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seeing as kaller 2 probs wont start for a while
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On August 04 2014 10:01 Vivax wrote:Hi scum.
Fuck you!
But seriously I will be looking through the thread. Posting later.
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On August 04 2014 09:33 goodkarma wrote:
lol towncircles this early are pointless
Exactly what I think. Let's stop circlejerking.
I don't find anything particularly interesting in any of this discussion yet. It's 80% /towncirclejerk and 20% discussion on waveofshadow's meta, which isn't convincing at all. I also don't see how waveofshadow's <3333-throwing is indicative of any alignment. I feel it's more a stylistic choice, and the fact that it feels rehearsed is due to the fact that no normal person would say 'i love you' to every stranger on the internets.
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I don't know. No reads so far.
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Read haru's filter. It is certainly badly worded. But palmar's advice on mafia: the most boring person is mafia, is legit. Often ppl who say the worst things are town because they aren't actively trying to sound innocuous.
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Welp Eden aren't you President Eden on webdip or am I mistaken?
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On August 04 2014 11:44 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2014 11:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 04 2014 11:34 Vivax wrote:On August 04 2014 11:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Fuck I got town again. wat this doesnt make sense Why not? cause you dont enjoy playing scum and we know that.
nah it's probably because of Noir Mini Mafia 2, he's scarred for life now
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On August 04 2014 13:25 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2014 13:08 goodkarma wrote:On August 04 2014 13:01 HaruRH wrote:On August 04 2014 12:58 goodkarma wrote:On August 04 2014 12:39 HaruRH wrote:
I would say that in this game where scum potentially need 4+ mislynches to win the game, the only logical way is to act super townie and try to surf into later days off mislynches.
I'm willing to put my head on the table that there's a scum amongst hf/pooft/gk who are trying so hard to gain free towncreds ™ issued only by the harumint co. Last I checked this is the normalest of normal games. Why would scum have to play anything other than "standard?" Idk, if I was scum I would definitely sit back and think of how to play this game. So I would wanna check how these people who never posted yet on how they open up. Too stiff = skummer. So has anyone in the thread met this criterion of yours yet? Didn't you say Wave was stiff??? On August 04 2014 12:39 HaruRH wrote:
I would say that in this game where scum potentially need 4+ mislynches to win the game, the only logical way is to act super townie and try to surf into later days off mislynches.
I'm willing to put my head on the table that there's a scum amongst hf/pooft/gk who are trying so hard to gain free towncreds ™ issued only by the harumint co. Assuming you weren't just pulling names out of a hat, is there a particular reason for listing these three? You got a OMGUS they're attacking me therefore they're scum kinda thing going, or is there more to it than that? Care to elaborate? Note: I have literally 0 experience with purely normal games, so I don't know what to expect other than scum playing out of their minds. Which is what I'll focus on d1. Yes, that is why I brought out the stiff post argument. I want to see if this trend continues since it matches up with the 'scum playing out of their mind' read I have. Finding and noting the top towns currently also helps me formulate how scum could possibly act. It's better (in my opinion) to hide as top towns, so I won't be surprised if any of these 3 who are leading discussion/looking towny now would be scum.
Your logic baffles me. You're saying that because scum are so tryhard, they are more town than real town and so the towniest people are scum. You also allege that 'top towns should hide' which is astounding. The only power town has is their voice and vote, why would a *town* want to hide?
What about this simpler, probably correct argument:
'hf/pooft/gk are town because they are actively leading discussion and finding out who is scum and who is town. Scum are among the lurkers who don't want to get noticed'.
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I have come to the conclusion:
[r]Artanis is scum.[/r]
He has three pages in his filter yet reading through the whole thread I don't recall seeing him say anything interesting. By Palmar's rule he is scum.
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oops why doesn't [r] work
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so haru and eden stop arguing for a second
what's your view on Artanis[XP]?
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On August 04 2014 19:04 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2014 18:57 marvellosity wrote:
Poofter might be mafia according to my heuristic that I'm not telling any of you about right now.
I'd probably kill both Artanis and Poofter right now.
Wave hasn't showed me anything in particular that I want to lynch, other than what I mentioned. Most of the arguments levelled against him I've seen levelled against him on more than one occasion as town, they're just not very interesting to me yet. He's just null
##Vote: Artanis
gobbledy actually said the basic reason for Artanis to be mafia. Very low contributions so far despite posting some. I've not made proper reads yet and I've probably contributed more than he has. I also think given the preamble, Artanis would at least try to play a decent game as town. Let's see. gobblle hasn't mentioned artanis once. Show nested quote + I've not made proper reads yet and I've probably contributed more than he has. faulty logic, since artanis participated much earlier in the game and there was less to talk about.
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On August 04 2014 18:33 gobbledydook wrote:
I have come to the conclusion:
Artanis is scum.
He has three pages in his filter yet reading through the whole thread I don't recall seeing him say anything interesting. By Palmar's rule he is scum.
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Ten one-line useless posts from Artanis later...
nope, not convinced
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On August 04 2014 20:57 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2014 20:37 Holyflare wrote:Honestly though, Haru's filter is full of really really superficial stuff. "I think there's mafia in the people leading discussion" "i think this is how scum would be playing and this is how town should be playing" "poof/eden/hf came in with their words" On August 04 2014 19:35 HaruRH wrote:On August 04 2014 19:30 marvellosity wrote:
Haru, why is Poofter in that random list of 3 when he just randomly came in, spouted some random stuff, and left again? What made you feel like he's the other 2? Why did Poofter make it in that list as opposed to anyone else? The 3 of them provided content for discussion. Pooft with his random reads, gk with his attacks and hf with his reads too. They steered the discussion into a serious one and like I said, I would not flinch if any of them 3 turned scum. it just seems really surface level and not like paying attention to the words people are saying back to this please
went through haru's filter, not impressed.
First there's quite a lot of defending wave from meta-scumread, where his argument is very awkward. Then there's his weird scumread on hf/gk/eden, which I still don't think makes sense, why would you suggest they are acting pro-town therefore are scum? By his logic we should lynch all the most vocal towns first to catch the 'hidden mafia', oh wait, nope they were all town, mafia is laughing to the bank. So what he has said is awkward, misleading, and hasn't actually said much of note. He's on my scumreads right now, but behind Artanis.
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On August 04 2014 22:29 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2014 21:21 gobbledydook wrote:On August 04 2014 20:57 Holyflare wrote:On August 04 2014 20:37 Holyflare wrote:Honestly though, Haru's filter is full of really really superficial stuff. "I think there's mafia in the people leading discussion" "i think this is how scum would be playing and this is how town should be playing" "poof/eden/hf came in with their words" On August 04 2014 19:35 HaruRH wrote:On August 04 2014 19:30 marvellosity wrote:
Haru, why is Poofter in that random list of 3 when he just randomly came in, spouted some random stuff, and left again? What made you feel like he's the other 2? Why did Poofter make it in that list as opposed to anyone else? The 3 of them provided content for discussion. Pooft with his random reads, gk with his attacks and hf with his reads too. They steered the discussion into a serious one and like I said, I would not flinch if any of them 3 turned scum. it just seems really surface level and not like paying attention to the words people are saying back to this please went through haru's filter, not impressed. First there's quite a lot of defending wave from meta-scumread, where his argument is very awkward. Then there's his weird scumread on hf/gk/eden, which I still don't think makes sense, why would you suggest they are acting pro-town therefore are scum? By his logic we should lynch all the most vocal towns first to catch the 'hidden mafia', oh wait, nope they were all town, mafia is laughing to the bank. So what he has said is awkward, misleading, and hasn't actually said much of note. He's on my scumreads right now, but behind Artanis. First, let me say, your handle is extremely frustrating for me. Why gobbledydook instead of gobbleydgook? What is the significance of changing the g to a d? It's kind of driving me insane. Anyway, this is the post you are calling a "scumread on hf/gk/eden": Show nested quote +On August 04 2014 12:39 HaruRH wrote:
I would say that in this game where scum potentially need 4+ mislynches to win the game, the only logical way is to act super townie and try to surf into later days off mislynches.
I'm willing to put my head on the table that there's a scum amongst hf/pooft/gk who are trying so hard to gain free towncreds ™ issued only by the harumint co. Do you see the logic behind his thinking, even though you might disagree with it? Why are you treating it like it's such a big deal? It's not a scumread on any of those players, but rather a comment on the game setup/mafia theory.
OK, I can accept that he's just mistaken. It's pretty bad logic though, the optimum mafia play is to play super townie anyway, so how does this game being vanilla make any difference?
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On August 04 2014 22:41 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2014 22:36 gobbledydook wrote:On August 04 2014 22:29 kushm4sta wrote:On August 04 2014 21:21 gobbledydook wrote:On August 04 2014 20:57 Holyflare wrote:On August 04 2014 20:37 Holyflare wrote:Honestly though, Haru's filter is full of really really superficial stuff. "I think there's mafia in the people leading discussion" "i think this is how scum would be playing and this is how town should be playing" "poof/eden/hf came in with their words" On August 04 2014 19:35 HaruRH wrote:On August 04 2014 19:30 marvellosity wrote:
Haru, why is Poofter in that random list of 3 when he just randomly came in, spouted some random stuff, and left again? What made you feel like he's the other 2? Why did Poofter make it in that list as opposed to anyone else? The 3 of them provided content for discussion. Pooft with his random reads, gk with his attacks and hf with his reads too. They steered the discussion into a serious one and like I said, I would not flinch if any of them 3 turned scum. it just seems really surface level and not like paying attention to the words people are saying back to this please went through haru's filter, not impressed. First there's quite a lot of defending wave from meta-scumread, where his argument is very awkward. Then there's his weird scumread on hf/gk/eden, which I still don't think makes sense, why would you suggest they are acting pro-town therefore are scum? By his logic we should lynch all the most vocal towns first to catch the 'hidden mafia', oh wait, nope they were all town, mafia is laughing to the bank. So what he has said is awkward, misleading, and hasn't actually said much of note. He's on my scumreads right now, but behind Artanis. First, let me say, your handle is extremely frustrating for me. Why gobbledydook instead of gobbleydgook? What is the significance of changing the g to a d? It's kind of driving me insane. Anyway, this is the post you are calling a "scumread on hf/gk/eden": On August 04 2014 12:39 HaruRH wrote:
I would say that in this game where scum potentially need 4+ mislynches to win the game, the only logical way is to act super townie and try to surf into later days off mislynches.
I'm willing to put my head on the table that there's a scum amongst hf/pooft/gk who are trying so hard to gain free towncreds ™ issued only by the harumint co. Do you see the logic behind his thinking, even though you might disagree with it? Why are you treating it like it's such a big deal? It's not a scumread on any of those players, but rather a comment on the game setup/mafia theory. OK, I can accept that he's just mistaken. It's pretty bad logic though, the optimum mafia play is to play super townie anyway, so how does this game being vanilla make any difference? Are you sure you read my filter? The answer can be found there.
I read your filter and did not find a satisfactory answer. I think you are wrong.
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In Noir 2 obi had a similar style and he was town.
But I want obi to legit explain his marv read.
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On August 05 2014 07:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2014 07:52 Eden1892 wrote:On August 05 2014 07:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Who self-metas themselves as town?
Is that even a towny thing to do? Wtf? dude i thought that shit was fucking awesome lmao i love giving reads on myself if people are giving me shit the act itself is null, i would evaluate it on the strength of the self-read. ...which admittedly i feel like wasn't a great argument jat why is justanothertownie town, i feel like that guy who's looking at a box that says "THIS SIDE UP" with a hole on the other side of the box when i look at justanothertownie's name I hate it. Who metas themselves as town? The concept of concluding that you're town because of meta is bad because you can misinterpret your own meta to suit your own goals, and it falls under the category of trying too hard to be town because you don't think you can stand up on your own merits. I know I had a strong urge to meta myself when I rolled scum, and that's part of the reason I don't like that post. I'm in a rush, so I'll probably delve into it later, but I think it's mega scummy. Last time I caught HF doing this, he was mafia.
Since you appeared, can you tell me why marv is scum?
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Artanis finally showed up and did something useful. Poofter hasn't. All he really has done is scumread on the timing of marv's vote and then say he can't read him anyway. It's such a useless, trivial point that occupies lots of space.
##vote: tehpoofter
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