's lurking. I was clear about the 24 hours in question being between when he asked someone for reads and when he posted his Marry/Bang/Kill list, and he says he posted a half hour before. Which he clearly hadn't. I'm looking directly at the filter. The list itself was just names, had to be prompted for explanations. The storm is legit enough, sure, but why was he AFK that long before? A different timezone does not equate to a 24 hr absence, and he dodged the question. Between him and slam, I've more reason to vote him because there's something off there.

You, Oats...to be honest I'm not reading you as scum but at the same time I wouldn't at all be surprised if you did flip scum. You really do have this nasty habit of focusing in on only the details you want to see. You've jumped on half my posts before, asking questions where the answer was in the word right next to it...

And maybe your definition of proactive is different than mine, but I think trying to narrow down scum by looking for town reads isn't useless.

On November 29 2014 14:42 rsoultin wrote:
Kush says d1 is enough to "prove" him town. Which...not really sure the thought process behind anyone claiming that because I view everything as fluid.

Nevertheless, a pop through his filter reveals:
- first post nothing but a vote on bats. but bats had policy voted him, so -shrugs-
- asks me why I said bats and oats were "scummiest", claiming I provided no reasoning when it was right in the post
- tells breshke sl is scummy for "omgus"ing breshke
- changes vote to damdred for tone and bad defense of "shit pushes", only giving reasoning 30 minutes later, after he's prompted
- gets into argument with oats in bat's defense for the HTS read (argument lasts 1 post)
- jumps on dicksmash train led by damdred (what was that before about shit pushes?) presenting evidence of "nitpicking" and "white knighting", votes dicks
- calls sl bad at the game for not providing reasons for his reads (nother pot calls kettle moment given his earlier vote on damdred)
- says again in all caps that dicks should be lynched day 1, two separate times in all caps, followed by a list of scum 5 ppl long (including Damdred in 3 spot, so again, why jumping on that train?) and defends bats some more, also citing one of the reasons to push dicks is because of his scum read on bats
- says lets lynch bats (sarcasm, maybe?) then turns right around and says he's not bussing, he's only defended bats after dicks flips town
- repeated comments he won't be able to do anything today and so scum wins (with this much time left before EoD?)

less concerned about him obviously closing ranks with bats, and more about the train on dicks with "scum" damdred and his "shit pushes". why vote for what you think is a scum-led push?

that and that there was all the meat (I encourage you to filter dive yourself) he had in 3 pages worth of posts...not a lot of anything but pushing dicks and backing bats

On November 30 2014 06:27 batsnacks wrote:


So is that post about why kush is scum or not because you've contradicted yourself 3 times in the last 3 posts?

On December 01 2014 07:37 Breshke wrote:


What has meat done that is town? Why didn't you have these views when dicksmash was lynched you seemed fine with that wagon.

On December 01 2014 09:02 rsoultin wrote:
LS has in fact been voting meat all of Day 2 until the end. Did not choose to move to kush. He is not lying about that.

On December 01 2014 10:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
Rsoultin, everyone voting meatpudding does not necessarily indicate that he is town, it could be that scum have no other strong pushes so they bus their buddy to get cred or buy time to further convince people that they are town.

On December 01 2014 16:14 Breshke wrote:
Are you reading Hts scum only because he didn't hammer you? Why can't you be scum and HTS town.

I don't like your scum team mostly because everyone who was changing their votes around at the EoD is in them. Do you really think 3 scum would be apart of a 5 person lynch mob for now I really don't think that is the case.

If you think bats killed damdred because he was townreading him why do you think I was roleblocked and trefel was killed? Trefels reads weren't imortalised with his death and lucky because he was wrong on at least damdred, so why would mafia think damdreds reads would not be reconsidered.

On December 01 2014 05:43 batsnacks wrote:
Oh and don't waste a lynch lightning. If lightning is mafia we lose.

On December 01 2014 21:08 Breshke wrote:


wow you read that fast

I don't expect you to agree with all of it im surprised it actually makes sense. Rsoultion I would be voting LS right now but I dont want meats to think there is no pressure on him when he comes back to the thread because he needs to start being towny today. So thinking on that how do you feel about people being so happy to take their votes of meat and vote LS, like does it change your read on meat?

On December 01 2014 21:23 Breshke wrote:


How much do you think votes at the very very start of the day matter though? Those votes are bound to change and stuff but i still see what you are saying.

I'm feeling a lot better about this game because I am now fairly sure rsoultin is town and if anyone disagrees they should say so we can discuss it.

On December 01 2014 22:30 sicklucker wrote:
Ya another odd spot where you and bats dont mention each other. Who did you vote d1 again?

On December 02 2014 10:37 meatpudding wrote:

In a way, I assumed he was N2 after for voting kush. Mainly because LS was already scum read to me and I assumed that neither bats or oats would be. So leaving off rasputin, breshke and sl that left me with hts and hopeless 1der.

On December 02 2014 12:05 sicklucker wrote:
Like I definitely correctly read damdred so im not sure what hopeless is going on about. Ive never said im 100% about anyone but I did before he was killed. The reason I was paranoid is because he asked qeustions that had already been answered at the start of the game. He did that all the time when he was mafia.

When he convinced me I knew he couldnt be mafia. Even tho we had different viewpoints on the game. I was paranoid tho that he could be adapting based on his early game qeustions tho. But in the end I said im ride or die with him never voting him off and then what do you know mafia believes me and he dies.

On December 02 2014 23:34 LightningStrike wrote:

rsoultin because I truly believe he is scum because of his actions on Day 1 and 2 combined I started to think he is scum towards the end of Day 2 when he called HTS a Vanilla Town which I would say is a scum slip and later on he started look scummier by the post in my eyes.

On December 03 2014 02:44 LightningStrike wrote:

Here is when you called HTS Vanilla Town

Also earlier in the thread I made the motion of not lynching at Day 1 you questioned on it and I gave you valid reasons based on my experience from my last game then you told me lynching is better which seems to me you were trying to bus me around as a newer player and that was the same behavior 1 of the scum did to me last game then all of day 2 you were bussing me around still and later on justifying your case on kush you used the little posting excuse on why you want to lynch him which seems scummy because I know people like me sometimes don't post much at all and later it turns out kush was town and you tried to blame it on Damndred and bats in this post
Normally scum players could put blame on someone who seemed scummy at the time and this for me is the final reason for voting you other then you voted on me.

On December 03 2014 07:01 Breshke wrote:
Im interested to see what bat thinks of that flip when he is around

On December 03 2014 12:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
nononono we kill scum first.

Come on, you gotta think that Hopeless is like wayyyyy more scum than Bats.

On December 03 2014 13:02 rsoultin wrote:


Why do we have to think that? Hopeless is lurking, that's true. But as I said before, I doubt all 3 mafia participated in shenanigans. Bats reads super scummy to me. Hope is a null. He did try to get me to play ball with him end of day 2, however, which is odd to me for scum. Everyone's already convinced, why bother trying to ask questions? Just let the lynch train ride lol. Nah, if it's between those two I'd bet scum.

And I am thinking, Oats lol. I'm not always right or even right the majority of the time, but I think my problem line's up with Breshke's to some extent. I don't remember disagreeing with you much if at all. That's odd. It's not nearly good enough to say you're scum, and I'm not sure that I believe you are, but there's something...off...something that doesn't fit.

On December 03 2014 12:08 sicklucker wrote:
Could oats and bats be scum together? I think theirs a chance and it could be the uneasy feeling were getting breske. I have no idea why Ive been the one pushing bats over his since d1. His defense was terrible. Unlikely Tho

at eod2 did ls move the votes off of ryoulin?

On December 03 2014 16:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
That's a horrible reason to scumread anyone.

You know how it looks? It looks like you are afraid to commit to a read so you are leaving me open to mislynch me at a later date. You don't even have any evidence at all that I'm scum.

What's so hard about calling me town?

On December 03 2014 16:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
Actually any decent scum player will tell his newbie scummate to find a very townie player and sheep him. It makes no sense to sheep your teammate because it's not like you need to buddy him or make him feel like you are listening to him. But it's good to buddy and sheep a strong townie to make him think you are with him and town.


So basically your evidence shows that ls is sheeping bats, therefore bats is town.

On November 26 2014 11:45 Damdred wrote:


First good job, overall this is a really good case and took a lot of effort it looks like to put together.

And for lolz I will say When has bats ever really shown logical critical thinking skills! ( I love you bats)

The big thing about bats is that he has taken great strides to change his play between games. The style and tone of his play and if you can remember him is his biggest mafia give away and lurkiness.

I do not think that you are necessarily wrong in what you are saying, we should be very suspicious of batsnacks and if he really stops doing things and is forgettable we lynch him immediately. But i'm not confident enough as it seems he is trying to push something when talking to people he does ask for reads from people.

You are now town to me.

On December 03 2014 23:50 batsnacks wrote:


Pretty much what oats said.

Lynching meat is cool too though because knowing his alignment pretty much solves the game. If meat is scum, we hit scum, which is awesome. If meat is town, it means scum voted meat yesterday.

On December 04 2014 00:22 batsnacks wrote:
I'm not really worried about being lynched tbf. If I get lynched before hopeless it won't be because of mistakes I made. And once hopeless flips mafia I think you'll have an easier time believing I'm town.

On December 04 2014 01:13 batsnacks wrote:


If meat is town aren't both scum voting him? Maybe not 100% but isn't that more likely? I would like to think that I made it easy to vote meat if someone wanted to.

On December 04 2014 01:33 batsnacks wrote:


I have lots of reads. "maybe but probably not" is not an accurate way to paraphrase what I said about meat.

On December 04 2014 06:54 batsnacks wrote:


Only like 1 of those things is actually scummy, the rest is stuff you don't understand/don't like.