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On October 31 2014 14:32 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2014 14:31 jaybrundage wrote:On October 31 2014 14:19 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 31 2014 13:59 jaybrundage wrote: Wait guys I just had an idea what if Mr.Bigglesworth is actually part of Kulthazard as a third party. Who's job is to eliminate the horde cause in that case we should never give votes to the cat. As it can't help us find scum. As horde is not indicative of Mafia Alignment. I dont see why doing a side objective could be bad in any way. Not sure what you mean by side objective. It could hurt us however as third party could glean information to win the game and it would make town lose. Hm thinking about it if horde could be both mafia and town then the third party would be indifferent to helping either of us. hm If third party wins does it mean that town and mafia lose? or does third party win condition, have an objective they have to fufill so they can win with either Mafia or town? Sorry if I didnt make my question clear. I dont know too much about third party in mafia set ups. Show nested quote +Town Win Condition: You win when all anti-town threats have been eliminated. Mafia Win Condition: You win when all threats to the mafia team are eliminated or nothing prevents this from happening. Third Party Win Condition: ??? read op before playing, come back and post content, kk? The OP didn't answer my question. But based on the context of your post im guessing that you are implying that they wont answer my question.
Tell me this then if your knowledgeable on set ups. For the most part are things that are "Third Party" win to the exclusion town and mafia.
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On October 31 2014 14:28 Holyflare wrote: also LT completely different and i mean COMPLETELY different from his fanfic game and all he's done is talk about useless things that the op contradicts (alignment/role stuff) and wants to lynch/joke lynch me based off of something when he knows that im busy doing something else (he came and saw me playing league) also super weird unvote after gb made a post and then disappearing 20 points to gryffindor
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talking about the cat (aka policy) is a great way for mafia to blend in and is essentially complete wifom (useless because it could be scenario A, B or C) so really you're speculating about nothing and avoiding talking about scummy posts and what you think of other people because you are concentrating on something that doesn't help find mafia
which is what mafia love to do
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On October 31 2014 14:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Good to know that HF and Oats are town this game.
how'd you come to this conclusion?
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On October 31 2014 14:40 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2014 14:32 Holyflare wrote:On October 31 2014 14:31 jaybrundage wrote:On October 31 2014 14:19 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 31 2014 13:59 jaybrundage wrote: Wait guys I just had an idea what if Mr.Bigglesworth is actually part of Kulthazard as a third party. Who's job is to eliminate the horde cause in that case we should never give votes to the cat. As it can't help us find scum. As horde is not indicative of Mafia Alignment. I dont see why doing a side objective could be bad in any way. Not sure what you mean by side objective. It could hurt us however as third party could glean information to win the game and it would make town lose. Hm thinking about it if horde could be both mafia and town then the third party would be indifferent to helping either of us. hm If third party wins does it mean that town and mafia lose? or does third party win condition, have an objective they have to fufill so they can win with either Mafia or town? Sorry if I didnt make my question clear. I dont know too much about third party in mafia set ups. Town Win Condition: You win when all anti-town threats have been eliminated. Mafia Win Condition: You win when all threats to the mafia team are eliminated or nothing prevents this from happening. Third Party Win Condition: ??? read op before playing, come back and post content, kk? The OP didn't answer my question. But based on the context of your post im guessing that you are implying that they wont answer my question. Tell me this then if your knowledgeable on set ups. For the most part are things that are "Third Party" win to the exclusion town and mafia.
are you ever going to talk about people and what you think of them in this game?
3p could be win with any alignment, win with 1 of the alignments, win alone, there could be multiple 3p conditions?! who knows in this game????
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On October 31 2014 14:40 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2014 14:32 Holyflare wrote:On October 31 2014 14:31 jaybrundage wrote:On October 31 2014 14:19 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 31 2014 13:59 jaybrundage wrote: Wait guys I just had an idea what if Mr.Bigglesworth is actually part of Kulthazard as a third party. Who's job is to eliminate the horde cause in that case we should never give votes to the cat. As it can't help us find scum. As horde is not indicative of Mafia Alignment. I dont see why doing a side objective could be bad in any way. Not sure what you mean by side objective. It could hurt us however as third party could glean information to win the game and it would make town lose. Hm thinking about it if horde could be both mafia and town then the third party would be indifferent to helping either of us. hm If third party wins does it mean that town and mafia lose? or does third party win condition, have an objective they have to fufill so they can win with either Mafia or town? Sorry if I didnt make my question clear. I dont know too much about third party in mafia set ups. Town Win Condition: You win when all anti-town threats have been eliminated. Mafia Win Condition: You win when all threats to the mafia team are eliminated or nothing prevents this from happening. Third Party Win Condition: ??? read op before playing, come back and post content, kk? The OP didn't answer my question. But based on the context of your post im guessing that you are implying that they wont answer my question. Tell me this then if your knowledgeable on set ups. For the most part are things that are "Third Party" win to the exclusion town and mafia.
Yes and/or no.
There's no way for you to know unless you're third party and third party isn't going to talk about their wincon. It's pointless speculation so stop dragging it out.
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On October 31 2014 14:40 Lord Tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2014 14:28 Holyflare wrote: also LT completely different and i mean COMPLETELY different from his fanfic game and all he's done is talk about useless things that the op contradicts (alignment/role stuff) and wants to lynch/joke lynch me based off of something when he knows that im busy doing something else (he came and saw me playing league) also super weird unvote after gb made a post and then disappearing 20 points to gryffindor Dude all of your posts srsly suck you haven't even tried to engage in conversation with anyone. Every. Single. One. is just trash. and completely unrelated to the thread.
##Vote Lord Tolkien
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On October 31 2014 14:28 Misder wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2014 14:19 Holyflare wrote: misder is there anything you hoped to achieve by asking if gb's vote was in the right format? and why obi when he's in a similar 0 content boat as like 4 other ppl No - I just want to confirm there are no shenanigans going on. It really should be a quick yes or no - not something to get a read on. Obviously, it wasn't just a quick yes or no lol. I didn't consider any of the people that didn't post at all - I think using it on other people that posted, but not really (and ppl I did not get a town tell on) is a fine first use, and saying ObiWanShinobi makes it so that we have a target instead of lolidadiling(sp?) since we need majority vote if we really do want to use it. Why OWS rather than the 3 other non content people though.
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you just quoted his answer oats
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the people that have posted once or twice but nothing of value is what he's saying
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On October 31 2014 14:31 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2014 14:19 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 31 2014 13:59 jaybrundage wrote: Wait guys I just had an idea what if Mr.Bigglesworth is actually part of Kulthazard as a third party. Who's job is to eliminate the horde cause in that case we should never give votes to the cat. As it can't help us find scum. As horde is not indicative of Mafia Alignment. I dont see why doing a side objective could be bad in any way. Not sure what you mean by side objective. It could hurt us however as third party could glean information to win the game and it would make town lose. Hm thinking about it if horde could be both mafia and town then the third party would be indifferent to helping either of us. hm If third party wins does it mean that town and mafia lose? or does third party win condition, have an objective they have to fufill so they can win with either Mafia or town? Sorry if I didnt make my question clear. I dont know too much about third party in mafia set ups. 3p either wins alone or with town or with scum.
So yeahhhhhhhhh basically nothing.
I think its way more likely that this helps us rather than hurting us, more info good for town cause of the info imbalance between town and mafia. IGNORE 3P.
Interesting that you brought up 3p though, why do you think this game has a 3p?
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On October 31 2014 14:45 Holyflare wrote:you just quoted his answer oats ![](/mirror/smilies/puh2.gif) I possibly am stupid but I dont understand his answer.
Is he saying he randomly chose someone off the list that he doesnt remember posting a lot?
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On October 31 2014 14:45 Holyflare wrote: the people that have posted once or twice but nothing of value is what he's saying
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On October 31 2014 14:34 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2014 14:20 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 31 2014 14:00 GlowingBear wrote:On October 31 2014 13:58 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 31 2014 13:53 GlowingBear wrote:On October 31 2014 13:51 Oatsmaster wrote: I would analyse scum. british spelling.
GB, are you scum?
So, you think asking me if I'm scum is doing a better job than pointing out a bad entrance? C'mon oats. Face it, your point was not good and you keep going on about it which makes me think that you dont have anything else to post. I dont care what kinda job you think im doing. Ok, it's not the best point, but it is the strongest so far. Propose a better discussion. This one is already saturated. SO WHY DO YOU KEEP BRINGING IT UP? YOU BROUGHT IT UP NOT ME. WHAT THE FUCK GLOWING BEAR. I wanted you to talk about it, you didn't want. I brought it up to say that your question was useless, not to re-engage the discussion. What the fuck? I asked you if you were scum. And you didnt give an answer, and mentioned your shitty point. you re-engaged the discussion. You fool.
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On October 31 2014 14:41 Holyflare wrote: talking about the cat (aka policy) is a great way for mafia to blend in and is essentially complete wifom (useless because it could be scenario A, B or C) so really you're speculating about nothing and avoiding talking about scummy posts and what you think of other people because you are concentrating on something that doesn't help find mafia
which is what mafia love to do How is saying who to vote to analyze on the cat or asking the mods about the mechanics wifom? Why do you think I'm trying to blend in if only me and jaybrundage are talking about it? What exactly am I speculating on? All that I'm trying to say is that we should use the cat this cycle, and I believed ObiWanShinobi was a good target (past tense because cause he's here and he's ok). I don't have any true scum tells - only thing that stands out to me is that I agree with GB about jkirby's entrance being scummy. Why else do you think I would like to use the cat lol.
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On October 31 2014 14:41 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2014 14:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Good to know that HF and Oats are town this game. how'd you come to this conclusion?
Holyflare: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=17#334
His follow up posts on Misder were pretty good too. The way he's phrasing things and the way he's analyzing stuff looks pretty town imo.
I just found myself agreeing with what the two of them were saying about Misder and I liked the points they were bringing up. Oats also had a really good post based on keeping discussion off of the stupid cat thing and onto important things.
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On October 31 2014 14:34 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2014 14:27 Oatsmaster wrote: INTERESTING.
although the illegitimate format thing makes no sense to me if he was town or scum. Like nobody intentionally mistypes their vote. Nobody. So its like a total non-point that he kept mentioning.
but yeah, interesting. the first sentence totally contradicts the last...mafia love to talk about non-points well yeah but thats like a more non-points than normal non-points. A normal non-point is like my ongoing conversation with GB. thats just weird.
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On October 31 2014 14:47 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2014 14:45 Holyflare wrote: the people that have posted once or twice but nothing of value is what he's saying well yeah so thats his criteria for picking a random person?
Ok then. Meh.
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Yo Obi Holyflare. I asked cause I don't know. For instance the term "Third Party" could in TL Mafia always imply that they win to the exclusion of town and mafia. I didnt know.
But being stuck up just makes you guys seem well... Stuck up. Just cause I'm ignorant of something doesn't mean you have to give me shit. Hell I wasn't even asking you guys at first.Originally I was asking the Hosts.
Also saying it was "all I have been talking about when I had been talking to GB just before that just seems to lack thread awareness.
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lol reading through filters - if you want speculations about the cat, look at Circumstance's posts.
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