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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On April 28 2014 13:12 VisceraEyes wrote: But that's not true - you have to factor in that he could have /really/ fucked over town by denying them a lynch entirely. You HAVE to factor that in because he DID not do that and he COULD have done that. And you KNOW that he's a player that would have known that. It is true. Saying someone must be Town because they didn't do something that scum might have done doesn't hold up logically. If he denies the Town a lynch, he dies and the person being lynched just gets shot the next day with all the day KP we have. In this format, denying a lynch early in the game isn't going to "really over the town". | ||
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VisceraEyes
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Ace
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
havent had enough to read things too in depth. but heres a few things that stand out, geript is town as far as I can tell, or hes playing hard into his own meta. I dont think palmer is scum because a) i am all too familiar with the if im going down towns coming with me mentality, (not specifically in mafia but other traitor games like bsg) its a shit scum strat because threatening people in a game with virtually no stakes is a bad idea, you cant cowe a town with this many great players and I dont think scum plam would try it. seems like a rage play. As scum Hes better off using his time to influence town, because he will never flip thanks to callers nuke. b) pardoner seems like a shit role for scum, seeing as if you use to save your buddy, you instantly become a target and he just gets lynched tommorow. I have a few preliminary scum reads but I need to get completely intimate with das thread first : P not going to throw myself into another retarded tunnel again if I can help it. 2 am here T_T night all, gl. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
They are both receiving activity warnings. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
If a day-vigi is leading in the vote-count, they cannot make a shot. This is in the OP, but I wanted everyone to be clear on this. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25551 Posts
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On April 28 2014 13:24 VisceraEyes wrote: Yeah no I see what you're saying. Also presumably he didn't know the nuke was fake so him /actually/ using the power looks worse because scum are more likely to fire off their power out of spite than town I guess. My question is, why prplhz? He wasn't in danger of getting lynched, so why tie himself to a scumbuddy like that if prplhz is scum? You do think prplhz is scum with him in this scenario yes? My point was that town is more likely to fire off their power out of spite than mafia, but it ultimately depends on the person. I think Palmar would do it as town moreso than mafia. But we're arguing a moot point I guess. Alakaslam, Palmar, RoL, Caller are the people that joined this vote without providing anything substantial. | ||
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Alakaslam
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
Ace wanted to lynch Caller because of the nuke (when Ace didn't know the nuke was fake). However when Alakaslam shot yamato77 he didn't care at all, just a throwaway comment on how it was a bad shot. Makes absolutely no sense to want to lynch one player for something and not wanting to lynch another player for the same thing. | ||
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
VE-5 prphlz-4 Blazinghand-4 VayneAuthority-3 Odin-3 Caller-3 Oatsmaster-3 Ace-2 Sandroba-2 yamato77-ded (2) Alakaslam-2 WaveofShadow-2 strongandbig-ded town(2) Foolishness-2 Koshi-2(sheep Foolishness) Geript-1 Palmar-1 rol-1 Austinmcc-1 Justanothertownie-1 Cephiro-1 oh look the two people i find really fishy both swapped their vote the most. can't make up your mind, can we, mafiasos | ||
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Caller
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
Btw the reason why caller is town and Slam is scum is the personalities. Caller is insane. Slam is actually not insanse although he types like it. Out of the blue shot coupled with shitty reasoning. Caller didnt give jack shit reasons. Town aint gonna give a shit, scum gonna try and justify their shot. Literally Alak just got away with fucking murder. | ||
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justanothertownie
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On April 28 2014 13:06 OdinOfPergo wrote: fuck. Well, now I look super bad. I still think this means a lot. SnB was a one shot. Did he kill Yam? What does this mean abouit Geript/Ve/Slam? ugh.. Are you on drugs? You just have to read the thread one fucking time and half of the pointless questions in your filter are already answered. It's really not hard - the thread is not that long. I am somehow getting the feeling you are trying to sell us that you are dumb and we should ignore you. I don't like it. On April 28 2014 13:08 VayneAuthority wrote: well at least i dont feel bad hammering since it woulda happened anyway. w/e stupid lynch What kind of excuse is that?... On April 28 2014 13:12 VisceraEyes wrote: But that's not true - you have to factor in that he could have /really/ fucked over town by denying them a lynch entirely. You HAVE to factor that in because he DID not do that and he COULD have done that. And you KNOW that he's a player that would have known that. I think it is clear that Palmar did think the nuke was real regardless of his alignment. It makes no sense to use his power otherwise. You don't do it as town unless you are really trying to get lynched and that doesn't fit Palmars style and you don't do it as scum because you are wasting a huge advantage (potential LYLO one day earlier) for nothing. So, if he thought the nuke was real he couldn't do any more harm than he actually did because he would have been dead way before deadline. Does this point towards town or scum though? I think it is rather scummy because he drops a WIFOM bomb before leaving the game by making us think about if he would pardon a scumbuddy or a townie while it doesn't help him in any way as town. On the other side this is not very clever as long as it is not absolutely sure the nuke is real and if he has a team there should have been someone who tells him not to do it. Based on this alone I would not lynch him but he claimed scum on top of that and did nothing else really. On April 28 2014 16:51 Alakaslam wrote: Correct. I had nothing substantial to provide other than panic fail. So you went full retard if you are town. Great. Do you plan on actually playing the game day2 so we can at least try to figure you out or will you make us waste a lynch/make someone dayvig you? If you are scum just keep doing what it is you are doing and this problem will probably be solved soon. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
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Palmar
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Palmar
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
What it means when sandroba doesn't do shit? | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
Please let me know if I have to do more. Blazinghand His initial posting looked really good. I think his vote on geript here: On April 26 2014 14:54 Blazinghand wrote: I honestly don't see how this says anything about caller's alignment. If you really thought that caller was scum blatantly shooting someone geript you wouldn't feel the need to write such a long paragraph justifying such a simple thought. Caller is just Caller and you're just scum. Scum who is overexplaining cause he knows he's lying ##vote geript Loos really natural. His argument with yamato was also somewhat townie. Now Blazinghand is actually really good at playing scum, but most of what he has posted sort-of holds water, and is consistent. He's also dropped a few lines that make me think dude might be town. For example his sarcastic response to Sandroba's post. at the risk of being played by a trying mafia, BH gets a townread! VE He's trying which doesn't fit his town meta. But... he is trying, and some things he says sorta make sense. also, he gets town points for this read On April 26 2014 15:37 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm not in the business of voting for town for playing against how I think they should play. I want to lynch scum. I think geript's outrage at Caller's shot and his numbering his posts makes him more likely to be town. I think IF Palmar is town then there's a chance he'll rage-shoot Caller, and if he's scum then I don't care WHO he might shoot, but until he proves he's town I don't want him shooting anyone. Mafia people generally don't make reads based on shit like that because they know they might get called out for it. "numbering his posts" is so hilariously weird that VE is probably town. Odin Seemed to be genuinely frustrated by the fact people don't lynch me even when I'm obvscum. Check out this post. On April 27 2014 17:48 OdinOfPergo wrote: What the hell. Seriously. Why is no one lynching Palmar. This dude claims scum, and everyone ignore it. I haven't checked out SnB but you know what.. I'm not going to until tomorrow. Lynching scum to high on my list to worry about other things. ##Vote: Palmar Even now Palmar you can't be asked to put any effort into this game. Per your last post you; Want to die so you can "yell at game" post game. Didn't actually read Prp's case but decided he must be town. So thus pardon.... TO FIRETRUCK WITH TOWN. And he's WORRIED he didn't screw with town. So what gives? There is this guy in our game... Who claims over and over again he's out to do whatever is possible to ruin the town. And we aren't lynching him. There's really not that much else to the weak townread I have on him. It's basically that he's trying too hard and getting too frustrated to be mafia. prplhz retracting earlier townread, now I just don't know. His response to when foolishness case was awkward "Just lol at how bad Foolishness case on me is" The entire tone of that response post here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=21270118 feels off. then again he also has some posts that sound really reasonable, like his last post on Ace: On April 28 2014 19:25 prplhz wrote: Okay I want to lynch Ace because of the following: Ace wanted to lynch Caller because of the nuke (when Ace didn't know the nuke was fake). However when Alakaslam shot yamato77 he didn't care at all, just a throwaway comment on how it was a bad shot. Makes absolutely no sense to want to lynch one player for something and not wanting to lynch another player for the same thing. It's a pretty natural attack with solid reasoning behind it. So he's just meh for now. if I had to make a pick I'd still go town, but I'm less sure. Sandroba Dude's mafia  the best part is he instantly defends SnB but never actually gives any kind of reasons for it. Like SnB is under attack, Sandroba votes Foolishness for pushing the case on SnB but never mentions even a single word to explain why SnB is not mafia. The closest he gets is an accociative call that the "wagon is too easy". unless I missed something. Just shoot him, he's a great vigi shot as he's useless. This is classic scumdroba though, and if he's mafia I wouldn't expect him to try hard 2 games in a row Yamato I know he dead, but he was probably town. I loved his "I'll rng shoot into the people voting SnB" stuff. No matter his alignment that was cool play JAT I saw this post here: On April 27 2014 07:05 justanothertownie wrote: Your blind worshipping is just getting on my nerves tbh. Foolishness did exactly this to WoS in the shadow game. As long as almighty Foolishness doesn't explain to me why prplhz is scummy I will just ignore him and you should too. At least if you have no scumread on that guy on your own. And thought, "that looks kinda townie". So maybe he's town. It's not a strong read or anything. VA Probably mafia look at this. On April 27 2014 01:06 VayneAuthority wrote: Seems more like a bluff to me. I did it all last game in catastrophe for fun as town since my role is mediocre. I'm guessing Palmar is just VT and bored that he got shot by the insane caller. Their alignments literally do not matter as we won't see Palmar's alignment, such a waste of thread space. Shitty stance on me and caller, passive because he probs knows both our alignments. Also complaining about thread quality, classic mafia. Random shitty pre-flip association: On April 28 2014 04:40 VayneAuthority wrote: at the very least I think one of palmar or snb has to be scum with the way the votes are going and the way they are being placed so thats good. dont mind a 1 for 1 trade. I think sandroba is flying under the radar but ill push that tomorrow. Also he hasn't posted anything of value. Very good lynch target tomorrows because it'll force him to actually try if he's somehow town and shit. Slam Shoot it before it spreads more aids pls. Not gonna pretend I have any idea what his alignment is. Koshi Don't know if he just decided to troll this game or is mafia. Look at this: On April 27 2014 09:20 Koshi wrote: Koshi his list of how do we read people and people we have already read. 1. Ace (Lynch if he doesn't lynch scum and is smart. If your mouth didn't fall open by the end of D2 because his smartness made you want to insert penis in .... Wait too much penis talk already... we should shenanigans lynch him) 2. Foolishness ( Mouth already full) 3. Sandroba (I like how he was all bossy and short with answers Totes town) 4. Caller ( Somewhere I believe Palmar will be scum, I am optimistic like that, sadly I will never see Palmar flip so my optimism will just be replaced by curiosity and we should lynch this guy D4 or so, dnu if we have like trackers or something and that kp is factional so yeah dnu yet. I am like feeling he is town. Dnu really. Dnu) 5. Palmar (butthurt. Maybe also scum) 6. VE ( scum because reasons given already) 7. prplhz (scum because Foolishness said so) 9. yamato (town because smart and the post in which he says he has no townreads) 10. vayneauthority (town, I just know it) 11. rebirthoflegend (Going to be replaced again) 12. Cephiro (I think he already made a big post and it wasn't at the end of D1 about the start of D1 so he is town atm) 13. alakaslam (town cuz 2 happy) 14. waveofshadow (town cuz good posts) 15. strongandbig (2 smart , also is "all like guis let's talk about stuff" and then doesn't talk about stuff = scum) 16. odinofpergo ( On to something, might be smart town) 17. oatsmaster (dnu, he is probably in crisis now he can't make oneline post taunting people) 18. Blazinghand (town. I am sure. He is actually playing decent. BH as scum plays riddles) 19. tehpoofter ( dnu) 20. Justanothertownie (mehhhhh, always these silly questions JAT, then that outburst towards me, let's call him scum, also because after I called him out for being a hypocrite he quoted something marv always says) 21. Geript ( scum) 22. Gumshoe (???) 23. austinmcc (???) Game probably solved. I've bolded the most hilariously fabricated reads. Then again, there is the troll and aids chance. I know I'm being a little shit, so why wouldn't Koshi be a little shit? Probably closer to the scumpile though. Ace This here: On April 28 2014 02:18 Ace wrote: Palmar. When he asked for Caller to be shot and I said that wouldn't be a good idea because he won't flip he said he didn't care. Pardoning you when you weren't in danger of even dying was also useless. If you're doing anti-town things, and acknowledge it before you do it, and threaten to screw the Town over - you're scum. Ace KNOWS this is bullshit. He's not dumb enough to believe this is actually true. But he's still pushing it because he wants to lynch me. I'm giving Ace a #180backwardstownread for this. It's the weakest shit townread ever, but it's something. | ||
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