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Fuck you! But seriously I will be looking through the thread. Posting later. | ||
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On August 04 2014 09:33 goodkarma wrote: lol towncircles this early are pointless Exactly what I think. Let's stop circlejerking. I don't find anything particularly interesting in any of this discussion yet. It's 80% /towncirclejerk and 20% discussion on waveofshadow's meta, which isn't convincing at all. I also don't see how waveofshadow's <3333-throwing is indicative of any alignment. I feel it's more a stylistic choice, and the fact that it feels rehearsed is due to the fact that no normal person would say 'i love you' to every stranger on the internets. | ||
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On August 04 2014 11:44 Vivax wrote: cause you dont enjoy playing scum and we know that. nah it's probably because of Noir Mini Mafia 2, he's scarred for life now | ||
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On August 04 2014 13:25 HaruRH wrote: Note: I have literally 0 experience with purely normal games, so I don't know what to expect other than scum playing out of their minds. Which is what I'll focus on d1. Yes, that is why I brought out the stiff post argument. I want to see if this trend continues since it matches up with the 'scum playing out of their mind' read I have. Finding and noting the top towns currently also helps me formulate how scum could possibly act. It's better (in my opinion) to hide as top towns, so I won't be surprised if any of these 3 who are leading discussion/looking towny now would be scum. Your logic baffles me. You're saying that because scum are so tryhard, they are more town than real town and so the towniest people are scum. You also allege that 'top towns should hide' which is astounding. The only power town has is their voice and vote, why would a *town* want to hide? What about this simpler, probably correct argument: 'hf/pooft/gk are town because they are actively leading discussion and finding out who is scum and who is town. Scum are among the lurkers who don't want to get noticed'. | ||
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[r]Artanis is scum.[/r] He has three pages in his filter yet reading through the whole thread I don't recall seeing him say anything interesting. By Palmar's rule he is scum. | ||
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what's your view on Artanis[XP]? | ||
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On August 04 2014 19:04 kushm4sta wrote: gobblle hasn't mentioned artanis once. faulty logic, since artanis participated much earlier in the game and there was less to talk about. ???? On August 04 2014 18:33 gobbledydook wrote: I have come to the conclusion: Artanis is scum. He has three pages in his filter yet reading through the whole thread I don't recall seeing him say anything interesting. By Palmar's rule he is scum. | ||
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nope, not convinced | ||
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went through haru's filter, not impressed. First there's quite a lot of defending wave from meta-scumread, where his argument is very awkward. Then there's his weird scumread on hf/gk/eden, which I still don't think makes sense, why would you suggest they are acting pro-town therefore are scum? By his logic we should lynch all the most vocal towns first to catch the 'hidden mafia', oh wait, nope they were all town, mafia is laughing to the bank. So what he has said is awkward, misleading, and hasn't actually said much of note. He's on my scumreads right now, but behind Artanis. | ||
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On August 04 2014 22:29 kushm4sta wrote: First, let me say, your handle is extremely frustrating for me. Why gobbledydook instead of gobbleydgook? What is the significance of changing the g to a d? It's kind of driving me insane. Anyway, this is the post you are calling a "scumread on hf/gk/eden": Do you see the logic behind his thinking, even though you might disagree with it? Why are you treating it like it's such a big deal? It's not a scumread on any of those players, but rather a comment on the game setup/mafia theory. OK, I can accept that he's just mistaken. It's pretty bad logic though, the optimum mafia play is to play super townie anyway, so how does this game being vanilla make any difference? | ||
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On August 04 2014 22:41 HaruRH wrote: Are you sure you read my filter? The answer can be found there. I read your filter and did not find a satisfactory answer. I think you are wrong. | ||
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But I want obi to legit explain his marv read. | ||
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On August 05 2014 07:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I hate it. Who metas themselves as town? The concept of concluding that you're town because of meta is bad because you can misinterpret your own meta to suit your own goals, and it falls under the category of trying too hard to be town because you don't think you can stand up on your own merits. I know I had a strong urge to meta myself when I rolled scum, and that's part of the reason I don't like that post. I'm in a rush, so I'll probably delve into it later, but I think it's mega scummy. Last time I caught HF doing this, he was mafia. Since you appeared, can you tell me why marv is scum? | ||
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On August 05 2014 13:19 goodkarma wrote: Is this all you care to comment on after over a day of absence? AUS Timezone OP, also I have other things to do Is there anything specific you want me to comment on? | ||
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On August 05 2014 13:27 goodkarma wrote: Wave's case on Haru, Obi, Artansis, the meaning of life. Take your pick. There must have been something posted of interest to you between yesterday and today. 1) Haru: It's a good case, I had raised some of my objections about Haru before, but HF persuaded me that just because I don't agree with him doesn't mean he is scum. I still don't like any of his posts, the logic just isn't there. I could be persuaded to vote Haru. 2) Obi: Null read atm, he's played similarly to when I saw him in Noir Mini 2, and he was town in that game. He hasn't particularly stood out as towny though so that's why I have a null read. 3) Artanis: I said before, I think he's come out with good discussion and so I unvoted him. 4) The meaning of life: 42. | ||
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On August 05 2014 13:38 Tehpoofter wrote: Was it really a lot of space? This reasoning is garbage and feels like mafia jumping on a town. Welcome to my kill list. Like I said it was odd not that it was really scummy or mafia indicative or like marv is mafia because of it or anything. This is like 100000% what a mafia would say to jump on a bandwagon of a town. It hits all the fun points of what scum does when voting: a) being in like 3-5th on a vote b) bad reasoning thats slightly different from others c) a reason that is about something in the thread but is actually not correct showing hes not really checking his information. a) Someone has got to be in like 3-5th of a vote b) No, I think it's a pretty good read c) No, I think it's a pretty good read Classic scum move, going hard OMGUS. Please | ||
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On August 05 2014 13:46 Tehpoofter wrote: I didn't say the other two people voting me were scum cause I felt HF believes what he says the other dude I think has said things during the game that I find townie (he will probably be in my bangs once I've caught up) Your reason was shitty. Get called out. But no, seriously, your contribution level is still zero. | ||
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On August 05 2014 18:12 Holyflare wrote: Point to me where he is even skeptical of me because i can point to you multiple times that he has called me town. Every post i make that accuses him he doesn't get more suspicious he just passes it off as something wrong instead. It's not normal conspiracy theorist wave. Artanis has done nothing, his posts were very artificial abd he's probably the best lynch. Thrre was that one post that made me skeptical of his alignment but his latest string of posts looks like some mafia that had to post some content to stay alive rather than someone trying to figure things out. I.E. Bringing up thing about jat but not continuing it, the random oh I'm being terrible into afking. When I talked about artanis being useful I was referring to On August 05 2014 00:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote: That's impossible as he just brought it up. He deflected marv's post by mentioning something about me super townreading wave for no good reason when if he had been paying attention he would've noticed that I mentioned townreading Wave from the get go. I even quoted it again when someone else asked it to me before. Bringing up this example felt awkward to begin with given his post so it makes no sense for him to do so unless he's trying to deflect. and On August 05 2014 08:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I'm on it for one, and I have minor townreads on the other two. Haru, you've mentioned you favour Obi the most for a lynch today. Why have you not been pushing him or trying to interact with him? He's here and he's your biggest scumread yet you're not doing anything. I don't think that's a good tell for poof. I've seen him post in cell as scum and he was very carefree there too. I'm not sure what really sets him out as mafia. Which to me seems like legit discussion and good points made. Holyflare, forgive me for being dumb, but I don't quite follow your logic in dismissing Artanis's posts as being mafia filler. Can you please explain in detail? I'm sure I am missing out on some nuance here. | ||
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I don't understand the exact reason why you think Artanis's later posts are mafia filler, your examples are a bit vague and unexplained. I'm a noob so explain clearly please | ||
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Every game I have played so far I was mafia. Guess how much I know about playing town. I'm trying, but just that I'm not up to your standards doesn't mean I'm scum. You can also compare this game to my 2 scumgames to see the difference. | ||
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Near the beginning, I had HaruRH as scum because of his terrible logic about mafia acting more towny as usual. Then HF said that I shouldn't be so quick to scumread someone just because I disagree with them and I accepted it. The logic was terrible but it looked like he was trying to make a legit point at least. On August 04 2014 18:56 HaruRH wrote: Artanis feels scummy for buddying with someone who had suspect entrance and suspect posts. Here he sheeps on Artanis. The post before the vote he says something really vague that isn't even necessarily correct. Then he votes Artanis without any reason other than basically other people voted too. No attempt to substantiate the vote. If he were trying to scumhunt would he not have a better reason than 'Artanis is close to someone I think is suspicious'? I thought mafia generally avoid associating with each other? The conclusion therefore, is he's just voting so he can put his vote somewhere. A while later, he posts this gem. On August 05 2014 07:48 HaruRH wrote: Ill do it for you Goodkarma: came out early with tons of aggression, never relented and disappeared conveniently. Wos: bad start with stiff post, continued posting awkwardly that seemed rehearsed. Artanis: using meta reads as a basis of his reads (I really dont agree with doing this). Justanothertownie: I don't really feel much from him except that I don't agree with his scumreads at all. Obiwan: being useless In this game much? I don't see him voting anything meaningful, or doing any moves that included thinking. Overall, obi> wos> gk> artanis> jat in terms of who to lynch. On August 05 2014 22:24 HaruRH wrote: ... Scumville Gobble I didn't see him do crap with reads. All of them are wishy washy and inconclusive. No promises either. Pooft Throwing reads everywhere, 0 substantiation. Wolf. Obiwan Literally not committing to any scumreads. All his 'scumreads' are either wishy washy or they are just a throwaway read. Artanis Similar to gobble. This may be omgus but if you take away his 'haru scumread', he have an unreadable filter with nothing except 'this guy town' 'this post scum' etc. Also, no promised reads so I won't get to see him post actual content outside of his (desperate) read on me. Yep, not doing crap with reads, wishy washy and inconclusive, no promises given, throwing reads everywhere, 0 substantiation, not committing to any scumreads...guess who that is. I know, it's the person flinging shit at seven people aka HaruRH. | ||
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On August 05 2014 22:55 justanothertownie wrote: I missed this post. He stops by only to tell people "no I am not suspicious". Don't like it. Who do you think should be lynched? read big post above | ||
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On August 05 2014 22:56 marvellosity wrote: answer my question if you missed it please gobbledy. The difference? Do my reads look forced to you here? I'm pretty sure they seemed forced in the mafia games because I was mafia and I had to lie. | ||
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On August 05 2014 23:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Gobble I think your case is bad in that it doesn't explain why Haru is scum, at least the first part doesn't really matter to me. Scum is more likely to invent a bs reason to vote someone rather than just sheeping. I still think the strongest points are:
Adding to this, he seemed over-obsessed on game setup at the beginning. Usually it's the mafias who spend time talking about the game setup and its implications. Since game setup isn't all that important compared to making actual reads, this is scummy because it's a useful way to generate text without it actually being significant. | ||
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On August 05 2014 23:07 HaruRH wrote: wrong. I'm both scumreading and null reading these people. However, I draw the line between 'promised reads' vs 'never posting reads', which pooft is already stating, gobble is already doing. Also, artanis' s sheepvote is unwarranted. This post ^ above is not saying anything conclusive. Yes, from now on, I'm going full throttle. why the fuck would I promise to make a read, either I make a read and I post it, or I don't and you don't get to hear it. | ||
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For those who question my newbiness: It's true I played one game as town on webdiplomacy.net but it was my first ever mafia game, and I got N1 killed. So that's not much help. But I have never played town on TL, and I certainly haven't played anywhere else. | ||
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On August 06 2014 08:09 Holyflare wrote: So yeh i saw the gobbledy ninja vote on vivax after deadline so he's around and should probably explain himself Also the obi hesitancy was really fucking strange 1) I didn't realize it was after deadline until I posted it. 2) I'm in class don't expect me to post every minute 3) I did it because everyone was saying switch, we might no lynch. I didn't count how many votes were on Vivax before I voted because it was one minute to deadline and I was really concerned there would be a no lynch and I should vote asap. Turns out there were enough votes, and also it was too late. | ||
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On August 06 2014 08:45 Tehpoofter wrote: I agree you haven't ever rolled town on TL still. Better luck next game. good luck mislynching me It's pointless to argue with you or kush, you assume I am mafia and then try to fit my posts to your narrative, it's no use to argue. | ||
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On August 06 2014 07:32 kushm4sta wrote: This is gobbles scum meta: Misrepresenting townie actions to make them seem scummy. Here's gobbles misrepresenting haru's mechanics discussion:+ Show Spoiler + On August 04 2014 21:21 gobbledydook wrote: went through haru's filter, not impressed. First there's quite a lot of defending wave from meta-scumread, where his argument is very awkward. Then there's his weird scumread on hf/gk/eden, which I still don't think makes sense, why would you suggest they are acting pro-town therefore are scum? By his logic we should lynch all the most vocal towns first to catch the 'hidden mafia', oh wait, nope they were all town, mafia is laughing to the bank. So what he has said is awkward, misleading, and hasn't actually said much of note. He's on my scumreads right now, but behind Artanis. Here he misrepresents the reasons why Haru called someone scummy: + Show Spoiler + On August 05 2014 22:53 gobbledydook wrote: Here he sheeps on Artanis. The post before the vote he says something really vague that isn't even necessarily correct. Then he votes Artanis without any reason other than basically other people voted too. No attempt to substantiate the vote. If he were trying to scumhunt would he not have a better reason than 'Artanis is close to someone I think is suspicious'? I thought mafia generally avoid associating with each other? The conclusion therefore, is he's just voting so he can put his vote somewhere. Feel free to go through his filter and read the rest of his cases. Here's a little preview: yup generalized bullshit. and when he gets own to specifics, those specifics are lies. 1. I don't think I am misrepresenting Haru. I believe what I said is completely true, that Haru has been flinging shit around (and flinging more shit after the heat got on him). He's posted little of value apart from giving vague reads on seven different people and discussing to death the implication of this completely vanilla setup. 2. I think kush is town, I don't think mafia kush would come up with something so detailed against me. But he's barking up the wrong tree. | ||
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Regarding tehpoofter of course there's the difference in perspective between me and everyone else reading, I know I'm town and when I call him out he omguses me and generally sheeps kush's arguments without providing any reasoning other than quoting a post and saying 'that's so scum'. To me that's mafia deflecting attention by attacking his attackers. As for some town reads: kush, HF, marv, Eden are strong town reads, strong analysis, very actively trying to scumhunt and prise information from other people. | ||
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On August 06 2014 10:48 Eden1892 wrote: working overnights sucks. i hope i didn't miss anything important and that eod wasn't dramatic or kneejerk Last-fifteen-minute switch onto Vivax who flipped town. So you did miss something important. | ||
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On August 06 2014 09:08 kushm4sta wrote: wanna update us on your artanis read real quick? I liked his post defending me from haru's attack, I think those are convincing reasons why haru is scum. I didn't like how he hopped onto the vivax bandwagon without any explanation, when at that time if he had stayed on haru probably haru would be dead by now. So I don't think haru and artanis are both scum, I don't see why artanis would scumread haru and actually raise new points about his posting if he was scum too. Artanis scum haru town seems unlikely, why did he have to raise suspicion by doing the swap when haru was perfectly scummy for him to mislynch? Artanis town seems most likely, Artanis is reasonably confident that haru is scum, but he trusts in HF's vivax bandwagon (lapse in judgment for a second? sheep mentality?) and there goes the yoloswitch. This is also the reason why I think last minute switches are retarded, you just don't give enough time for town to think through that choice and emotional pushes on wrong targets are what mafias like and want to see. | ||
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On August 06 2014 14:25 Eden1892 wrote: i could swear i talked about the marv/hf thing. but in-between bouts of restless sleep awaiting poofter's return i could well have dreamt it i thought the vivax lynch made marv look significantly worse than hf because pre-edit: lol i did here you go, i just didn't use any names so it didn't make any sense basically marv was sitting around watching for someone to sheep almost, reading eod. he seemed lost which is really out-of-character for him imo. i can understand it to an extent, but i didn't really feel like vivax made sense and... i dunno it just looked convenient to hop on hyperconfident holyflare's lynch i almost never scumread people who drive a new wagon at EOD unless the original wagon flips scum, i'm sure one day someone clever like onceking will burn me for it but until it happens i've literally never seen scum drum up a town bandwagon at eod to counter another town wagon WITH ALL THAT SAID i'm likely tinfoiling if i seriously consider the idea of either of them being scum right now, i would guess this is a moot question because they get n1'd and n2'd Does this imply that if haru flips scum, then you're hard scumreading marv? | ||
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On August 06 2014 14:54 Eden1892 wrote: OK so I think the Vivax lynch was dumb but town-driven. Here's why. 1. Either we had a mafia wagon out of Haru or gobble on d1, or we didn't. 2. If we had a mafia wagon on d1, that strongly implies to me, from past experience, that the mafia have very weak thread presence. It's not difficult at all to deflect a lynch onto a townie on the first day, before anyone has flipped. 3. If the mafia have a very weak thread presence, then it is significantly unlikely that the Vivax wagon, which was generated very rapidly and effectively on very short notice, is mafia-driven, because if the mafia had the thread presence to generate that wagon that quickly, they would never have had a teammate up for a lynch in the first place. 4. If the Vivax wagon is not mafia-driven, then it is town-driven. 5. If we didn't have a mafia wagon on d1, that strongly implies to me, from past experience and analysis of incentives, that the mafia wouldn't have generated a third wagon. Generating a wagon is a risky venture for mafia because they have to fabricate a case and be public about pushing it, which puts them in the spotlight and forces them to work hard to look townie. Furthermore if they already have two town wagons set up, they're in an ideal spot. Not only do they not stand to gain anything from generating another wagon, they might accidentally cause a shakeup in some of the townies' thought processes with the sudden movement that causes the mafia to lose control of the situation. Mafia very strongly favor a static, not dynamic, game state. 6. If the mafia wouldn't have generated a third wagon (the Vivax wagon), then the Vivax wagon must be town-driven. 7. Regardless of whether or not the Haru and/or gobble wagons are town or mafia, the Vivax wagon is town-driven. 8. Therefore, the Vivax wagon is town-driven. We need to be looking at people who were hesitant to jump on the Vivax wagon or change anything up. People who jumped on the wagon late in the turn, or people who were around during the last hour or so but didn't move their vote or acknowledge the shift much, are more likely to be mafia than those who got on the Vivax wagon early. From my point of view: I think there was never really enough traction on me to get me lynched, especially since Haru looked scummier than I did. Also from my perspective Haru is scum as I said, so therefore mafia needed an alternative target. I think marv (who I read town) derped when he started the wagon, but we know that the wagon wouldn't have left the station if not enough people were on board. Here's where the mafia come in, they push the wagon over the critical mass and it causes a massive wreck. I believe there's at least 1 mafia, probably 2 in the vivax train. My guess would be Haru and poofter, in that order of confidence. | ||
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On August 07 2014 07:26 justanothertownie wrote: lol, what kind of mindset is this? It's the fuck you kush and marv mindset I'm through with this bullshit tunnelling. You only have four fucking mislynches to lose and if the response to me flipping town is welp oops then fuck this shit I didn't know kush could be that bad. | ||
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On August 07 2014 07:44 justanothertownie wrote: This reaction is really unwarranted. Nothing I say will convince him so why should I try? Waste of words? | ||
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He's fucking trying to kill me. He refuses to consider any town motive I may have. Is there any point? | ||
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On August 07 2014 07:47 Holyflare wrote: Why have you just said this now when he's spent the past 5 pages on me? I'm sorry I'm just really pissed. | ||
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##vote gobbledydook since you want to lose so much I'll play along im so done | ||
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Would consider a marv lynch based on that alone. | ||
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On August 07 2014 11:33 goodkarma wrote: From given up --> lynch Marv in 20 minutes... Interesting i finished raging | ||
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would you prefer me rage for 20 minutes or 20 hours i can do 20 hours too | ||
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On August 07 2014 00:19 marvellosity wrote: the thing is, i really think kush is town, and he's been pretty damn handy at catching mafia lately, and he seems really really convinced that gobble is mafia. it kinda feels like a leap of faith is called for. On August 07 2014 00:28 marvellosity wrote: why not? if someone's in good form and is convinced someone is mafia, that's kinda compelling. i get tons of lynches through like that. sheeping good skill to have tbh. 'Someone has been right lately so I'm just going to blindly trust him even though I'm not sold on his arguments' Either there's a case of cognitive bias here where marv just remembers the times he gets lucky with his sheeping, or he's trying to back away from his read with a semi-plausible reason. My question is, if he's town and doesn't think I'm town any more, why doesn't he give his own reasoning why I'm now scum other than 'kush thinks gobbledydook is scum'? | ||
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On August 07 2014 12:48 goodkarma wrote: So just to be clear your proposed scumteam now is: Haru, Poofter, Marv And you feel okay about everyone else? Those three are on my bad list, I haven't reread everyone's filter yet so I cannot say for sure they are OK. In particular I haven't quite got around to analyzing the cases on holyflare. | ||
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So here comes vivax, he's gone all day since at the beginning when haru was making that +1/-1 posts. So naturally he's still thinking of that, and then holyflare hard scumreads him for him attacking everyone on haru at that point but not actually commenting on the haru argument. From what I read vivax had already established his haru townread and since he thinks scum are mislynching him he is trying to find out who's scum in his enemies. For some god knows reason aka 'being a dick' he gets EOD wagoned, and then the recrimination flies everywhere, eden and kush who didn't join the EOD wagon incriminate him for instigating the lynch... This is a complete disaster. I don't know what to take from this. I don't even think all this wagon-starting and recrimination is indicative of alignment at all, there's way too much bad in there that anyone, town or mafia likewise, could pick holes in them. I don't know if HF is scum or town, he's posted lots of strong reads (but a scum HF is perfectly capable of doing that as well as town I assume), but he's also caused a huge ruckus over vivax (that could be scum muddying the waters or town just not wanting to admit he was wrong). Can someone guide me through that ten pages of shit? | ||
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Town Poofters and see how much more useful he is when he's town. and his mafia game in World Cup Mini: Scum Poofters and see how he has only 5 pages of mostly shit by end of day 2. QED we got one! | ||
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On August 07 2014 22:17 marvellosity wrote: tbh I'm really not sure on gobbledy but i'm kinda terrified of making the error that kush dies with good reads and then we all end up ignoring him. i hate when that happens to me, so much. trust in your championship belt | ||
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On August 08 2014 07:01 Tehpoofter wrote: haha that sentence was a train wreck I was typing it between phone calls.I meant to say "It would be ease to throw scum on vivax for a goobly lynch if he was town. (Seeing as vivax already got lynched yesterday enough people thought he was scummy and or an asshole) Then myself who people find scummy thus 2 town mafia could have "framed" for a bad kill on goobly should he actually be town. (I should proof read more) Obi is bad for what I said below. Maybe not dumpster tier but I don't like it. what the fuck are you saying I don't understand at all | ||
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On August 08 2014 06:13 Tehpoofter wrote: I summarized it from memory in a reply to WoS earlier. 1) Shit accusation of me that was scummy for multiple reasons I immediately pointed out 2) Very pure wagon on him Me you Kush Vivax really close to EoD Maifa could have hoped on that ez pz 3) He was around at EoD but didn't talk and had time to vote though. Weird and shit. 4) His contributions haven't been anything to note imo So we getting back together? This post is so scum. Point 1 and 4 apply even more so to himself, omg the hypocrisy. Point 2 is just borrowing credence from confirmed towns to justify a lynch with a bad reason. I don't see a town needing to emphasize how towny a wagon he is on is. Point 3 is just him not reading the thread and trying to add an extra point. The ninja vivax switch that didn't work has been discussed to death and he conveniently ignore the discussion and uses it to attack me. I just don't see any town posting like this. | ||
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On August 08 2014 08:53 marvellosity wrote: case on tehpoofter = he is useless asshole case on artanis/onegu = he is useless asshole (artanis) and he (onegu) conforms in every way to his mafia meta case 2 > case 1 there i did it. Thanks. I just wanted to be sure why the case on onegu is stronger than the case on poofter. It looks 100% legit to me, I can see the obvious similarities with his mafia play before. ##vote: onegu | ||
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On August 08 2014 08:59 Holyflare wrote: I... Don't even Problem? | ||
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On August 08 2014 09:01 Holyflare wrote: Have you ever pursued a career as an actor? No, I'm a terrible actor. | ||
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I can just go put my vote back on myself and you can see when I flip town that I'm just a shitty town. | ||
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On August 08 2014 09:57 Eden1892 wrote: I forget did we decide you're not scum yet you're next poof | ||
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On August 08 2014 10:09 Tehpoofter wrote: I ain't going no where goobzilla! I will | ||
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On August 08 2014 10:14 Tehpoofter wrote: I was always nice i was just gone. Marv calling me an asshole hurt my feelings though. Yo Eden. What do you think about HF? I went through your filter again and I have seen 0 instances of you making any read on HF and then you want to order other people to make reads. Why don't *you* make a read on HF? | ||
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On August 08 2014 10:30 Tehpoofter wrote: Hmm I doubt that you did that severely. + Show Spoiler + On August 04 2014 11:59 Tehpoofter wrote: I'll be posting all reads in Bang Marry Kill format Marry meaning I'm in it for the long haul Bang means I'm using you for your vote Kill is obvious. These mega solid late game reads I have thus far. Marry: No one has won my heart over yet. I'll find someone to put a ring on it. Bang: Hf, Eden Kill: Haru, Marv I can't give any reasons. Except that HF is non-game related. On August 05 2014 12:23 Tehpoofter wrote: I called him scummy because at the start of the game I said I had a different between HF and Marv and HF was leaning townie he was my bang On August 05 2014 17:16 Tehpoofter wrote: Tehpoofter's Love Life Marry: I am going to be a bit old fashioned here and just pick one man/woman to be the one... that I carry throughout the game with me. Eden will you be mine? Bang: I'd tap these assess and its cool cause me and Eden have an open relationship. Kushm6sta, ObiwAn, GoodKarma, Holyflare Kill: These people I don't have any interest in banging so they're just plain dead to me. Goobzilla, Haru, Marv If you're not on the list its cause You're in that weird spot between I could be interested if you were hotter and drunk one night stand. I can substantiate most of these reads. MArv the least so I am just scared of the game I'm in he is mafia. ##Vote Gooblyzilla Since the 2 reads post I have include him plus that third instance I found simply searching "HF" in my filter. Try again. For an updated read I still think I'd bang HF but hes towards the bottom of the pile. Those aren't even HF reads, they're just lists that include HF without any justification. And why is HF slightly-towny now? | ||
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On August 08 2014 11:00 Tehpoofter wrote: I read HF as town because of his play this game. I feel he has pushed on people who have been scummy and come off people if they show towniness. Hes not tunneling like a donkey and doesn't seem to be buddying up to hard to anyone. Two of his mafia esq traits imo. I have him slightly less townie because of his lower activity today (still quite high but if you know HF lower) blah blah blah generalised stuff blah blah blah\ you could say that for any towny person. | ||
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On August 08 2014 13:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote: You're grossly underestimating the RL strings I had to pull just to be around at EoD. Saying that I'm scummy for not knowing who the fuck to lynch at the very end of the day is absolute bullshit. I could have just thrown my vote down on Haru and fucked right off with a very real and believable excuse and we wouldn't even have a problem. I get that you have an issue with me not pushing my scumreads; really, I do. I get gunshy because, as a guy who has gotten mislynched under the absolute worst fucking circumstances, I absolutely hate missing as town. I even made it clear to the thread that I wouldn't be around EoD. I could have just not shown up at all. But I did. I did, and I tried my best but at the end of the day I was still relatively unsure. Ultimately, I threw my vote down on GD, and that should have cleared any doubts that you had, but for some reason it doesn't. If you're going to go after me for not liking killing people a whole lot, then go ahead. Don't sit here and fuck with me for not going after people for the slightest bullshit like you do. Since you appeared: What's your opinion of marv's case on onegu/artanis? It's the biggest thing happening recently and ctrl-F suggests you haven't had your say on it yet. | ||
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On August 08 2014 13:39 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I don't know. I'll check. Why were you so pissed off at kush? You never bothered talking to him about his case and you really only came out when he was dead. Why didn't you address him? What was there to say to him? He was determined to get me lynched and he rejected all the town arguments other people e.g. Eden made about me. If someone good like eden can't convince him the shitty town gobbledydook can't either. Then I got frustrated because people were riding on the dead kush's read when the fact that kush is town doesn't make his argument any more correct it only means it wasn't made out of malice. | ||
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On August 08 2014 13:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote: You wouldn't know, because you never bothered to address him. You basically coasted out the entirety of the night sequence and only came out when he was dead: ergo, we have no idea whether you would have shaken his hard scumread on you or not. Do you or do you not see the problem with the timing of you reappearing in this game? Since you want to talk about timing? This is right after deadline when I responded to kush's accusation made half an hour before EOD: On August 06 2014 08:55 gobbledydook wrote: 1. I don't think I am misrepresenting Haru. I believe what I said is completely true, that Haru has been flinging shit around (and flinging more shit after the heat got on him). He's posted little of value apart from giving vague reads on seven different people and discussing to death the implication of this completely vanilla setup. 2. I think kush is town, I don't think mafia kush would come up with something so detailed against me. But he's barking up the wrong tree. Here's me responding to his question about my read on Artanis a few hours later On August 06 2014 11:44 gobbledydook wrote: I liked his post defending me from haru's attack, I think those are convincing reasons why haru is scum. I didn't like how he hopped onto the vivax bandwagon without any explanation, when at that time if he had stayed on haru probably haru would be dead by now. So I don't think haru and artanis are both scum, I don't see why artanis would scumread haru and actually raise new points about his posting if he was scum too. Artanis scum haru town seems unlikely, why did he have to raise suspicion by doing the swap when haru was perfectly scummy for him to mislynch? Artanis town seems most likely, Artanis is reasonably confident that haru is scum, but he trusts in HF's vivax bandwagon (lapse in judgment for a second? sheep mentality?) and there goes the yoloswitch. This is also the reason why I think last minute switches are retarded, you just don't give enough time for town to think through that choice and emotional pushes on wrong targets are what mafias like and want to see. He then goes Adkins, reappearing at 9pm my time when I'm playing league and not on this thread and then I went to sleep, I wake up next morning about an hour before deadline and I see kush mass posting cases on me that I know are wrong while I was sleeping. He has not referred to the two responses I made to him once at all, instead talking about my game on webdip yadayada. So you see why I get this impression he doesn't care what I say? I say something, he flat out ignores what I say and keeps hard scumreading me for something else. | ||
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On August 08 2014 14:26 Eden1892 wrote: Sorry lemme be more specific with that question I feel like being "super down" with a lynch implies you feel fairly strongly that person is scum. Yes? If so then I do think that's a pretty significant shift in your opinion on gobble compared to your prior posts on him. I'm wondering what changed about the game to account for that shift. The only things that changed is vivax died, and I made and explained a ninja vote on vivax. I don't see how either of these changes make me any scummier. | ||
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On August 09 2014 11:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Yes. Ass read OP? I think we should lynch poofter for still being a useless asshole. | ||
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I know my filter's short but I don't like spam posting everything that comes up in my mind. I'm also not going to martyr like I did yesterday because we can't afford another mislynch. My proposed scumteam is poofter obi haru. Obi's been pretty devoid of content in this game, when I played him in Noir Mini, he was capable of producing good, detailed reads as town. So I think the fact that he hasn't posted anything that made me think 'hm thats good', points to him being scum. Poofter is a worse offender and I've already pointed out before how his play fits his mafia meta more than his town meta, see my filter for details. Haru has amazingly posted 1 page of non-committal stuff in three (!) days. He was posting a lot when he was up for lynch day 1, and since the pressure dissipated, he hasn't found a reason to keep posting, aka he's a mafia only posting because he has to. | ||
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On August 10 2014 11:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote: The fuck, I didn't post anything good in Noir. I bitched at someone because they were pissing me off and wound up completely ineffectual all game before I died on night 2. That's a gross misrepresentation of my meta. Well I was mafia in Noir and that wasn't what I thought. But you're entitled to your opinion and I'm entitled to call for an obi lynch. | ||
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On August 10 2014 11:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Gd, why is it that it only took two minutes for marv to change your mind about lynching onegu over Poofter? Almost your entire filter consists of you trying to lynch Poofter, but you pretty much stop pursuing it entirely when marv tells you to. His reason was pretty good, he agreed that poofter was scummy for being useless, but he proved that onegu was useless *and* perfectly fits his mafia meta, even though it turned out he was wrong. In no way did I say poofter shouldn't be lynched, marv just convinced me we lynch onegu first. | ||
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On August 10 2014 12:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Yeah, but it only took you two minutes to change your lynch target. You made no effort to pursue Poofter as a lynch at any point, and you just kind of fucked off when you put your vote down on onegu. It looked like you didn't really care. middle of night 1 On August 07 2014 20:40 gobbledydook wrote: I agree with tehpoofter being useless. Compare this to his town game in Newbie Mafia LVI: Town Poofters and see how much more useful he is when he's town. and his mafia game in World Cup Mini: Scum Poofters and see how he has only 5 pages of mostly shit by end of day 2. QED we got one! end of night 1 On August 08 2014 07:38 gobbledydook wrote: This post is so scum. Point 1 and 4 apply even more so to himself, omg the hypocrisy. Point 2 is just borrowing credence from confirmed towns to justify a lynch with a bad reason. I don't see a town needing to emphasize how towny a wagon he is on is. Point 3 is just him not reading the thread and trying to add an extra point. The ninja vivax switch that didn't work has been discussed to death and he conveniently ignore the discussion and uses it to attack me. I just don't see any town posting like this. Then marv comes up with a compelling case than I did on onegu, I ask him why I should lynch onegu before poofter, he gives me the reason. I certainly didn't change my read in 2 minutes, you're just misrepresenting me now. | ||
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On August 10 2014 14:25 HaruRH wrote: When I get back to my computer in a few hours, scum is going to get it. I am going to decimate them so hard, oh boy. Put on your seatbelts, gobble/wave, for I shall dive you guys so deep, even marina trench is shallow. Oh boy. ![[image loading]](http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/stephan-feck-dive-fail.gif) I'm waiting for this. | ||
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On August 10 2014 14:16 HaruRH wrote: Btw, gobble have not been mentioning me for the past 3 days. Suddenly, he scumread me for being not so active. This is REALLLLLY BAD (ALSO BAD REASONING), so either you're a donkey town or you're scum. I would lean with scum. Also I omgused because I'm pissed. ##Vote: gobble you omgused because you're scum give it up | ||
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The Balrog in question is undeniably haru obi and poofter. | ||
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On August 11 2014 07:52 Holyflare wrote: this game feels abnormally hard trust yourself make your choice i wont blame you if its wrong | ||
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On August 11 2014 08:02 goodkarma wrote: Fuck this game. I'm done for now. Can anyone tell me if the 24 hour day was from the beginning because if it was ninja added it was a nefarious thing to do. It was in the setup. 48 hours first 2 days, 24 hours thereafter. | ||
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On August 11 2014 08:37 Holyflare wrote: what role did you get? 'you are town' | ||
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On August 11 2014 08:37 Holyflare wrote: what role did you get? what's the point of asking though, it's not like any scum would ever admit it. | ||
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On August 11 2014 14:23 goodkarma wrote: Do you seriously think we stand a snowflake's prayer in hell of getting through this game without ensuring everyone consolidates? What I suggested is one way to ensure a non-scum influenced lynch. There's enough scummy people in this game right now that we're very unlikely to go 3 for 3 otherwise. Otherwise scum just goes "yeah this guy looks scummy," steers a lynch, and we lose gg. As it is, it's a very hard battle. I kinda doubt we recover and win this. But /sheep is the best thing we can do. And if you /sheep the dude who just died, you guarantee a townie-led lynch. And if you have that dude post the desired lynch target just before deadline, scum nightkill couldn't have possibly been influenced by directing a mislynch based on people's reads. There's no doubt other ways to go about this, but I like mine the bestest. If you want to come up with your own method feel free to, but I'd encourage you to think up something instead of berating me and fast. It's pretty clear you're going pants-on-head right now. Quite honestly, if you're going to be super-bad and disregard any suggestions to ensure some semblance of consolidation and as a result, ensure we lose, I really don't have the energy to argue right now. I can't be bothered to dive in and solve this game anything I say will probably get ignored anyway. People have this super-stupid idea that if you don't post a ton you don't have anything meaningful to say. And so we get caught up in this shit-post war when anything off the top of your mind gets thrown onto paper and posted. It doesn't do anyone any favors, makes the game unreadable, and hurts town. This is probably my last game for at least a while. It was nowhere near this bad before, and I honestly can't understand how it ever got this way. Only playing limited post games if I play in the future 20+ page shitfilters aren't worth my time. I don't get your logic at all, confirmed town isn't any more likely to be right than unconfirmed town. Instead of blindly sheeping confirmed town, instead we must use logic and reasoning to deduce the 3 scums. | ||
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On August 11 2014 21:32 Eden1892 wrote: In order I want to lynch Holyflare then goodkarma. I'm kinda waffly on my Haru and justanothertownie reads and so I don't mind waiting until the end for that. But I'm more confident in Holyflare and goodkarma than I've been in any read I can remember all game; if I'm right on them then I think my reads on everyone else pretty well fall into place by associations; and if I'm wrong then we lose anyway, so I would rather focus attention on the reads I feel good about and see if I can get them lynched or if I have another change of heart. Your case on HF can be boiled down to one sentence: he's good but somehow not dead. Your jat case is basically an association case, so if HF is scum then jat is scum. The goodkarma case I can agree with, now that I think about it I don't really seem to have noticed him post anything important or striking, and that's a good mafia heuristic. Once we lynch goodkarma and he flips scum, we can then see whether HF gets nightkilled (after you presumably). | ||
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On August 12 2014 09:29 goodkarma wrote: I'm sheeping HF's read. He's the dead townie, and sheeping dead townie was my plan. He did what I suggested, and I'm following my plan. From everything I've seen, he's a better player than you and the rest of the people here. He totally deserves to be sheeped. That you're still alive after being townread by many here is also more than a little strange. To be perfectly honest, minus this huge spurt of activity super-late into the game, I don't recall you saying anything meaningful. You've trolled for multiple pages early into the game, deliberabely spammed on numerous occasion and called yourself townie for doing it (showing awareness of the whole nonsensical "he posts a lot therefore he's town" meta people have been following here), and you really haven't tunneled people much. Like you've kinda just gone with the flow and let things happen. I clearly remember you telling me in chat when we hydra'ed you like to tunnel people. I haven't seen anything like this this game. You've been fairly lost much of the game, and I'm convinced that it's been deliberate. HF clearly had reasons for thinking you're scum if he dies and I agree. You don't just troll-post "kill Eden if I die" at the zero-minute mark before night ends. There was literally ZERO chance that scum had the option to act on that post, and as such HF in his last dying breath gave town a chance to actually push a proper scum lynch today. That chance is you, and I'm sticking with it. Everyone who's town should join it's our best bet. That's a complete misrepresentation of Eden's filter. From a cursory reread of Eden's filter (which I admit is too long to study in detail), I get the feeling of a tryhard town solving the game through methods conventional and unconventional. I totally don't get any scumfeels off his filter. You are taking his trolling/post-count-inflation as scum actions when those actions are very non-indicative of alignment. Also your /sheep is just a cop-out so you can borrow HF's name to advance your own interests, which I very much believe is mafia agenda. ##vote: Goodkarma and may you burn in mafia hell | ||
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On August 12 2014 11:40 goodkarma wrote: It already is Les Mafia. Only difference is I gave you guys a method to consolidate this time, and you couldn't be fucking bothered to consider it. I considered it and my conclusion is that you're scum. | ||
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On August 12 2014 12:05 WaveofShadow wrote: Who has a good reason to townread Haru right now? I don't. In fact I've scumread him last night and the reason still stands today. | ||
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Gobbledydook People I'm 99% sure town: Eden1892, WaveofShadow People I'm not that sure of: JAT Probably scum: Obi, Haru Scum, lynch this fuck now: goodkarma It's time to recall the lessons of Palmar: if you didn't notice him, he's probably scum. If you noticed him for something really bad, he's probably just a shitty town. At this point I cannot find a reason to believe Eden or WoS could be mafia. The level of their analysis and effort is not something that I think can be faked. I also *remember* what they said, wave made those 2 epic analysis posts on HF and haru, while eden is eden and he's been pushing reads all game. JAT is an enigma. He *could* be scum. He's on the townier side for me but it's worrying that without rereading his filter I can't actually remember what he had ever said. He might be a scum that's good at not being noticed. The remaining 3: I'm really sure of goodkarma. I can't remember at all what he said in the previous days but it certainly wasn't anything towny. Upon reread, things he did on day 1: Defend haru with some handwavey 'mafia generally don't rage hardcore when tunnelled' argument Ask people 'what is your read' Sheep onto poofter (We now know poofter is town), then only giving reasoning that's pretty much what everyone else said, after being pressured to give reasoning. Sheep onto vivax Look at the case on vivax: On August 06 2014 03:49 goodkarma wrote: The lynch deadline is the worst in the history of deadlines... Marv wants Vivax dead? I'll sheep that. ##Unvote ##Vote: Vivax While I still like lynching Poof it kinda is a policy lynch at this point. Not sure how much more I should have expected from the guy... Vivax, on the other hand, has done some substantially scummy stuff. This quote you used Kush was constructed 8 hours after my last post of the night. Don't you find it a bit odd that he'd call me out for not talking to Wave when I was clearly asleep? I seeded suspicions in this post, but given Vivax didn't ever come back I never followed up.: The guy has been "pressuring" people for a good portion of the game, but he's never really called people scum (until super-recently in a sheepish way). I find this really odd. The Vivax that liked to tunnel me in times past had no trouble doing so. It's also worth mentioning that he hasn't really touched up on his old reads all that much. Especially me, which is significant given how much time he dedicated to pressuring me before. In Marv I trust. Sheep sheep. I really wish I could elaborate more, but this deadline is super awful for me. I'll try to pop in a little before the deadline but don't expect elaborate posts of any kind from me until evening. One more thing.: It should be considered that Haru hadn't really shared meaningful reads until his listpost. No matter how he presented his reads it would have looked scummy given all the time that had past. Keep that in mind. Something's just *wrong* with that post now that I look at it with the knowledge that vivax is town. The logic doesn't sit well with me. The case is literally 'vivax hasn't been tunnelling', which is another handwavey argument that ignores all the reasons why vivax might behave like he did. Day 2 is just him sheeping onegu but that's not alignment indicative, literally everyone sheeped onegu. Day 3 is him sheeping poofter and me. Poofter died. Night 3 he explains why everyone should sheep: On August 11 2014 14:23 goodkarma wrote: Do you seriously think we stand a snowflake's prayer in hell of getting through this game without ensuring everyone consolidates? What I suggested is one way to ensure a non-scum influenced lynch. There's enough scummy people in this game right now that we're very unlikely to go 3 for 3 otherwise. Otherwise scum just goes "yeah this guy looks scummy," steers a lynch, and we lose gg. As it is, it's a very hard battle. I kinda doubt we recover and win this. But /sheep is the best thing we can do. And if you /sheep the dude who just died, you guarantee a townie-led lynch. And if you have that dude post the desired lynch target just before deadline, scum nightkill couldn't have possibly been influenced by directing a mislynch based on people's reads. There's no doubt other ways to go about this, but I like mine the bestest. If you want to come up with your own method feel free to, but I'd encourage you to think up something instead of berating me and fast. It's pretty clear you're going pants-on-head right now. Quite honestly, if you're going to be super-bad and disregard any suggestions to ensure some semblance of consolidation and as a result, ensure we lose, I really don't have the energy to argue right now. I can't be bothered to dive in and solve this game anything I say will probably get ignored anyway. People have this super-stupid idea that if you don't post a ton you don't have anything meaningful to say. And so we get caught up in this shit-post war when anything off the top of your mind gets thrown onto paper and posted. It doesn't do anyone any favors, makes the game unreadable, and hurts town. This is probably my last game for at least a while. It was nowhere near this bad before, and I honestly can't understand how it ever got this way. Only playing limited post games if I play in the future 20+ page shitfilters aren't worth my time. has this guy done literally anything other than sheeping? I expect townies to be able to use their own brains. mafia on the other hand...nothing beats a good sheep. That way you can blame the shepherd when it inevitably mislynches town. | ||
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On August 12 2014 12:38 Eden1892 wrote: Stalling Throwing town for a loop Drawing townies into arguments that go nowhere (and can't go anywhere) ?Possibly? deliberate appeal to self-meta Better than the alternative, short of overly-indulgent schadenfreude (which is NOT who I pegged goodkarma for), a townie gains nothing out of his approach how u like my magnum opus | ||
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On August 12 2014 12:41 goodkarma wrote: @Gobble: I would disagree. Sheeping grabs tons of attentions for the reasons you've cited. For a disciple of Palmar you could sure do better using his suggestions in context. Literally the point of sheeping is to not have to make a long ass post describing why the wagon you're on is scum. Long posts are harder to hide than short sheep posts. I don't see how sheeping is *more* noticeable than making actual cases. Please try again. | ||
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On August 12 2014 12:42 goodkarma wrote: Stalling? That's a pretty stupid reason. You do realize I'm only here the next few hours right? And that evenings are the only times I can spend in earnest to this game beyond the cursory random post. WRONG Try again. I probably spend less time on mafia than you do (it reflects in the number of pages in my filter) and I've been on the noose for quite a while. And I actually haven't just gone about stalling, I actually make reads. | ||
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On August 12 2014 12:46 WaveofShadow wrote: This entire post is wrong. You try again. It seems pretty right to me. Let's set the logic out: Definition: A sheep is a vote that is placed due to trusting someone else. (1) From 1) it follows that a sheep vote needs little explanation because the explanation is given by the trusted player. (2) Assumption: Votes should come with an explanation. (3) From (3) it follows that a non-sheep vote, due to not having an explanation from another source, requires its own explanation. (4) Assumption: Explanation requires a considerable amount of words. (5) From (2) (5) and (4) it follows that a sheep vote contains less text than a non sheep vote. (6) Fact: A post that contains more text takes more time to read. (7) Assumption: The longer it takes to read something, the more you remember that such text existed. (8) From (6), (7), (8) it follows that sheep votes are less noticeable than non-sheep votes. | ||
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On August 12 2014 12:45 WaveofShadow wrote: Actually I disagree. It depends entirely on the context of the sheep, who you're sheeping, why, etc. For example some of the time you can get away with sheeping for no reason while other times if you don't provide a reason you get torn apart. GD, (I think it was in this game that) marv said something along the lines of knowing when to sheep and when not to is important for town (or townie, or something). DO you believe GK deliberately chose to sheep badly or did what a great deal of other townies have done in this game and simply fucked up? Can you prove it either way? GK. Is Eden scum? So WoS I have 3 basically confirmed towns in my mind who are alive, which is me, you and eden. None of you nor me shept extensively. vivax didn't sheep, onegu didn't get to sheep before he died, artanis shept once and then got replaced. poofter was hard scumreading me for most of the game, but he gave his reasons, definitely not deliberately sheeping. Everyone who is confirmed town shept once. But there's only one person who has been sheeping for 3 days in a row. Once? Fucked up. Three times? Doing it on purpose. | ||
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On August 12 2014 13:17 WaveofShadow wrote: SO what you're saying then is he is scum for sheeping onto the wrong wagon three times, correct? Is he the only one who did so? Correct, and correct. I checked the scummy people's filter too just now, none of the scummy people sheeped multiple times either. | ||
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On August 12 2014 13:24 gobbledydook wrote: Correct, and correct. I checked the scummy people's filter too just now, none of the scummy people sheeped multiple times either. EBWOP it makes sense that not all scum mass sheep, it would be too easy if all scum used the same strategy. | ||
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On August 12 2014 13:36 Eden1892 wrote: Game is suddenly not hard, tybg Cannot imagine JAT just deciding to scum read 2/3 of his team before LYLO when he did LYLO policy lynch people who aren't trying so OP I fell asleep reading JAT's filter of twenty pages of one liners. Then right near the end I see his Vote Association Post. The thing is I could replace obi with JAT and come to the same conclusion. It could actually be a JAT/gk/haru scumteam. I wouldn't count JAT out yet, I could plausibly see this as a bus attempt. Remember mafia have 3 lylos in a row to lose before they die. If bussing 2 obviously shitty scumbuddies secures the win, I don't see why JAT wouldn't go for it. but first goodkarma dies its obvious. | ||
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On August 12 2014 14:14 Eden1892 wrote: What are my current scum reads Cav? What's my rationale and how did I make them up? I think we just solved the game. obi haru gk scumteam gogo | ||
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On August 12 2014 14:20 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I'm still baffled as to how we lynched Vivax over you. You should have fucking died day 1. so your proposed scum team is me eden and ??? | ||
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I think we lynch goodkarma first. | ||
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So what I'll do is before i sleep, I'll post my vote and you guys follow. | ||
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On August 12 2014 20:32 Eden1892 wrote: I'm trying to avoid that, lol. I trust you but if for whatever reason the other three of us decide someone else is a better target it would suck to be railroaded into whatever vote you put down. No chance you can set an alarm to be up for at least 15 mins or so before it's over? I know I'm gonna be sleeping through the day here since I worked all night. I'll try my best. | ||
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On August 13 2014 06:55 justanothertownie wrote: Sounds like a plan. We have the added benifit of killing the biggest douche in the game. yep ok | ||
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let me go back to sleep | ||
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I'm basically 100% sure of haru/gk/obi scumteam, otherwise ggwp. To be honest I don't really see anything related to bussing as a legit argument at LYLO. Because at the end of the day, any scum that flips must by definition have all town on the wagon and so not bussing is suicide for scum. | ||
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On August 13 2014 07:57 goodkarma wrote: Whatever. I'll consolidate. If it's the death of us at least this game will finally be over. ##Unvote ##Vote: Obi We'll "consolidate" on you tomorrow. | ||
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GG I wouldn't have ever caught that either. | ||
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On August 13 2014 08:04 HaruRH wrote: I got pretty lucky. Marv switched off me Eden let me get into his pocket for 3/4 of the game and decide to lynch obi instead Nah, even if you died I think we had more chance of HuK winning Blizzcon 2014 than we getting both JAT and WoS. | ||
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On August 13 2014 08:05 Holyflare wrote: also nobody listened to obi and he was spot on, jat's night analysis was the worst thing i've ever seen :o! I should have trusted my 'fell asleep reading jat's filter' vibe :C | ||
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On August 13 2014 08:08 Holyflare wrote: i think it was very helpful that there were a lot of afk peripheral townies doing nothing  like seriously how was goodkarma town I don't even | ||
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On August 13 2014 08:09 Holyflare wrote: i gave you meta evidence about 100 times that you should have listened to hindsight is 20/20... | ||
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On August 13 2014 08:13 Eden1892 wrote: Disagree I was about 200 posts too active this game ~ Never Again My Friends ~ I gotta admit I'm not experienced enough to being able to townread obi and goodkarma over jat and wos. Especially wos. I think I should have given more weight to the 'fell asleep reading 20 pages of jat' and my criticism of his vote association post. It didn't help that I never saw obi or goodkarma post anything of real substance. Does cavalinho always shitpost like he does here? | ||
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On August 13 2014 08:42 Eden1892 wrote: Told me that. I remember double-taking and then going "nah whatever" ~ The Signs Were There, And We Ignored Them ~ hindsight is 20/20 | ||
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I think marv is like impossible to read i just end up praying hes townie so when he doesn something different I'm going to point it out. I didn't even say it was scummy just that it was odd those are too very different things. 
