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On October 03 2014 03:57 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 02:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
That's all based on a Sky scumflip. That's all based on his read of a player which is INCORRECT Storr. Holy ABSOLUTELY would have reevaluated today, ESPECIALLY with me replacing in and Sky flipping town. OBVIOUSLY Storr. He was MUSING about the idea because it was still based on the incorrect assumption that Sky is MAFIA.
Again, Holyflare might have considered you town briefly on D3, but with the extra information that Sky is town who knows what he might have thought next? We'll never know will we because HOLYFLARE IS DEAD. Makes me look a hella lot more town, exactly why he looks hella town if sky flips. What fucking mafia team switches a for sure town lynch, to another town lynch last second. Ill tell you, they don't HE WOULD HAVE GONE AFTER HARU TODAY, AND NOT ME. THE ONLY WAY HE WOULD HAVE BEEN CONSIDERING ME WOULD BE IF SKY FLIPPED MAFIA. because in that case "i saved sky by pushing palmar" same with "obi" and people who stuck on sky would be more town. The fact that you are trying to make it appear like we have "no idea" what holy was thinking is absurd. He didn't have me in the mafia circle, ergo i was not on his radar as scum, ergo he wouldn't want to lynch me. Specially since we both wanted to lynch haru, we both pushed plamar as town. Its simple, at the time, if i was mafia, Bats dies, i push haru with holy for the win. There was no indication that haru was going to be replaced. The fact that you are in the game doesn't mean anything. We don't know how he would react, and you absolutely can't justify you know how he would act right now. If anything he 100% wouldn't be pushing me regardless.
Townies and especially good townies like HF don't go into LYLO and without reevaluating the game/rethinking their reads and I think you know that. The fact that you are trying to clear yourself of the dead townies read that you are maybe/potentially not scum could be the reason he is dead in the first place. It is equally wrong as your "townread Obi for no reason" plan.
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Like I am pretty certain that there is at least one mafia between you and Obi and you are pushing this agenda of ignoring the 2 of you. Does not look good.
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And that's ALL he's doing. Like, I'm bringing MY OWN points to the table, every time Storr is asked to do that he just says "Nope, give me your reads on X,Y,Z - obey because all the dead townies called me town."
I'm so done with this conversation. It's destroying the thread and accomplishing nothing. My accusation on you stands Storrzerg - your explanation for the whole bats/Joey thing doesn't make any sense. Your plan to clear yourself AND Obi based on switching to a TOWNIE at the end of the day is ludicrous and you're still trying to paint me as mafia when I'm clearly not.
I'll provide my reads on the other players before end of day. I intend to continue to try and get my lynch through based on the GOOD reasoning I've provided.
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On October 03 2014 04:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
They all wanted to lynch me too and I'm town. Again, bad point.
My play is perfectly pro town. I'm lynching mafia.
no, you refuse to see logic. in why both obi and i can't be mafia.
You refuse to look into jat/ff/super.
Only 2 people wanted to really lynch haru yesterday. Or actively pushed haru.
Me, yes my "musings" was a case, it IS a case. and Holy who agreed with some of my points, GB and voting patterns in particular.
So things that VE is doing today that isn't pro town.
Logic regarding obi and storr cannot both be mafia, because HF died.
Thus, given that logic, only 1 can be mafia within those 2.
There for everyone in the group of "4 of ve, ff, super, jat" has to know at LEAST in their world 2 our of 3 are mafia.
Its likely only 1 town is among the 4, at most 2 towns.
Considering all this, every town Must be thinking about who is mafia in the group of 4. yet, with how many people who are Pushing on Myself, or Obi and disregarding the group of 4, helps reinforce that its likely neither obi and i are mafia.
(save for jat, which is why he might be town)
Thus why VE is avoiding reading anyone in the group of 4 scum. Because its in his best interest to lynch in the palmar group, rather than the people who "haven't been on wagons" who "are not really figuring out the game" who "are skating by"
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On October 03 2014 04:09 justanothertownie wrote:
Like I am pretty certain that there is at least one mafia between you and Obi and you are pushing this agenda of ignoring the 2 of you. Does not look good.
thats fine if you think 1 is mafia. Thats a 50% chance at hitting the right one if you flip a coin.
Deal is from your perspective, that means out of FF, Super, VE you have 2 mafia. So you should be defining 2! scum reads in that group, because THERE HAS to be 2 in that group, thats 66%.
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On October 03 2014 04:13 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 04:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
They all wanted to lynch me too and I'm town. Again, bad point.
My play is perfectly pro town. I'm lynching mafia. no, you refuse to see logic. in why both obi and i can't be mafia. You refuse to look into jat/ff/super. Only 2 people wanted to really lynch haru yesterday. Or actively pushed haru. Me, yes my "musings" was a case, it IS a case. and Holy who agreed with some of my points, GB and voting patterns in particular. So things that VE is doing today that isn't pro town. Logic regarding obi and storr cannot both be mafia, because HF died.Thus, given that logic, only 1 can be mafia within those 2.
There for everyone in the group of "4 of ve, ff, super, jat" has to know at LEAST in their world 2 our of 3 are mafia.
Its likely only 1 town is among the 4, at most 2 towns.
Considering all this, every town Must be thinking about who is mafia in the group of 4. yet, with how many people who are Pushing on Myself, or Obi and disregarding the group of 4, helps reinforce that its likely neither obi and i are mafia.
(save for jat, which is why he might be town)
Thus why VE is avoiding reading anyone in the group of 4 scum. Because its in his best interest to lynch in the palmar group, rather than the people who "haven't been on wagons" who "are not really figuring out the game" who "are skating by"
I bolded where your logic dies and struck all the assumptions based upon it.
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I'm done interacting with you Store.
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On October 03 2014 04:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
And that's ALL he's doing. Like, I'm bringing MY OWN points to the table, every time Storr is asked to do that he just says "Nope, give me your reads on X,Y,Z - obey because all the dead townies called me town."
I'm so done with this conversation. It's destroying the thread and accomplishing nothing. My accusation on you stands Storrzerg - your explanation for the whole bats/Joey thing doesn't make any sense. Your plan to clear yourself AND Obi based on switching to a TOWNIE at the end of the day is ludicrous and you're still trying to paint me as mafia when I'm clearly not.
I'll provide my reads on the other players before end of day. I intend to continue to try and get my lynch through based on the GOOD reasoning I've provided.
You think Obi and i could both be mafia. Which has very poor logic behind that, and is super far fetched.
So if you down grade to 1 mafia between us. thats 50%
as i said to jat. Its in your best interest to be lynching within Jat/ff/super since you are guaranteed 2 mafia in that group, 66%
hence why i can defend obi on principle that he ISN"T the lynch today, and NEITHER am i.
The only way Lynching either myself or obi is fine for today, from a "whole town standpoint" is if the majority think we are BOTH mafia,. That is NOT the case.
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On October 03 2014 04:14 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 04:09 justanothertownie wrote:
Like I am pretty certain that there is at least one mafia between you and Obi and you are pushing this agenda of ignoring the 2 of you. Does not look good. thats fine if you think 1 is mafia. Thats a 50% chance at hitting the right one if you flip a coin. Deal is from your perspective, that means out of FF, Super, VE you have 2 mafia. So you should be defining 2! scum reads in that group, because THERE HAS to be 2 in that group, thats 66%.
What part of AT LEAST ONE MAFIA do you not understand? No, there don't HAVE TO BE 2 mafia in that group. It is possible but far from certain. I am not mafia. I am pretty sure that VE is not mafia. That leaves FF and super who could be scum. That means there is AT LEAST one between you and Obi. But it is also possible that you are both scum.
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See ve, you can't explain why I would be killing HF, because i have 0 motivation. Its clear as day on end of day 3 that HF was not going to be pushing me if Sky flipped town.
And NO ONE can reason why a team of obi + myself is even possible with the death of HF.
BOOM HEAD SHOT
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On October 03 2014 04:18 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 04:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
And that's ALL he's doing. Like, I'm bringing MY OWN points to the table, every time Storr is asked to do that he just says "Nope, give me your reads on X,Y,Z - obey because all the dead townies called me town."
I'm so done with this conversation. It's destroying the thread and accomplishing nothing. My accusation on you stands Storrzerg - your explanation for the whole bats/Joey thing doesn't make any sense. Your plan to clear yourself AND Obi based on switching to a TOWNIE at the end of the day is ludicrous and you're still trying to paint me as mafia when I'm clearly not.
I'll provide my reads on the other players before end of day. I intend to continue to try and get my lynch through based on the GOOD reasoning I've provided. You think Obi and i could both be mafia. Which has very poor logic behind that, and is super far fetched. So if you down grade to 1 mafia between us. thats 50% as i said to jat. Its in your best interest to be lynching within Jat/ff/super since you are guaranteed 2 mafia in that group, 66% hence why i can defend obi on principle that he ISN"T the lynch today, and NEITHER am i. The only way Lynching either myself or obi is fine for today, from a "whole town standpoint" is if the majority think we are BOTH mafia,. That is NOT the case.
NO. The bolded part makes no fucking sense and no matter how many fucking times you repeat this retarded logic it does not magically become true.
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On October 03 2014 04:19 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 04:14 StorrZerg wrote:On October 03 2014 04:09 justanothertownie wrote:
Like I am pretty certain that there is at least one mafia between you and Obi and you are pushing this agenda of ignoring the 2 of you. Does not look good. thats fine if you think 1 is mafia. Thats a 50% chance at hitting the right one if you flip a coin. Deal is from your perspective, that means out of FF, Super, VE you have 2 mafia. So you should be defining 2! scum reads in that group, because THERE HAS to be 2 in that group, thats 66%. What part of AT LEAST ONE MAFIA do you not understand? No, there don't HAVE TO BE 2 mafia in that group. It is possible but far from certain. I am not mafia. I am pretty sure that VE is not mafia. That leaves FF and super who could be scum. That means there is AT LEAST one between you and Obi. But it is also possible that you are both scum.
No, impossible for us to both be scum. Prove how we could both be scum right now.
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On October 03 2014 04:20 StorrZerg wrote:
See ve, you can't explain why I would be killing HF, because i have 0 motivation. Its clear as day on end of day 3 that HF was not going to be pushing me if Sky flipped town.
And NO ONE can reason why a team of obi + myself is even possible with the death of HF.
BOOM HEAD SHOT
On October 02 2014 23:00 StorrZerg wrote:
mafia kill HF because bats is a dumb town.
Because mafia only need to have 3 votes while 1 town isn't voting. to win. Will holyflare be active end of day to win the game for town? YES will bats do fuck all? who knows.
I think I found someone who can reason why LITERALLY ANYONE could and would kill HF.
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You know who could give us Holys updated reads on Storr and Obi? Holy. Can't though cause he dead. Send like reason enough to kill him if you are mafia to me. Shrug.
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On October 03 2014 04:24 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 04:20 StorrZerg wrote:
See ve, you can't explain why I would be killing HF, because i have 0 motivation. Its clear as day on end of day 3 that HF was not going to be pushing me if Sky flipped town.
And NO ONE can reason why a team of obi + myself is even possible with the death of HF.
BOOM HEAD SHOT Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 23:00 StorrZerg wrote:
mafia kill HF because bats is a dumb town.
Because mafia only need to have 3 votes while 1 town isn't voting. to win. Will holyflare be active end of day to win the game for town? YES will bats do fuck all? who knows. I think I found someone who can reason why LITERALLY ANYONE could and would kill HF.
But That reason doesn't work for Both a team of Obi + storr. Because HF is going to tunnel Haru this day.
A scum team of VE obi Storr, doesn't make sense. HF is left alive if that was the case 100% of the time.
A team of obi storr, can't kill HF. Because a team of obi + storr knows the palmar push is scum driven. Hence, they have to leave HF alive. and NEED to kill bats in that situation, or if there was a townie that would be better than bats, its NOT HF, it would HAVE to be one of the other 4. (which can't be haru, ff because of activity and not being that town in peoples eyes)
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On October 03 2014 04:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
You know who could give us Holys updated reads on Storr and Obi? Holy. Can't though cause he dead. Send like reason enough to kill him if you are mafia to me. Shrug.
Doesn't matter, we can see what he was thinking EoD 3, as well as his thought process on me is pointed out a lot.
Its not like we don't know what his read on me was, its pretty clear he wasn't going to be pushing me today.
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On October 03 2014 04:38 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 04:24 justanothertownie wrote:On October 03 2014 04:20 StorrZerg wrote:
See ve, you can't explain why I would be killing HF, because i have 0 motivation. Its clear as day on end of day 3 that HF was not going to be pushing me if Sky flipped town.
And NO ONE can reason why a team of obi + myself is even possible with the death of HF.
BOOM HEAD SHOT On October 02 2014 23:00 StorrZerg wrote:
mafia kill HF because bats is a dumb town.
Because mafia only need to have 3 votes while 1 town isn't voting. to win. Will holyflare be active end of day to win the game for town? YES will bats do fuck all? who knows. I think I found someone who can reason why LITERALLY ANYONE could and would kill HF. But That reason doesn't work for Both a team of Obi + storr. Because HF is going to tunnel Haru this day.
You have no idea what HF would or wouldn't have done. As I said that reason works for every possible scumteam.
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On October 03 2014 04:41 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 04:38 StorrZerg wrote:On October 03 2014 04:24 justanothertownie wrote:On October 03 2014 04:20 StorrZerg wrote:
See ve, you can't explain why I would be killing HF, because i have 0 motivation. Its clear as day on end of day 3 that HF was not going to be pushing me if Sky flipped town.
And NO ONE can reason why a team of obi + myself is even possible with the death of HF.
BOOM HEAD SHOT On October 02 2014 23:00 StorrZerg wrote:
mafia kill HF because bats is a dumb town.
Because mafia only need to have 3 votes while 1 town isn't voting. to win. Will holyflare be active end of day to win the game for town? YES will bats do fuck all? who knows. I think I found someone who can reason why LITERALLY ANYONE could and would kill HF. But That reason doesn't work for Both a team of Obi + storr. Because HF is going to tunnel Haru this day. You have no idea what HF would or wouldn't have done. As I said that reason works for every possible scumteam.
no shit, but its clear some assumptions can be made.
And some of these assumptions make VERY LOGICAL sense.
Holy would have gone after haru today. that is far from "guessing" at what he would do.
Holy would NOT be looking at me, looking at his conditionals for the sky lynch.
That is not hard to figure out.
Still you can remove all this. And still look that a scum team of obi, storr CANNOT kill HF. who is the only other "unknown" at the time who pushed palmar.
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He wasn't going to TUNNEL me today, he'd be LOOKING at me today Storr - like, you CAN'T say that you know what Holy would do because Holy is DEAD! You can say "Oh look at EoD3 it's all there!"....EXCEPT ITS NOT! I'M not there, SKY is STILL there AND a question mark, YOU haven't tunneled the most townie individual at that time. NO ONE can know what Holy would do today except for Holy because Holy is dead. That's a fact. It's not absurd to think like that, THAT IS HOW YOU THINK IN THIS GAME! THATS WHY MAFIA KILL PEOPLE! BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO HEAR WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY NEXT!!! Or some other reason. Who knows? Not me. Know why? I'm town.
Like, you keep saying the fact that Holy would be "on Haru today" CLEARS you and INCRIMINATES me in some way - THAT IS EXACTLY WHY YOU KILL HOLYFLARE THAT NIGHT DUDE!!! I kill townies who call me town all the time as scum. And I consider my scumplay to be at the very least above average. Know why? Because they DIE with that on their lips! Because I can say later "Hey look at this CONFIRMED TOWN call me town! Better listen to the reads of the dead!!"
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You're approaching this game from a defensive standpoint - from a standpoint of "It can't be me, look over there!!!" I'm looking at it from a standpoint of "These things don't make sense to me, so I think it's that guy!"
ONE OF THEM IS MAFIA SIDED AND ONE OF THEM IS TOWN SIDED!
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