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On November 19 2014 09:48 rsoultin wrote: /in Brand new. Think you may not have seen me :/ /in | ||
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Breshke vote comes off trying to pressure SL back into the game (which I believe is what was claimed). What value does a no-lynch vote hold? Avoiding hitting cop/doc or whatever? I tend to like some form of solid information, since at least three players are blowing smoke and sometimes others are too concerned about meta to be of much use. A lynch can get that solid info. Scummiest to me right now is Bats and/or Oats, though take that with a grain of salt because I'm not feeling strongly about anyone as scum at the moment. The back and forth over Kush and who is contributing what is very white noise. Lot of blah and little helpful being said. Could just be getting sidetracked, or the argument is possibly staged. ^ My take from reading this thread half-asleep. You guys waste no time; I'll give you that. | ||
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I don't mind answering real questions, but my reasoning was stated above, and most of your arguments are picking and choosing comments out of context. -shrugs- Be more specific or stop wasting my time with nonsense. | ||
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On November 25 2014 17:24 Oatsmaster wrote: Whats wrong with my reasoning on why bat's policy vote on kush is bad and his continuing badness with his vote on me and the circumstances surrounding that? You must elaborate. This I find worth answering. Neither you nor Bat have inherently bad reasoning why to vote or not to vote Kush. As I said above, it's the back and forth nothing argument that I protest to. | ||
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While being the scummiest of scum and prepping stakes for impalement... And poor little Oats whines about me saying he and Bats having a pointless argument for pages seems like the scummiest thing in this thread so far... I don't have solid scum reads. Unless you count myself. There are no Russian troops in Siberia (except lost on holiday). 'Nough said. Only ones I'd say for sure are reading town to me right now are HLT, Breshke and Trfel. HLT and Trfel bumbling too much to have an agenda. Breshke's using votes to force activity and none of his posts raised the red BS flag. The rest of you are suspect. Or...perhaps they're my partners in crime. Wait. Three of us. Hm. | ||
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On November 26 2014 02:31 Oatsmaster wrote: So I'm not a scum read rsoultin? Interesting. Why aren't you putting in effort to find scum since you have no scum reads? I don't see an inquisitive mindset from you. And you won't for at least another round or two. Why? 1. I'm still getting used to the way a real mafia site works. 2. You guys talk way too much air anyway, so I don't need to push you to talk more. 3. Right now it's mostly speculation, meta, bandwagoning and useless. Once actions start coming in you'll hear more from me. And you're still topping my lynch votes, Oats. Mostly because I find consistently misreading/picking and choosing half my posts to pay attention to and attack annoying. Without solid scum reads, I will go with the one that seems scummiest and is giving me a headache just to shut you up.  Cheers. | ||
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Now I know you want to push Breske for pushing you in the beginning, and I didn't jump on that bandwagon. But I'll concede that you may be town and just bad at this whole let's set a trap thing. (I mean, really, what were you expecting out of that?) It doesn't seem like a mafia move just cause it's too stupid. So I won't push you, bro.  On a sidenote, where is the meatpudding? He was all gungho yesterday, talking about all his spare time... | ||
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Coincidental maybe that you suddenly come in with a buttload of reads after I ask where you went and disappeared to, but that screams lurking to me. You've talked lynching policies a lot and got in early game on the sl, breske business defending breske's vote as not indicative of an alignment...and came out in favor of a no-lynch. Those by themselves aren't that significant. I don't see much value added the first day though. And the timing today...that's what really has me suspicious. Got a good reason for that? | ||
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On November 26 2014 09:54 meatpudding wrote: Not sure if you're saying I'm in favour of no-lynch? I haven't mentioned that, and I haven't voted yet either. As for the time, it's morning here. On that topic end of day is at 8am for me. Reread your posts and it was SLs comment on trying to lead town you were agreeing with, not the no-lynch suggestion. My bad. I'll accept the alibi for now. Still find the timing coincidental, but you were active at about this time yesterday, too. ##unvote | ||
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On November 26 2014 10:07 sicklucker wrote: Im pretty sure meat made a small 1 liner post you missed and he was already around. Also I do buy his Australian excuse No offense, dude, but you're wrong. Check the filter. Over 24 hours passed between when he asked HTS for a read on kush yesterday and his Marry/Bang/Kill list today, which was posted about a half hour after I asked where he'd gotten off to. The coincidence of the timing is legit. | ||
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I will be voting meatpudding tomorrow if he continues this lurking play with a difference in time zones as an excuse. It doesn't explain the timing of his responses adequately enough, the 24hr period in between, or why he's suddenly not participating in the thread again now that I removed my vote. In essence: unsatisfied. However, I do agree with you trfel that batsnacks comes off more scummy than oats, and if meatpudding clears his name I will join you on that lynch. The first thing I said was that one or both of those two seemed the scummiest. Arguments like that, from my limited experience, usually hide a mafia member trying to throw in confusion and seem "active" and "town". As far as batsnacks is concerned, the push on kush based solely on meta (which I disagree with on principle) and the way he appears to have incited that argument make me lean his way over oats. | ||
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What use is it really to push off a Day 1 lynch? Are you hoping for a cop read? Or that the mafia will kill someone and it will just be a stunning Eureka-moment revelation? Like as not, we'll be just as in the dark Day 2 as Day 1. At least with a lynch we'll have more information to go off of. That with your few posts of nothing makes me itchy. @meatpudding...your exchange with breske and reads over the last several hours have convinced me that the timing thing was genuinely coincidental. Your logic is pretty sound, too, though I don't agree with everything. For example...sicklucker. Yes, he is failing as a townie with all the half-assed reads and pointless "traps", but as a Day 1 lynch, that's weak. Even the comment about not being able to make a read because of ongoing games, while a possible smokescreen, is more likely legit. It doesn't take much to come up with reasons to say you think someone is scum or not, even if they're bad ones. I'd wait and see on him, personally. Still not happy with the bats/oats argument. If only because it hurt my head reading it and I want to hurt them back. Oats I'm reserving judgment on, however. The nitpicking might be his way of getting people to contradict themselves so he can feel them out, and he does keep trying to push the thread forward. @bats...I don't like you. It's a gut thing, nothing specific, but the argument and anyone telling me my vote is a good one like I'm a dog waiting for a treat and the approbation of master makes me want to dropkick you. Particularly since you didn't bother to clarify why you thought it was a good call. However...I'm not inclined to go with gut calls. My guts like to be wrong too often. So, bear with me, the ramble is almost done. Alakaslam I didn't like the moment I saw his posting. Too much fluff and nonsense, I hate having to read people's posts three times just to interpret [I]what[I] they were saying, yet alone the intent behind it. He had one post of any real worth, as far as I can tell, essentially saying that ambiguity doesn't help town...somewhere sprinkled in all that Kenpachi random voting nonsense...and yet that is exactly what he was doing. Being ambiguous. No need to add that he's disappeared from the game ever since. But I'll do so anyway just to round out the reasoning behind the vote. When scum reads are tentative at best and you don't have much solid to go on, I'm more than willing to get rid of someone who is useless anyway. <b>##vote Alakaslam</b> | ||
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Coding fail. | ||
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On November 27 2014 04:50 sicklucker wrote: Rsoutn make sure to change your vote if your push has no traction near the deadline I will do the same. I will policy lynch people who cast useless votes thats a mafia trait if Ive ever seen one. I am not afraid of you continuing to vote for me, SL, for this reason or any other reason that you can come up with. I am not going to be glued to the computer today. Celebrating the holidays with the fam. If I do get on and see the votes leaning a way that I don't think will benefit town, of course I will change my vote to lynch someone I believe is more likely scum...otherwise it doesn't even matter, now does it? Don't make me add you to my dropkick pile with bats. | ||
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On November 27 2014 03:42 LightningStrike wrote: I guess it just from having a bad experience from my last game that is the reason I trying to be more conservative about the Day 1 lynching. On the case on Dicksmash seems to be legitimately good from reading the case posted by kush and kush seems to be doing good reads this game. I really like the case for Dicksmash today since you (rsoultin) convinced me that it's to low of a chance of lynching a power role which I was originally why I was scared to lynch Day 1. ##Unvote ##Vote Dicksmash McIroncock Mods, he voted for Dick. Just saying. | ||
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Isn't there a mod-kill policy for people who don't vote? So why are we pushing anyone who still hasn't voted? | ||
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I will say that my opinions aren't strong enough to push any one person in particular, but there are a few who I definitely would not push. Dick's suspicious enough that I'm comfortable voting for him, since presumably even if he doesn't vote he'd still be lynched, rather than replaced, yes? ##unvote ##vote Dick | ||
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