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HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
August 05 2014 15:41 GMT
#1224
On August 06 2014 00:40 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 00:39 HaruRH wrote:
On August 06 2014 00:38 marvellosity wrote:
On August 06 2014 00:37 HaruRH wrote:
On August 06 2014 00:34 marvellosity wrote:
On August 06 2014 00:33 HaruRH wrote:
On August 06 2014 00:30 marvellosity wrote:
On August 06 2014 00:27 HaruRH wrote:
On August 06 2014 00:26 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 05 2014 22:33 HaruRH wrote:
He is also voting on lurkers. From artanis the non-contributer to pooft the lurking read thrower. Sooner or later when pooft comes on, he will give some lame reads to vote on obi. Then onto the next lurker. No legit proper scumread.

This is what I dislike the most. You are calling him scum for scumreading your scumreads. Scumreadception.


I dont like how he hopped from artanis to pooft the moment he saw stuff from artanis. Doesn't feel like a pressure vote either. More like moving away from the responsibility of actually having to converse with his own scumread.

But it's precisely what you're advocating - if someone produces content then that's good, if they don;t produce concent then you are going to scumread them

so it makes perfect sense when artanis produces content that gobbledy would think to unvote him, given his case on him to begin with was that he had a 3 page filter with no content........




............

................................................



nothing you say makes any sense at all, ever.


...............
I'm blind. I did not see that until you pointed it out.
..........................

Buuuuuut my point on artanis still stands. He have weird reads.

'Reason no.100 why haru dont do list posts early on because he usually make these lame ass mistakes that he only find out later or until someone shows it to him explicitly'

So are you retracting on gobbledy? Would you rather kill Scumtanis?


Im retracting halfly on gobble due to how I still have beef with his eagerness to switch, like what vivax pointed out.

Scumtanis still have weird meta reads that he isn't explaining. Mostly telling me why he thought that way, not telling me what was the purpose.

Except at first he wasn't happy with Artanis' posts:
On August 04 2014 21:12 gobbledydook wrote:
Ten one-line useless posts from Artanis later...

nope, not convinced

only later was he happier
On August 05 2014 13:12 gobbledydook wrote:
Artanis finally showed up and did something useful. Poofter hasn't. All he really has done is scumread on the timing of marv's vote and then say he can't read him anyway. It's such a useless, trivial point that occupies lots of space.

##vote: tehpoofter



I can almost hear gobble whispering 'please post something useful artanis please post please please'
'YES YOU DID IT YOURE TOWN'

no you can't

you're literally just making that up to fit a narrative.


... AND NOW I CAN SCUMREAD POOFT!!!!'
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
August 05 2014 15:44 GMT
#1227
On August 06 2014 00:42 marvellosity wrote:
like i said, you're literally making shit up to fit your invented narrative.

it's just complete trash.


Waiting for artanis to post useful posts -> artanis does -> jumps to poofter, waiting for poofter to post useful posts

And the jump was due to 2 medium sized stuff that didn't make me feel that artanis was doing anything extra useful or townie either.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
August 05 2014 15:51 GMT
#1233
I admit that I dont want to be mislynched today, but I have posted pretty badly and have misunderstood some posts. Hopefully this 2nd mislynch (order was my first and was soul crushing) would serve as a reminder in future games why haru shouldn't post reads d1. Too late for any regret, I am already at l1 and would probably be mislynched in my sleep. As a note, please never force me to make reads d1. I am literally incapable of doing so. Goodnight all.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
August 05 2014 22:44 GMT
#1513
17 minutes left. I will feel terrible if I cannot do at least something productive with my ML.

##vote gobble
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
August 05 2014 22:55 GMT
#1557
Since im dead anyway

##Unvote
##Vote: Vivax
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
August 06 2014 10:56 GMT
#1747
On August 06 2014 19:48 Holyflare wrote:
I'm almost sure he said he was sleeping 4 hours before that or something too so unless he got 4 hours sleep and conveniently woke up at deadline i think he's probably lying


Hf you bad with numbers or something?
You questioned me about my posting times last time in another game too. I forgotten which game. But this is the exact same scenario lol

I hope 12am to 6am is really 4 hours! Would make my life easier.

The deadline was conveniently at when I woke up for classes everyday. Not my fault nor was it planned.

I was reading through the game, saw that I had 7 votes and was certainly about to die. So I just voted to anything to prevent another mislynch (at least not a d1, preferably at d2 like in order mafia so that I can brag I only get lynched d2 as town).

Certainly didn't expect me to survive. Nor did I expect riot to release the worlds schedule and it fitted with our holidays. 4 days of worlds. Today is a good day.

Catch me in my good mood, ask me anything. I saw the discussion about solving whether it was haruscum or gobblescum. Will input on that later.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
August 06 2014 10:59 GMT
#1749
On August 06 2014 19:52 Holyflare wrote:
Especially now it's like 8pm his time surely?


Gmt+8
Its 7pm now
Classes from 8am to 6pm. GCE is horrible.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
August 06 2014 11:04 GMT
#1751
On August 06 2014 20:02 Holyflare wrote:
Well whatever go catch up and post your thoughts so i can tunnel you some more

Cant wait for holyflare to drive in my tunnel
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
August 06 2014 11:19 GMT
#1757
On August 06 2014 05:11 Eden1892 wrote:
Alright, I made my decision. I mean it this time, seriously for real.

##UNVOTE: gobbledydook
##VOTE: HaruRH


Like I said earlier, go look at Haru's filter. His vote has been on Artanis forever, but he explicitly backed off of Artanis in favor of gobbledydook. Haru hasn't been pushing his lynch target much at all this game, no matter who it's been. He has no thread presence by choice, lots of posting but he's not going anywhere with it. Furthermore, he seemed far too resigned to being lynched compared to my read on his personality from our previous game together. Haru is a fighter, he's a prideful player - great traits to have IMO. He wouldn't go down so meekly if he were town. He would have raised holy hell at the fact that a wagon piled up on him as quickly as it did and he would have fought like hell to get out of it. I know he's not around now due to timezones, that's not on him, but he had plenty of time to push the lynch he wanted and he didn't, and he had plenty of time to fight his lynch and he didn't. Of the lynches that look viable at this point, this is easily the best.


I wanted to address this yesterday, but I was so down and busy trying to prove artanis is scummy that I didn't bother to.

Eden, last time I fought the lynch, you personally attacked me so hard I nearly wanted to quit the game. Only the parity cop claim changed your mind. I also don't want to appease you, I don't feel the need to. I just need to play a game where I am not typing in all caps to prove a point. I am a fighter yes, but I am no fighter in d1. D1 haru is crap. So crap that any reads I make d1 are usually scumread (read: detention mafia, newbie mafia lvi) and the only time I survived d1 posting a read and push was during the most recent mafia game.

Oh yes, I'll burn up when I have a conclusive read but people choose to push me instead. ^ this objective cannot be met if I literally cannot make reads d1.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
August 06 2014 11:22 GMT
#1759
Meh I dived eden because I thought I remembered eden saying that gobble played differently in his only town game in dip mafia, and I wanted to ask what made him feel that gobble is posting like a town with his arguments

But his filter is undiveable and I am probably wrong, so screw it
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
August 06 2014 11:29 GMT
#1764
On August 05 2014 13:42 goodkarma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2014 13:36 gobbledydook wrote:
On August 05 2014 13:27 goodkarma wrote:
On August 05 2014 13:22 gobbledydook wrote:
On August 05 2014 13:19 goodkarma wrote:
On August 05 2014 13:12 gobbledydook wrote:
Artanis finally showed up and did something useful. Poofter hasn't. All he really has done is scumread on the timing of marv's vote and then say he can't read him anyway. It's such a useless, trivial point that occupies lots of space.

##vote: tehpoofter


Is this all you care to comment on after over a day of absence?


AUS Timezone OP, also I have other things to do

Is there anything specific you want me to comment on?


Wave's case on Haru, Obi, Artansis, the meaning of life. Take your pick. There must have been something posted of interest to you between yesterday and today.



1) Haru: It's a good case, I had raised some of my objections about Haru before, but HF persuaded me that just because I don't agree with him doesn't mean he is scum. I still don't like any of his posts, the logic just isn't there. I could be persuaded to vote Haru.

2) Obi: Null read atm, he's played similarly to when I saw him in Noir Mini 2, and he was town in that game. He hasn't particularly stood out as towny though so that's why I have a null read.

3) Artanis: I said before, I think he's come out with good discussion and so I unvoted him.

4) The meaning of life: 42.


Well at least you got the meaning of life part right.

Was kinda hoping you'd have more to say about Wave seeing as how I was referring to his case. And also I find it odd that you don't seem to have much of a direction in mind as to where to spend your time in thread. Don't get me wrong I like the poofter vote but your posting shouldn't begin and end with one vote post.



Btw I felt that the interaction of gk with gobble is weird.

Gk is almost like asking gobble to produce content, but is happy with gobble's null answers, while isnt happy with poofter posting conclusive reads without much substantiation. Why?
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
August 06 2014 11:31 GMT
#1765
On August 06 2014 20:29 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2014 13:42 goodkarma wrote:
On August 05 2014 13:36 gobbledydook wrote:
On August 05 2014 13:27 goodkarma wrote:
On August 05 2014 13:22 gobbledydook wrote:
On August 05 2014 13:19 goodkarma wrote:
On August 05 2014 13:12 gobbledydook wrote:
Artanis finally showed up and did something useful. Poofter hasn't. All he really has done is scumread on the timing of marv's vote and then say he can't read him anyway. It's such a useless, trivial point that occupies lots of space.

##vote: tehpoofter


Is this all you care to comment on after over a day of absence?


AUS Timezone OP, also I have other things to do

Is there anything specific you want me to comment on?


Wave's case on Haru, Obi, Artansis, the meaning of life. Take your pick. There must have been something posted of interest to you between yesterday and today.



1) Haru: It's a good case, I had raised some of my objections about Haru before, but HF persuaded me that just because I don't agree with him doesn't mean he is scum. I still don't like any of his posts, the logic just isn't there. I could be persuaded to vote Haru.

2) Obi: Null read atm, he's played similarly to when I saw him in Noir Mini 2, and he was town in that game. He hasn't particularly stood out as towny though so that's why I have a null read.

3) Artanis: I said before, I think he's come out with good discussion and so I unvoted him.

4) The meaning of life: 42.


Well at least you got the meaning of life part right.

Was kinda hoping you'd have more to say about Wave seeing as how I was referring to his case. And also I find it odd that you don't seem to have much of a direction in mind as to where to spend your time in thread. Don't get me wrong I like the poofter vote but your posting shouldn't begin and end with one vote post.



Btw I felt that the interaction of gk with gobble is weird.

Gk is almost like asking gobble to produce content, but is happy with gobble's null answers, while isnt happy with poofter posting conclusive reads without much substantiation. Why?


Was it that gk only wanted to see substantiation? But why? To help them have a more content based filter? I cannot understand gk's intentions here. Ill keep this in mind for now.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
August 06 2014 11:32 GMT
#1766
On August 06 2014 20:24 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 20:19 HaruRH wrote:
On August 06 2014 05:11 Eden1892 wrote:
Alright, I made my decision. I mean it this time, seriously for real.

##UNVOTE: gobbledydook
##VOTE: HaruRH


Like I said earlier, go look at Haru's filter. His vote has been on Artanis forever, but he explicitly backed off of Artanis in favor of gobbledydook. Haru hasn't been pushing his lynch target much at all this game, no matter who it's been. He has no thread presence by choice, lots of posting but he's not going anywhere with it. Furthermore, he seemed far too resigned to being lynched compared to my read on his personality from our previous game together. Haru is a fighter, he's a prideful player - great traits to have IMO. He wouldn't go down so meekly if he were town. He would have raised holy hell at the fact that a wagon piled up on him as quickly as it did and he would have fought like hell to get out of it. I know he's not around now due to timezones, that's not on him, but he had plenty of time to push the lynch he wanted and he didn't, and he had plenty of time to fight his lynch and he didn't. Of the lynches that look viable at this point, this is easily the best.


I wanted to address this yesterday, but I was so down and busy trying to prove artanis is scummy that I didn't bother to.

Eden, last time I fought the lynch, you personally attacked me so hard I nearly wanted to quit the game. Only the parity cop claim changed your mind. I also don't want to appease you, I don't feel the need to. I just need to play a game where I am not typing in all caps to prove a point. I am a fighter yes, but I am no fighter in d1. D1 haru is crap. So crap that any reads I make d1 are usually scumread (read: detention mafia, newbie mafia lvi) and the only time I survived d1 posting a read and push was during the most recent mafia game.

Oh yes, I'll burn up when I have a conclusive read but people choose to push me instead. ^ this objective cannot be met if I literally cannot make reads d1.

I have trouble buying this attitude as townHaru.


Explain.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
August 06 2014 11:42 GMT
#1770
On August 06 2014 20:35 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 20:32 HaruRH wrote:
On August 06 2014 20:24 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 06 2014 20:19 HaruRH wrote:
On August 06 2014 05:11 Eden1892 wrote:
Alright, I made my decision. I mean it this time, seriously for real.

##UNVOTE: gobbledydook
##VOTE: HaruRH


Like I said earlier, go look at Haru's filter. His vote has been on Artanis forever, but he explicitly backed off of Artanis in favor of gobbledydook. Haru hasn't been pushing his lynch target much at all this game, no matter who it's been. He has no thread presence by choice, lots of posting but he's not going anywhere with it. Furthermore, he seemed far too resigned to being lynched compared to my read on his personality from our previous game together. Haru is a fighter, he's a prideful player - great traits to have IMO. He wouldn't go down so meekly if he were town. He would have raised holy hell at the fact that a wagon piled up on him as quickly as it did and he would have fought like hell to get out of it. I know he's not around now due to timezones, that's not on him, but he had plenty of time to push the lynch he wanted and he didn't, and he had plenty of time to fight his lynch and he didn't. Of the lynches that look viable at this point, this is easily the best.


I wanted to address this yesterday, but I was so down and busy trying to prove artanis is scummy that I didn't bother to.

Eden, last time I fought the lynch, you personally attacked me so hard I nearly wanted to quit the game. Only the parity cop claim changed your mind. I also don't want to appease you, I don't feel the need to. I just need to play a game where I am not typing in all caps to prove a point. I am a fighter yes, but I am no fighter in d1. D1 haru is crap. So crap that any reads I make d1 are usually scumread (read: detention mafia, newbie mafia lvi) and the only time I survived d1 posting a read and push was during the most recent mafia game.

Oh yes, I'll burn up when I have a conclusive read but people choose to push me instead. ^ this objective cannot be met if I literally cannot make reads d1.

I have trouble buying this attitude as townHaru.


Explain.

I just don't think you are the type of player who plays himself down as town after your performance in Order. I really don't.


Except that I was d1 scumread in 5/6 of my games.
Make it 6/7.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
August 06 2014 11:53 GMT
#1776
Things got really interesting after I was at 7 votes:

On August 06 2014 06:44 LoneMeow wrote:
Counting of votes:

Artanis[Xp] (1): gobbledydook, marvellosity, marvellosity, marvellosity, Eden1892, HaruRH, kushm4sta, Eden1892, Holyflare
gobbledydook (2): Vivax, Eden1892, Tehpoofter, kushm4sta
Eden1892 (0): Eden1892
Vivax (2): Eden1892, marvellosity, goodkarma, Holyflare
Tehpoofter (0): Holyflare, goodkarma, gobbledydook
ObiWanShinobi (0): Eden1892, Holyflare, Eden1892, Eden1892
HaruRH (7): gobbledydook, WaveofShadow, Artanis[Xp], marvellosity, gobbledydook, Eden1892, justanothertownie, Eden1892, marvellosity, Eden1892, Tehpoofter
WaveofShadow (0): ObiWanShinobi, kushm4sta, Eden1892, Eden1892, Eden1892
marvellosity (0): Artanis[Xp], Eden1892, Vivax, HaruRH, WaveofShadow, ObiWanShinobi

Not voting (1): ObiWanShinobi

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.
Deadline is Tuesday, Aug 05 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ).


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deleted because its too big yo


during this time, I jumped onto gobble, who was (in my opinion) gaining traction to be the next lynch. All it needed was a few more votes.

On August 06 2014 07:55 iamperfection wrote:
Counting of votes:

Artanis[Xp] (0): gobbledydook, marvellosity, marvellosity, marvellosity, Eden1892, HaruRH, kushm4sta, Eden1892, Holyflare
gobbledydook (4): Vivax, Eden1892, Tehpoofter, kushm4sta, ObiWanShinobi, HaruRH
Eden1892 (0): Eden1892
Vivax (5): Eden1892, marvellosity, goodkarma, Holyflare, marvellosity, justanothertownie, Artanis
Tehpoofter (0): Holyflare, goodkarma, gobbledydook
ObiWanShinobi (0): Eden1892, Holyflare, Eden1892, Eden1892
HaruRH (4): gobbledydook, WaveofShadow, Artanis[Xp], marvellosity, gobbledydook, Eden1892, justanothertownie, Eden1892, marvellosity, Eden1892, Tehpoofter
WaveofShadow (0): ObiWanShinobi, kushm4sta, Eden1892, Eden1892, Eden1892
marvellosity (0): Artanis[Xp], Eden1892, Vivax, HaruRH, WaveofShadow, ObiWanShinobi

Not voting (0):
With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.
Deadline is Tuesday, Aug 05 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ).


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still too big. stop opening spoiler quotes you lashwhole


At this point, Artanis and JAT followed marv to lynch vivax instead. They had already shown their intent to jump back to me if this fails. I have also joined in, making it 6 votes.

On August 06 2014 07:06 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 07:01 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 06 2014 07:00 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Well my vote doesn't matter anymore, and I don't even feel like this is a great lynch.

Do you have a better one?


I feel like gd would better. I took a look at what kush was saying and saw merit to it and how GD operates as scum.

I feel like this Haru lynch is just us lynching Haru for being Haru. I know he said some idiotic things but idk, it feels like he's playing his towngame like he always does.


Obi have also shown that he doesn't want to vote me. So this following quote doesn't follow his ideals:

On August 06 2014 07:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm not flipping. No more flipping for me.

We need to pick between Haru/GD and I refuse to consider Vivax until after lynch. Seriously, bandwagon flips are 100% guaranteed to kill town so we need to stop this switch right goddamn now.


On August 06 2014 12:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 12:51 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 06 2014 06:00 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Yeah I don't really want to waste time doing that right now. I'll do it after lynch.

I need a minute to think.

Cav, what was this in reference to?

Also, you do a lot of complaining around lynch time.
On August 06 2014 06:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 06 2014 06:11 Holyflare wrote:
Really vivax is looking a lot like the vivax from when i smurfed and he was defending someone that others thought was scummy. He really didn't comment on haru at all and still attacks haru's aggressors instead. He is also stuck in his time warp of lies making reads on things THAT DON'T EXIST


At this point it's borderline impossible for Vivax to even be lynched, so you should probably decide between gd and haru instead.

I'm kind of leaning towards gd at this point but I'm not sure.

On August 06 2014 06:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I remember Haru had me as scum for similar reasons in Titanic.

Like I know his day 1 shit is incredibly asinine sometimes and it's the only thing stopping me from hammering him right now.

On August 06 2014 07:00 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Well my vote doesn't matter anymore, and I don't even feel like this is a great lynch.

On August 06 2014 07:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 06 2014 07:13 Holyflare wrote:
I'm not at a computer to make a case and we definitely can't get 7 but I'm feeling really fucking paranoid of haru lynch


As am I.

I just looked back over GD's filter and I'm back to not remembering why I scumread him.

I think today is just a miss in general.


You know who complains about lynch targets without ever offering a proper opinion or direction?


Marv was asking me to filter dive Vivax, and I was like, "nah, the lynch should be between these two people and Vivax isn't getting lynched today."

And then he got lynched.

Also, I offered some direction during lynch:

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I'm not flipping. No more flipping for me.

We need to pick between Haru/GD and I refuse to consider Vivax until after lynch. Seriously, bandwagon flips are 100% guaranteed to kill town so we need to stop this switch right goddamn now.


Just because I had problems picking between the first two targets doesn't mean I didn't have direction. I just couldn't make up my mind, and then town went and just fucking flipped because they thought Vivax was being an asshole.


Neither does this from obi follows his original stance of only wanting to lynch into me/gobble.

Also, it is apparent that they would come back to my wagon when they detect that the vivax wagon would fail. So why would obi, whose stance is to not vote me, decide to limit the wagon on me/gd, insisting on not changing wagons, then decide to change to vivax after all ( even though there was no risk of no-lynch since I am going to die anyway), then rage about town being bad for lynching vivax?

On August 06 2014 13:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Because I was certain that a mass voteswitch would be unfeasible.

Apparently it actually happened and he died. I warned everyone not to but I couldn't override anything. Blegh.


This explanation does nothing.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
August 06 2014 11:56 GMT
#1777
On August 06 2014 13:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Marv is basically 'we' and should be considered 'we' because everyone followed him because fuck it why not.

Also, if you honestly believe I orchestrated a mass voteswitch to Vivax at the last second, despite the fact that I was telling everyone not to, then lol. I seriously wish I was capable of that as mafia.


Is obi using the fact that he didn't like the lynch as an excuse to forgo all his responsibility for being the most hesitant player to switch?
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
August 06 2014 11:57 GMT
#1778
We need to pick between Haru/GD and I refuse to consider Vivax until after lynch. Seriously, bandwagon flips are 100% guaranteed to kill town so we need to stop this switch right goddamn now.

TMI?
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
August 06 2014 12:06 GMT
#1781
On August 06 2014 20:58 Eden1892 wrote:
Haru, I know the main reason you had such a visceral reaction to my push on you last time we crossed swords was because I made it personal, but I got the impression well before I ever did that that you were a fairly prideful player. That's a good thing in my book, people who take pride in their performance and their work tend to bust their asses to try to win and I love being around people who do that.

There's just a fire missing in your play that was burning bright and hot last game. Anyone else that was in that game can probably back me up on it. You played pretty tough and were unafraid to challenge people on anything. Hell, our first interaction in that game, you called me out for trying to seed your ML after Slamroot. Never mind whether that was true or not; the point is that you were completely fearless in your assertions. In retrospect, it was pretty obvious that you were town, and I should have read it much earlier.

Your play's just really different here. There's a meek deference when you're interacting with most people. You've been getting scumread by a lot of people, and while you are doing something to resist it, the fire's just not there like it was before. Something's just off. My first thought on it is that part of your passionate defenses of yourself when you're town come from the ironclad knowledge that you're town, and the added fervor that comes from knowing you're right; and thus that the fire's missing in your defense this time because you're mafia, you know you are, and you can't generate the same righteous indignation that you have when you're innocent and accused of being guilty.

But that's not the only explanation that fits, and there are townsided explanations that fit. So, before I try to get you lynched, if there's a townsided explanation for this, please tell me what's up. You can say that you don't have to appease me and don't want to deal with it, and that's fine, but you know from our other game that I can get people to support a lynch I want, and I think you and I both would be better off just working with me on this question instead of trying to play hardball with this talk of appeasement. Okay?


if you noticed, when we cross-swords, it was very deep into d1. (50 pages deep in fact)

On July 12 2014 19:21 HaruRH wrote:
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On July 12 2014 19:14 Eden1892 wrote:
Unflipped associations time!

If you're right about Shiny Ursaring being mafia, marv, then that explains why there's no counterwagon: the other mafia is busing.

Slamroot set itself up to be bused when it got caught -- notice how both members completely drop any effort to defend themselves from pressing questions as soon as they're brought up. If we're being honest, sqrt's post that I called him out on which started the avalanche of suspicion on their slot wasn't this damning or obvious. It snowballed because Slamroot didn't bother responding to any accusations whatsoever. I would acknowledge that giving up straight away is probably suboptimal play for the mafia because I don't think it would have been very difficult to defuse suspicions about them; however, even if suboptimal, it still conceivably advances scum wincon by allowing the partner to bus for credit. As town behavior OTOH it's not merely suboptimal, it's completely nonsensical. Giving up, spamming the thread and getting mislynched by a case that could reasonably be refuted is literally 100% negative utility for town.

So of course there isn't gonna be a counterwagon, and this shouldn't discourage anyone from voting for Slamroot today. There's not gonna be a counterwagon because Slamroot's partner is going to bus because the current situation is unsalvageable. What we want to look for is a slot that's acknowledging Slamroot's guilt and probably even voting for them, but whose reasoning isn't sound and whose primary claimed suspicions are elsewhere (and relatively unexplained).

So far Shiny Ursaring fits the bill there and I'd be happy to lynch them tomorrow, but I think there's just no way Slamroot is town.


WRONG WRONG WRONG

Theres no counter wagon because NOBODY SET IT UP YET

Its not too late to salvage the situation dude, if I was scum and slam is scum now, I can easily salvage this hole they jumped into easily

Rather than thinking if we were bussing, think if slam is scum in the first place

Glowingbear doesn't fit the bill at all. You're just looking for another town to steamroll through d2. So I understand from your intent that you want to -> lynch slam d1 into lynching us d2. Note that only scum would set up a d2 lynch before a d1.

your actions have been recorded.


This part was the start. I literally townread slamroot very hard, so your reads on how slamroot was mafia and how we were bussing him made me very pissed. If you tried to lynch kush along with me this game, I would definitely rage too btw.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
August 06 2014 14:30 GMT
#1800
On August 06 2014 23:19 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
No, I don't get it.

I had trouble voting because I wasn't sure if I wanted Haru or GD, but I wanted to keep everyone from doing a mass voteswitch and in the end I was forced to switch to someone I wasn't even considering.

And you always have a problem with my day 1, so I don't put any stock into what you're saying about it.


Point 1: You said I played like how I normally do as town. That means you townread me. That means you should be on GD.

Point 2:You was never forced to switch. They were ready to lynch me again once the time is near and nobody switches. Your hesitation + now your complains of being forced to switch don't match.

Point 3:There will not be a nolynch on d1 because they were ready to jump back to me fyi.

It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
August 06 2014 14:34 GMT
#1802
btw for you obi

On August 06 2014 07:52 justanothertownie wrote:
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On August 06 2014 07:51 Holyflare wrote:
Boom let's do it

Ok, I am down but be ready to switch back if we don't get enough people.

On August 06 2014 07:55 marvellosity wrote:
swap back to haru in a few minutes if this isn't gonna happen.

On August 06 2014 07:55 justanothertownie wrote:
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On August 06 2014 07:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm really worried this'll head on to a no lynch.

Just be ready to switch to Haru I will be too.


So you were never forced.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
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