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On August 25 2014 11:04 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2014 11:02 Hapahauli wrote:On August 25 2014 10:40 VayneAuthority wrote:
ill get this out of the way and claim then since it will make the game considerably easier imo.
im a jack of all trades, have the option to cop check, roleblock, or watch some one. Can only use 2 of the three.
Last night I RB'ed damdred so he cant be the SK, but could be the mafia that didnt turn in the kill. Will probably use my cop check tomorrow on some one else but I dont think it will matter Why on earth wouldn't you use your cop check first? I wanted to block a shot since I was pretty convinced damdred is mafia, which is more valuable then simply finding out some one is mafia. I dont see why you would ask that seems obvious to me
I really wish you would of used your cop check first it would of cleared myself made the lynch easier and cleared you also
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On August 25 2014 09:37 Hapahauli wrote:DamdredThis one's shorter. Firstly, his vote yesterday was by far the worst in the thread: Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 08:48 Damdred wrote:
##Vote Xatalos
This just feels like a mislynch on yamato being pushed. Xatalos feels the most scummy in the whole thread maybe he is town and i'm totally misreading him (again) but I don't like this lynch He's voting Xatalos because he thinks Yamato is town, and Xatalos scummy but Damdred "could be misreading him." Yeah no. He also posted a lot in the Night 1 discussion and literally all of it was irrelevant. Start at the bottom of Page 6 of his filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/465098-guilty-mini-mafia?user=Damdred&page=6...and work your way to page 7. He's asking questions to Xatalos, commenting/replying to random things... but that's it. No attempt to analyze vote counts, no attempt to make sense of the lynch, and really no attempt to do anything but a very awkward tunnel on Xata.
1)I think the initial vote is bad reasoning weak in this post indeed hurried and awkward and weak in this post. My follow up posts and some of my posts before that pointed out a lot of scummy things about Xatalos that led me to the vote and I clarified my position in subsequent posts. Also yea I shouldn't of put could be misreading him, but its just simple fact I have a history of totally misreading Xata, but his posts are scummy and I still stand by that.
2) I'm confused about this point it does not really seem like much is going on here. I had several conversations in the thread to get a better feel for what people were thinking EOD, I did it to Kel and I did it to Xata, almost nobody else was prevalent in the thread. And... I really didn't see much of any conversations going on about vote count analyzing besides the obvious, the lynch has to be within the people not voteing on robik, which is obvious and nothing else was really discussed because its open and shut. What is their to make sense of exactly, we got mafia. I tried to make sense of what people were posting during the EOD and why votes ended up where they did but when people aren't their talking.
In conclusion, for being one of the strongest scum reads that Hapa has this case is really flimsy and honestly bad. Theres no real analyzing of posts that I made just his vote was bad and look at this filter its so irrelevant. Nothing i've actually done was brought up (besides voteing on xata and having an awkward tunnel that I said I would back off of soon as Xata answered my last question or statement which I will). Also theres plenty of things in my filter to go for but why isn't it here spent a couple of posts on wave actually analyzing but no actual analyse on me.
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Vayne if your claim is true, I just think Cop is a better action becasue if you are right and I am mafia or SK instead of just blocking a KP you instead take out a red player which is more valuable. And if I came up green it would be one less person up for lynch
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Well if you blocked me and the sk didn't act its pretty apparent i'm red, but can't tell on mafia
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On August 25 2014 11:53 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2014 11:43 Damdred wrote:
Well if you blocked me and the sk didn't act its pretty apparent i'm red, but can't tell on mafia Couldn't understand you. Two people died tonight
It was an add on to my above post, If he blocked me and there was no sk shot (hypothetical situation) then it would be decently clear and a good lynch on me. If he blocked me and the two kills still went through (hypothetical) then nothing was gained from the block just that I was not the sk. However, If he would of Cop Checked me instead the thread would know for sure if I was red or green due to the information being complete rather than partial
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Yes the claim stinks. If he had actual useful information then his timing of the claim would look better as of now if the claim is true all we know is that I am not the Sk. So you open yourself up for the night kill just so you can tell the thread, "Hey guys Damdred isn't the Sk but he still could be mafia". I do not see the thought process behind the claim at all or a valid reason to claim a few hours into the day cycle, since honestly the vote swing would of probably went away from Vayne.
The PR claim in itself is interesting, I like roles like this I love seeing them in the game but it just does not make logical sense with what we know about the game at this point. We know that their are claimed Masons whos alignment is confirmed to one another, we have JAT as a JK. The powers just do not make a lot of sense to me.
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I missed that, yes it makes more sense now that I read Robiks pm.
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I'm reminded in Titanic when Vayne claimed the shot on Rayn even though Batsnacks did it and almost got himself lynched doing that.
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I'm curious what else wave is going to bring up, and yes my filter is bigger than the other games. Neat and tidy could of ended up this big but died night 1 with silent nights and the game wasn't as talkative. You are also missing Arnie in your chart so not sure how that one stacks up but I doubt its much different form the others.
But yea i'm trying to become more talkative in games while giving more opinions. But god some of those games I was terrible in I want to give you a hug for reading some of that.
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I don't know if i've ever had someone go and dive my other games like that to get a read on my play Wave.
While everyone is free to interpret from the case that wave posted I am really tired of being misrepresented on TL. At first I could understand it in the previous games as I thought that my play was poor due to being new and not posting much and just trying to get a feel of how to play here so felt like I deserved it.
In N&T not much if any suspicion was thrown my way but I died Night 1 (silent nights) so didn't really have much time for anything to be thrown my way. Arnie got me upset at points because people wouldn't listen or really comment on the things I posted and it really annoyed me with Xata eventually helping mafia mislynching me for reasons I still don't really understand besides me scum reading him the previous day and him not thinking about other cases on the other people still alive. I guess Rayn just sent me over the edge a bit, it was an utter disregard for everything I was posting and felt like he was not even reading the thread to a point. All he did over and over again was say I wasn't posting anything and I went along with everyone. It made me furious and just went off. So yea its probably a bit of 1&3 in my mind.
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well going to bed i'll be back in a few hours
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Was town in arnie....and got stopped once reading while driving ticket wasn't to bad. So i just dont post and drive or read at the same time safer and less ecpensive
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It makes sense that Hapa is the serial killer. Almost every case that has been constructed is a bit weaker then something I would normally look for. The Rayn case early in the game was at an odd time as it threw the game into a bit of disfunction that took a bit to sort out and the case was easily retractable after a good bit of Rayn spam that convinced him that he was town. In fact almost all of the cases Hap has put down are pretty easily retractable or pushable giving the situation but mostly the cases seem to be built around misrepresentation.
At this point i'd say reviewing just the cases Hap pushes he really doesn't care who he kills just that someone dies.
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I don't know if VA is scum, I don't like the timing of the claim or the skill he used but I am not positive that its a fake claim.
And everyone keeps pointing to my vote being bad (everyone being a generalization), I had thought process before and after the vote that needs to be taken into consideration. I think its a non reason to push me for lynch.
I would be ok with a hapa or a Oneg lynch today I think depending on how both respond to the thread and how Vayne continues to interact in the thread will determine where my vote goes I think.
Also Xata do you really think that hapas cases are true scum hunting? point me to a strong case I mean one that is really strong.
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The only thing that would probably make me give me the most hold is if more people claimed blue. But atm he's not the lynch at all i think.
xata been pocketed by hapa who he says has been svum hunting super hard....but the only good case is a towncase he made....
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But xata you said oneg case on rayn was great and insiteful. Now your post is laced with sarcasm on what you once trumpeted, find it ironic now you are now saying everything i badically said on oneg a day later XD
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So all of the posts. that say you are the sk you pick yamatos post to lol at then you say something everyone else in the thread has already agreed with. ok any other thoughts about you being sk hap? The weak cases you presented that you can tetraact and get off of easily. How about ehere hour vote went on when me and wave were your stronger reads
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Rob was shenanigans though. nobody even was talking about him. Also why did you vote vayne when you had two people as stronger scum reads at the time
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Hap did you read the thread where everyone has said that?
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Quick question statement:
Some of the thread won't lynch into a PR claim such as VAs when it does make a bit of sense. Why is it horrible here to CC him if you are blue? A 1:1 trade is not the worst thing when we already have confirmed other roles and mafia would be down to 1.
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