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On November 02 2014 07:07 Blazinghand wrote:
Fair enough. Look at how GB has responded to RNG this game. Most people who don't like RNG just dismiss it, or call it bad (which eventually, it seeems he did). What GB isntead has done has said it was "disruptive" somehow (even though basically i was the only one voting along those lines) and responded with a counterattack against me. Is this how a town player, one who is familiar with RNG, would react? Why not just call RNG bad? Why not just call me scum for using RNG? Why call attention to the fact that RNG is disruptive to the town discourse, or say that it's unusually bad becuase it landed on him? This is not how my thought process would go if I were RNGed as town and I think it shows us that GB is scum.
It was probably OMGUS. That's what it looked like to me.
BH, who do you read as scum?
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On November 02 2014 07:07 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2014 21:01 GlowingBear wrote:
But there are two problems here:
1) He came to the thread late when discussion was already generated. There is plenty of information to have reads now. So this excuse to use RNG is off
2) It rolled one of the most active and prolific player in the game, so the chance of a mislynch is very high. But he insists to use RNG.
The whole point or RNG, GB, is that I don't have control over who is lynched. Nobody does. It's RNG. If it was "I'm gonna use RNG, but only follow up on it if the guy is a lurker", that wouldn't be RNG, that would be "BH likes to talk about RNG but when the chips are down he folds" and I am not a guy who folds when the chips are down. I take RNG seriously, and yes, sometimes RNG lands on an active scum instead of a passive scum. That doesn't make it less valid. Show nested quote +On November 01 2014 21:25 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 01 2014 21:01 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok. I know for a fact that BH likes RNG.
I also know for a fact that sometimes he uses this to generate discussion.
But there are two problems here:
1) He came to the thread late when discussion was already generated. There is plenty of information to have reads now. So this excuse to use RNG is off
2) It rolled one of the most active and prolific player in the game, so the chance of a mislynch is very high. But he insists to use RNG.
It looks like he is trying to get town off the right track, because he is insisting on a mechanic that is going to lead on a mislynches. He is not reading the game and he is not caring for the game. You can see that he refuses to talk about anything else.
Who BH thinks is scum? Nobody knows.
Who BH thinks is town? Nobody knows.
Passivity and creating confusion. Mafia traits.
BH is mafia. nah point 2 isnt relevant because RNGing then deciding to push that person defeats the purpose of RNG. So yeah these are mostly bad reasons why BH is scum. If BH was town, he would do the RNG shit too. But he would do additional stuff like trying harder to convince people to jump on the RNG wagon. Fair enough. Look at how GB has responded to RNG this game. Most people who don't like RNG just dismiss it, or call it bad (which eventually, it seeems he did). What GB isntead has done has said it was "disruptive" somehow (even though basically i was the only one voting along those lines) and responded with a counterattack against me. Is this how a town player, one who is familiar with RNG, would react? Why not just call RNG bad? Why not just call me scum for using RNG? Why call attention to the fact that RNG is disruptive to the town discourse, or say that it's unusually bad becuase it landed on him? This is not how my thought process would go if I were RNGed as town and I think it shows us that GB is scum. Show nested quote +On November 01 2014 21:34 GlowingBear wrote:
Slam, he had the chance to do it earlier. He came to the thread, someone sent him to dinner (lol) and he peace'd out.
Why he didn't start the RNG that time and not now? Eh, I wasn't really planning to do it, but it turned out I had to go to dinner and didn't have enough time to do any other voting strategy or do a bigger analysis of the thread. I'm 100% sure I already said this. Didn' you read my filter? Show nested quote +On November 01 2014 23:51 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok oats.
My first thought was that maybe we should lynch Kirby
But after reading BH's previous games I want to lynch him so much. Explain?
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BH conquer me so quickly
He was in the elevator
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On November 02 2014 07:06 jrkirby wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 06:56 ritoky wrote:On November 02 2014 06:49 jrkirby wrote:Where the hell are BH and Misder? The longer they are gone, the scummier I feel they are. To me, damdred reads like bad town, cracking under pressure. You shouldn't care that he claims blue though, because it looks like all the reds are going to have random powers too. But overall, it doesn't read like scum, more like clueless town to me. + Show Spoiler [Crazy Theory, not important] +
Although I did for a second entertain a crazy theory - GlowingBear and Damdred are scumbuddies. GB pushes the Damd lynch day one, if it flips mafia he gets an easy rest of game. He's been on Damd's case since the beginning of the game literally.
why is risk.nuke not in that list anymore? has your scum read on him evaporated? if so, why? No, I just forgot to mention him. I'd jump on risk in a second if I thought we could get majority. He's done almost absolutely nothing for town.
i just glanced through your filter. it seems you have or had scum reads on: LT, slam, GB, BH, misder and risk....that's 6 mafia reads....a couple i don't really feel are explained.
as for your town reads...you have 1 on circumstance for being "level-headed" early on and no real mention of anything since...
so my question here is, do you care who gets lynched or do you just care about lynching someone and being in the majority like you just stated?
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BH you really think GB is scum
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Blazinghand
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On November 02 2014 01:39 GlowingBear wrote:
We are killing Damdred today
Place your votes right now!
I understand the lack of reasoning here. You're finally feeling the pressure of RNG getting under your skin, and so you decide to switch to the inarticulate Damdred who will not defend himself like I do, hoping to draw attention away from the fact that the gods have decreed your death.
On November 02 2014 01:41 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 01:39 Damdred wrote:
Your still being lazy and scummy gb, why not make a case instead of being lazzy? Trying to discredit me isn't going to work now, damdy. Anyone who reads my filter will see that I gave reads plenty of times. I even said that, by BH's meta, I thought he was scum.
not sure I understand your meta read of me. In fact, at least 75% of the time that people make a meta read of BH=scum they're just wrong. I'm not really sure why, my scum meta is fairly straight forwards. In any case, stop trying to play with the big boys and admit it: you got gotted by RNg
On November 02 2014 01:57 GlowingBear wrote:
Jay, we are voting Damdred. Place your vote
even though you just "proved" I was scum via meta?
On November 02 2014 02:00 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 01:59 Damdred wrote:On November 02 2014 01:59 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 02 2014 01:16 Damdred wrote:
i just copy pasted my notes its not like i spent any considerable amount of time i answered a question posed to me in the best manner I could. Nobody asked me about my reads in general they asked about one specific person and why i read him that way so i showed it, so don't paint me for that.
Look at the other reasons people are giving for voting for people, not contributing, approaching badly etc.. So stop attacking me for not having a huge case on people doing nothing basically all day, gb admits to being super lazy and just fuck everyone else. And its not null tells gb its your scum tells.
Oats you have no room to talk buddy ohhhh noooo I have plenty of room to talk. YOU HAVE NO SCUM READS DUDE. This is false, I have three scum reads currently explain with quotes and references, 500 words, 12 pt arial, double spacing, justified.
Oats is town this game
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Ok BH is town, hes actually catching up and giving thoughts on stuff. He shouldn't be the lynch today even though he called me inarticulate
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On November 02 2014 07:13 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 07:06 jrkirby wrote:On November 02 2014 06:56 ritoky wrote:On November 02 2014 06:49 jrkirby wrote:Where the hell are BH and Misder? The longer they are gone, the scummier I feel they are. To me, damdred reads like bad town, cracking under pressure. You shouldn't care that he claims blue though, because it looks like all the reds are going to have random powers too. But overall, it doesn't read like scum, more like clueless town to me. + Show Spoiler [Crazy Theory, not important] +
Although I did for a second entertain a crazy theory - GlowingBear and Damdred are scumbuddies. GB pushes the Damd lynch day one, if it flips mafia he gets an easy rest of game. He's been on Damd's case since the beginning of the game literally.
why is risk.nuke not in that list anymore? has your scum read on him evaporated? if so, why? No, I just forgot to mention him. I'd jump on risk in a second if I thought we could get majority. He's done almost absolutely nothing for town. i just glanced through your filter. it seems you have or had scum reads on: LT, slam, GB, BH, misder and risk....that's 6 mafia reads....a couple i don't really feel are explained. as for your town reads...you have 1 on circumstance for being "level-headed" early on and no real mention of anything since... so my question here is, do you care who gets lynched or do you just care about lynching someone and being in the majority like you just stated?
I no longer have scum reads on slam or LT. I think HF is town, not sure about circumstance tbh. I don't think I ever said GB was scum. It's been closer to null all game for him. Could go either way with how he's playing.
If BH, misder or risk get lynched I wouldn't mind. BH's back in the thread so he might change my mind.
Anyone else - I need some serious convincing, but I much rather have somebody lynched than nobody lynched.
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Yeah guys.
Lynch GlowingBear.
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On November 02 2014 07:17 Damdred wrote:
Ok BH is town, hes actually catching up and giving thoughts on stuff. He shouldn't be the lynch today even though he called me inarticulate
Don't think this makes him town at all unless you think his mafia meta is literally to do nothing always in which case you are wrong.
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On November 02 2014 07:17 Damdred wrote:
Ok BH is town, hes actually catching up and giving thoughts on stuff. He shouldn't be the lynch today even though he called me inarticulate
You just like that he's defending you.
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On November 02 2014 07:19 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 07:17 Damdred wrote:
Ok BH is town, hes actually catching up and giving thoughts on stuff. He shouldn't be the lynch today even though he called me inarticulate Don't think this makes him town at all unless you think his mafia meta is literally to do nothing always in which case you are wrong.
Every time he has been scum that i've seen (if you can point me to a game woudl be cool) where all he did was make excuses post during certain time periods and never actually commented on anything. So give me a game to look at so i can have a better rounded opinon then
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On November 02 2014 02:23 jrkirby wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 02:21 Damdred wrote:
I'll take bad town, not any different from most of the thread.
And look at jrkirby he once again changed vote when it wasn't going in the way that he wanted I changed vote when I realized I was completely misreading what alakaslam meant.
Outside of certain corner cases, 90% of the time that people scumread Alakaslam it has nothing to do with his alignment, it has to do with the fact that Alakaslam's posting is always weird as heck. Not an insult, Slam-- just an observation. Let the blues take care of him.
On November 02 2014 02:26 Holyflare wrote:
1) ObiWanShinobi <--- random town reads based off of almost nothing and talking about useless crap, talks about how much of a waste analysing jb is and then does it
5) risk.nuke - 0 posts 0 posts of content but is a "good player?" his quote btw
11) Alakaslam - never have any clue really
12) Blazinghand - probably scummiest mofo, excuse for being afk for a ridiculous amount of time (dinner????????) and then rng to fill in the gaps of "content", then NOT pushing his rng target like a mofo and no fake rng case content after that
13) Damdred - massive long post on why jay is town and then asked to post reads and didn't post anything else despite saying he had more notes, pretty scummy especially when jay is super borderline not town that i wanted to put him on this list
potential people to add:
seuss
jay
tolkien
\look dude the reason i had to do RNG is I had to leave for dinner. I'm back now and here to save u so let's lynch GB
On November 02 2014 02:26 jrkirby wrote:
Also, the longer we don't hear from blazinghand, the more I'm inclined to agree with Oats. Even if he does want an RNG lynch, he's not even pushing it like his hand is blazing.
It just doesn't smell like a towny BH.
I was at dinner! give me a break guys, don't you ever eat dinner
On November 02 2014 02:47 Holyflare wrote:
bh is probably the best lynch at the moment
look the day even got extended, no problem we have time to consoldiate onto gb
On November 02 2014 02:45 Holyflare wrote:
each one of my list is quite clearly a reasonable case to lynch that person
yeah actually your list post is fine as long as you pick a top guy and push him; ideally a top guy who isn't bh. you should flesh it out more
On November 02 2014 03:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
Did anyone actually CLAIM Aldor Peacekeeper?
not me
On November 02 2014 03:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ehhhh....I think whoever is Aldor Peacekeeper is mafia. Making the lynch into a majority lynch speaks of someone trying to save whoever was up for lynch when it was plurality. :/
Anyone else getting that same vibe?
ah, it made it majority lynch eh
well I should prepare some non-GB scumreads then in case I can't convince you yahoos to get on him, since as the shennigan king I am solely responsible for the avoidance of no-lynches
On November 02 2014 03:26 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 03:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ehhhh....I think whoever is Aldor Peacekeeper is mafia. Making the lynch into a majority lynch speaks of someone trying to save whoever was up for lynch when it was plurality. :/
Anyone else getting that same vibe? i dunno i just thought the extra time was pretty pro town
I think it's pretty pro-BH at least since I'd probably get jubjubbed since I had dinner up until now and now I get 27 hours to lynch GB instead of 24
On November 02 2014 03:27 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm probably going to end up voting BH when all is said and done.
y
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On November 02 2014 07:20 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 07:19 Holyflare wrote:On November 02 2014 07:17 Damdred wrote:
Ok BH is town, hes actually catching up and giving thoughts on stuff. He shouldn't be the lynch today even though he called me inarticulate Don't think this makes him town at all unless you think his mafia meta is literally to do nothing always in which case you are wrong. Every time he has been scum that i've seen (if you can point me to a game woudl be cool) where all he did was make excuses post during certain time periods and never actually commented on anything. So give me a game to look at so i can have a better rounded opinon then
Like this game.
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Also, one thing for clairification. Damdred breadcrumbed aldor and then it happened, and then he claimed, right?
Can someone quote or link these two posts for me, because I am sometimes a little slow about this.
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TY hf i'll go read some of those
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Read hog warts. That's the game that made me feel this is scum BH.
Then read noir and tell me if it doesn't looks different.
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hogwarts is completely different to this game as bh was like afk the entirety of the first 2 days
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What I find hilarious about all this is I basically used an entire South Park quote for the middle paragraph + Show Spoiler +On November 02 2014 06:39 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 02:44 Holyflare wrote:On November 02 2014 02:30 jaybrundage wrote:On November 02 2014 02:26 Holyflare wrote:
1) ObiWanShinobi <--- random town reads based off of almost nothing and talking about useless crap, talks about how much of a waste analysing jb is and then does it
5) risk.nuke - 0 posts 0 posts of content but is a "good player?" his quote btw
11) Alakaslam - never have any clue really
12) Blazinghand - probably scummiest mofo, excuse for being afk for a ridiculous amount of time (dinner????????) and then rng to fill in the gaps of "content", then NOT pushing his rng target like a mofo and no fake rng case content after that
13) Damdred - massive long post on why jay is town and then asked to post reads and didn't post anything else despite saying he had more notes, pretty scummy especially when jay is super borderline not town that i wanted to put him on this list
potential people to add:
seuss
jay
tolkien
Stop the shitty list post. I WANNA A CASE DAMMIT. Preferably one that you don't directly misrepresent things. i don't misrepresent anything you can quite literally say what you want but everyone else knows that what i said wasn't a misrepresentation and the only reason you're not on my list is the amount of butt hurt that you are displaying about it and the fact that you actually did something that wasn't talking about policy but it was on me so that's why you're close to being on my list again Hm weird Alakaslam said this so Show nested quote +On November 01 2014 04:14 Alakaslam wrote:
HF always likes to put words & intent into posts that weren't ever there.
Does this as both alignments. You should literally find out what "everyone" means. I can't wrap my head around the fact that you could do this as both alignments. It is such a scummy, mafia-esque trait. Here is an example of something you said that was distinctly wrong. I'm sure you will ignore it tho. Rofl you remind me of Cartman stealing Jimmy's joke and being completely oblivious to the truth. HF you really believe that you haven't been misrepresenting me at all this entire time. Oh my god, Wait, I totally get it now. All this time I have been mad at you HF for trying to misrepresent me. But now I realize that your ego has made you believe that things happened differently, that's what Alakaslam was trying to tell me. That you have such a huge ego that you do these mental gymnastics so you don't appear wrong. I thought you were intentionally being thick. But now I realize that some people have egos that are so out of wack. That no matter what people tell them. They can't accept the truth of what actually happened. HF I realize now that you can't help but think you never made a mistake, Because your ego won't let you think otherwise. Oh and btw and I couldn't give two craps if I'm almost on your list. You ARE still on my list. I have yet to see good reasons why you aren't scum. The only problem is that people that have played with you previously aren't getting any scum vibes. And as I have no previous experience playing with you that i can remember . I'm deferring to their judgement of you.
@HF I never assumed anything I asked a question to you about your post. Alakaslam made an assumption that sounded about right. If you have such a problem answer the damn question yourself.
On November 02 2014 06:42 Holyflare wrote:
It literally does not matter if i am wishy washy, "misrepresnting" or whatever. At the end of the day all i have to do is lead the town to lynch mafia and if you are posting about me representing YOU but then start posting about me town reading someone for their role when that didn't happen at all then all it does is make you look completely terrible.
This is what I said
On November 02 2014 05:09 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 03:27 Holyflare wrote:
well damd is aldor then i dunno how obvious he wants to be but i think that probably takes him off the table... maybe Why?
On November 02 2014 05:21 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 05:20 Alakaslam wrote:On November 02 2014 05:09 jaybrundage wrote:On November 02 2014 03:27 Holyflare wrote:
well damd is aldor then i dunno how obvious he wants to be but i think that probably takes him off the table... maybe Why? He is under the impression that it cannot be a scum role. That's dumb
But you somehow can make "Why?" and "That's dumb" Into JayBrundage "posting about (HF) town reading someone for their role when that didn't happen at all then all it does is make (JayBrundage) look completely terrible." That is the quote from HF
I don't even know what to say. I said three things but he interpreted it into this drivel: JayBrundage "posting about (HF) town reading someone for their role when that didn't happen at all then all it does is make (JayBrundage) look completely terrible."
Guys can we just lynch HF? Do people still think hes town at all?
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On November 02 2014 07:29 Holyflare wrote:
hogwarts is completely different to this game as bh was like afk the entirety of the first 2 days
I think his writing style is similar.
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