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justanothertownie
16318 Posts
On April 29 2014 05:20 Palmar wrote: This is my 7th post this night and I've only been gifted one. What a rebel! Sandro, I don't have a scumread on you but I don't see why anyone is guaranteed to be scum for not townreading you tbh. Like Koshi said - what about Vayne? Also, watch out for your post limit. Koshi, did your reads change after that flip? | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
Foolishness and palmar are mafia together. That actually makes caller town. Here is what happened day 1. Caller fake nukes palmar -> Foolishness posts BS case on prpl which is so bad it doesnt get any real traction -> palmar thinks he will die and uses his scum power to save foolishness from the embaressment and being completely obvious scum and if coroner flips palmar later it will make prpl look bad and foolishness look good -> caller: "lol gotchu bitch that was kebab" -> palmar foolishness : "fuuuu now we obv scum gg" | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On April 29 2014 05:26 justanothertownie wrote: What a rebel! Sandro, I don't have a scumread on you but I don't see why anyone is guaranteed to be scum for not townreading you tbh. Like Koshi said - what about Vayne? Also, watch out for your post limit. Koshi, did your reads change after that flip? I changed my read on SnB. I am easily impressed. Sandroba already impressed me. Sandroba The Siren. What were my reads? Palmar, SnB, geript & VE? Now we can add Foolishness. | ||
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justanothertownie
16318 Posts
On April 29 2014 05:36 Koshi wrote: I changed my read on SnB. I am easily impressed. Sandroba already impressed me. Sandroba The Siren. What were my reads? Palmar, SnB, geript & VE? Now we can add Foolishness. No shit. ^_^ Nothing else changed? You still "know" VA is town? Why is geript scum? Why is foolishness scum now? | ||
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geript
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On April 29 2014 05:40 justanothertownie wrote: No shit. ^_^ Nothing else changed? You still "know" VA is town? Why is geript scum? Why is foolishness scum now? Why are you asking me these questions in the night? Totes want to see if you need to shoot me? I thought VA was town. Dnu why I asked that question to Sandroba. I think it had something to do with posts I read. Geript not really on prior list atm. why is foolishness town? That's the question! No really. Other people are allowed to do things today/tomorrow. I was also totes up till 3 am yesterday so time for sleep now. I am toying with the idea to reread the thread and post new and fresh thoughts. 11 hours from now. Maybe. I will keep you updated. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On April 29 2014 05:54 geript wrote: I'm back to Koshi being scum Sure till I make a good case on town again you need to push. Then Koshi is all cool and awesome. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Koshi is always cool and awesome | ||
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justanothertownie
16318 Posts
On April 29 2014 05:58 Koshi wrote: Why are you asking me these questions in the night? Totes want to see if you need to shoot me? I thought VA was town. Dnu why I asked that question to Sandroba. I think it had something to do with posts I read. Geript not really on prior list atm. why is foolishness town? That's the question! No really. Other people are allowed to do things today/tomorrow. I was also totes up till 3 am yesterday so time for sleep now. I am toying with the idea to reread the thread and post new and fresh thoughts. 11 hours from now. Maybe. I will keep you updated. Why anyone would nightkill you right now is beyond me. If we have a limited amount of posts why not make use of the nightposts? Especially since you are probably using all of your dayposts anyways. If you are so afraid of being nightkilled - fine. Do it tomorrow. But I don't see how your change of opinion on foolishness makes any sense and I also don't understand your geript read. 5/5 | ||
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
And by limb I mean I'd find it difficult to believe if you thought otherwise. I'll just summarize main sandroba points: 1) in Bureaucracy mafia I made a bullshit case on day 1 and was afk for the rest of the game. I hardly even pushed it iirc. This game I got a town lynched. 2) I'm not soft defending Palmar, I'm hard defending him. I think he's town. Make a case if you think otherwise cause I haven't seen one other than he did something anti-town by pardoning prphlz. Even so, would not be upset if he died. Almost like a wildcard. 3) Cases weren't bullshit cause I didn't make them up. Legit thought prphlz was mafia (I've caught him before as mafia in the past). Don't think he's mafia anymore and would not lynch tomorrow. So maybe this game is difficult and I or blazinghand or Koshi or 2 or all of us are mafia, and we all pushed a lynched yesterday that we knew was on a town. Or maybe what really happened is that a bunch of townies pushed a lynch onto another townie and the mafia sat back and watched it all happened. This is even more likely given that there wasn't ever that hard of a push against anyone else (the Oatsmaster case never got the traction, though to be honest I would probably lynch him). And it's even more likely cause there's a big handful of people that can be best summarized as: 1) Didn't really contribute much yesterday in terms of pushing a read. 2) Voted without much consideration or without following it up. And that handful of people includes, Ace, Palmar, Alakaslam, Caller, RoL, WaveOfShadow, Cephiro and then VA and JAT to an extent. Which boat you riding sandroba? You're "Foolishness is so awful as mafia this is him leading the town to a mislynch with his scumbuddy Palmar" or the "town lynched a town and mafia just sat back and enjoyed the show"? I know what boat I'm in and it doesn't involve any conspiracy theories about mafia buddies purposely ignoring each other. Yes prphlz, I did look at would lynch Cephiro in a heartbeat. | ||
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Cephiro
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geript
10024 Posts
On April 29 2014 07:01 Cephiro wrote: Mason group please recruit me. That's all for tonight. You've made what... 1 post. Fuck that idea. Vigi shoot Ceph. That will solve the problem. | ||
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Cephiro
Finland1934 Posts
On April 29 2014 07:04 geript wrote: You've made what... 1 post. Fuck that idea. Vigi shoot Ceph. That will solve the problem. Now I've made two. There is no "problem". A vig shot on me would be a waste with much better targets around. | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
On April 29 2014 07:07 Cephiro wrote: Now I've made two. There is no "problem". A vig shot on me would be a waste with much better targets around. So who do you shoot if you had a gun? | ||
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VayneAuthority
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
On April 28 2014 14:58 gumshoe wrote: Haro, its late but I owe town a few thoughts. I wont make anymore excuses, suffice to say been a spectacularly busy couple days. havent had enough to read things too in depth. but heres a few things that stand out, geript is town as far as I can tell, or hes playing hard into his own meta. I dont think palmer is scum because a) i am all too familiar with the if im going down towns coming with me mentality, (not specifically in mafia but other traitor games like bsg) its a shit scum strat because threatening people in a game with virtually no stakes is a bad idea, you cant cowe a town with this many great players and I dont think scum plam would try it. seems like a rage play. As scum Hes better off using his time to influence town, because he will never flip thanks to callers nuke. b) pardoner seems like a shit role for scum, seeing as if you use to save your buddy, you instantly become a target and he just gets lynched tommorow. I have a few preliminary scum reads but I need to get completely intimate with das thread first : P not going to throw myself into another retarded tunnel again if I can help it. 2 am here T_T night all, gl. Scum can't pardon other scum unless Bill Murry is hosting. The ability usually used in order to put the town a few steps back when there is a scum pardoner and generally to cause chaos. But yes, it usually does need to be used in such a way to where the person giving the pardon can escape the ire of the town the following day. But yeah, it's not the best role for scum, but's it's more useful then a vanilla scum role because it can situationally be used to fuck with the town. IIRC we had a mafia pardoner in the last game I ran, although we kind of derp'd the implementation a bit. Personally I could see the point being made that if Palmar thought he was going to die, he might as well use the power. He can be town and have had such a huge town read on prplhz which I don't think is too likely on D1, or he could be a scum pardoner who figured he'd take the chance to just fuck with the town a bit while he can (assuming the nuke was real). IMO I think scenario 2 makes more sense because no read should be that strong day 1 to the point where you would remove the towns option to kill a person. Also, let's not forget he said he was going to try to fuck us, whether or not it was an act or genuine rage it seems quite scummy to me. | ||
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Cephiro
Finland1934 Posts
On April 29 2014 06:34 Foolishness wrote: 1) Didn't really contribute much yesterday in terms of pushing a read. 2) Voted without much consideration or without following it up. 1st part is certainly true, 2nd is not. Just because I didn't go around flip-flopping like half the thread doesn't mean I didn't think about my vote target, vice versa. I also clearly stated I'd go to sleep after my vote, and not be around till after deadline, what would there have been to follow up with? Call the people on snb bad? Doesn't get us anywhere, as much as I think it was obviously a bad lynch. On April 29 2014 07:10 geript wrote: So who do you shoot if you had a gun? I wouldn't take a shot. To not waste a post since you'll ask anyway: I see no reason to not wait until night is over before taking one in my position. I prefer to take a shot with more, rather than less information. If I had a gun, there are a few players I'd be eager to pull the trigger at. I won't be naming them because: 1) You'll ask for reasoning, which I don't care to provide at this stage where I merely have my suspicions rather than being fairly certain. 2) I don't see why anyone would kill me at this point in the game. Can't see how scum would consider me a threat as I haven't even tried to push for anyone nor shared my reads, not to mention having done or hinted at anything that could cause them paranoia. Admitting to having no kp doesn't exactly put me high on the list of people to be killed either, I'd assume. A townie taking a shot on someone like me who is clearly around yet also clearly not providing too much to go from is hardly a good choice. There are many players whom there is much more information on that can be made a decision on more easily. Even if you doubt me being town, what reason is there to shoot me during the night when in my current state, assuming I would not be posting much in the future either, I'd be a fairly easy target to push a lynch on. Waste of a good shot. In summary: Right now I'm not interested in being the one leading the town. I also see no reason to provide my current thoughts, given how confident I am in being alive tomorrow, as I can provide better conclusions regarding my thought process in early D2. In the "worst" case scenario that I die tonight: 1) If scum took the shot, that's fine. I don't mind taking the bullet for letting someone more important to live. 2) If a townie took the shot, too bad as it was a wasted one. But as I said earlier, I can't see anyone that even remotely thinks things through shooting me tonight. Also as mentioned before, I won't be on right before nor after the deadline. What do I have to offer? You'll just have to wait and see, halfway through D2 you should have a more reasonable opinion about me. | ||
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geript
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