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On November 02 2014 03:27 Holyflare wrote:
well damd is aldor then i dunno how obvious he wants to be but i think that probably takes him off the table... maybe
Well, assuming Damdred is aldor I don't think him using his ability is a tell outside of "damdred doesnt' want to die". If he's scum, he's using it because he's hoping we can't get a majority lynch together, and to save his ass. If he's town, he's using it because he doesn't want to get mislynched. It would have been a lot more interesting if someone ELSE had used the ability to save a lynch target-- that would give us more info once the target was flipped-- but someone saving themselves doesn't tell us much.
On November 02 2014 03:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like there's now a possiblity that we don't even GET a lynch. That move doesn't feel pro-town to me.
I get what you're getting at here, and that's a fair statement. But I don't think you're adequately looking at this from Damdred's point of view as a potential townie. If he's town, he's not like you or I, who are like the Ancient Liches of being town. Damdred might not get what the consequences of majority lynch or no-lynching are. Most importantly, he might feel he can push his own read in 24 hours, and he wants to avoid a no-lynch. I don't draw much info from this usage of a power, because it's self-serving. If someone else used it on Damdred, that would tell us more.
I'm not sure I get the damdred crumb, btw-- maybe someone coudl link me-- but if there's no real crumb, and no claim, that makes mafia involvement more likely. Someone silently extending D1 and added majority requirements to save damdred is probably playing against town. Soemone silently extneded D1 and adding majority requirements to save [i]himself[i] doesn't tell us about his alignment. Does that make sense?
On November 02 2014 03:30 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 03:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On November 02 2014 03:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like there's now a possiblity that we don't even GET a lynch. That move doesn't feel pro-town to me. Do you think that only scum gets that role? No that's not what I'm saying at all - I don't think what "cards" people are points to alignment at all. I think his USE of the power feels scummy as hell.
Yeah, but even a townie coudl panick and try to save himself, right?
On November 02 2014 03:31 Damdred wrote:
Sure, i'm up for lynch and in a 9 hour time frame I doubt I could put out enough content especially when a lot of the other people who look scummy to me are somewhat policy lynches in the case of miser, GB shouldn't be lynched today due to the fact of the biggest filter though still hasn't done anything they promised so theres that, and i'm trying to bounce ideas about jrkirby to get feedback while i'm writing my case.
So I really don't want to die as a power role i doubt i get nk'd because i'm a horrible towny, so its just lynch i have to avoid.
This is the part where you claim your role, usually, not where you use your roll like a punk then make vague allusions to it.
On November 02 2014 03:31 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 03:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like there's now a possiblity that we don't even GET a lynch. That move doesn't feel pro-town to me. Funny that you can to the thread just to say that. Seems opportunistic to me. Also, huge coincidence that thing happening and you coming in here, right?
dude what are you smoking, VE's point (at least the first part) is objectively correct
oh wait you're scum how could I forget
On November 02 2014 03:33 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 03:31 GlowingBear wrote:On November 02 2014 03:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like there's now a possiblity that we don't even GET a lynch. That move doesn't feel pro-town to me. Funny that you can to the thread just to say that. Seems opportunistic to me. Also, huge coincidence that thing happening and you coming in here, right? damd has claimed aldor so i have no idea what you are trying to say with your last line there and what ve is saying makes sense and damd is your like 100% scum read so wtf dude
interestingly, although I disagree with all of you about what Aldor means when used to save oneself, HF is spot-on in noticing yet another inconsistency in GB's reasoning (hint: GB is scum so all his reasoning is artificial). HF probably town.
On November 02 2014 03:37 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 03:34 Holyflare wrote:On November 02 2014 03:31 Damdred wrote:
Sure, i'm up for lynch and in a 9 hour time frame I doubt I could put out enough content especially when a lot of the other people who look scummy to me are somewhat policy lynches in the case of miser, GB shouldn't be lynched today due to the fact of the biggest filter though still hasn't done anything they promised so theres that, and i'm trying to bounce ideas about jrkirby to get feedback while i'm writing my case.
So I really don't want to die as a power role i doubt i get nk'd because i'm a horrible towny, so its just lynch i have to avoid. but where are your notes!?!??!?!?!?!?! I have notes, i'd rather not crap up the thread with them all and i have to get my computer going. which person would you like them on
dude this is literally the time to crap up the thread with your notes, what's wrong with you. What did you give us all this time for if not to read your "notes"? or are there no notes
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On November 02 2014 02:08 Damdred wrote:
1) I was asked why i townread someone I answered
2) I did copy paste notes its not that hard
2.1) Don't understand this? 2.2) I posted my notes soon as I dropped my wife off for work and came home 2.3) Nobody can require me to do anything someone asked me about a read and I gave them my notes, you did not take the opportunity you asked me if I was scum after I posted and i feel like being an asshole to you since I think your scum 2.4) Its not hard to copy posts I like into a page and then when I post put QUOTE around stuff...
3) I have 10 hours 9 now (or longer depending) to decide on who I think is a good lynch. kirby has a scum trait i pointed out.
This isn't good reasons to lynch someone
There is my crumb.
Then it happened, i did it
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On November 02 2014 07:31 jaybrundage wrote:What I find hilarious about all this is I basically used an entire South Park quote for the middle paragraph + Show Spoiler +On November 02 2014 06:39 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 02:44 Holyflare wrote:On November 02 2014 02:30 jaybrundage wrote:On November 02 2014 02:26 Holyflare wrote:
1) ObiWanShinobi <--- random town reads based off of almost nothing and talking about useless crap, talks about how much of a waste analysing jb is and then does it
5) risk.nuke - 0 posts 0 posts of content but is a "good player?" his quote btw
11) Alakaslam - never have any clue really
12) Blazinghand - probably scummiest mofo, excuse for being afk for a ridiculous amount of time (dinner????????) and then rng to fill in the gaps of "content", then NOT pushing his rng target like a mofo and no fake rng case content after that
13) Damdred - massive long post on why jay is town and then asked to post reads and didn't post anything else despite saying he had more notes, pretty scummy especially when jay is super borderline not town that i wanted to put him on this list
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Stop the shitty list post. I WANNA A CASE DAMMIT. Preferably one that you don't directly misrepresent things. i don't misrepresent anything you can quite literally say what you want but everyone else knows that what i said wasn't a misrepresentation and the only reason you're not on my list is the amount of butt hurt that you are displaying about it and the fact that you actually did something that wasn't talking about policy but it was on me so that's why you're close to being on my list again Hm weird Alakaslam said this so Show nested quote +On November 01 2014 04:14 Alakaslam wrote:
HF always likes to put words & intent into posts that weren't ever there.
Does this as both alignments. You should literally find out what "everyone" means. I can't wrap my head around the fact that you could do this as both alignments. It is such a scummy, mafia-esque trait. Here is an example of something you said that was distinctly wrong. I'm sure you will ignore it tho. Rofl you remind me of Cartman stealing Jimmy's joke and being completely oblivious to the truth. HF you really believe that you haven't been misrepresenting me at all this entire time. Oh my god, Wait, I totally get it now. All this time I have been mad at you HF for trying to misrepresent me. But now I realize that your ego has made you believe that things happened differently, that's what Alakaslam was trying to tell me. That you have such a huge ego that you do these mental gymnastics so you don't appear wrong. I thought you were intentionally being thick. But now I realize that some people have egos that are so out of wack. That no matter what people tell them. They can't accept the truth of what actually happened. HF I realize now that you can't help but think you never made a mistake, Because your ego won't let you think otherwise. Oh and btw and I couldn't give two craps if I'm almost on your list. You ARE still on my list. I have yet to see good reasons why you aren't scum. The only problem is that people that have played with you previously aren't getting any scum vibes. And as I have no previous experience playing with you that i can remember . I'm deferring to their judgement of you. and IT FITS SO DAMN WELL!! It's towards the end. click@HF I never assumed anything I asked a question to you about your post. Alakaslam made an assumption that sounded about right. If you have such a problem answer the damn question yourself. Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 06:42 Holyflare wrote:
It literally does not matter if i am wishy washy, "misrepresnting" or whatever. At the end of the day all i have to do is lead the town to lynch mafia and if you are posting about me representing YOU but then start posting about me town reading someone for their role when that didn't happen at all then all it does is make you look completely terrible. This is what I said Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 05:09 jaybrundage wrote:On November 02 2014 03:27 Holyflare wrote:
well damd is aldor then i dunno how obvious he wants to be but i think that probably takes him off the table... maybe Why? Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 05:21 jaybrundage wrote:On November 02 2014 05:20 Alakaslam wrote:On November 02 2014 05:09 jaybrundage wrote:On November 02 2014 03:27 Holyflare wrote:
well damd is aldor then i dunno how obvious he wants to be but i think that probably takes him off the table... maybe Why? He is under the impression that it cannot be a scum role. That's dumb But you somehow can make "Why?" and "That's dumb" Into JayBrundage "posting about (HF) town reading someone for their role when that didn't happen at all then all it does is make (JayBrundage) look completely terrible." That is the quote from HF I don't even know what to say. I said three things but he interpreted it into this drivel: JayBrundage "posting about (HF) town reading someone for their role when that didn't happen at all then all it does is make (JayBrundage) look completely terrible." Guys can we just lynch HF? Do people still think hes town at all?
Yes. Not only have I already explained WHY to the quote during the whole damdred discussion (which proves that you haven't read the game) but then you further agreed with slam saying something that was completely false (which proves that you haven't read the game). So yeh. It makes you look completely terrible that you are pushing this point further when you are so clearly in the wrong because you haven't caught up with the current events and i've already claimed a provable town role.
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On November 02 2014 03:39 GlowingBear wrote:
He could've made them by now.
C'mon.
yeah as much as I hate to say it, GB is correct here. Damdred coudl easily have posted his notes, and even gave us an extra day to read them. So... where are they?
On November 02 2014 03:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I already don't like a Damdred lynch.
y
On November 02 2014 03:45 Holyflare wrote:
i mean if he HAD these notes then why the fuck would he need to increase the day time because he's afraid of being lycnhed in 9 hours????? all he has to do is copy and paste them seeing as that's the reason people are lynching him for
^^ that's the best reason why he's scummy
HF telling it like it is
ugh, am I gonna end up voting damdred over GB? that woudl be such a garbage move. I hate when I have to be right instead of hilarious
On November 02 2014 03:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 03:44 Holyflare wrote:On November 02 2014 03:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I already don't like a Damdred lynch. you are literally useless so it's a good thing you have no sway if you want to be not useless can you explain why he makes a giant case on someone being towny and then says he just copied his notes but then refused to paste the rest of them?? I don't see how him not pasting his notes matters. I just don't see any of the things that he's done as coming from an exclusively scum mindset. I'd press for more spotlight and stuff but I'm still not entirely sure what's going on with this push. I'm perfectly willing to let things play out for now because I have work in like 30 minutes and we have plenty of time to talk regardless.
how could that possibly not matter. He just gave us time to not lynch him, and he supposedly has all these amazing notes, and now we have time to read them.... and where are they?
so they obviously don't exist, which is fine, but not if he's gonna keep on stringing us along and wasting our time.
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all this bh stuff looks pretty fake btw because reading the thread makes it all irrelevant
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so they obviously don't exist, which is fine, but not if he's gonna keep on stringing us along and wasting our time.
especially this line
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Yea it was good to start with but now hes commenting on stuff thats already been answered ugh
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Funny how you hard defend damdred
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On November 02 2014 07:39 Holyflare wrote:
who?
You.
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i just said his notes aligned with what i'm thinking and my list so no shit i'd defend him if i think he's towny?
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have you got short term memory loss? i defended lian and robik from your crappy anti-town reads last game and was correct and pushed for all the mafia and also did the same thing in fantasy 1 where i defended lian and damd and was correct and pushed for all the mafia
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On November 02 2014 07:40 Holyflare wrote:
i just said his notes aligned with what i'm thinking and my list so no shit i'd defend him if i think he's towny?
That makes him town, I suppose.
Scum can't have similar reads to townies, right?
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On October 26 2014 11:23 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2014 11:21 Holyflare wrote:
Perfect game i guess doubt we have 3 blues vs 3 mafia and if thrawn was lying it would just be a 1 for 1 trade Idc, I'll just shut up and completely sheep you
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On November 02 2014 07:42 Holyflare wrote:
have you got short term memory loss? i defended lian and robik from your crappy anti-town reads last game and was correct and pushed for all the mafia and also did the same thing in fantasy 1 where i defended lian and damd and was correct and pushed for all the mafia
Well, this is not the game here, so that doesn't help me.
Anyway, you can continue arguing with BH.
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On November 02 2014 07:42 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 07:40 Holyflare wrote:
i just said his notes aligned with what i'm thinking and my list so no shit i'd defend him if i think he's towny? That makes him town, I suppose. Scum can't have similar reads to townies, right?
not generally no they always have whacky outlying reads
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like the only reason you pushed damdred is that he didn't have his notes and he's 100% scum for it (much like bh, ve etc etc) and now he has his notes and i'm "hard defending" someone you shouldn't even be scum reading anymore
like wtf?
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Blazinghand
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On November 02 2014 03:54 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 03:31 Damdred wrote:
Sure, i'm up for lynch and in a 9 hour time frame I doubt I could put out enough content especially when a lot of the other people who look scummy to me are somewhat policy lynches in the case of miser, GB shouldn't be lynched today due to the fact of the biggest filter though still hasn't done anything they promised so theres that, and i'm trying to bounce ideas about jrkirby to get feedback while i'm writing my case.
So I really don't want to die as a power role i doubt i get nk'd because i'm a horrible towny, so its just lynch i have to avoid. He is already predicting he is not going to be the night kill. Damdred, why did you use your power?
I think he meant, "if i didn't claim, and also managed to avoid the d1 lynch, I wouldn't get nked since i look like shit, and then I'd get lynched d2".
On November 02 2014 03:56 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 03:45 Holyflare wrote:
i mean if he HAD these notes then why the fuck would he need to increase the day time because he's afraid of being lycnhed in 9 hours????? all he has to do is copy and paste them seeing as that's the reason people are lynching him for
^^ that's the best reason why he's scummy
yup
On November 02 2014 04:00 Damdred wrote:+ Show Spoiler +ObiWanShinobi- Overall feeling no clue. Can never figure out Obis meta, but he seems town. The posts http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=19#366seems a good mindset to have http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=19#376http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=33#659Has tangible thought behind what he does. Compare it to Storm Mafia 2, or the game where he was scum that yamato did hes pretty towny and his mindset seems ok just wish he would give more content. LT- Null right now, his posts overall have been pretty trolly. Could possibly be mafia Jaybrundage- (notes redacted already in thread) Blazinghand- seems to be inactive leaning more towards scum meta with excuses to seem active. 10 hour dinner, next thing he will be posting boxes. Slam- I need to learn how to read him better, no clue Seuss- This guy seems pretty town currently, some concerns with the way he just hands out a few townreads but puts good pressure on me to give reads http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23207450backs it up witih a vote. Could be scum looking for a good mislynch but leaning town currently. risk.nuke- no clue inactiveish VE- Not sure content seems sparse compared to other games. Gives townreads without much explanaiton http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=21#408Says go after risk.nuke lurker Not opinonated like normal, this ve could be mafia Liancourt- Jokey about being scum but can't remember much. HF- looks like hf from ffl, look more into d2 Ritoky- Town http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=26#506http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=26#508http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=27#528pressures people follows it up, doesn't just focus on less visible people and shows a willingness to lynch people regardless even if they have the biggest filter Misder- Fished for roles, could be scum not sure seems pretty lurky. Circumstance- Possible scum http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=10#198Shows a bi tto much knoweldge could be a misinterpretatio by me. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=32#638Doesn't have a ton of reads showing and most of it is pretty easy to back off of. GB- (redacted thoughts are in thread) Jrkirby- (redacted in another file working on case) Oats- Brings attention to himself with fighting GB, can't really read oats well. He seems to have some thoughts and pushes gb and others, I think hes pretty towny but not sure. lets see if i did it right
So damdred, your "notes" are a list post and they are:
OWS null
LT null
JB ... redacted
BH ... scum? inactive?
slam: null
seuss: town
risk: null
VE: null/scum
Laincourt: scum
HF: scum
Ritoky: hmm, this is an ok town read. should have tracked followups to the questions in post 1 and post 2.
more nnull reads and shit
this is liek the worst list post ever. I would never organize notes liek this.
here, here is what my notes look like:
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that's an example of good notetaking. In any case, damdred's notes are like, a travesty against notehood.
on the other hand, I actually don't really care if damdred gets lynched or not any more. Somehow, my interest in lynching him has gone way down since he posted his notes. REading them is... somehow, it's like, depressing. It lowers my energy level. I can'gt even accurately quantify it, but it's like... it's like that feeling of being in bed and not wanting to talk to anyone. The mental version of physical exhaustion, or being tired of exposure to... damdred.
honestly I usually feel this zeal to lynch people, and i just can't, erm, "get it up" for damdred. it being my zeal, of course. It seems like objectively I should want to lynch him for this list post that's pretending to be notes, but it's-- it's so half-assed. Shit man, I can't even deal with this. I'll formulate my read on him based on future things.
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On November 02 2014 07:35 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 07:31 jaybrundage wrote:What I find hilarious about all this is I basically used an entire South Park quote for the middle paragraph + Show Spoiler +On November 02 2014 06:39 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 02:44 Holyflare wrote:On November 02 2014 02:30 jaybrundage wrote:On November 02 2014 02:26 Holyflare wrote:
1) ObiWanShinobi <--- random town reads based off of almost nothing and talking about useless crap, talks about how much of a waste analysing jb is and then does it
5) risk.nuke - 0 posts 0 posts of content but is a "good player?" his quote btw
11) Alakaslam - never have any clue really
12) Blazinghand - probably scummiest mofo, excuse for being afk for a ridiculous amount of time (dinner????????) and then rng to fill in the gaps of "content", then NOT pushing his rng target like a mofo and no fake rng case content after that
13) Damdred - massive long post on why jay is town and then asked to post reads and didn't post anything else despite saying he had more notes, pretty scummy especially when jay is super borderline not town that i wanted to put him on this list
potential people to add:
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jay
tolkien
Stop the shitty list post. I WANNA A CASE DAMMIT. Preferably one that you don't directly misrepresent things. i don't misrepresent anything you can quite literally say what you want but everyone else knows that what i said wasn't a misrepresentation and the only reason you're not on my list is the amount of butt hurt that you are displaying about it and the fact that you actually did something that wasn't talking about policy but it was on me so that's why you're close to being on my list again Hm weird Alakaslam said this so Show nested quote +On November 01 2014 04:14 Alakaslam wrote:
HF always likes to put words & intent into posts that weren't ever there.
Does this as both alignments. You should literally find out what "everyone" means. I can't wrap my head around the fact that you could do this as both alignments. It is such a scummy, mafia-esque trait. Here is an example of something you said that was distinctly wrong. I'm sure you will ignore it tho. Rofl you remind me of Cartman stealing Jimmy's joke and being completely oblivious to the truth. HF you really believe that you haven't been misrepresenting me at all this entire time. Oh my god, Wait, I totally get it now. All this time I have been mad at you HF for trying to misrepresent me. But now I realize that your ego has made you believe that things happened differently, that's what Alakaslam was trying to tell me. That you have such a huge ego that you do these mental gymnastics so you don't appear wrong. I thought you were intentionally being thick. But now I realize that some people have egos that are so out of wack. That no matter what people tell them. They can't accept the truth of what actually happened. HF I realize now that you can't help but think you never made a mistake, Because your ego won't let you think otherwise. Oh and btw and I couldn't give two craps if I'm almost on your list. You ARE still on my list. I have yet to see good reasons why you aren't scum. The only problem is that people that have played with you previously aren't getting any scum vibes. And as I have no previous experience playing with you that i can remember . I'm deferring to their judgement of you. and IT FITS SO DAMN WELL!! It's towards the end. click@HF I never assumed anything I asked a question to you about your post. Alakaslam made an assumption that sounded about right. If you have such a problem answer the damn question yourself. On November 02 2014 06:42 Holyflare wrote:
It literally does not matter if i am wishy washy, "misrepresnting" or whatever. At the end of the day all i have to do is lead the town to lynch mafia and if you are posting about me representing YOU but then start posting about me town reading someone for their role when that didn't happen at all then all it does is make you look completely terrible. This is what I said On November 02 2014 05:09 jaybrundage wrote:On November 02 2014 03:27 Holyflare wrote:
well damd is aldor then i dunno how obvious he wants to be but i think that probably takes him off the table... maybe Why? On November 02 2014 05:21 jaybrundage wrote:On November 02 2014 05:20 Alakaslam wrote:On November 02 2014 05:09 jaybrundage wrote:On November 02 2014 03:27 Holyflare wrote:
well damd is aldor then i dunno how obvious he wants to be but i think that probably takes him off the table... maybe Why? He is under the impression that it cannot be a scum role. That's dumb But you somehow can make "Why?" and "That's dumb" Into JayBrundage "posting about (HF) town reading someone for their role when that didn't happen at all then all it does is make (JayBrundage) look completely terrible." That is the quote from HF I don't even know what to say. I said three things but he interpreted it into this drivel: JayBrundage "posting about (HF) town reading someone for their role when that didn't happen at all then all it does is make (JayBrundage) look completely terrible." Guys can we just lynch HF? Do people still think hes town at all? Yes. Not only have I already explained WHY to the quote during the whole damdred discussion (which proves that you haven't read the game) but then you further agreed with slam saying something that was completely false (which proves that you haven't read the game). So yeh. It makes you look completely terrible that you are pushing this point further when you are so clearly in the wrong because you haven't caught up with the current events and i've already claimed a provable town role.
Not sure why I even respond to you cartman. And either prove it or stop yapping about your provable town role
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gb you don't even mention obi hard defending damd BEFORE HE EVEN POSTED HIS LIST which is pretty bad if you're going to accuse people of hard defending and make associations
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