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On August 24 2014 02:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:You're bad. 
Yeah I'm well aware that you think so. There's nobody in mafia better than you hapa and marv /dicktug
Fact is though, marv at least gets results a lot of the time, without having to resort to what you seem to have to. And even then, he is perfectly capable of completely fucking up a game---see Heavyweight Championships.
Even if I were town in that game I can say with absolute certainty I would not follow marv blind into a lynch like the rest of everyone did, and I never will. The same thing applies now. The fact that you spam and feel the need to try and force town into it in fact makes me want to lynch hapa less just to spite you.
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On August 24 2014 02:05 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 02:02 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 24 2014 02:00 KelsierSC wrote:
Also it isn't just they have the same read but it is the style of the read.
so for example. I like you because you have the same read on yamata but also you offer some insight into why you have the read and it didn't feel like you were sheeping anyone else so it felt towny to me. What do you consider sheeping? Is it something town or scum do? When and why? Sheeping is what I think Yam and Xat did with the Hapa read because they didn't really add anything to the original points and just hopped on a bw. It feels scummy to me. They do it if they want to push a ML.
Alright, say you're town and have no strong reads at the end of the day. You have a near-confirmed-but-not-quite townie on your team. How do you vote?
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I agree with you Kel that, it felt weird but it fit with how the thread was heading to at that point. I just hesitate especially to lynch the biggest filter today
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On August 24 2014 02:07 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 02:05 KelsierSC wrote:On August 24 2014 02:02 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 24 2014 02:00 KelsierSC wrote:
Also it isn't just they have the same read but it is the style of the read.
so for example. I like you because you have the same read on yamata but also you offer some insight into why you have the read and it didn't feel like you were sheeping anyone else so it felt towny to me. What do you consider sheeping? Is it something town or scum do? When and why? Sheeping is what I think Yam and Xat did with the Hapa read because they didn't really add anything to the original points and just hopped on a bw. It feels scummy to me. They do it if they want to push a ML. Alright, say you're town and have no strong reads at the end of the day. You have a near-confirmed-but-not-quite townie on your team. How do you vote?
It is nice that you are lecturing him but is this supposed to lead anywhere?
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On August 24 2014 02:09 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 02:07 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 24 2014 02:05 KelsierSC wrote:On August 24 2014 02:02 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 24 2014 02:00 KelsierSC wrote:
Also it isn't just they have the same read but it is the style of the read.
so for example. I like you because you have the same read on yamata but also you offer some insight into why you have the read and it didn't feel like you were sheeping anyone else so it felt towny to me. What do you consider sheeping? Is it something town or scum do? When and why? Sheeping is what I think Yam and Xat did with the Hapa read because they didn't really add anything to the original points and just hopped on a bw. It feels scummy to me. They do it if they want to push a ML. Alright, say you're town and have no strong reads at the end of the day. You have a near-confirmed-but-not-quite townie on your team. How do you vote? It is nice that you are lecturing him but is this supposed to lead anywhere?
Of course. I'm cementing my handle on his play.
JAT who are you voting today?
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On August 24 2014 02:10 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 02:09 justanothertownie wrote:On August 24 2014 02:07 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 24 2014 02:05 KelsierSC wrote:On August 24 2014 02:02 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 24 2014 02:00 KelsierSC wrote:
Also it isn't just they have the same read but it is the style of the read.
so for example. I like you because you have the same read on yamata but also you offer some insight into why you have the read and it didn't feel like you were sheeping anyone else so it felt towny to me. What do you consider sheeping? Is it something town or scum do? When and why? Sheeping is what I think Yam and Xat did with the Hapa read because they didn't really add anything to the original points and just hopped on a bw. It feels scummy to me. They do it if they want to push a ML. Alright, say you're town and have no strong reads at the end of the day. You have a near-confirmed-but-not-quite townie on your team. How do you vote? It is nice that you are lecturing him but is this supposed to lead anywhere? Of course. I'm cementing my handle on his play. JAT who are you voting today?
That's a decision I won't make right now. I want to hear from Hapa first.
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On August 24 2014 02:11 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 02:10 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 24 2014 02:09 justanothertownie wrote:On August 24 2014 02:07 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 24 2014 02:05 KelsierSC wrote:On August 24 2014 02:02 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 24 2014 02:00 KelsierSC wrote:
Also it isn't just they have the same read but it is the style of the read.
so for example. I like you because you have the same read on yamata but also you offer some insight into why you have the read and it didn't feel like you were sheeping anyone else so it felt towny to me. What do you consider sheeping? Is it something town or scum do? When and why? Sheeping is what I think Yam and Xat did with the Hapa read because they didn't really add anything to the original points and just hopped on a bw. It feels scummy to me. They do it if they want to push a ML. Alright, say you're town and have no strong reads at the end of the day. You have a near-confirmed-but-not-quite townie on your team. How do you vote? It is nice that you are lecturing him but is this supposed to lead anywhere? Of course. I'm cementing my handle on his play. JAT who are you voting today? That's a decision I won't make right now. I want to hear from Hapa first.
So you are leaning towards Hapa?
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On August 24 2014 02:07 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 02:05 KelsierSC wrote:On August 24 2014 02:02 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 24 2014 02:00 KelsierSC wrote:
Also it isn't just they have the same read but it is the style of the read.
so for example. I like you because you have the same read on yamata but also you offer some insight into why you have the read and it didn't feel like you were sheeping anyone else so it felt towny to me. What do you consider sheeping? Is it something town or scum do? When and why? Sheeping is what I think Yam and Xat did with the Hapa read because they didn't really add anything to the original points and just hopped on a bw. It feels scummy to me. They do it if they want to push a ML. Alright, say you're town and have no strong reads at the end of the day. You have a near-confirmed-but-not-quite townie on your team. How do you vote?
If by the end of the day I had no strong reads I would probably just suicide for being useless.
In all seriousness yes I would probably vote along with the confirmed town..
Was that the case in this situation? It was not near the end of day and it was the FIRST post Hapa had made, he was nowhere near confirmed.
Dam what is your read on WoS now?
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On August 24 2014 02:12 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 02:11 justanothertownie wrote:On August 24 2014 02:10 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 24 2014 02:09 justanothertownie wrote:On August 24 2014 02:07 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 24 2014 02:05 KelsierSC wrote:On August 24 2014 02:02 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 24 2014 02:00 KelsierSC wrote:
Also it isn't just they have the same read but it is the style of the read.
so for example. I like you because you have the same read on yamata but also you offer some insight into why you have the read and it didn't feel like you were sheeping anyone else so it felt towny to me. What do you consider sheeping? Is it something town or scum do? When and why? Sheeping is what I think Yam and Xat did with the Hapa read because they didn't really add anything to the original points and just hopped on a bw. It feels scummy to me. They do it if they want to push a ML. Alright, say you're town and have no strong reads at the end of the day. You have a near-confirmed-but-not-quite townie on your team. How do you vote? It is nice that you are lecturing him but is this supposed to lead anywhere? Of course. I'm cementing my handle on his play. JAT who are you voting today? That's a decision I won't make right now. I want to hear from Hapa first. So you are leaning towards Hapa?
I am leaning towards nothing right now. Yamato could be a decent lynch. Maybe Xatalos. You aren't off the table either,
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On August 24 2014 02:14 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 02:12 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 24 2014 02:11 justanothertownie wrote:On August 24 2014 02:10 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 24 2014 02:09 justanothertownie wrote:On August 24 2014 02:07 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 24 2014 02:05 KelsierSC wrote:On August 24 2014 02:02 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 24 2014 02:00 KelsierSC wrote:
Also it isn't just they have the same read but it is the style of the read.
so for example. I like you because you have the same read on yamata but also you offer some insight into why you have the read and it didn't feel like you were sheeping anyone else so it felt towny to me. What do you consider sheeping? Is it something town or scum do? When and why? Sheeping is what I think Yam and Xat did with the Hapa read because they didn't really add anything to the original points and just hopped on a bw. It feels scummy to me. They do it if they want to push a ML. Alright, say you're town and have no strong reads at the end of the day. You have a near-confirmed-but-not-quite townie on your team. How do you vote? It is nice that you are lecturing him but is this supposed to lead anywhere? Of course. I'm cementing my handle on his play. JAT who are you voting today? That's a decision I won't make right now. I want to hear from Hapa first. So you are leaning towards Hapa? I am leaning towards nothing right now. Yamato could be a decent lynch. Maybe Xatalos. You aren't off the table either,
How decisive you are.
On August 24 2014 02:12 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 02:07 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 24 2014 02:05 KelsierSC wrote:On August 24 2014 02:02 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 24 2014 02:00 KelsierSC wrote:
Also it isn't just they have the same read but it is the style of the read.
so for example. I like you because you have the same read on yamata but also you offer some insight into why you have the read and it didn't feel like you were sheeping anyone else so it felt towny to me. What do you consider sheeping? Is it something town or scum do? When and why? Sheeping is what I think Yam and Xat did with the Hapa read because they didn't really add anything to the original points and just hopped on a bw. It feels scummy to me. They do it if they want to push a ML. Alright, say you're town and have no strong reads at the end of the day. You have a near-confirmed-but-not-quite townie on your team. How do you vote? If by the end of the day I had no strong reads I would probably just suicide for being useless. In all seriousness yes I would probably vote along with the confirmed town.. Was that the case in this situation? It was not near the end of day and it was the FIRST post Hapa had made, he was nowhere near confirmed. Dam what is your read on WoS now?
No that's not the case in this situation...you didn't exactly get what I was going for either because I was trying to make it extremely hypothetical. I didn't say confirmed town, I said near in that there's a chance said person could still be scum, but whatever. I have what i need from you 
No lynchy.
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On August 24 2014 01:22 KelsierSC wrote:
As for my reads
Town - Dam,GB,Turtle,JAT,VA,WoS,rayn,Hapa
Scum - Yam,Xat
null - Onegu
Obviously one of town reads is wrong but for d1 i like to make a big town circle and eliminate from there.
I'd like explanations as well but I'll go with this and examine the similarities and differences. Apparently a big reason for you to scumread me is that our "reads are different" so this should at last put your argument to rest.
GB/turtlevine - obviously agreed
WOS/Hapa/jat - agreed
Damdred - somewhat agreed but I think there's a chance he could be scum - definitely not for the reasons rayn mentioned though, and not a lynch candidate for now - town?
VA - apparently serious VA = scum VA, I don't really know VA that well but I wouldn't at least townread him so easily - scum?
rayn - pretty hard to townread him when he's constantly brought BS arguments against me, ignored his own strategy to read me (probably because it would just make me look good), softpushed / validated his reads from the thread, pushed a REALLY bad case against Damdred etc. - scum
yamato - useless yamato isn't necessarily scum yamato, and I think he's shown some of his townie characteristics... with that said his continued lurking and making these quick useless posts here and there doesn't look good so I'm not very confident to call him town anymore - nullish
Onegu - I think his entrance to the thread was good, not a fan of his repeated questions about the Masons though - town lean still
Overall if we ignore GB/turtlevine, we agree on 4 out of 8 reads and the only significant difference is rayn/VA. Why do you townread VA btw?
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Prome where are you? Play the game plz. I want some more insight on rayn and hapa, and you're better at meta shit than me.
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On August 24 2014 02:09 VayneAuthority wrote:
nah wave rayn is town.
Oh right and forgot about this.
Why?
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On August 24 2014 02:12 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 02:07 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 24 2014 02:05 KelsierSC wrote:On August 24 2014 02:02 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 24 2014 02:00 KelsierSC wrote:
Also it isn't just they have the same read but it is the style of the read.
so for example. I like you because you have the same read on yamata but also you offer some insight into why you have the read and it didn't feel like you were sheeping anyone else so it felt towny to me. What do you consider sheeping? Is it something town or scum do? When and why? Sheeping is what I think Yam and Xat did with the Hapa read because they didn't really add anything to the original points and just hopped on a bw. It feels scummy to me. They do it if they want to push a ML. Alright, say you're town and have no strong reads at the end of the day. You have a near-confirmed-but-not-quite townie on your team. How do you vote? If by the end of the day I had no strong reads I would probably just suicide for being useless. In all seriousness yes I would probably vote along with the confirmed town.. Was that the case in this situation? It was not near the end of day and it was the FIRST post Hapa had made, he was nowhere near confirmed. Dam what is your read on WoS now?
I'm actually going to go back on my original read. Hes actually being really logical and he seems to be helping and it seems to be coming form a town position. I like him a lot better than I did earlier in the thread at this point.
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On August 24 2014 02:01 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2014 23:47 Xatalos wrote:
Yeah that's pretty much the worst / most incorrect possible reason to scumread Damdred. Actually even during the big spamfest he only posted original stuff and didn't sheep anything... That's just an unacceptable reason rayn. Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 00:09 Xatalos wrote:On August 23 2014 23:53 KelsierSC wrote:On August 23 2014 23:10 Xatalos wrote:On August 23 2014 22:54 KelsierSC wrote:On August 23 2014 21:47 Xatalos wrote:On August 23 2014 21:18 KelsierSC wrote:On August 23 2014 20:55 Xatalos wrote:On August 23 2014 20:54 KelsierSC wrote:On August 23 2014 20:27 Xatalos wrote:
So KSC you're scumreading me because 1) I'm townreading yamato 2) pushing rayn? That's really weak... Besides I already explained to you that I didn't notice rayn's softpush on yamato earlier, or maybe I noticed it but forgot it soon after... Dunno how that makes me scum. And the Damdred thing only happened AFTER I nullread rayn so that + the yamato thing Hapa noticed made me vote. It is more than that though and you trying to simplify it to make it look weak is really fucking scummy Well I already completely destroyed your earlier "case" and that's what was left of it on your most recent post about me. Completely destroyed? This never happened at all. You gave some non sensical posts about "forgetting to push" let's be real. With one of your arguments being factually false, one of them being a nulltell rather than scumtell, and the others actually being towntells (for me, not in general), I think it's pretty destroyed. This fallacy that you destroyed my argument is completely ridiculous. 1) The older points that you are scum still exist. You had a terrible first list post I didn't like any of your reads, to me that means you are not reading the game correctly that makes you scum to me and a good lynch. I didn't like your weird Dam interactions and also you had a bunch of null reads with everyone either "maybe town could be scum" like it is just non commital gibberish. 2) The main sticking point is when Hapa came out with his read, you had called rayn maybe town, but then as soon as hapa came out you jumped on it and you sheeped all his reasons. ESPECIALLY the "attack" on yamato which apparently hadn't noticed. 3) You then gave a bunch of shitty reasons why yam is town a lot of them were just factually incorrect about how he is giving his reads and seems up for this game which just isn't true, like yam is really scummy to me and you having the same read as him and reading him town is really scummy. 4) This is just my personal opinion here but you seem to be trying to make a lot of posts to seem town but a lot of them are just nothing. Like "where is robik, this is weird" It gives the impression you are trying to figure things out but it is just a lot of garbage trying to throw suspicon. 5 ll of my reads besides the Masons are now -1, 0, 1 or 2 points This is what bugs me, you are really happy to sheep any read you get but you have none of those people as your town. 1) Actually wrong reads (especially very early, initial reads) come more often from town. As scum you have perfect information so it's easy to make your reads somewhat believable. I always craft my reads carefully as scum to be as believable and focused as possible. So I don't really see your point here even if you're somehow right about everything and I'm wrong about everything (no way). The Damdred vote was just something to start the day with, nothing that serious. Btw my notes were my real-time thoughts as I read the thread and nothing like a case or anything. Hard to be immediately 100% sure early on as you read stuff. 2) False. I never called rayn town or even "maybe town". At best null. What you're exaggerating is when I said that "I could see the town motivation behind making that stunt". That's not even any longer the case since clearly there was none - he immediately abandoned the whole idea since my notes matched with my play and there was nothing to push me with. 3) Just stupid. Experienced scum players NEVER, I repeat NEVER do stuff like hard-defend each other and push stuff together. It's about the same as claiming Masons together. This is what gets newb scumteams killed. 4) Go read Arnie Got a Gun Mafia if you think fluff posts indicate scum Xatalos. 5) +2 towny is already somewhat town. And if the argument is good, it's not like I have to 100% townread the one who presented it. Explain why you townread yamato though your reasons dont make sense why were you so happy to sheep hapas read i dont really need to read other games, it isnt hard to mimic your town play if your town play is to have no reads what so ever. Again, he's absolutely useless and unmotivated as scum. He doesn't show emotion. That's from my experience. I don't like how he's lurking so much and avoiding hot topics of discussion though, plus Hapa made some decent points about how he doesn't have real confidence in his reads and how he leaves the thread at crucial points. So currently he's only +1 and he will drop further if his lurking behavior continues. I've been concerned about rayn all game and I've never thought he's town, something I've ALWAYS concluded at some point during D1 if he's town. However, I didn't want to lynch him based on a gut feeling because 1) he'd be an NK magnet as town 2) he could become a real asset as town at some point. Then he did a really shady push on Damdred where I really doubt he even believed in it himself (all his arguments were just wrong / misinterpreted). I was really wavering on believing he could possibly be town. Just then Hapa came out with an additional point pointing to scum rayn and I decided that I'd rather lynch probable scum rather than flip a coin (on yamato who had barely posted at that point, and actually yamato returned to the thread around then as well while showing some of his towny traits - emotion, constantly posting stuff etc.). So that's why. I'd hardly say I have "no reads whatsoever" when I townread you and scumread rayn. My other reads are still under evaluation. Onegu is probably town too though because he instantly focused on figuring out the game when he started posting earlier. As scum he's pretty... unfocused. Oh god.... can you actually start taking a stance on ANYTHING?
Says the Switzerland  Besides I can't even understand what you mean here.
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On August 24 2014 02:18 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 01:22 KelsierSC wrote:
As for my reads
Town - Dam,GB,Turtle,JAT,VA,WoS,rayn,Hapa
Scum - Yam,Xat
null - Onegu
Obviously one of town reads is wrong but for d1 i like to make a big town circle and eliminate from there.
I'd like explanations as well but I'll go with this and examine the similarities and differences. Apparently a big reason for you to scumread me is that our "reads are different" so this should at last put your argument to rest. GB/turtlevine - obviously agreed WOS/Hapa/jat - agreed Damdred - somewhat agreed but I think there's a chance he could be scum - definitely not for the reasons rayn mentioned though, and not a lynch candidate for now - town? VA - apparently serious VA = scum VA, I don't really know VA that well but I wouldn't at least townread him so easily - scum? rayn - pretty hard to townread him when he's constantly brought BS arguments against me, ignored his own strategy to read me (probably because it would just make me look good), softpushed / validated his reads from the thread, pushed a REALLY bad case against Damdred etc. - scum yamato - useless yamato isn't necessarily scum yamato, and I think he's shown some of his townie characteristics... with that said his continued lurking and making these quick useless posts here and there doesn't look good so I'm not very confident to call him town anymore - nullish Onegu - I think his entrance to the thread was good, not a fan of his repeated questions about the Masons though - town lean still Overall if we ignore GB/turtlevine, we agree on 4 out of 8 reads and the only significant difference is rayn/VA. Why do you townread VA btw?
I know you were asked to do this, but I absolutely hate this post.
Can't even pinpoint why.
lol maybe rayn has solved the game
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On August 24 2014 02:19 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 02:12 KelsierSC wrote:On August 24 2014 02:07 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 24 2014 02:05 KelsierSC wrote:On August 24 2014 02:02 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 24 2014 02:00 KelsierSC wrote:
Also it isn't just they have the same read but it is the style of the read.
so for example. I like you because you have the same read on yamata but also you offer some insight into why you have the read and it didn't feel like you were sheeping anyone else so it felt towny to me. What do you consider sheeping? Is it something town or scum do? When and why? Sheeping is what I think Yam and Xat did with the Hapa read because they didn't really add anything to the original points and just hopped on a bw. It feels scummy to me. They do it if they want to push a ML. Alright, say you're town and have no strong reads at the end of the day. You have a near-confirmed-but-not-quite townie on your team. How do you vote? If by the end of the day I had no strong reads I would probably just suicide for being useless. In all seriousness yes I would probably vote along with the confirmed town.. Was that the case in this situation? It was not near the end of day and it was the FIRST post Hapa had made, he was nowhere near confirmed. Dam what is your read on WoS now? I'm actually going to go back on my original read. Hes actually being really logical and he seems to be helping and it seems to be coming form a town position. I like him a lot better than I did earlier in the thread at this point.
More backdown, not that I'm surprised. Filtering you right now. You're either on the table for me or off.
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On August 24 2014 02:05 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 02:02 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 24 2014 02:00 KelsierSC wrote:
Also it isn't just they have the same read but it is the style of the read.
so for example. I like you because you have the same read on yamata but also you offer some insight into why you have the read and it didn't feel like you were sheeping anyone else so it felt towny to me. What do you consider sheeping? Is it something town or scum do? When and why? Sheeping is what I think Yam and Xat did with the Hapa read because they didn't really add anything to the original points and just hopped on a bw. It feels scummy to me. They do it if they want to push a ML.
In fact Hapa only added one argument against rayn and I have several more.
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Counting of votes:
raynpelikoneet (2): IAmRobik, Hapahauli, Xatalos, GlowingBear, Onegu
GlowingBear (0): raynpelikoneet
turtlevine (0): GlowingBear
yamato77 (0): Xatalos, Hapahauli, WaveOfShadow
Damdred (1): Xatalos, raynpelikoneet, VayneAuthority
Xatalos (2): turtlevine, raynpelikoneet, KelsierSC
Hapahauli (2): raynpelikoneet, GlowingBear
WaveOfShadow (0): raynpelikoneet
Onegu (0): IAmRobik
Not voting (4): justanothertownie, yamato77, Damdred, Hapahauli
Deadline is Sunday, Aug 24 1:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ).
I won't be around for the next 6-7 hours so there may or may not be no vote updates in the meantime.
+ Show Spoiler [Vote counter log] +VOTE: IAmRobik voted raynscumimpolite (raynpelikoneet) ( post) VOTE: raynpelikoneet voted WaveofShadow (WaveOfShadow) ( post) VOTE: Xatalos voted Damdred ( post) VOTE: IAmRobik unvoted raynpelikoneet ( post) VOTE: GlowingBear voted Turtlevine (turtlevine) ( post) VOTE: Xatalos unvoted Damdred ( post) VOTE: raynpelikoneet unvoted WaveOfShadow ( post) VOTE: raynpelikoneet voted GlowingBear ( post) VOTE: turtlevine voted xatalos (Xatalos) ( post) VOTE: raynpelikoneet unvoted GlowingBear ( post) VOTE: raynpelikoneet voted Xatalos ( post) VOTE: Xatalos voted yamato77 ( post) VOTE: raynpelikoneet unvoted Xatalos ( post) VOTE: raynpelikoneet voted Damdred ( post) VOTE: Hapahauli voted Raynpelikoneet (raynpelikoneet) ( post) VOTE: Xatalos unvoted yamato77 ( post) VOTE: Xatalos voted raynpelikoneet ( post) VOTE: KelsierSC voted Xatalos ( post) VOTE: raynpelikoneet unvoted Damdred ( post) VOTE: raynpelikoneet voted Hapahauli ( post) VOTE: VayneAuthority voted Damdred ( post) WARNING: GlowingBear changed vote without unvote ( post) VOTE: GlowingBear unvoted turtlevine ( post) VOTE: GlowingBear voted rayn pelican eater (raynpelikoneet) ( post) VOTE: Hapahauli unvoted raynpelikoneet ( post) VOTE: Hapahauli voted Yamato (yamato77) ( post) WARNING: GlowingBear changed vote without unvote ( post) VOTE: GlowingBear unvoted raynpelikoneet ( post) VOTE: GlowingBear voted Hapahauli ( post) VOTE: Hapahauli unvoted yamato77 ( post) VOTE: Onegu voted raynpelikoneet ( post) VOTE: IAmRobik voted Onegu ( post) VOTE: WaveOfShadow voted yamato77 ( post)
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