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On November 01 2014 09:08 Blazinghand wrote:
The Post count for my RNG declaration post was 23206369
23206369 mod 17 = 9
9th player is glowingbear
##vote GlowingBEAR
GB, your lynch has been determined by RNG. SUBMIT YOURSELF UNTO DEATH.
hey remember when me u and obi discussed this shit about RNG in our last game that was so fucking funny and ur doing it again lmao
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oh my gosh, people didnt read the game where rng lynch worked.
I would be more of a fan if BH opened with the RNG bullshit but he didnt so im not.
VE is town yay. ..
I would rather lynch risk, I dont see the point in analysing him, its not gonna be much anyway.
2 hours left.
##Analyse: Jay
More of a coin flip right now.
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Why is Jay a coinflip?
I don't understand.
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On November 01 2014 09:35 jrkirby wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2014 09:23 Blazinghand wrote:On November 01 2014 09:20 jrkirby wrote:
BH why didn't you let us discuss rng lynch before culculating the rng so we can tell if anybody changes their mind about rng based on the outcome of it? This is a fair question. The fact of the matter is, every rng lynch discussion that doesn't roll the dice goes like this. People basically vaguely talk about how rng is not great, or talk about stats about historical rng, or whatever. Nobody gets invested, nobody cares, nobody gives away reads, nobody is under pressure, and nobody gets lynched. Take a look at the low tier policy talk in ANY game. What makes me, and my RNG, different, is that it selects a target before people discuss whether it's good or not. Now scum are on the line. Now they suddenly feel a need to justify or NOT justify voting for or not voting for GB, who is probably their scumbuddy. They're in a tough spot and it absolutely wrecks scumteams. I'm different than most people, jrkirby. Most people don't policy. Most people don't have the rock-hard, cast-iron BALLS to push policy like I do. Policy isn't REAL unless you're willing to go balls to the wall to lynch your policy target. And by jove, I WILL lynch GB, just as I've lynched so many others with the power of RNG. It is inevitable. I guess this is fair enough to me. I have a slight town-lean read on GB, but I think RNG can be very powerful day 1. If anyone trys RNG after day one, I will want to lynch you though. So I'm going to drop my slight town read on GB and my vote on the unproductive LT in favor of the power of RNG. This is a hearthstone flavored game here. Just so everyone knows, this is a vote for RNG, not for GB in particular. BY FIRE BE PURGED. + Show Spoiler +Cause Ragnaros has a random target, yeah?
really? ur going to vote RNG, the person who has been driving convo along? For real?
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On November 01 2014 09:37 Alakaslam wrote:
Plus GlowingBear is not like OO
He will not quit
bh said he likes the victims to squirm a bit before they die. i wonder what case bh comes up with lol
But cmon this is just wrong.
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On November 01 2014 12:43 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2014 09:35 jrkirby wrote:On November 01 2014 09:23 Blazinghand wrote:On November 01 2014 09:20 jrkirby wrote:
BH why didn't you let us discuss rng lynch before culculating the rng so we can tell if anybody changes their mind about rng based on the outcome of it? This is a fair question. The fact of the matter is, every rng lynch discussion that doesn't roll the dice goes like this. People basically vaguely talk about how rng is not great, or talk about stats about historical rng, or whatever. Nobody gets invested, nobody cares, nobody gives away reads, nobody is under pressure, and nobody gets lynched. Take a look at the low tier policy talk in ANY game. What makes me, and my RNG, different, is that it selects a target before people discuss whether it's good or not. Now scum are on the line. Now they suddenly feel a need to justify or NOT justify voting for or not voting for GB, who is probably their scumbuddy. They're in a tough spot and it absolutely wrecks scumteams. I'm different than most people, jrkirby. Most people don't policy. Most people don't have the rock-hard, cast-iron BALLS to push policy like I do. Policy isn't REAL unless you're willing to go balls to the wall to lynch your policy target. And by jove, I WILL lynch GB, just as I've lynched so many others with the power of RNG. It is inevitable. I guess this is fair enough to me. I have a slight town-lean read on GB, but I think RNG can be very powerful day 1. If anyone trys RNG after day one, I will want to lynch you though. So I'm going to drop my slight town read on GB and my vote on the unproductive LT in favor of the power of RNG. This is a hearthstone flavored game here. Just so everyone knows, this is a vote for RNG, not for GB in particular. BY FIRE BE PURGED. + Show Spoiler +Cause Ragnaros has a random target, yeah? really? ur going to vote RNG, the person who has been driving convo along? For real?
For some reason I recalled reading that RNG had a better chance or lynching scum day 1 than the average game. When challenged to find a source for this, I found something that said it's true, but only for newbie games. Check my filter for the link. I changed my opinion on RNG after that.
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On November 01 2014 09:42 Circumstance wrote:
So, we have GB as a call for the D1 backup, and some people seem to be jumping onboard for risk.nuke. I've read the case for lynching risk.nuke, and I'm not yet completely sold. I don't have a solid read on him yet, so can anyone give me a reason we should lynch someone else INSTEAD of risk.nuke?
is there a case for risk? He's a lurker. The end. You're ok with having GB as a backup lynch when he's been carrying the discussion when risk has done absolutely nothing? The mind boggles. Scummy
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On November 01 2014 12:28 Circumstance wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2014 11:31 jaybrundage wrote:
Circumstance giving that your reason for holding on to your reads isn't necessary there can not be a No-Lynch. I would like you to put who you suspect on the table. Echoing GB Even if your reads are half baked it helps to see your thought process and how you arrived there. I do have some questions for you as well.
You bring up risk.nuke what's your reasoning for wanting to lynch him?
How do you feel about Oats? Do you still think hes worth analyzing? What's your read on him?
LT has quite a bit of votes on him but you haven't mentioned him as a candidate. Why is that?
Who is your ideal lynch candidate?
I'll go over the questions first, since I need to do a proper filter runthrough before I go on with reads. I've been going mainly on instinct since I went to bed last night. I brought up risk.nuke because I noticed a push towards him, and given that I was assuming a majority requirement, I figured it would be pertinent to nail someone down quickly. Oats still feels like he's not really helping move things along. Holyflare's assessment of him mimics my thoughts to a certain extent. I think he's definitely worth an analysis, because he just doesn't seem to make sense right now. LT seemed like a placeholder more than anything - the rationale of voting seemed to be mainly "eh, no big loss if we're wrong." And I did see a few posts indicating that people were planning on unvoting him (though that evidently didn't wind up happening in the thread itself). If it were up to me, I had the power to off one player straight away, I wouldn't be prepared to do so just yet. I'm not seeing something I can put together and say "Yes, this player is definitely ideal to lynch today", so with the time we have, I'd like for us all to get a stronger case put together on someone.
it's like seeing myself in my first game.
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On November 01 2014 12:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Why is Jay a coinflip?
I don't understand.
I dont know his alignment but he posted a decent amount leading to a more consistent read by an outside party
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On November 01 2014 13:08 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2014 12:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Why is Jay a coinflip?
I don't understand. I dont know his alignment but he posted a decent amount leading to a more consistent read by an outside party
Ha I'll show you no one can read the Best Mislynch NA MWAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAH+ Show Spoiler +
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On November 01 2014 12:28 Circumstance wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2014 11:31 jaybrundage wrote:
Circumstance giving that your reason for holding on to your reads isn't necessary there can not be a No-Lynch. I would like you to put who you suspect on the table. Echoing GB Even if your reads are half baked it helps to see your thought process and how you arrived there. I do have some questions for you as well.
You bring up risk.nuke what's your reasoning for wanting to lynch him?
How do you feel about Oats? Do you still think hes worth analyzing? What's your read on him?
LT has quite a bit of votes on him but you haven't mentioned him as a candidate. Why is that?
Who is your ideal lynch candidate?
I'll go over the questions first, since I need to do a proper filter runthrough before I go on with reads. I've been going mainly on instinct since I went to bed last night. I brought up risk.nuke because I noticed a push towards him, and given that I was assuming a majority requirement, I figured it would be pertinent to nail someone down quickly. Oats still feels like he's not really helping move things along. Holyflare's assessment of him mimics my thoughts to a certain extent. I think he's definitely worth an analysis, because he just doesn't seem to make sense right now. LT seemed like a placeholder more than anything - the rationale of voting seemed to be mainly "eh, no big loss if we're wrong." And I did see a few posts indicating that people were planning on unvoting him (though that evidently didn't wind up happening in the thread itself). If it were up to me, I had the power to off one player straight away, I wouldn't be prepared to do so just yet. I'm not seeing something I can put together and say "Yes, this player is definitely ideal to lynch today", so with the time we have, I'd like for us all to get a stronger case put together on someone.
So the biggest thing I think I got from your post is that your unsure about anyone's alignment as of yet. Disappointing but as we are in the first day not very surprising either.
However as noted by the Bold it seems that your very willing to sheep the thread. Do you plan to just go with the majority?Do you have a player that you strongly consider town and would be willing to follow?
Also I would be fine lynching LT. While he is not reeking of mafia. His continuous lack of contributions are becoming more and more telling. He also seems to not be bothered with the vote majority on him atm and shows no signs of improving.
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On November 01 2014 13:08 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2014 12:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Why is Jay a coinflip?
I don't understand. I dont know his alignment but he posted a decent amount leading to a more consistent read by an outside party
Fair enough, I guess.
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On November 01 2014 12:29 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2014 08:29 ritoky wrote:
VE, I think your original post accusing risk was not as directed as what you just recently said as what you are letting on. I think the emphasis was less so on how mafia find it easy to talk about 3rd party and such, and moreso directed toward him fucking off after that's the only thing he has done. I don't disagree with you, I just think that you and GB are probably two town fighting.
JayB, that case on HF is bad.....as was your list of quote case earlier....
Also, we should probably get some consensus on the analysis soon.
I was thinking about it a bit: 1) the cat sounds like foolishness.
2) still don't know if the cat does what it says
3) does the cat just make a case on someone based on the content in the thread or does it get additional information?
I think in 1 of our 2 cycles we might want to potentially use it on a complete lurker to see if the cat get's additional information outside of posts. Because if it doesn't....it doesn't exactly seem extremely useful outside of just being another person with an unknown objective. i agree to test this cat we should use it on a lurker to see if it gives additional info. I think atm risk.nuke is the primary lurker so ##Analyze risk.nuke
You must of missed this. Using this on a lurker (if you do plan to use it) would be a waste.
On November 01 2014 00:02 Mr. Bigglesworth wrote:
To clarify things:
I am a player from outside the game. I was summoned by a townie who I must keep in secret.
I'll analyse a player as any player would. This means I will read the thread, focus on that player's posts, and say what I think about him, i.e., make a case.
Talking about me will lead nowhere. I am town aligned but I'm not a killable player. Which means you will gain nothing trying to know who I am or if I am town, mafia or 3rd party, for I'm none.
This is my last post until the first analysis. Meow.
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On November 01 2014 13:29 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2014 12:29 liancourt wrote:On November 01 2014 08:29 ritoky wrote:
VE, I think your original post accusing risk was not as directed as what you just recently said as what you are letting on. I think the emphasis was less so on how mafia find it easy to talk about 3rd party and such, and moreso directed toward him fucking off after that's the only thing he has done. I don't disagree with you, I just think that you and GB are probably two town fighting.
JayB, that case on HF is bad.....as was your list of quote case earlier....
Also, we should probably get some consensus on the analysis soon.
I was thinking about it a bit: 1) the cat sounds like foolishness.
2) still don't know if the cat does what it says
3) does the cat just make a case on someone based on the content in the thread or does it get additional information?
I think in 1 of our 2 cycles we might want to potentially use it on a complete lurker to see if the cat get's additional information outside of posts. Because if it doesn't....it doesn't exactly seem extremely useful outside of just being another person with an unknown objective. i agree to test this cat we should use it on a lurker to see if it gives additional info. I think atm risk.nuke is the primary lurker so ##Analyze risk.nuke You must of missed this. Using this on a lurker (if you do plan to use it) would be a waste. Show nested quote +On November 01 2014 00:02 Mr. Bigglesworth wrote:
To clarify things:
I am a player from outside the game. I was summoned by a townie who I must keep in secret.
I'll analyse a player as any player would. This means I will read the thread, focus on that player's posts, and say what I think about him, i.e., make a case.
Talking about me will lead nowhere. I am town aligned but I'm not a killable player. Which means you will gain nothing trying to know who I am or if I am town, mafia or 3rd party, for I'm none.
This is my last post until the first analysis. Meow.
fuck my life.
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Obi I thought you were gonna come back and talk about stuff. Shoot. Who's your scum read?
@ Liancourt. I noticed that you seem to comment on a lot of things and often ask questions. Liking it so far. I am not sure who your top scum read is tho. Do you have anyone picked out?
I would ideally like to get each person to set up a position on who they would like to lynch. The day is half over, What would suck is if at the end of the day we have people with poorly defined positions who just can pile on any bandwagon with little reasoning and because of that let scum influence the lynch.
I'm not posting this just to try to give scum a hard time. Townies do this shit too and it makes it harder to sift thru the drivel after a lynch.
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And for clarification purposes after my @Liancourt paragraph I was talking to the whole thread.
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misder is my top scum atm reasons are in my previous post
dont think he's posted anything since then.
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On November 01 2014 13:29 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2014 12:29 liancourt wrote:On November 01 2014 08:29 ritoky wrote:
VE, I think your original post accusing risk was not as directed as what you just recently said as what you are letting on. I think the emphasis was less so on how mafia find it easy to talk about 3rd party and such, and moreso directed toward him fucking off after that's the only thing he has done. I don't disagree with you, I just think that you and GB are probably two town fighting.
JayB, that case on HF is bad.....as was your list of quote case earlier....
Also, we should probably get some consensus on the analysis soon.
I was thinking about it a bit: 1) the cat sounds like foolishness.
2) still don't know if the cat does what it says
3) does the cat just make a case on someone based on the content in the thread or does it get additional information?
I think in 1 of our 2 cycles we might want to potentially use it on a complete lurker to see if the cat get's additional information outside of posts. Because if it doesn't....it doesn't exactly seem extremely useful outside of just being another person with an unknown objective. i agree to test this cat we should use it on a lurker to see if it gives additional info. I think atm risk.nuke is the primary lurker so ##Analyze risk.nuke You must of missed this. Using this on a lurker (if you do plan to use it) would be a waste. Show nested quote +On November 01 2014 00:02 Mr. Bigglesworth wrote:
To clarify things:
I am a player from outside the game. I was summoned by a townie who I must keep in secret.
I'll analyse a player as any player would. This means I will read the thread, focus on that player's posts, and say what I think about him, i.e., make a case.
Talking about me will lead nowhere. I am town aligned but I'm not a killable player. Which means you will gain nothing trying to know who I am or if I am town, mafia or 3rd party, for I'm none.
This is my last post until the first analysis. Meow.
Why do you trust and believe the cat before it has even done anything? Cuz no one has ever lied in a mafia game right?
And how is it a waste? How do you know the cat doesn't have more information? If you use it on a lurker with nearly no content and the cat comes back with something more; it potentially has more info, if it says idk, then it is basically useless since it just distributes an opinion from a source who's motive we don't know. I don't see how that is a useless proposition in the slightest. The fact that you have 0 skepticism over this shit doesn't reflect a townie mindset.
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The dichotomy between lian/Circumstance is something I'm looking at. I really don't like how lian nitpicks at one of Circumstance's posts and then turns around and then says "hey, it reminds me of when I was new."
When you're new, you end up leaving a ton of holes in your game that people can pick at, which is what I've seen in Circumstance's play. (not having enough scumreads, putting quite a bit of emphasis on setup, etc)
You'd think that would mean you would put more effort into figuring that player out instead of just pushing a tiny thing like that, but I guess lian doesn't feel like doing that. I find it strange.
On November 01 2014 13:51 liancourt wrote:
misder is my top scum atm reasons are in my previous post
dont think he's posted anything since then.
Where do you stand on Circumstance?
Also, the analysis thing on Jay is a waste of time because he's town. I'm not going to elaborate on this because the cat is going to explain it for you. On the off chance that the cat is actually controlled by 3p or mafia, I can compare my read to whatever it gives us and see if it's actually a town entity or not by seeing if it agrees with me.
##Analyze: JB
I kind of realized that I contradicted myself in that paragraph, but w/e it's fine don't think about it.
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On November 01 2014 00:50 Seuss wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2014 22:47 Holyflare wrote:On October 31 2014 15:08 Seuss wrote:
He basically jumped hard on the first person to post anything remotely suspicious. The post in question wasn't fantastic but it seemed really opportunistic to me. so you admit that it's at least remotely suspicious and that he drove the discussion forward on this point, why is it scummy then? Emphasis on remote, and emphasis on the opportunism. jrkirby's post was pretty useless and as part of a larger case I'd accept it as a point against him, but on it's own it's the sort of thing I see Town players do all the time when the rest of the game is still joking around. It's an easy pitch to swing at to try and grab some town cred if you're scum.
this is monte regarding his opinion on gb. It's the only content worthy thing in his filter. I can see where he's coming from, but gb has done much more so I'm hoping monte posts if he still thinks of gb this way still.
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