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Blazinghand *
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United States25550 Posts
July 29 2014 22:43 GMT
#5
/in
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United States25550 Posts
August 07 2014 17:11 GMT
#48
Don't worry town wins easily this time because I'm here
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
August 07 2014 20:08 GMT
#53
On August 08 2014 05:07 kushm4sta wrote:
I don't really get the mayor mechanic. It seems like there is a theoretically best way to order the groups. The groups with the least activity go first. So what is the point of the mayor deciding them?

isn't the best way to order groups literally the opposite of this
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United States25550 Posts
August 20 2014 00:11 GMT
#168
As a general rule, don't talk about games in progress outside the game thread or the Obs QT for the game (if you are dead).
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
August 28 2014 01:36 GMT
#335
don't listen to any of this lunkheads. vote me. here's the order I'll use:

D
E
A
B
C


This is because we want put off C and B, which contain high activity players, to the end. We want informed and loud players guiding the lynches as long as possible. D is most likely to be awful with mtamburini and 2 smurfs, and E is only marginally better, but I trust 27nb to put out some decent posting levels. I'm not as familiar with rito and batsnacks, but I carry some weight so my group will be third, and C and B with the heavy hitters who can lead a town for 4-5 lynches will be last where they belong.

TL/DR vote me if you wand DEABC order, it's the best because it keeps the players who are noteworthy for their ability to lead towns (marv is the best example of this) alive for as long as possible. Bear in mind that scum will want us to go through the groups that have potentially valuable townies in them first, since once a cell is done it's all over

A vote for BH is a vote for DEABC
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United States25550 Posts
August 28 2014 01:38 GMT
#339
The objectively best order is DEABC. vote me for DEABC. I won't vote for any leader who doesn't promise DEABC or something close to it.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
August 28 2014 01:44 GMT
#346
On August 28 2014 10:40 Holyflare wrote:
Like BH just flat out said he wants the people that can lead town last but doesn't even contemplate that they could be mafia?


Only one person per group is mafia, so I don't see the problem. Even if Marv is mafia it's not like there's any chance he'd be lynched if his group went first ANYWAYS. The only way scum marv would get lynched is if his group went last and people had time to figure out his alignment.

Look, In every game, scum always wants to shoot marv right away cause that's how dangeorus he is. if you really think that he shouldn't be in the very last group, that's your own prerogative, but I'm not convinced just based on "well, marv could be mafia", which is a statement that could be applied to anyone.
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Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
August 28 2014 01:48 GMT
#352
On August 28 2014 10:43 Amiko wrote:
@BH:
I do not disagree with the logic behind the ordering, but you ignore what (I think) is more important - that we are guaranteed to reach at least Day 3, but not Day 5.
So let me ask you this - which groups do you think are likely to be the easiest to read? The hardest?


This is a valid point. I expect the smurf group to be hard to read regardless, whether it goes first or last. Honestly, given that we could potentially lose after the third lynch, which group goes 4th vs which group goes 5th is potentially irrelevant. The important thing is, I don't want me, marv, wos, or HF to be in the front 2 groups. I'd like all of us to be alive when we're tlaking about who to lynch out of the third group, because I think that having certain town organizers alive at the first potential LYLO is good.

I would be surprised if group D or E improved iwth time and became more legible. They're liabilities regardless, and honestly, if we're gonna mislynch into those two groups and one other group, the order doesn't matter, except that if we put them first we lose a little faster. The ADVANTAGE of putting them first is that our strong players get to live longer, and either lead the town, or prove themselves town. A guy like me or marv, when playing scum, never gets caught D1 or D2. Even in the event a vet I'm tlaking about here is scum, it's still better to put them later because we'd never catch them unless we had time to hear them talk more.

it's a good point though.
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Blazinghand *
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United States25550 Posts
August 28 2014 01:49 GMT
#353
On August 28 2014 10:48 Not really holyflare wrote:
Thats why we go DACBE.
C for guaranteed 1 scum lynch (unless marv derps) while A and D goes first. B for more risks and E being the most risky group to lynch into.



I haven't read the thread, because none of you worms are close enough to my level to merit my attention, and today is a lynch day. However, this statement intrigues me. Why do we have a guaranteed scum lynch in C?
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Blazinghand *
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United States25550 Posts
August 28 2014 01:56 GMT
#364
On August 28 2014 10:54 Amiko wrote:
@BH:

I feel like your ordering is strongly based on the idea that marv will lead lynches in a good way / scumhunt well.

But, even under that approach isn't it beneficial to put Cell C before D5? That way at least there's some indication as to the authenticity of marv's reads.


You mean something like DEACB? It's plausible, and I would not be opposed to it. Why don't you run on the DEACB platform, and I'll run on DEABC, and I promise to throw my votes your way if you're ahead of me close to the deadline (and vice versa) so that a DEA B/C order wins?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
August 28 2014 01:59 GMT
#370
On August 28 2014 10:58 Not really holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 10:56 Blazinghand wrote:
On August 28 2014 10:54 Amiko wrote:
@BH:

I feel like your ordering is strongly based on the idea that marv will lead lynches in a good way / scumhunt well.

But, even under that approach isn't it beneficial to put Cell C before D5? That way at least there's some indication as to the authenticity of marv's reads.


You mean something like DEACB? It's plausible, and I would not be opposed to it. Why don't you run on the DEACB platform, and I'll run on DEABC, and I promise to throw my votes your way if you're ahead of me close to the deadline (and vice versa) so that a DEA B/C order wins?


No. C goes 3rd as that is the most pro town way to do it. C literally have the highest % chance to catch scum. A literally dont have as high of a chance. We don't need a 3 - 0 scum sweep. 3-1 is at least less embarrassing.


3-1 and 3-0 are both the same, which is a loss. I don't give a shit how we lose if we lose, I care about maximizing our chance to win. There's no honor or sportsmanship or bullshit like that in mafia, only winning and losing. The sooner you learn that the sooner you'll be good at this game like me.
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Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
August 28 2014 05:38 GMT
#386
all of you guys who are trying to order groups based on how easy or hard they are are missing the point. all that matters is which people we want to have alive at the end. NRHF would have the living people during day 4 be mtamb, NRFH, yourmom, empahty, lilwade, and nb. What the heck, man? these people don't need time to talk.

look, all this idea of ordering which groups are easy and which are hard is bullshit. If we're gonna mislynch 3 times, we're gonna mislynch 3 times regardless of the order, unless we optimize our order for who stays alive the longest and which groups will become more readable with time

The idea of putting a group in the back because it's hard to read isn't sensible, you only do this if you expect the group to become easier to read over time, or you want to preserve those voices to be around for a long time. NRHF's order would have marv, wos, hf, and me all silent during days 4 and 5. sure, it's possible it's irrelevant either way, and we'll win or lose after only 3 days, but the point remains.

You guys are all thinking about this SO wrongly it HURTS. Don't order groups based on how easy it is to read them, or how likely we are to get a town or scum lynch, order them on which groups would benefit (ie it would be easier to find scum in them) from more time, and which voices you want to keep alive for a long time. If Marv is scum, we want him alive for 5 days so we can figure him out, and if he's town, we want him alive for 5 days so he can figure out the game.

DO NOT OPTIMIZE FOR FRONTLOADING EASY LYNCHES. Instead, frontload lynches that will not benefit from the people being alive multiple days. Smurfs and low-activity players don't get more legible as time goes on. Marv? WoS? HF? Me? Do. We're the leaders. Put us in the back.

Sheesh. It's like nobody here even thinks remotely rationally about what setup is the best. I know you guys have critical thinking skills. You play mafia, you must. USE them.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
August 28 2014 17:05 GMT
#461
##vote: blazinghand

DEABC!

DEABC!

DEABC!
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
August 28 2014 23:09 GMT
#628
What the crap is wrong with you people
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
August 28 2014 23:19 GMT
#630
Wow I'm not even like a cop or something because of this setup. Is this what the meta is now? Vote BH for literally no reason? My order was great, it's not my fault your heads are stuck so far up your own bums that you can see your own stomachs and therefore think my order wasn't literally the optimal order.

At least you guys got the last 2 right.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
August 29 2014 00:09 GMT
#641
Why would I read you pathetic snivelling when I can just read my own posts, which are way better
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
August 29 2014 06:18 GMT
#736
WoS you're a flaming idiot

the fact of the matter is, in pregame I wasn't really apyint attention and wrote a post that seems ok on its surface, but when you pay attention is obviously false

then when the game starts and it's important to actually win, i figure out the optimal strategy and tell you nitwits to use it, and somehow that's scummy

if you want to lynch me for that, I am ocmpetely ok with that. I will do nothing. lync me

lynch me for figuring out a good strategy

you can apologize to me in the post game
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
August 29 2014 06:21 GMT
#737
I'm tired of dealing with your literal feces. come on and vote me. I'll solv ethe damn game like I always do and catch all the scum like I always do, and you'll alll hate me for it like you always do cause i'm do damn right

boew down before your master

hgrit your teeth and pretend to hate me but in your heart you know I am right
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
August 29 2014 17:53 GMT
#820
On August 29 2014 21:50 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2014 15:21 Blazinghand wrote:
I'm tired of dealing with your literal feces. come on and vote me. I'll solv ethe damn game like I always do and catch all the scum like I always do, and you'll alll hate me for it like you always do cause i'm do damn right

boew down before your master

hgrit your teeth and pretend to hate me but in your heart you know I am right

So far you've been in the thread on two distinct occasions since a few people voted for you.

Funnily enough, you never proffered a sliver of advice on who is mafia, whether it be from your group or the game.

"you know i am right"

right about what? You've not said anything to be right about. That's the problem.

Sorry, I'm moving to a new place this weekend and am like busy for the past 24 hours and the next 24 hours. You'll note, for example, that I didn't even vote in the mayoral election. Yup, this is an IRL excuse, but it also happens to be true. I know nothing about batsnacks and ritoky and haven't read their filters so I have no information to offer about them. Sorry!
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
August 29 2014 17:55 GMT
#821
I have no illusions about whether or not I'm getting lynched. I don't have time to defend myself, so I'm getting lynched today, mostly becasue all you guys are too umad about how much I beat you at mafia to play a reasonable game. Ah well! You can apologize to me in post game
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
August 29 2014 17:57 GMT
#823
On August 30 2014 00:03 Amiko wrote:
@BlazingHand
Why do you seem so upset about town not following your proposed lynch order when the order selected is almost the same as your proposed lynch order?


i'm upset because you guys picked a lynch order that's somewhat similar to mine and are now voting me because I picked a lynch order that you apparently agree with. You guys are hideously awful.

Also people saying they have hard evidence on me is utterly laughable. Like, the fact that I had one idea in pre game, then when the game started I came up with a better idea that contradicted the first makes me scum? What a stretch.
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Blazinghand *
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United States25550 Posts
August 29 2014 17:58 GMT
#825
On August 30 2014 02:56 marvellosity wrote:
shouldn't have stayed signed up then bro


Probably, but there's nothing for it now. I honestly had no idea when this game would start. Between /inning for this game and it starting, I /inned for another game, and that game filled, started, and ended. How should I have known this would come up right now?

Also this is why I smurf, peopel are hella prejudiced against me.

and yes, none of this is really convincing, but I just want to be able to say I told you so
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United States25550 Posts
August 29 2014 18:00 GMT
#826
On August 30 2014 02:57 marvellosity wrote:
also don't believe your irl excuses for a moment.

as you say yourself, "i never use them because i'd lie about them as mafia"

qed


yeah, the only time I've ever used irl excuses was when I was mafia, and then I made fun of people for believing me. I wouldn't believe these irl excuses either, and I have no illusions about how convincing they might be to people. what can I possibly due right now that's productive? not much. But I can banter a bit.
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Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
August 29 2014 18:01 GMT
#827
In any case, the fact that this game took like literally a month to fill should give you an indication of what a shithead you are for suggesting that I shouldn't have signed up because I was moving in a month
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Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
August 29 2014 18:43 GMT
#831
you gotta admit though, the order I came up with after the game started was objectively better and more pro-town than the ideas I had before the game start, even if it was contradictory

admit that and I will die in silence
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United States25550 Posts
August 29 2014 18:56 GMT
#834
good, good, that's one admission so far
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United States25550 Posts
August 29 2014 19:14 GMT
#838
On August 30 2014 04:13 batsnacks wrote:
Bunnies are you actually a female or are you just a guy role playing? Every other post from you is about how you're a girl. Is tl how you channel your inner feminity?

It's like how on gay forums half the posters are just straight guys spamming "fabulous!"

##vote batsnacks
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United States25550 Posts
August 29 2014 19:46 GMT
#843
On August 30 2014 04:38 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 03:01 Blazinghand wrote:
In any case, the fact that this game took like literally a month to fill should give you an indication of what a shithead you are for suggesting that I shouldn't have signed up because I was moving in a month

the signing up isn't a problem, it's the not /outing when you have a major life event coming up that is


bah it's like 48 hours of moving, what are the odds of it falling on 48 hours I absolutely MUST be active for?
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Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
August 29 2014 20:13 GMT
#850
Lol, are you serious amiko? If you are going all the way back to cop idiot mafia, you're cherrypicking hardcore. You're the scum in your group.

I always fight as scum. I do everything to win regardless of alignment. Your attempts to falsify the truth are ridiculous. Cop You Idiot Mafia I was literally modconfirmed scum starting D1.

Like, literally mod confirmed.

god, how are you so incompetent
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Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
August 29 2014 20:13 GMT
#852
On August 30 2014 05:11 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 04:52 batsnacks wrote:
On August 30 2014 04:39 marvellosity wrote:
On August 30 2014 04:13 batsnacks wrote:
Bunnies are you actually a female or are you just a guy role playing? Every other post from you is about how you're a girl. Is tl how you channel your inner feminity?

It's like how on gay forums half the posters are just straight guys spamming "fabulous!"

evidently you know nothing of 'gay forums'


Want to know a really easy way to spot bullshit?

If a sentence starts with "evidently" or "actually," it's bullshit. Every time.

given i'm a card-carrying homosexual, i must disagree.


let's kill batsnacks
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United States25550 Posts
August 29 2014 20:14 GMT
#853
On August 30 2014 05:13 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 05:04 Holyflare wrote:
On August 30 2014 04:46 Blazinghand wrote:
On August 30 2014 04:38 marvellosity wrote:
On August 30 2014 03:01 Blazinghand wrote:
In any case, the fact that this game took like literally a month to fill should give you an indication of what a shithead you are for suggesting that I shouldn't have signed up because I was moving in a month

the signing up isn't a problem, it's the not /outing when you have a major life event coming up that is


bah it's like 48 hours of moving, what are the odds of it falling on 48 hours I absolutely MUST be active for?


And you didn't care to mention this despite every order starting with A because?



Because I don't care about your orders, they're all dumb. You should have just voted for mine
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United States25550 Posts
August 29 2014 20:16 GMT
#856
Man, the worst thing about this is that I can't imagine what I could say to convince you I'm actually moving. like, I'm clever and unscrupulous as scum, so I'd pull out all the stops if I made a move like this and tried to lie about moving house. There's no line I'm not willing to cross; so what can I do as town? I have no "starsenses" for IRL things like anyone else does, because I don't pull my punches as scum

damn I'm just so good
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United States25550 Posts
August 29 2014 20:16 GMT
#857
On August 30 2014 05:15 marvellosity wrote:
the thing is, BH, if somehow you're not mafia, i'll still happily lynch you if you refuse to play the game.

Was there a time as town OR scum you let yourself get lynched without trying to play the game a bit?


nope
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United States25550 Posts
August 29 2014 20:17 GMT
#860
On August 30 2014 05:16 Amiko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 05:13 Blazinghand wrote:
Lol, are you serious amiko? If you are going all the way back to cop idiot mafia, you're cherrypicking hardcore. You're the scum in your group.

I always fight as scum. I do everything to win regardless of alignment. Your attempts to falsify the truth are ridiculous. Cop You Idiot Mafia I was literally modconfirmed scum starting D1.

Like, literally mod confirmed.

god, how are you so incompetent


I didn't see that - I only read your filter from games where you were lynched d1 (as town or mafia) - from your filter I thought you and another player had both cc'd cop in that game. If it's improper context then I'm fine disregarding that game. Are there other games you can point to on whether you give up as mafia?


cop you idiot mafia started n0. I was scum and i claimed cop, and the cop also claimed cop. we shot him n0 and he flipped cop. so D1 i was confirmed scum.

I have never given up as mafia ever. go into my profile in my list of games I've played, any scum game; i dont' give up
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United States25550 Posts
August 29 2014 20:18 GMT
#862
On August 30 2014 05:16 Holyflare wrote:
Besides it's nothing to do with how "great" your order was. You had like no votes other people had more. All other candidates had A first and you didn't say anything at all


>implying I read the thread during D0
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August 29 2014 20:19 GMT
#864
On August 30 2014 05:17 Holyflare wrote:
Post pictures of your new house/flat and stuff packed up


I'm at work via phone so no photos right now, but i'll be home in 3.5 hours and can post photos then if it's within the rules.
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August 29 2014 20:24 GMT
#871
On August 30 2014 05:19 Holyflare wrote:
Poat your new tenancy agreement too


the soft copy doesn't have my personal info on it, but i can share it if that'll make you feel better
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August 29 2014 20:25 GMT
#873
On August 30 2014 05:20 marvellosity wrote:
make sure it's clear it's you & your stuff BH

i gotta see this.


*sigh* would this actually cause you to unvote me or are you just jerking me around
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#874
The rules don't seem to have anything against it. I've made a scan of my signed lease agreement so you guys can check it out, i'll upload it to google docs in a sec
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#876
I'm gonna white out my address though cause randos on the internet can't be knowing my address
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#879
http://imgur.com/Mjq8HjV,3xKcxph

you have no idea what a pain this was
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#884
in yuma mafia i wasn't literally modconfirmed scum but I repalced in for a dude who everyone thought was 100% scum. also all that was trying to convince people not to lynch me anyways

also read the damn post you linked from yoso, you call that giving up?? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/448443-you-only-shoot-once-mafia?page=60#1199

as a final note, this is normally where the player defending himself swears on his honor that he's town and not making his IRL excuse up. I have no honor, so such a promise from me is meaningless. I can swear this though: on my honor as a dude who's willing to lie and make up IRL excuses, there's no way in hell I'd make this up as scum when I could make up something much better

on my honor as an unscrupulous player, I would never go with such an inconvenient story as scum. this story is the truth
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#887
>asks bh for a picture
>bh gives picture
>"bh, why you give picture"

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#888
On August 30 2014 05:59 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 05:58 Blazinghand wrote:
in yuma mafia i wasn't literally modconfirmed scum but I repalced in for a dude who everyone thought was 100% scum. also all that was trying to convince people not to lynch me anyways

also read the damn post you linked from yoso, you call that giving up?? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/448443-you-only-shoot-once-mafia?page=60#1199

as a final note, this is normally where the player defending himself swears on his honor that he's town and not making his IRL excuse up. I have no honor, so such a promise from me is meaningless. I can swear this though: on my honor as a dude who's willing to lie and make up IRL excuses, there's no way in hell I'd make this up as scum when I could make up something much better

on my honor as an unscrupulous player, I would never go with such an inconvenient story as scum. this story is the truth


if you're not mafia, then batsnacks is. can you give me 3 sentences on why he is?


1) he's a dick
2) i will read his filter when I get home then tell you why he's mafia
3) i should probably read your filter too at some point
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#891
dude i'm not reading 40 damn pages of posts, i'm at work. the only reason I could use the scanner is cause i'm the IT guy so I won't give myself crap for using it
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#892
On August 30 2014 06:02 marvellosity wrote:
BH if you're town, it's this kind of shit that makes games MUCH MUCH HARDER than they should be.


i know, i'd be yelling at me too, but what you want me to do about it?
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#895
you'll have to wait 3 hours for me to get home
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#899
On August 30 2014 06:10 Amiko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 05:58 Blazinghand wrote:
in yuma mafia i wasn't literally modconfirmed scum but I repalced in for a dude who everyone thought was 100% scum. also all that was trying to convince people not to lynch me anyways

also read the damn post you linked from yoso, you call that giving up?? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/448443-you-only-shoot-once-mafia?page=60#1199

as a final note, this is normally where the player defending himself swears on his honor that he's town and not making his IRL excuse up. I have no honor, so such a promise from me is meaningless. I can swear this though: on my honor as a dude who's willing to lie and make up IRL excuses, there's no way in hell I'd make this up as scum when I could make up something much better

on my honor as an unscrupulous player, I would never go with such an inconvenient story as scum. this story is the truth


On YOSO, I don't call that post giving up, but it's hard to consider it a serious defense when you start talking about pets in your next few posts.

Anyway I don't particularly disbelieve that you are moving... but I still feel like you probably should be able to play the game more than you have.


just cause i'm moving doesnt' mean i also have work though

shit man

shiiiiiiieeeet
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#903
On August 30 2014 06:11 Amiko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 06:09 ritoky wrote:
[image loading]

oh, while i read here's this breakdown of current votes by cell.


marv voted for BH, Oats voted for batsnacks


I feel like this is wrong, given that like, most of those cells are wrong. I'm definitely up for the lynch right now, not batsnacks, ritoky.
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#911
On August 30 2014 06:15 ritoky wrote:
[image loading]

IT HAS NOW BEEN FIXED!


IT SEEMS TO HAVE ME VOTING FOR MYSELF
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#914
On August 30 2014 06:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh you just fixed it
Anyway, BH still scum cause he still hasn't helped find scum


I'm. Moving. I really can't.
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#917
Presenting ritoky: he's right 100% of the time, 40% of the time, eventually.
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#919
On August 30 2014 06:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
Then why did you say in your angry post that contained something about feces and yelling at me that you'd be finding scum?


quote or it didn't happen
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#924
On August 30 2014 06:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2014 15:21 Blazinghand wrote:
I'm tired of dealing with your literal feces. come on and vote me. I'll solv ethe damn game like I always do and catch all the scum like I always do, and you'll alll hate me for it like you always do cause i'm do damn right

boew down before your master

hgrit your teeth and pretend to hate me but in your heart you know I am right

This one


oh yeah i'll do this later
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#927
On August 30 2014 06:23 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 06:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 29 2014 15:21 Blazinghand wrote:
I'm tired of dealing with your literal feces. come on and vote me. I'll solv ethe damn game like I always do and catch all the scum like I always do, and you'll alll hate me for it like you always do cause i'm do damn right

boew down before your master

hgrit your teeth and pretend to hate me but in your heart you know I am right

This one


I read that as a drunk post based solely on # of typos. did you not?


i may have been drunk, but I was also objectively right

i'll prove to you all that batsnacks is scum, and then when he flips scum you'll all pretend I didn't win the game for you, just like in Guilty Mafia
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#934
On August 30 2014 06:23 27ninjabunnies wrote:
I'm going to be the first one to vote ritoky so I am the only green person up there.

##Vote: Ritoky


yeah buddy sorry but ritoky is pretty much definitely town, if only because scum would never go through the effort to like color code a voting list and then not pay enough attention to get it right. If scum pulled a move like that they'd be thinking too much about not scumslipping to make so many silly errors. ritoky's off-handed fixing etc shows a town attitude and mindset. he's not scum, batsnacks is.
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#942
On August 30 2014 06:28 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 06:26 Blazinghand wrote:
On August 30 2014 06:23 27ninjabunnies wrote:
I'm going to be the first one to vote ritoky so I am the only green person up there.

##Vote: Ritoky


yeah buddy sorry but ritoky is pretty much definitely town, if only because scum would never go through the effort to like color code a voting list and then not pay enough attention to get it right. If scum pulled a move like that they'd be thinking too much about not scumslipping to make so many silly errors. ritoky's off-handed fixing etc shows a town attitude and mindset. he's not scum, batsnacks is.


Oh I think he's town.

But I just felt like trolling a bit.

And I wanted to be green.

Green in my favorite color.


wat
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#950
On August 30 2014 06:50 Holyflare wrote:
I can't really take anyone that votes him seriously, and it helps that all my towny reads are voting bh too


the only reason all your towny reads are voting me is that EVERYONE is voting me, of course your townreads are a supset of EVERYONE
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#952
yes they are a subset of everyone do you even know what a subset is
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#956
so true, how could i forget the glorious support of my massive legion of fanboys oh no wait it turns out there's only one person voting batsnacks and that's oats
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#979
On August 30 2014 08:24 marvellosity wrote:
yes


yup

i hate myself
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#982
On August 30 2014 08:42 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 08:33 Blazinghand wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:24 marvellosity wrote:
yes


yup

i hate myself


Pics now yes?


will you unvote me?
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#983
I'm not providing pics unless I get a precomittment from 3 players that they will unvote me and apologize for voting me. Otherwise yall are just yanking my chain and i'm busy and got shit to do
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#986
On August 30 2014 09:08 Holyflare wrote:
Depends on quality of pics


based on this phrasing, you're yanking my chain. Go make out with a toilet plunger
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#987
Look, i'm actually legitimately busy and unless it's going to make a difference I'm not gonna like take a bunch of pics with myself and a newspaper and my flat and the roadsign and the address on the street and all that crap just because you asshats think its' funny. If it will convince you to unvote me, i'll do it, but otherwise, believe it or not, i got shit to do today
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#989
On August 30 2014 09:09 Holyflare wrote:
If you can post the pic of you some moving boxes in a new flat with todays paper or some note with date on then i will


ok.
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#995
http://imgur.com/a/lWRaT
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#998
Wtf is wrong with you people

No Comcast at home so I'm here via phone

Bat id's scum.
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#1000
Wat
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#1002
Ritok is town as I said
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#1008
Are u dense

Ritok ia town

Therefore bat scum
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#1009
Also I'm moving I dint got time for that's crap
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#1015
I'm not drunk I'm on a phone you nitwit
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#1018
I don't use autocorrect and if I was drunk a day ago it doesn't mean I'm still drunk now, not all men are like your father some can put down the bottle
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#1021
On August 30 2014 11:35 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 11:33 Blazinghand wrote:
I don't use autocorrect and if I was drunk a day ago it doesn't mean I'm still drunk now, not all men are like your father some can put down the bottle


I could be blackout drunk and I still wouldn't make spelling mistakes. You are a fraud.


You're scum
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#1022
On August 30 2014 11:37 Oatsmaster wrote:
Lol bats, you just said your mom is scum for voting for bh and that I'm scum for voting for you. And that bh is scum.
What's with all the contradictions. Also you posted a list post. No points for you.


This man knows the truth
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#1024
On August 30 2014 11:39 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 11:37 Oatsmaster wrote:
Lol bats, you just said your mom is scum for voting for bh and that I'm scum for voting for you. And that bh is scum.
What's with all the contradictions. Also you posted a list post. No points for you.


Wasn't looking for points. your mom is busing, you aren't (for now); this is absolutely conceivable to me.


Or you have no real criteria for whose scum cause you're scum
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#1027
On August 30 2014 11:41 batsnacks wrote:
ebwop: don't start sentences with lol. It's even worse than saying "actually" or "evidently."

Lol evidently someone is buttinjured he got caught

Also I'm literally moving what more do you want
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#1029
Bite me, scum
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#1065
ok guys, I got internet intermittently up at my new place

[image loading]

pretty sweet right
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#1189
I'm here and have some time to talk. Look, I've taken a look at how batsnacks has played, and it seems fairly clear to me that he's scum. The fact of the matter is, his play and attempt at analysis only takes place directly in response to the possibility of people moving off of me. My low activity is pretty much flat because, yes, I'm moving. Batsnacks just wants to fly under the radar and once he realizes people might question him he starts flipping shit and making graphics and stuff. His goal isn't to hunt scum, it's to just not be the lynch in this cell-- it is clear to me that he is operating from a scum mindset and goal set.

Other players have mentioned the inconsistencies and scumminess of his list/excel post and his followup, so I won't rehash that.

Honestly, I'm completely sure batsnacks is scum, and I will do what it takes to prove that. We're not lynching me today. Not while I have a say in it.

On August 31 2014 02:25 WaveofShadow wrote:
Sorry for spam:

Just had a breakthrough

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/465889-how-to-succeed-in-evil

BH totally scum


this blog post was in the queue for 2 weeks. It was already written so I just copied it over from my reddit posts proof: http://www.reddit.com/r/rational/comments/2dn4gq/rt_how_to_succeed_in_evil_series_edwin_windsor/cjtfl4c
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#1193
On August 31 2014 03:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
Uhh....
BH how exactly has batsnacks been attempting to fly under the radar?


well, not NOW, obviously, but look at it this way. At the start of the day, like a million people vote me, including batsnacks, and he doesn't try to ask me questions, pressure me, or even mention ritoky. The first time he does this is about 24 hours ago (link). He makes a lot of posts, conversationally, and he's not afraid to step on toes, but they're all like this (link) or like this (link). I would consider batsnacks' early contributions during this day to be basically the same as mine: nonexistent. He certainly makes a lot of posts, but none with real meaning.

Then, only after he comes under some pressure, he coughts up this hairball: (link) while at the same time trying to downplay his earlier play and focus you guys on his most recent play, so you think he's active.
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#1197
On August 31 2014 03:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2014 03:09 Blazinghand wrote:
On August 31 2014 03:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
Uhh....
BH how exactly has batsnacks been attempting to fly under the radar?


well, not NOW, obviously, but look at it this way. At the start of the day, like a million people vote me, including batsnacks, and he doesn't try to ask me questions, pressure me, or even mention ritoky. The first time he does this is about 24 hours ago (link). He makes a lot of posts, conversationally, and he's not afraid to step on toes, but they're all like this (link) or like this (link). I would consider batsnacks' early contributions during this day to be basically the same as mine: nonexistent. He certainly makes a lot of posts, but none with real meaning.

Then, only after he comes under some pressure, he coughts up this hairball: (link) while at the same time trying to downplay his earlier play and focus you guys on his most recent play, so you think he's active.

He was more active than you were, and what you described isn't what I'd call 'flying under the radar' in the slightest.
Lack of contribution isn't flying under the radar. He was around and in everyone's face.


Yeah, but in everyone's face with what? Not cases, not analysis, with NOTHING. Look, if he was literally not posting, that wouldn't be flying under the radar, people would notice that. In a game of mafia, to not attract attention, you have to make posts. And if you're batsnacks, who's generally a caustic player, you don't make a bunch of milquetoast posts. How else would batsnacks try to avoid attention than what he's doing now? There's no way batsnacks could contribute less without people saying "wtf batsnacks is being really weird"

On August 31 2014 03:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
How about this BH?
Get off your own cell for a bit.
Give some other reads.


I'm glad to do so, but I'm not gonna stop paying attention to the fact that i'm leading the votes dude, and you're voting me for reasons that still are not clear to me.
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#1199
On August 31 2014 03:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2014 03:14 Blazinghand wrote:
On August 31 2014 03:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 31 2014 03:09 Blazinghand wrote:
On August 31 2014 03:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
Uhh....
BH how exactly has batsnacks been attempting to fly under the radar?


well, not NOW, obviously, but look at it this way. At the start of the day, like a million people vote me, including batsnacks, and he doesn't try to ask me questions, pressure me, or even mention ritoky. The first time he does this is about 24 hours ago (link). He makes a lot of posts, conversationally, and he's not afraid to step on toes, but they're all like this (link) or like this (link). I would consider batsnacks' early contributions during this day to be basically the same as mine: nonexistent. He certainly makes a lot of posts, but none with real meaning.

Then, only after he comes under some pressure, he coughts up this hairball: (link) while at the same time trying to downplay his earlier play and focus you guys on his most recent play, so you think he's active.

He was more active than you were, and what you described isn't what I'd call 'flying under the radar' in the slightest.
Lack of contribution isn't flying under the radar. He was around and in everyone's face.


Yeah, but in everyone's face with what? Not cases, not analysis, with NOTHING. Look, if he was literally not posting, that wouldn't be flying under the radar, people would notice that. In a game of mafia, to not attract attention, you have to make posts. And if you're batsnacks, who's generally a caustic player, you don't make a bunch of milquetoast posts. How else would batsnacks try to avoid attention than what he's doing now? There's no way batsnacks could contribute less without people saying "wtf batsnacks is being really weird"

On August 31 2014 03:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
How about this BH?
Get off your own cell for a bit.
Give some other reads.


I'm glad to do so, but I'm not gonna stop paying attention to the fact that i'm leading the votes dude, and you're voting me for reasons that still are not clear to me.

But he WAS being really weird BH, wtf?
Like compare his posting to someone like bunnies for example, who isn't in today's cell

ftfy

On August 31 2014 03:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
Go ahead and pay attention. I have all the reason to vote I need. Give me a reason to unvote.

Are you seriously voting me because of that blog post? please elaborate.
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#1206
On August 31 2014 03:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
lol why do people think I care about the blog post?
It was a joke because the title of it is how to succeed in evil. You know?
Like mafia are evil?
ha ha?

I'm voting you because your early game was scummy as hell, amiko caught you slipping (which by the way I don't buy your explanation for) and then you didn't do dick all for a while. Now even assuming marv is wrong and you're not just being sneaky as all hell (and I know you are certainly capable of it), I have more than enough reason to find you scum today.


walk me through your thought process then, cause right now I don't get it.

You unvote me(link) and explicitly state i'm not off the hook, after batsnacks' travest of a post and me noting i have bad internet. You interact with professor apathy, than you are bothered by batsnacks' posting (link), then you say you'd flip a coin between us because you're so on the fence, (link) then you (now jokingly) criticize the title of my book review (link) , then you vote me because... bats is here? (link)

from what I can tell, you didn't have any particular plan to vote me, and you just did it because bats... showed up? Even though you don't like bats.

I don't get it.
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August 30 2014 18:29 GMT
#1208
Wait, now you're voting bats? I'm even more confused, though I am pleased. Nonetheless, I will follow your advice and provide reads on the other cells, since you'll be needing my guidance in the next few days regardless
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August 30 2014 19:40 GMT
#1221
I too would be interested in talking about 27nb. I do not think any of her vote justifications are real. It seems to me like this post in particular rings false: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/463542-cell-mini-mafia-iii?page=55#1097

basically, 27nb started off by voting ritoky "jokingly" (link), then when batsnacks was in danger as a counterwagon to me, she moved her vote to me from ritoky. What this looks like to me (you can let me know if this makes sense to you ritoky) is that 27nb was trying to protect her scumbuddy batsnacks by throwing away her vote on ritoky. Once it became clear there was a counterwagon, in fact, the instant things get tied up at 5-5, 27nb suddenly decides that she wants to be relevant and votes me for unclear reasons.

so basically she's bailing out batsnacks instead of opting out of the discourse by voting you.
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August 30 2014 19:49 GMT
#1229
On August 31 2014 04:44 Damdred wrote:
BH, if you would I left a few questions for you in my filter that you have not gotten to yet. Could you look over them and answer some of the things you haven't answered yet for me?

Also BH any other reads on the other cells yet?


Sure, I'll respond. Besides the 27nb read I'm still working. I'm focusing on they next two cells.
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August 30 2014 20:40 GMT
#1254
I'm here, I'm replying to damdred's question. I've put a scumread on 27nb, and i'm trying to form a scumread on cell D.
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August 30 2014 20:48 GMT
#1261
Damdred, i'll lay out my townread on ritoky and my scumread on batsnacks for you real quick, but i'm mostly focusing on the 2 cells following this one right now because after the lynch I won't be able to add more info to the discussion so I gotta get this out while I can. What's funny is, I have the false memory of explaining the ritoky scumread but I can't seem to find it in my own filter so i'll lay it out.

As scum, if you do something like make a colored bunch of cells or whatever like ritoky did (ie, mostly out of the blue, serious, not tongue in cheek or trolling, not copying someone), and try to play it straight, you pay a lot of attention to how you do it. You are trying not to scumslip, trying not to get lynched, etc. You pay attention to details. You're serious about it, or, you're obviously trolling about it and trying to throw town off. Ritoky was neither of these. he was serious about the contents and his analysis, but he was lightheartedly swapping the colors around and stuff as people pointed out problems (problems a scum player would hide to avoid scumslipping, a scum player would always proofread). Ritoky wasn't stressed, he was playful. This is not how a scum player would be in this situation.

RE the batsnacks scumread, basically beyond what I've already said about his usefulness and fake usefulness, he isn't feeling what I'm feeling, which is a need to leave behind reads for the rest of the game. If he's scum, his goals end with this lynch. He just wants to lynch me or ritoky. If he's town, the game continues and his reads will be important (rather than ignored). He's not trying to develop them or leave behind a legacy. He's just yelling at people and being an ass and not contributing.
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August 30 2014 20:49 GMT
#1262
On August 31 2014 05:44 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2014 05:43 ritoky wrote:
On August 31 2014 05:41 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
if you guys have any questions for me feel free to ask


batsnacks of BH?


Well if he's wrong about one of us he's wrong about both of us.


Technically he could just be wrong about me if by some weird situation ritoky was scum, which isn't something you should rule out so casually given what you've said about ritoky. I don't think ritoky is scum though, you're scum.
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August 30 2014 21:07 GMT
#1268
On August 31 2014 06:05 ritoky wrote:
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On August 31 2014 06:01 your mom wrote:
BHs latest post is quite convincing

##Unvote
##Vote batsnacks


why is it so convincing to you? he is operating under the assumption that there is a 0% chance he is mafia.


I'm guessing he's talking about the larger one above it explaining why batsnacks is scum
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August 30 2014 21:13 GMT
#1270
On August 31 2014 06:10 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2014 06:07 Blazinghand wrote:
On August 31 2014 06:05 ritoky wrote:
On August 31 2014 06:01 your mom wrote:
BHs latest post is quite convincing

##Unvote
##Vote batsnacks


why is it so convincing to you? he is operating under the assumption that there is a 0% chance he is mafia.


I'm guessing he's talking about the larger one above it explaining why batsnacks is scum


but to me your argument for why he is scum is primarily a POE argument. from your perspective you cannot be scum, and then you basically eliminate me as a possibility; thus batsnacks. you do give some mild justification, but nothing that i would call "quite convincing".

so i am interest how this mother is so convinced by a primarily POE argument that hinges on knowing BH is town.


oh! you think he's the scum in group D? It's clearly not damdred, but I'm having trouble pinning down which of NRHF or YM would be scum. I like NRHF for his reason for voting batsnacks, which seems consistent with "trying to catch scum", I guess, especially when he could have saved on me. I can't think of a better case on YM than "he isn't really posting" though, and I know that won't convince anyone. He evin remains consistent on whether or not my plan as mayor was good
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August 30 2014 21:16 GMT
#1271
I should note, by the way, that I'm reasonably sure that Damdred is town. He immediately jumped in with questions for me and didn't let them slide (the follow-up is something town does more than scum). Honestly, given the three in group D, we'd have to be pretty stupid to lynch Damdred. So yeah, I'm trying to find some heuristic to distinguish NRHF from YM. I might just skip this group and provide thoughts on group B or C instead and just provide a provisional scumread.
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August 30 2014 21:23 GMT
#1273
On August 31 2014 06:19 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2014 06:16 Blazinghand wrote:
I should note, by the way, that I'm reasonably sure that Damdred is town. He immediately jumped in with questions for me and didn't let them slide (the follow-up is something town does more than scum). Honestly, given the three in group D, we'd have to be pretty stupid to lynch Damdred. So yeah, I'm trying to find some heuristic to distinguish NRHF from YM. I might just skip this group and provide thoughts on group B or C instead and just provide a provisional scumread.


how do you feel about him voting on you and his reasoning behind it?


It's entirely in-character for him. I am reasonably sure that he's just not [i]really[/] aware that I've been moving, and he also hasn't posted since I responded to his question. He seems worried about a dogpile on bats but of course was not there in the moment for the massive dogpile on me. It's quite different to read filters and to play the game. In any case, just by asking me questions, following up, and taking a stance, he's done much more to show he's trying to solve the game than his other two cellmates. I don't like it, and he's wrong, but that doesn't make him scum.
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August 30 2014 21:31 GMT
#1277
On August 31 2014 06:30 Amiko wrote:
Back in thread should be here through deadline.

@Blazinghand:
Can you share your read on WaveofShadow?
I'm interested in this because he seemed more persuaded by the pregame-ingame inconsistency with your cell ordering.


Absolutely, I'll look into him right now. Immediately springing to mind are his inconsistencies about why he's voting or not voting me, so I'll read his filter.
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August 30 2014 21:37 GMT
#1280
by the way, since I'm only around for another 20 minutes, any other last minute requests for reads should happen now so I have time to reply
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August 30 2014 21:57 GMT
#1286
OK, so you all know that my chief scumread for E is 27nb. I'm going to add a slight FoS on wade though based on his actions near the end of this day. I don't like his silence nor do I like his vote on me. Ultimately, this is up for you to decide.

For D, my chief recommendation is "don't lynch damdred". The other two players need to be put under pressure, in my opinion starting right away so that by the time D rolls around there's something to talk about. As I said before, I don't have high hopes for D, but if it's in position 3 we might as well try to make the best of it.

For B, I would be surprised if HF was scum. I feel like he could have just left his vote on me and complained about me a lot and gotten me lynched, but he didn't. So I'm gonna actually say WoS is town here because of his back-and-forth on me, I think he's too calculating on scum to swap his vote around like that. He was actually changing his mind.

I don't like marv this game. I don't trust him. if he's voting on me cause he thinks I'm scum, where's the usual marv bluster? I'm glad his group was put on the last slot. if he refuses to lead, push him into a leadership position. Marv not leading isn't a scumtell, it's how he leads. There is no follower marv.
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August 30 2014 21:58 GMT
#1288
hopefully those reads are helpful. gl and hf.

any last minute swappers, batsnacks didn't try to provide reads. think about it.
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August 30 2014 21:58 GMT
#1289
NO YOU IDOT
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August 30 2014 21:59 GMT
#1290
that's a lie MM1 is top scumread forever
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August 30 2014 22:00 GMT
#1292
nice try weaseling out of responsibility

they wont' buy it
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August 30 2014 22:00 GMT
#1294
lynch mm1 no matter what
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Last Edited: 2014-09-05 22:07:24
September 05 2014 22:05 GMT
#2048
There was no move. Every piece of evidence was faked. I'm sorry, but I was having too much fun faking it to do other things.

This is a good time to mention that TL Mafia LXVIII is open for signups! I'm hosting, and it's going to be boatloads of fun. (link)
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September 05 2014 22:27 GMT
#2055
On September 06 2014 07:19 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2014 07:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Oats did a great job in distracting the discussion for the first 24 hours.

read the line I've got for Oats:
http://i.imgur.com/B0vwsqT.png

Read it

Edit: Oh wait, I get it. Thought you ment something else.


I like how me ritoky and batsnacks all have -1000 or worse

On September 06 2014 07:26 marvellosity wrote:
just, why didn't we lynch BH. why.


I actually don't understand
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September 06 2014 22:37 GMT
#2073
On September 07 2014 04:39 marvellosity wrote:
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On September 06 2014 08:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
Marv what was the deal? Is everything OK?

Everything's fine. Wouldn't have played but i wanted to give Cell a go.

Then was further demotivated when town didn't lynch obv-scum BH.

BH-your mom-Oats should have been town's gimmes this game.


no dude i'm not scum i was just moving kek
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September 07 2014 00:24 GMT
#2077
On September 07 2014 09:07 iamperfection wrote:
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On September 07 2014 07:37 Blazinghand wrote:
On September 07 2014 04:39 marvellosity wrote:
On September 06 2014 08:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
Marv what was the deal? Is everything OK?

Everything's fine. Wouldn't have played but i wanted to give Cell a go.

Then was further demotivated when town didn't lynch obv-scum BH.

BH-your mom-Oats should have been town's gimmes this game.


no dude i'm not scum i was just moving kek

You will have to step it for future games. Take pictures of yourself at funerals or maybe shave your head and say you have cancer. I will personally deliver you a trophy that says greatest scum player of all time.

honestly I'd be really surprised if something like this ever worked again, regardless of how much "proof" I provided. but who knows!
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September 07 2014 04:57 GMT
#2079
yeah i was obvious scum, which makes my victory that much sweeter
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September 11 2014 17:29 GMT
#2094
I would also like to note that just for reasonableness' sake, I would never actually sign up for a game if I was planning to move during the time the game was in, and if something DID actually come up, I'd replace out and take my lumps like a man rather than just hang out in the thread and whine about it. Seriously though, I wouldn't /in in the first place for a game like this if I was actually not able to play.
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September 11 2014 20:18 GMT
#2096
Yup but I figured I'd just note that you're totally right
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September 11 2014 20:36 GMT
#2099
On September 12 2014 05:20 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2014 05:18 Blazinghand wrote:
Yup but I figured I'd just note that you're totally right

it actually makes it even more irritating that everything i said was correct

edit: that you didn't get lynched i mean.


Yeah, at least you know that next time you can point at these statements and people will have to listen to you.
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Last Edited: 2014-09-11 23:25:08
September 11 2014 23:24 GMT
#2103
On September 12 2014 07:47 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2014 07:26 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 12 2014 06:56 WaveofShadow wrote:
except knowing you the next timeyou're going to do it as town just so you can f*** with your meta

That would be playing against his win con as town - don't think he would do it. And even if he would we will just lynch him until he stops it regardless of alignment.

Sadly he's not the kind of person to care much about that sometimes.
And it's not against his wincon to make up bullshit excuses for stuff.

I would never intentionally sabotage myself as town to help my scumgame, or vice versa. That's the whole point of my horrible IRL lies-- most people are willing to use IRL as town but not make up IRL as scum; they sabotage their scumgame to help their towngame. They have actions they're willing to take, but not to fake. I have transcended those foolish limitations. The whole point of me making IRL shit up is that I would never sabotage my play or hold anything back, ever, just because of some stupid idea of "there's some stuff you don't lie about" that's not in the rules.

I'm not saying I'd never use IRL lies as town; I'd gladly use them if I saw it to be to my advantage to do so. I'd do it in a heartbeat, in an instant, if I thought it would help me win. If you think I'd ever sabotage my towngame to help my scumgame, though, you're wrong, you're as wrong as the people who would think I'd ever sabotage my scumgame to help my towngame by not using IRL lies.
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