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Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 16 2014 21:57 GMT
#164
/obs /replace (if needed)
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 24 2014 20:57 GMT
#991
GOOD NEWS FOLKS I have come to save this village from imminent fail. I never should have left Teemu and Nydus in charge. I will give mafia an hour to concede. At which point if our town surrender demands are not met I will begin referring to mafia as wolves to further degrade them and calling them out one by one.

I have linked the hero before me's beautiful filter for full analysis:

On June 21 2014 22:48 Solar424 wrote:
Hello. I am new to TL, and this is the first time playing Mafia online, bu I know the rules.



RIP Solar424 2014-2014.

Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 24 2014 21:03 GMT
#992
Just for reference I'm Banks aka tehpoofter I know Teemu, Nydus, Tamburini (who is a girl) from video mafia. I play on these forums and kinda encouraged the first two to start playing here as well Tamburini came on his own accord and I expect him to lurk himself into an early grave. I am still fairly new to forum mafia but have several games under my belt as both alignments and as several roles. If you're feeling extra villagery you can look up my previous games I've played. (was in one with Haru and Cats that is on going as well)

I need to catch up on the thread while I'm working today. I'm currently on page 21. I'll likely be updating on things that have transpired. I saw who died and was lynched. (I knew mystermeat from video mafia too) I like to be active and probably will have the longest filter in the game by the end of the day.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 24 2014 21:04 GMT
#994
On June 25 2014 05:41 Teemursu wrote:
Hey, GlowingBear, I read your long post and saw that you read Epishade as scummy. Could you read him a little bit? I'm curious about him and kind of skimming through his filter.


Hey Teemu or anyone that is currently around can you give me the 411 on whats been going on in the game aside from you guys lynching a VT day one.

This is for anyone chat/talk with me. I like to read and talk.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 24 2014 21:05 GMT
#995
On June 25 2014 06:04 Teemursu wrote:
Tehpoofter, you calling people wolves making me want to participate again.


This post is wolfy.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 24 2014 21:06 GMT
#997
On June 25 2014 06:05 Tehpoofter wrote:
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On June 25 2014 06:04 Teemursu wrote:
Tehpoofter, you calling people wolves making me want to participate again.


This post is wolfy.


JK You and every single person in the village better be participating its going to be a sad day if all the talk is me talking to me. I'll do it and still find the wolves but I'm going to have less fun.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 24 2014 21:09 GMT
#1001
On June 25 2014 06:05 Teemursu wrote:
Banks, if there's anything you want to talk about while you're going through the pages, let me know!


You may have said it before but who is your top wolf/village. (<<<<<<<<<<ANYONE ANSWER THIS QUESTION)
Please use the following format.

Top Town: Tehpoofter
Town: Mr.White, Colonel Mustard

Wolfy: Professor Plum, Mr. Green
OUTTED WOLF: The Candlestick


Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 24 2014 21:09 GMT
#1003
On June 25 2014 06:08 HaruRH wrote:
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On June 25 2014 06:06 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 25 2014 06:05 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 25 2014 06:04 Teemursu wrote:
Tehpoofter, you calling people wolves making me want to participate again.


This post is wolfy.


JK You and every single person in the village better be participating its going to be a sad day if all the talk is me talking to me. I'll do it and still find the wolves but I'm going to have less fun.


Finally it wont be me and teemu talking to each other during this time.

Ask any questions you want. But please don't ask me questions like 'summarise d1 for me' etc such open ended questions.



DO THIS:

On June 25 2014 06:09 Tehpoofter wrote:
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On June 25 2014 06:05 Teemursu wrote:
Banks, if there's anything you want to talk about while you're going through the pages, let me know!


You may have said it before but who is your top wolf/village. (<<<<<<<<<<ANYONE ANSWER THIS QUESTION)
Please use the following format.

Top Town: Tehpoofter
Town: Mr.White, Colonel Mustard

Wolfy: Professor Plum, Mr. Green
OUTTED WOLF: The Candlestick



Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 24 2014 21:10 GMT
#1004
afk 10 minutes boss wants me to work at work... the audacity!
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 24 2014 21:22 GMT
#1010
On June 25 2014 06:18 Teemursu wrote:
Banks, what is your read on Jabber?

I feel like I'm the only one town reading him.


I have no reads yet. Well except for the fact of who I checked if I was seer last night. I am trying to read up atm though.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 24 2014 21:23 GMT
#1011
On June 25 2014 06:16 HaruRH wrote:
Top Town: Templar, myself.
Town: Glowingbear, kotc, teemu
Fence : hobbitus
Scum: nydus, epi
Top scum: jabber, meatpudding
Probably scum for making me talk about wolf: mtam, poofter


Good distancing.

Also so you both agree meatpudding is a wolf you guys voting him I assume?
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 24 2014 21:25 GMT
#1013
On June 25 2014 06:16 HaruRH wrote:
Fuck bb codes


colors make the world pretty.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 24 2014 21:27 GMT
#1016
On June 25 2014 06:25 NydusHerMain wrote:
It's just as hard to read Tehpoofter in forum mafia as it is to read him in video mafia it appears -_- .... I'll have a large writeup in about 2 hours. I want to just make one big post with what I think about everyone in general



Don't make this one post your only contribution of the day thats hella wolfy. And I'm actually pretty easy to read. Just look at my past games and how they play out from both alignments. No hints though. Marv knows sadly but hes the only one.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 24 2014 21:28 GMT
#1017
On June 25 2014 06:26 Teemursu wrote:
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On June 25 2014 06:25 NydusHerMain wrote:
It's just as hard to read Tehpoofter in forum mafia as it is to read him in video mafia it appears -_- .... I'll have a large writeup in about 2 hours. I want to just make one big post with what I think about everyone in general

Great. More posts that I don't want to read.


If you don't like reading posts you're in the wrong place. That would be like playing video mafia without anyone talking. This is wolfy teemu, don't be lazy.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 24 2014 21:49 GMT
#1024
On June 25 2014 06:47 Teemursu wrote:
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On June 25 2014 06:37 NydusHerMain wrote:
On June 25 2014 06:28 Teemursu wrote:
Nydus, how about instead you talk with me, Haru and Banks about people and reads?


I said I'd give a writeup in a couple of hours... I'm just reading through everything right now and gathering my thoughts. A little hostile Teemu?

If you want to read it that way.

I'd just rather prefer having discussions with people instead of having to reading a couple of walls of posts and spend too much effort in analyzing them.

Just like in video mafia, y'know?

EDIT: having to read*


Walls of posts remind me of formal defenses.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 24 2014 21:50 GMT
#1025
On June 25 2014 06:49 Teemursu wrote:
Woops, I accidentally pressed edit instead of quote. I'm sorry. :S

Should probably go to bed.


ruh roh!!! Slam gunna be mad

I'm done with work for a moment so going to do some reading. I might be quoting stuff thats well out of date but I don't want to make one long wall of text so if you see something and go "jesus that was days ago' just ignore it its for my own notes.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 24 2014 21:59 GMT
#1027
On June 25 2014 06:55 Teemursu wrote:
Banks, could you imagine if video mafia's structure would be something like having one formal per person, and then people creating bandwagons based on those formals?

No discussion between formals. Limited questions/pressure on people.

I'm all down for some walls of posts, but I don't want those to be the only content people will provide.


Oh it would be awful. Thats why walls of posts and nothing is noramlly wolfy makes you look like you're doing something without doing it.


This post is formatted so weird but I liked the tone I'll be making sure you keep up what you describe in the 1st and 2nd spoiler: + Show Spoiler +
On June 22 2014 07:39 The_Templar wrote:
Responses to recent posts in this thread.







+ Show Spoiler +
On June 22 2014 01:24 NydusHerMain wrote:
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On June 22 2014 01:11 NydusHerMain wrote:
On June 22 2014 01:03 Hobbitus wrote:
On June 22 2014 00:41 HaruRH wrote:
On June 22 2014 00:14 Hobbitus wrote:
On June 22 2014 00:01 Teemursu wrote:
On June 21 2014 23:59 Hobbitus wrote:
On June 21 2014 23:51 HaruRH wrote:

Uh, do you really think this is a play?


No, that's my point. Meatpudding is saying that's a play, but I don't think so. IF it is though, I think it'd be more likely that one is town and one is scum than both being scum.


If you don't think it's a play, do you have a specific reasoning for that? Who do you think is the town/scum?


Well like I said, it seems very obvious/early for a play? One "hey I think you're towny" post does not a scumteam make. It's more like you're sniffing out reads to me.

That being said, if it is a play I'd say you're more likely than Templar to be scum just because you do have such polarized reactions to people.


Now, you're raising flags here. I don't want to spoil your mood but once the day goes into full gear, you will only see one-sided polarised arguments filled with tunnel vision of each other. Also, by calling out the 'play', and yet saying you think it's too obvious/early for plays you're contradicting yourself.



I know it's going to go into tunnel vision, but I don't think there is enough info out there for that to have happened so far, and yet you have a pretty strong opinion on most people already. To me that suggests a strategy of some kind. What that strategy is, I don't know.

To clarify, I don't think you and Templar were buddying up like meatpudding (not I) suggested. The idea of THAT play seems too obvious and early.


Reaction testing,
he does this in video,
neither town nor scum


I'm going to step out of haiku mode for this one because I made an error. I thought this was a conversation between Hobbitus and Teemu. I'm slightly sleep deprived and know Teemu outside of TL Mafia so feel inclined to defend him without having an actual reason to think that he's not scum.

Fair enough. Just make sure you're not confusing Teemu and Haru in the future, as that will get confusing really quick. I wonder why Haru jumped in so suddenly but I guess he could do this a lot, not sure yet.
I'm watching your posting pattern so that I make sure you're consistent on what you've stated here.



+ Show Spoiler +

On June 22 2014 01:39 NydusHerMain wrote:
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On June 21 2014 22:59 Teemursu wrote:
Yeah, I'm probably the most serious person you'll meet on this forum.

I actually kinda like this read. Feels like it's coming from a towny perspective. We -are- all new here and some are playing for the first time, and your read has that ring to it.


As someone who plays with you a lot in video mafia, I feel like this is not a typical read of yours. Seems a bit forced, and I hope that it's a reaction test. If it is, I'd like you to explain what you got from it.

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On June 21 2014 23:31 meatpudding wrote:
On June 21 2014 23:19 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 21 2014 23:09 meatpudding wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 21 2014 20:41 The_Templar wrote:
Hi, I'm The_Templar. I'm from the sc2 section. I am a mapmaker and I live report sometimes.
I play a lot of sc2 mafia (the mod) but it's filled with idiots and trolls so I decided I wanted a challenge here. I played a game in TL+ where I was a mafia goon but I don't think anyone else here has TL+ to compare it so w/e.
I know Epishade and MM1 because they are pretty good at blogs, as well as meatpudding (not that well though).
My name story is that I wanted a 'normal' name when I was 13 so I decided to pick a unit, but I didn't want to pick just one so I decided to be ambiguous with templar.
I… am not a star trek fan, but I'll bear the flavor as if it's normal flavor.

Good luck everyone!


Since you're wondering, it was a direct response to this post. I usually browse custom maps but don't often post there.

What was a direct response to that post?


This post was a response to Templar:

On June 21 2014 21:56 meatpudding wrote:
Yeah I don't post that much. I lurk more than I post. Maybe I should be called The_Lurker.


But I was just describing my general forum attitude. Since I signed up to play I intend to contribute of course.

Teemu was quick to call me out though, but he backed up Templar straight away. Two scum trying to blend in with town?

TheKingOfCats tries to lynch me as well, but I think he's town trying to prod me if I'm mafia.


I don't think scum align themselves so quickly. The read seems a bit weak but I don't necessarily think it comes from scum. Your read on TheKingOfCats seems to come from a towny perspective. Not sure what to think of you yet but leaning town.

Keep in mind that people could act differently in forum mafia. More on this later on, I explained it better then and I don't want to duplicate in this post. Personally, in the sc2 mod mafia, I watch people and jump out at them when they're unsure to trip them up, but this doesn't work in forum mafia (I tried in the TL+ game). So, I am going to watch and observe patterns, trying to figure out where everyone's going and what their plan is. I know this part of my post is a bit vague but hopefully I'll be able to show what I mean a bit better as the game goes on.

Now, in your reply to meatpudding, why is that -any- different than Teemu's post on me? Neither are particularly strong and assume a lot of stuff. Teemu assumes that we're all figuring things out as we go, and it's town to realize that, and meatpudding guesses the motivation behind someone pressuring him on day 1.

So what's the difference?



+ Show Spoiler +

On June 22 2014 01:49 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 23:52 Teemursu wrote:
On June 21 2014 23:31 meatpudding wrote:
On June 21 2014 23:19 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 21 2014 23:09 meatpudding wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 21 2014 20:41 The_Templar wrote:
Hi, I'm The_Templar. I'm from the sc2 section. I am a mapmaker and I live report sometimes.
I play a lot of sc2 mafia (the mod) but it's filled with idiots and trolls so I decided I wanted a challenge here. I played a game in TL+ where I was a mafia goon but I don't think anyone else here has TL+ to compare it so w/e.
I know Epishade and MM1 because they are pretty good at blogs, as well as meatpudding (not that well though).
My name story is that I wanted a 'normal' name when I was 13 so I decided to pick a unit, but I didn't want to pick just one so I decided to be ambiguous with templar.
I… am not a star trek fan, but I'll bear the flavor as if it's normal flavor.

Good luck everyone!


Since you're wondering, it was a direct response to this post. I usually browse custom maps but don't often post there.

What was a direct response to that post?


This post was a response to Templar:

On June 21 2014 21:56 meatpudding wrote:
Yeah I don't post that much. I lurk more than I post. Maybe I should be called The_Lurker.


But I was just describing my general forum attitude. Since I signed up to play I intend to contribute of course.

Teemu was quick to call me out though, but he backed up Templar straight away. Two scum trying to blend in with town?

TheKingOfCats tries to lynch me as well, but I think he's town trying to prod me if I'm mafia.


So I didn't specifically call you out. Apparently I got a reaction anyway, which is good, considering I just said I only pinged you out.

I don't feel like TheKingOfCats is trying to lynch you at all, and I'm not sure how I should read your defensiveness about that (new player/mafia being pushed). He did give a fence read on you though. Like, It's obvious that we should lynch people who don't contribute at all. He's someone I'm going to keep my eye on.

Please explain to me how i gave a fence read on meatpudding when i didn't give a read on him at all.

Hehe, you didn't at all, in fact you even said there was no read on him yet specifically (A null read according to some guy). You did say that (obviously) we should lynch meatpudding if he's not contributing. (Not sure why you even bother to say it, it's like a universal truth in these games).




+ Show Spoiler +

On June 22 2014 02:00 Teemursu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2014 01:49 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 21 2014 23:52 Teemursu wrote:
On June 21 2014 23:31 meatpudding wrote:
On June 21 2014 23:19 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 21 2014 23:09 meatpudding wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 21 2014 20:41 The_Templar wrote:
Hi, I'm The_Templar. I'm from the sc2 section. I am a mapmaker and I live report sometimes.
I play a lot of sc2 mafia (the mod) but it's filled with idiots and trolls so I decided I wanted a challenge here. I played a game in TL+ where I was a mafia goon but I don't think anyone else here has TL+ to compare it so w/e.
I know Epishade and MM1 because they are pretty good at blogs, as well as meatpudding (not that well though).
My name story is that I wanted a 'normal' name when I was 13 so I decided to pick a unit, but I didn't want to pick just one so I decided to be ambiguous with templar.
I… am not a star trek fan, but I'll bear the flavor as if it's normal flavor.

Good luck everyone!


Since you're wondering, it was a direct response to this post. I usually browse custom maps but don't often post there.

What was a direct response to that post?


This post was a response to Templar:

On June 21 2014 21:56 meatpudding wrote:
Yeah I don't post that much. I lurk more than I post. Maybe I should be called The_Lurker.


But I was just describing my general forum attitude. Since I signed up to play I intend to contribute of course.

Teemu was quick to call me out though, but he backed up Templar straight away. Two scum trying to blend in with town?

TheKingOfCats tries to lynch me as well, but I think he's town trying to prod me if I'm mafia.


So I didn't specifically call you out. Apparently I got a reaction anyway, which is good, considering I just said I only pinged you out.

I don't feel like TheKingOfCats is trying to lynch you at all, and I'm not sure how I should read your defensiveness about that (new player/mafia being pushed). He did give a fence read on you though. Like, It's obvious that we should lynch people who don't contribute at all. He's someone I'm going to keep my eye on.

Please explain to me how i gave a fence read on meatpudding when i didn't give a read on him at all.


Will do.

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It's too early for me to have any reads. Seeing as this is Meatpudding's first game i don't think his post was alignment indicative but if he doesn't contribute anything he'll be a good lynch regardless of his alignment.


Saying his post wasn't alignment indicative is still giving a read on him. You're evaluating his post and coming to a null conclusion. Also, I don't feel like you said much in general in the two lines of text that you wrote, since stating that people who don't contribute are good lynches is A) very obvious B) continuing to talk about Meatpudding in a null manner.

I would say it's not a read because you can't read into it.
Looking at it again, I do agree that Cat's post was a little too passive. Probably because he's not contributing much, as he said he wouldn't.



+ Show Spoiler +

Now, I see a few people saying that meatpudding is scummy. Not seeing it personally. He only has two significant posts:

On June 21 2014 23:31 meatpudding wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 23:19 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 21 2014 23:09 meatpudding wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 21 2014 20:41 The_Templar wrote:
Hi, I'm The_Templar. I'm from the sc2 section. I am a mapmaker and I live report sometimes.
I play a lot of sc2 mafia (the mod) but it's filled with idiots and trolls so I decided I wanted a challenge here. I played a game in TL+ where I was a mafia goon but I don't think anyone else here has TL+ to compare it so w/e.
I know Epishade and MM1 because they are pretty good at blogs, as well as meatpudding (not that well though).
My name story is that I wanted a 'normal' name when I was 13 so I decided to pick a unit, but I didn't want to pick just one so I decided to be ambiguous with templar.
I… am not a star trek fan, but I'll bear the flavor as if it's normal flavor.

Good luck everyone!


Since you're wondering, it was a direct response to this post. I usually browse custom maps but don't often post there.

What was a direct response to that post?


This post was a response to Templar:

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On June 21 2014 21:56 meatpudding wrote:
Yeah I don't post that much. I lurk more than I post. Maybe I should be called The_Lurker.


But I was just describing my general forum attitude. Since I signed up to play I intend to contribute of course.

Teemu was quick to call me out though, but he backed up Templar straight away. Two scum trying to blend in with town?

TheKingOfCats tries to lynch me as well, but I think he's town trying to prod me if I'm mafia.

On June 22 2014 00:14 meatpudding wrote:
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On June 21 2014 23:59 Hobbitus wrote:
On June 21 2014 23:51 HaruRH wrote:
On June 21 2014 23:44 Hobbitus wrote:
On June 21 2014 23:31 meatpudding wrote:

But I was just describing my general forum attitude. Since I signed up to play I intend to contribute of course.

Teemu was quick to call me out though, but he backed up Templar straight away. Two scum trying to blend in with town?

TheKingOfCats tries to lynch me as well, but I think he's town trying to prod me if I'm mafia.


That seems like too obvious a play to me? I could see one or the other being scum but not both.


Uh, do you really think this is a play?


No, that's my point. Meatpudding is saying that's a play, but I don't think so. IF it is though, I think it'd be more likely that one is town and one is scum than both being scum.


Would like to hear your thoughts as well. Do you have any reasoning to think that either would be scum?

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On June 21 2014 22:59 Teemursu wrote:
On June 21 2014 22:53 The_Templar wrote:
On June 21 2014 22:48 Teemursu wrote:
On June 21 2014 20:57 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 21 2014 20:48 HaruRH wrote:
On June 21 2014 20:41 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
Hello people, i have a stupid username.

I've been playing mafia on OMGUS (TL's evil twin that's locked in the basement and fed a bucket of fish heads every night) since last october. Between then and now i was somehow voted season 2 best town so if my play is terrible it's pretty much a certainty that i'm scum.


Yea your scum play is horrible, to the extent of nearly being modkilled. I hope you aren't going to afk :/

I should be more active this game because i actually know how to play town. I was quiet in my last game because i have no idea what i'm doing as scum.

How was i nearly modkilled in that game?


How DO you play town? Let's talk!

Do you read into tone perhaps? Who do you like/dislike?

There's this guy named Teemursu who's taking things really seriously at the beginning of day 1.

In all seriousness, no reads for me yet as we've just introduced each other. Meatpudding's joke seemed a bit… random, (trying to get things friendly between everyone perhaps?) but I don't think it really means anything.


Yeah, I'm probably the most serious person you'll meet on this forum.

I actually kinda like this read. Feels like it's coming from a towny perspective. We -are- all new here and some are playing for the first time, and your read has that ring to it.




This post specifically makes me wonder. If Teemu is scum then I would say Templar is as well. Yeah, it's an obvious play, but if it's not a play then is there any reason to suspect either of them?

All he's done is point out that Teemu agreed with my intentions (which apparently means we're both mafia), and that he was slightly pressured by Cats. This is in two posts.
The Cats part is pretty straightforward and I covered it earlier in this post, so I'll focus on the pointing out of Teemu quickly siding with me.

The first day is very slow compared to video mafia. Teemu is a video mafia player in general, which means he might be used to taking a side quickly and seeing how things develop (which they do at a blistering pace) (I don't know him very well, these are assumptions). I'm not particularly familiar with that side of mafia (although I play the sc2 mod, I really just lurk in the shadows and attack suspicious people), but I would assume that this is fairly normal. I did see a post that mentioned that Teemu's style is different than that, so I don't really know- perhaps he's trying to adapt but only being partially successful?

I'm not really suspicious of either meatpudding or Teemu yet. If someone that knows him well explains his style to me, I'll try to see if he's playing weirdly, but someone else will be a better judge of that.

This part of the post started with meatpudding and ended in Teemu. I think that the two are connected somehow, but this could be completely baseless.



+ Show Spoiler +

On June 22 2014 05:46 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2014 02:21 NydusHerMain wrote:
On June 22 2014 02:14 Teemursu wrote:
On June 22 2014 02:07 NydusHerMain wrote:
On June 22 2014 01:53 Teemursu wrote:
On June 22 2014 01:39 NydusHerMain wrote:

As someone who plays with you a lot in video mafia, I feel like this is not a typical read of yours. Seems a bit forced, and I hope that it's a reaction test. If it is, I'd like you to explain what you got from it.


Why does it seem forced? I'm not reaction testing him. I did get a towny feel from what he said in the brackets.



I don't think scum align themselves so quickly. The read seems a bit weak but I don't necessarily think it comes from scum. Your read on TheKingOfCats seems to come from a towny perspective. Not sure what to think of you yet but leaning town.


I don't really hear you giving town/scum perspective reads either. I didn't necessarily read his defensiveness caused by TheKingOfCats's null read to come from a towny perspective. Could you specifically explain that read?


When I play with you in video mafia, your town reads come from hearing people give several reads, and deciding on whether or not you like their logic. Seeing you give a quick town read for something very small that I personally don't see as being particularly alignment indicative is very weird from you. Perhaps your playstyle is different on forum mafia but if this were video mafia, you'd be quick to drop into my scum list.

Having played with me before, you should know that my town and scum reads come from small things that people do or say whereas your reads come from a bigger picture. Reading the posts again, I realize that TheKingOfCats didn't even give a null read, rather, he gave no read at all. Meatpudding's defensiveness actually does seem scummy. I am getting names mixed up and should read more carefully.


Personally, I feel like I'm expressing things here that I don't normally bother saying in video. I agree with you getting town reads from small things, but I rarely hear you explain reads by saying from which alignment/perspective players are telling their reads. In either case, we should evaluate each other based on this game alone. Discussing how our play might differ from different form of mafia is probably not going to give us much.

In any case, what's your read on TheKingOfCats?


My read on TheKingOfCats so far is that he is potential scum with MeatPudding.

On June 21 2014 23:17 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 21 2014 22:51 Teemursu wrote:
On June 21 2014 22:47 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 21 2014 22:46 Teemursu wrote:
On June 21 2014 21:56 meatpudding wrote:
Yeah I don't post that much. I lurk more than I post. Maybe I should be called The_Lurker.

I don't like this.

What don't you like about it?

The joke felt forced. Admitting to lurking and not at least saying you'll have more reads later on in the day rings scummy to me.

Anyway, I just wanted to ping someone out. Do you have any early reads?

It's too early for me to have any reads. Seeing as this is Meatpudding's first game i don't think his post was alignment indicative but if he doesn't contribute anything he'll be a good lynch regardless of his alignment.

On June 22 2014 01:49 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 21 2014 23:52 Teemursu wrote:
On June 21 2014 23:31 meatpudding wrote:
On June 21 2014 23:19 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 21 2014 23:09 meatpudding wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 21 2014 20:41 The_Templar wrote:
Hi, I'm The_Templar. I'm from the sc2 section. I am a mapmaker and I live report sometimes.
I play a lot of sc2 mafia (the mod) but it's filled with idiots and trolls so I decided I wanted a challenge here. I played a game in TL+ where I was a mafia goon but I don't think anyone else here has TL+ to compare it so w/e.
I know Epishade and MM1 because they are pretty good at blogs, as well as meatpudding (not that well though).
My name story is that I wanted a 'normal' name when I was 13 so I decided to pick a unit, but I didn't want to pick just one so I decided to be ambiguous with templar.
I… am not a star trek fan, but I'll bear the flavor as if it's normal flavor.

Good luck everyone!


Since you're wondering, it was a direct response to this post. I usually browse custom maps but don't often post there.

What was a direct response to that post?


This post was a response to Templar:

On June 21 2014 21:56 meatpudding wrote:
Yeah I don't post that much. I lurk more than I post. Maybe I should be called The_Lurker.


But I was just describing my general forum attitude. Since I signed up to play I intend to contribute of course.

Teemu was quick to call me out though, but he backed up Templar straight away. Two scum trying to blend in with town?

TheKingOfCats tries to lynch me as well, but I think he's town trying to prod me if I'm mafia.


So I didn't specifically call you out. Apparently I got a reaction anyway, which is good, considering I just said I only pinged you out.

I don't feel like TheKingOfCats is trying to lynch you at all, and I'm not sure how I should read your defensiveness about that (new player/mafia being pushed). He did give a fence read on you though. Like, It's obvious that we should lynch people who don't contribute at all. He's someone I'm going to keep my eye on.

Please explain to me how i gave a fence read on meatpudding when i didn't give a read on him at all.


I find it weird that TheKingOfCats' first reaction is to question Teemu on a supposed "null read" when I feel like MeatPudding saying that TheKingOfCats is trying to lynch him (pretty much saying that TheKingOfCats has a scum read on him) is a much scummier thing.

I didn't really see his post as scummy just poorly worded, plus people had already jumped on it so i didn't need to ask him myself.

It does look a bit odd, though. Meatpudding seems to have reacted, a lot, to your post. Definitely more than you were intending considering you were trying to be passive about it. Why? Well, he could be scum. I don't know his skill level but his responses actually made it look like (to the rest of the town) that you were pressuring him, and I guess that could translate to being mafia. Not sure.







My reads so far: (also TLDR)

-Suspecting Nydus because he's got multiple standards on whether seeing something from a towny perspective is ok.
-No idea on meatpudding, so Null read for now and I'll change it later. I think it will be resolved by the end of the day.
-Cats is more involved than I thought he would be. But he's not doing anything in particular. Asking for more than he has.
-Teemu agrees with me and "thinks I'm town", which I always appreciate, but he "thinks I'm town". He could be a town, or a mafia trying to make both of us or just me look mafia. Again, completely ambiguous and I'm not sure.

I have come to two conclusions:

-Cats is my best guess at this point for scum.
-I'm not nearly as good as I thought I was. This has already gotten too complicated for simple analysis.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 24 2014 22:05 GMT
#1031
On June 25 2014 07:01 Hobbitus wrote:
Around for a little while. Just so you know, I don't have a day off from work/social obligations from now until the end of this game, probably I'll post as much as I can, but there will be long stretches where I can't.

To be honest, I'm feeling kind of discouraged after last night; I put a lot of time into my earlier reads and I feel like it's getting me nowhere :\ If anyone has specific questions for me about D2, that would help. In the mean time I'm going to reread N1 events and post my thoughts.


Hobbitus this is the time to be encouraged!!! WE're behind but we have info we have a vote analysis to be done who went where and when. We also have a night kill whose reads can be analyzed why he was killed. So much possible speculation and raw data!! Plus I'm here with a fresh set of eyes and the knowledge of deaths to read everything knowing where the day went... makes things a bit easier to see I think.

As for now Hobbitus cna you do what Teemu/Haru did quickly:
On June 25 2014 06:09 Tehpoofter wrote:
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On June 25 2014 06:05 Teemursu wrote:
Banks, if there's anything you want to talk about while you're going through the pages, let me know!


You may have said it before but who is your top wolf/village. (<<<<<<<<<<ANYONE ANSWER THIS QUESTION)
Please use the following format.

Top Town: Tehpoofter
Town: Mr.White, Colonel Mustard

Wolfy: Professor Plum, Mr. Green
OUTTED WOLF: The Candlestick



Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 24 2014 22:08 GMT
#1032
On June 25 2014 07:04 Teemursu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2014 07:01 Hobbitus wrote:
Around for a little while. Just so you know, I don't have a day off from work/social obligations from now until the end of this game, probably I'll post as much as I can, but there will be long stretches where I can't.

To be honest, I'm feeling kind of discouraged after last night; I put a lot of time into my earlier reads and I feel like it's getting me nowhere :\ If anyone has specific questions for me about D2, that would help. In the mean time I'm going to reread N1 events and post my thoughts.


Hey, I kind of feel the same. Anything specific you want to talk about?

Let's start somewhere if you don't have anything.

What do you think of KotC after the flips?


Feels like you're buddying a village as a wolf teemu.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 24 2014 22:12 GMT
#1035
On June 25 2014 07:11 Teemursu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2014 07:08 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 25 2014 07:04 Teemursu wrote:
On June 25 2014 07:01 Hobbitus wrote:
Around for a little while. Just so you know, I don't have a day off from work/social obligations from now until the end of this game, probably I'll post as much as I can, but there will be long stretches where I can't.

To be honest, I'm feeling kind of discouraged after last night; I put a lot of time into my earlier reads and I feel like it's getting me nowhere :\ If anyone has specific questions for me about D2, that would help. In the mean time I'm going to reread N1 events and post my thoughts.


Hey, I kind of feel the same. Anything specific you want to talk about?

Let's start somewhere if you don't have anything.

What do you think of KotC after the flips?


Feels like you're buddying a village as a wolf teemu.


I'm just too lazy to read his filter right now.


I'm reading the whole thread but you can talk I like that part. Hobbit should answer me and you.
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