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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-03 22:06:50
June 03 2014 22:06 GMT
#1881
Next time I'm running the setup I'm planning to put 4 players in each cell, with mafia having a forced night kill before every cell goes up for lynch. Should increase town numbers without being a onesided buff and allow for more strategy.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 03 2014 22:06 GMT
#1882
On June 04 2014 07:05 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 07:05 slOosh wrote:
Thanks for hosting the game.

I think it is a very interesting setup, but I guess it had the side effect of being unable to punish inactives / lurkers, leading to the game grinding to a halt past the first two cycles.

Last game had the same problem. Something is wrong with this setup.

Maybe if you could vote for which cell goes up next every day, mayor picks first cell?
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
June 03 2014 22:06 GMT
#1883
poofter were actually unable to post or were you just being a scumbag?

/spit
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 03 2014 22:06 GMT
#1884
Like there is some not-obvious problem with the setup that makes the games just sort of flush out really fast.

I would suggest just randomizing the order and skipping mayor day next, get people scumhunting straight away.
Computer says mafia
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
June 03 2014 22:06 GMT
#1885
I wish i would have played better, but i dont think i did too bad for my first forum game as mafia.

Today just super sucked for me:/
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 03 2014 22:07 GMT
#1886
On June 04 2014 07:06 layabout wrote:
poofter were actually unable to post or were you just being a scumbag?

/spit

when people play like mafia, you lynch them

it's kinda the goal of the game
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
June 03 2014 22:07 GMT
#1887
What if the mayor determined the next cell to vote on each day? (if no choice is given, RNG)
I haven't played this setup so I'm not sure about broader strategy implications.
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
June 03 2014 22:07 GMT
#1888
good points:
i got slOosh
i was starting to get on nb


bad points:
literally everything else
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 03 2014 22:07 GMT
#1889
Like in a normal mafia game, people give up on the game usually about 3 cycles in, or activity drops significantly by then. So maybe the trick is not to "waste" an active cycle on the mayor stuff.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 03 2014 22:08 GMT
#1890
On June 04 2014 07:07 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 07:06 layabout wrote:
poofter were actually unable to post or were you just being a scumbag?

/spit

when people play like mafia, you lynch them

it's kinda the goal of the game

Yeah nothing against poofter. He did exactly what he had to do to win.
Computer says mafia
mtamburini
Profile Joined February 2014
Canada506 Posts
June 03 2014 22:08 GMT
#1891
Rng 3 of them caught the 4th never saw the 5th

Maybe longer days of 72 hours
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 03 2014 22:08 GMT
#1892
On June 04 2014 07:06 27ninjabunnies wrote:
I wish i would have played better, but i dont think i did too bad for my first forum game as mafia.

Today just super sucked for me:/


Your day 1 was super shaky, after that you picked up.
Computer says mafia
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
June 03 2014 22:08 GMT
#1893
On June 04 2014 07:06 Palmar wrote:
Like there is some not-obvious problem with the setup that makes the games just sort of flush out really fast.

I would suggest just randomizing the order and skipping mayor day next, get people scumhunting straight away.

The problem I have with that is that it puts too many things up to chance outside of players' control. I like having a game in which the players decide the outcome as much as possible. Unfortunately that can't count for inactivity and all that, but it feels like something that increases the potential skill ceiling to me.
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-03 22:09:03
June 03 2014 22:08 GMT
#1894
On June 04 2014 07:07 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 07:06 layabout wrote:
poofter were actually unable to post or were you just being a scumbag?

/spit

when people play like mafia, you lynch them

it's kinda the goal of the game

you can't do that when 9/15 people are playing like mafia besides doing that is unsportmanslike and shitty

Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 03 2014 22:09 GMT
#1895
On June 04 2014 07:08 mtamburini wrote:
Rng 3 of them caught the 4th never saw the 5th

Maybe longer days of 72 hours

Nah, this kills activity even more.
Computer says mafia
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 03 2014 22:09 GMT
#1896
On June 04 2014 07:05 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 07:04 marvellosity wrote:
On June 04 2014 07:03 Palmar wrote:
On June 04 2014 07:02 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 04 2014 07:00 marvellosity wrote:
town that was shit.

how you let poofter get away with that is a fucking mystery. awful.


Coasting off teh day 1 town read marv... just coasting.

Coasting off complete lack of effort by VE.

Mafia wins when townies refuse to fight for not getting lynched. It's a true story.

what did poof do for the last 2 cycles straight other than post about 3 times at deadline???

Nothing, I even pointed it out.

But I always do this. I expect poofter to be shit and I expect VE to not be shit.



I have to change my mafia meta because basically if I'm afk for like a whole day i'm instantly mafia as town I just don't do that.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 03 2014 22:09 GMT
#1897
On June 04 2014 07:08 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 07:07 marvellosity wrote:
On June 04 2014 07:06 layabout wrote:
poofter were actually unable to post or were you just being a scumbag?

/spit

when people play like mafia, you lynch them

it's kinda the goal of the game

you can't do that when 9/15 people are playing like mafia besides doing that is unsportmanslike and shitty


playing like mafia is not unsportsmanlike, it's playing like mafia

that's why you have a vote
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 03 2014 22:10 GMT
#1898
On June 04 2014 07:06 layabout wrote:
poofter were actually unable to post or were you just being a scumbag?

/spit


I post mostly from work and I was off the past 4 days so I was doing other things like with family and such. If I'm town I usually just find time to post either right before bed or get up a bit early or something but as mafia I value sleep more. Its bad and sorry its not an honorable victory
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 03 2014 22:11 GMT
#1899
On June 04 2014 07:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 07:06 Palmar wrote:
Like there is some not-obvious problem with the setup that makes the games just sort of flush out really fast.

I would suggest just randomizing the order and skipping mayor day next, get people scumhunting straight away.

The problem I have with that is that it puts too many things up to chance outside of players' control. I like having a game in which the players decide the outcome as much as possible. Unfortunately that can't count for inactivity and all that, but it feels like something that increases the potential skill ceiling to me.

Yeah it does, it's a cool mechanic, but sometimes cool mechanics get in the way of the game.

maybe RNG the first cell and the 3 people in that all nominate a next cell to go up, the person who gets the least votes ends up deciding the next cell?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 03 2014 22:11 GMT
#1900
Don't listen to layabout poofter. It's on town for not punishing your play.
Computer says mafia
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