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On October 03 2014 01:39 StorrZerg wrote:
Literally 0 reason for anyone to think both obi and I could be scum with the hf death.
No meta play, it's simple scum wants to win. A scum team of obi/myself never kill hf.
Fact that ve keeps pushing we are together is why he is so wrong
I even SAY that it's possible Obi is town. I LITERALLY SAY THAT! I say that I'm reading him as mafia, but now I'm MORE sure that you're mafia, so we lynch you and go from there! THATS WHAT I SAID!
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Doesn't mafia just say "damn I'm dumb sorry" and leave it once they figure out they said something that ridiculous? Store said he was dumb and continued trying to explain why.
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On October 03 2014 01:41 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 01:39 StorrZerg wrote:
Literally 0 reason for anyone to think both obi and I could be scum with the hf death.
No meta play, it's simple scum wants to win. A scum team of obi/myself never kill hf.
Fact that ve keeps pushing we are together is why he is so wrong Now he is wrong so you DO read him town?
No. His pushing and avoidance lines up with why hf died.
He is scum
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On October 03 2014 01:41 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 01:38 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 03 2014 01:32 StorrZerg wrote:
@ve explain why killimg hf is beneficial to me. Because HE THINKS YOU COULD BE MAFIA! He NEVER EVER says he's reading you as town. EVER STORR! He stopped reading me as mafia. The fact that ve is happy to keep pushing this till proven wrong is absurd. When he is proven wrong " ops must have missed that, remember guys I just replaced, I won't catch everything "
QUOTE THE POST STORR! QUOTE THE POST OR SHUT THE FUCK UP!
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On October 03 2014 01:41 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 01:38 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 03 2014 01:32 StorrZerg wrote:
@ve explain why killimg hf is beneficial to me. Because HE THINKS YOU COULD BE MAFIA! He NEVER EVER says he's reading you as town. EVER STORR! He stopped reading me as mafia. The fact that ve is happy to keep pushing this till proven wrong is absurd. When he is proven wrong " ops must have missed that, remember guys I just replaced, I won't catch everything "
Well, if it is so easy then prove him wrong please because I don't remember HF defending you OR Obi.
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Doesn't matter ve. You are pushing to lynch us both. And avoiding jat, ff, superbia. You said you would relook at them.
You are not keeping to your word.
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On October 03 2014 00:46 StorrZerg wrote:
Lets step in the world of magical possibilites where Obi is town, and Storr is town.
That means the entire palmar wagon would have been town. HF death makes a LOT of sense now.
Means they can kill HF, and try to lynch one of obi and myself for the win.
If obi and i are both mafia. We never kill HF. He was defending us both. And we would want a fall guy, we 100% kill bats or one of the 4.
From a stand point of 1 mafia between us. I can't speak for what obi has to gain if he was mafia.
But looking at how palmar was playing, i have 0 to gain from the killing of palmar as mafia. killing a "strong town" over skydragon, for all that extra pressure is just not worth the time and effort. I 100% would hae been lazy about end of day, i just got back from 60 miles of biking, yet i took the time and effort to play the last bit of day 2 because i'm town and i tried to do something productive.
THIS IS A LIE! THE BOLDED IS A LIE! HE NEVER EVER DEFENDS STORRZERG! AT MOST HE PSEUDO REMOVES HIM FROM A SCUMLIST BASED ON VOTE LOGIC WITH THE PREMISE THAT SKY IS MAFIA LEST WE FORGET BUT HE ADDS OBI TO THAT SELFSAME LIST! HE NEVER EVER "DEFENDS THEM BOTH" AND HE NEVER EVER SAYS ANYTHING ABOUT STORR OTHER THAN "HIS REASONING IS BULLSHIT" AND "MAYBE I'D REMOVE STORR AND ADD OBI TO MY SCUMLIST"
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And even if he said that you are town that in itself is a very good reason for you to kill him so you can say it right now. You know that HF would have reevaluated everything today. You even posted about how dangerous he would have been for scum yourself.
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VE if your intention is for people to read your posts, you shouldn't do that.
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On October 02 2014 19:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
Now, JUST to be a good sport, I will do as I promised and look into the other 4 players in the game to try and find the 1 (or 2 because I'm not 100% on Obi like I am on Storr now - take that to the bank, Storr is 100% mafia here) other mafia.
This is where I'm currently sitting. I'm CURRENTLY filtering the group of four and AFTER STORR IS LYNCHED I will share my findings with the class. I'm HOLDING MY READS OF OTHER PLAYERS HOSTAGE UNTIL STORRZERG IS LYNCHED WITH FIRE!
Did he just say that?
HE JUST FUCKING SAID THAT! Obi MIGHT be town here now that I'm CERTAIN Storrzerg is mafia. NONE of his play makes sense, in spite of every other post referring to his "completely logical plan" that makes NO FUCKING SENSE! So if we lynch Storr and he flips mafia, OBVIOUSLY I'm going to reevaluate whether Obi is mafia or not. THATS INFORMATION THAT IMPACTS MY READ OF OBI. But one thing is for sure - I'M NEVER VOTING ANYONE BUT STORRZERG THIS GAME.
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##vote: VE
See you guys later
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On October 03 2014 01:49 batsnacks wrote:
VE if your intention is for people to read your posts, you shouldn't do that.
Bats, I like and respect you as a player. I may or may not agree with your reads on Super and FF. But if you want to win, you're going to vote Storrzerg at the end of this cycle. You did D2. I'm doing it today...but instead of wielding your vote like a guillotine to individual players, I'm wielding my vote AS THE HAMMER OF JUSTICE THAT WILL SAVE THIS TOWN.
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He isn't filtering, I'm town, he doesn't need to filter them.
Game ends when he miss lynches me.
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On October 03 2014 01:54 batsnacks wrote:
##vote: VE
See you guys later
This is a mistake. Please think about this.
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On October 03 2014 01:54 batsnacks wrote:
##vote: VE
See you guys later
Why are you doing this? Spite lynching me is literally going to lose you the game. If you're fine with that then I'm fine with that - I've thrown MANY games on this site. But in this case YOU are the thrower because I'M voting for mafia and YOU are voting for town.
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On October 03 2014 01:55 VisceraEyes wrote:Why are you doing this? Spite lynching me is literally going to lose you the game. If you're fine with that then I'm fine with that - I've thrown MANY games on this site. But in this case YOU are the thrower because I'M voting for mafia and YOU are voting for town.
For the record, the thing you're spite lynching me for is something you did D2, to several people. You can get down off your high-horse any time now and do the right thing and lynch Storrzerg.
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I'm a bad man... Why do I do stuff like that to people...
VE please, channel some of that energy towards FF or super. If you're town I think you'll like where it gets you.
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On October 01 2014 00:37 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2014 00:16 justanothertownie wrote:On October 01 2014 00:09 StorrZerg wrote:comments in blue on things that are possible to have a response form my self On September 29 2014 23:24 justanothertownie wrote:
Like Storrs reasoning for pushing Palmar is so wrong it can't be unintentional. And you are calling him town for it.
why not? my reason ended up being wrong. It wasn't that far fetch from my stand point, i have high expectations from killing .
On September 29 2014 23:28 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 09:17 StorrZerg wrote:On September 28 2014 05:10 Palmar wrote:
Also for what it's worth, I sincerely fucking hope our cop checked Holyflare last night. I am in no mood to argue with him for 15 pages, but there is a chance he is mafia. There's something off about his play here, he's just not.... being smart and analytical enough for my taste. super fake post. On September 28 2014 05:16 Palmar wrote:On September 28 2014 05:14 batsnacks wrote:
This isn't game related or anything, but was English your first language? Your English is really good. Nope, Icelandic is my first language. it was strange that palmar talked about this. On September 28 2014 07:40 Palmar wrote:
Yeah policy lynching Killing for this. This has to be the 4th or 5tth remark about "policy lynching" I don't think town palmar talks about policy lynches all the time. Most of his pushes day 1, had to do with policy, and today he keeps enforcing policy. Nothing here makes sense. Palmar talked about the language because he was ASKED about it. He always talks about policies and Storr should know that since he was in the last game where this was a discussed issue. yeah, so you bring up the game where i was mafia, and clearly not giving a rats ass what was going on. I do remember him being bitched at for not doing more policy stuff. On September 29 2014 09:27 StorrZerg wrote:
Palmar hasn't been active in doing anything. He has a lot of posts, but he is doing nothing to progress the game.
His day 1 push was a feeling. Half of his scum reads are because of policy. haru "gotta be scum because he said he was going to a real life event" "killing gotta be scum cause not claiming asap" etc etc etc.
Palmar was the only one who took the time to analyse multiple people without being poked to do so or them being on the chopping block. If there was someone that did things to progress the game -> Palmar. You don't have to agree with his reads. I didn't either. But saying that Palmar did nothing is just asinine. ok. thats after the fact. its all ready been stated that my push on palmar was super trumped up, because of the scenario that was flying in my head. i didnt see you defending palmar near that point. in fact you seem to be very much ok with the whole ordeal thats going on.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/467273-2p2-vanilla-werewolf-13er?page=83#1648
i mean you obviously feel very strongly about this point, i just can't believe you would be waiting to bring it up. hell i tried pushing you, so you had to be paying attention, you could have been fighting with what i was doing, yet you sat back and even provoked the situation with that post. On September 29 2014 09:32 StorrZerg wrote:On September 29 2014 09:30 Superbia wrote:On September 29 2014 09:24 StorrZerg wrote:On September 29 2014 09:22 Superbia wrote:
I don't think Palmar is scum here, should just stick with the vote for today. NO SWITCH NOW I'm not convinced man. The whole icelandic thing and the policy lynches thing are both really weak. His fake post? Makes sense from my perspective. The only thing you have on him is the sudden townread on you, which is in no way alignment indicative enough for me to switch. Like do you have any other substantial reads? How did you even switch to Palmar that quickly? palmar isn't doing anything. Sky could be town and be just bad. super fucking bad. (he still is likely mafia) palmars previous game, he had reads as town. he "did things" i really don't care if he is known for policy, his entire play has been policy over stupid things. He literally doesn't care about EoD Palmar gave reads. Probably more of them than anyone else here. On September 29 2014 23:29 justanothertownie wrote:
Storr is mafia. Sky too. On September 29 2014 23:34 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 23:34 StorrZerg wrote:
I can't believe he was actually playing this bad. I thought bats was actually the cop with red on palmar. Killing was faking a green on the real cop to give bats another day. Nope...
I feel so retarded. lol wut How the hell would Killing know that bats was cop? On September 29 2014 23:40 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 23:38 StorrZerg wrote:On September 29 2014 23:34 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 23:34 StorrZerg wrote:
I can't believe he was actually playing this bad. I thought bats was actually the cop with red on palmar. Killing was faking a green on the real cop to give bats another day. Nope...
I feel so retarded. lol wut How the hell would Killing know that bats was cop? Because bats "softed" first If you thought that soft was real you would not have believed that bats had a redcheck on Palmar but on HF. /dunked when i came in game, bats wasn't pushing HF, he was pushing palmar. didnt matter about the early potential fake red on hf, or real red on hf. bats was pushing palmar.
On September 30 2014 00:04 justanothertownie wrote:
Nothing storr says makes any sense. super glad this means anything.
well i can't respond to some of this since they are not actual accusations, or doesn't actually lead to anything, or there is no real body in the post.
so if they are random comments like "storr is bad" then my response is "ok i guess lol?"
That's fair enough. I am not expecting you to answer those things. But I am not happy with the things you can and did answer like the softing thing. People thought batsnacks softed having a redcheck on HF. Are you telling me you didn't know that and instead just believed people who said he is softing? And still you pushed hard for Palmars lynch without even doublechecking that? It was absolutely obvious for anyone reading the thread that batsnacks did not have a redcheck on Palmar EVEN IF Killing wasn't the cop which you claim to have thought since day1. Your story just doesn't add up at all. Here is the deal. Killing play day 1. cop play. He was active enough to seem town, but very inactive play. Gave a town list, didn't care to elaborate on his reads that much, just a no care attitude. Day 2, he claims. Now his claim makes sense from my stand point, yet what is weird is how he claimed. He claimed with a dead check and an alive green on someone who potentially softed cop. This is where i was rethinking killing as cop. He was playing so bad, and insulting so much, and his checks didn't make that much sense for why he outed. Hence, i figured the only he was making this dumbshit play was because he wasn't actually the cop. So i moved to batsnacks. He has to be the cop, killing is covering him, and he probably has a red check which is why he is pushing palmar for little reason. He is super hostile to anyone, he is throwing his confirmed self all over the place with threats. This play seemed to be like someone who had more information than i did. Hence why things "fell in line" as to why he could be cop. As for holyflare and bats. what does it matter. If bats really had a check on holy, he would have pushed it. EoD he wasn't pushing holy, he was pushing palmar. As for the double check question. people bashed on bats for softing cop. he denied it. As for being obvious, it isn't that obvious to me. Most of you don't have that many games with joey, or know how he plays roles. Bats was part of the equation not the whole thing. So yes, my story does add up. Because if killing wasn't the cop, and was covering bats. Bats would be pushing his read check EoD. Doing what ever he could to get it done.
This explanation completely falls apart when Bats does NOT counterclaim Joey. When Joey hardclaims and bats does not counterclaim with his red on whoever the fuck you think it was, it ceases to make any kind of logical sense. It becomes a post-hoc explanation for events people are accusing you of and not an earnest explanation of your "townie" thought-process. Because you say it yourself - you've seen Joey do all kinds of shit. "Faking a red" with two greens is HARDLY out of his range. Not even close. In fact, I'd venture to say that it LENDS CREDENCE to his cop claim based on how he ragequit the thread.
Further, what bats did WAS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO A COP SOFT! If it was, and it made YOU believe it, Storrzerg the Wise, then why didn't MAFIA believe it? Why did they kill Killing instead of Bats? Because bats NEVER softed cop! Why would he not claim cop with a red if he's the cop?!
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On October 03 2014 02:05 batsnacks wrote:
I'm a bad man... Why do I do stuff like that to people...
VE please, channel some of that energy towards FF or super. If you're town I think you'll like where it gets you.
I've already told you. I'm voting for the scum we're lynching today. If I'm wrong I'm absolutely fine bearing the weight of this loss on my shoulders. But I'm not because Storrzerg is 100% mafia. If we lynch anyone else this cycle, it will be without my help, and therefor will be mafia influenced.
I'm a bad man too. Let's find out who's badder shall we?
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On October 03 2014 02:21 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 02:05 batsnacks wrote:
I'm a bad man... Why do I do stuff like that to people...
VE please, channel some of that energy towards FF or super. If you're town I think you'll like where it gets you. I've already told you. I'm voting for the scum we're lynching today. If I'm wrong I'm absolutely fine bearing the weight of this loss on my shoulders. But I'm not because Storrzerg is 100% mafia. If we lynch anyone else this cycle, it will be without my help, and therefor will be mafia influenced. I'm a bad man too. Let's find out who's badder shall we?
You're playing with fire VE. All I want you to say is:
FF: <alignment>
Superbia: <alignment>
Then you can go back to beating your dead horse.
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