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On May 03 2014 07:51 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2014 07:40 Yell0w wrote:
But really you ask me why I'm alive and then you claim you were roleblocked? Why would you ask if you already knew? This. mtamburini's play continues to make less than no sense to me. Show nested quote +On May 03 2014 07:43 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
I think it was mafia sided roleblocker.
I think I'm the only one who strongly believes yellow is town, and I'm not roleblocker. Why would a mafsided roleblocker stop mtamburini from killing a town player?
To push a mislynch on tambo.
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I think yellow and tambo are town.
I can't really find anything from amiko's filter either, he was significantly more active than sweetfrost, but no on really suspected him.
I'm gonna push an ahs lynch.
##Vote: ahswtini
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My reasoning is the same as last time.
On May 01 2014 08:04 sqrtofneg1 wrote:I think Ahswtini is mafia. 9 posts so far. First post, he wants to lynch Yellow for joke posts. Second post, he says he doesn't suspect tambo as much b/c he put himself in the spotlight, and he thinks bunny is the most town. Third post, he says that we don't know how many mafia there are. Forth post, he turns against tambo, asks him questions. Fifth post, Show nested quote +On April 30 2014 04:32 ahswtini wrote:On April 30 2014 04:25 Yell0w wrote:
Also, unrelated, but that is actually something I wanted to talk about and forgot, I do think it's really important to act town if you're town, so other townies know you're town too, if no one believes you're town, they won't listen to you, won't lynch with you, it can lead to a mafia win just because the townies weren't being obvious townies so nobody trusted anybody. I'm going to agree with this, wanting to make a conscious effort to appear town is also indicative of a new town player who lacks confidence. So far, I've been struggling because I want to make posts to avoid getting fos'd as an inactive, but at the same time I don't want to be rehashing existing ideas. is really just saying that he doesn't want to get killed even though he hasn't been posting much. Sixth post, he indulges Amiko's request of his thoughts on Sweetfrost. Seventh post, Show nested quote +On April 30 2014 18:32 ahswtini wrote:On April 30 2014 15:15 Epishade wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Ok, so I've been looking through filters for a while now, and have come up with my likely scumteam candidates: Sweetfrost, Tamburini, and Ritoky. I'll give my reasoning. The main thing that I can see between these three is that all of them are pushing really hard for Yellow's lynch, but also clearing each other at the same time. Sweetfrost clears Ritoky as town and is trying to kill Yellow while attempting to discredit Bunny (and Sqrt) through these posts. On April 30 2014 05:43 Sweetfrost wrote:
I can understand that it seems supicious that I don't want to voice an opinion on everyone in the game but since I'm not really sure what I think about the people I haven't talked about I feel it would be stupid to talk about them. I'm not going to give an state an opinion that I actually don't belive in.
But I'm willing to say that I consider Ritoky cleared as town, I like his analysis and they don't seem supicious and he's not jumping on any bandwagons and instead making good independet analysis. I agree with him that sqrt posts are very numerous, short and prodding at people to make analysis all the time. I believe that it's a sign of sqrt being scum.
So to sum it up.
Cleared : ritoky
Possible scum : Yellow/bunny and sqrt On April 30 2014 04:57 Sweetfrost wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2014 04:40 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Other than your yellow read, what are your reads, @sweetfrost? Well as I stated I suspect Bunny being scum for his efforts of trying very hard to build up a positive relationship with everyone. See my previous posts. As for the rest I'm very unsure and still don't want to give a public opinion on anyone since it would just be misleading, I don't have an opinion on the rest yet. So the only thing I'm willing to say right now is that I don't trust Bunny and Yellow. Sweetfrost's plan was to undermine Bunny by saying that he thought she was trying too hard to play townie. I disagree and think Bunny was moving town in the right direction by engaging Yellow in that initial push. Ritoky has been slightly accusatory against Sqrt, which is in line with Sweetfrost's opinion on Sqrt as well, as shown in the post above. They are slowly building up support against Sqrt to lynch him at a later time it seems to me. On April 30 2014 05:26 ritoky wrote:
sqrt:I don't know if it is a stylistic thing or what, but there's something weird here. Lots of prods, short comments, and question asking, not much in the way of legwork. Combine that with the lack of seriousness early on and it just strikes me as all very odd. I don't read him as projecting town in any way; whereas most other people I can read town aspects to what they do and say. My biggest problem with Ritoky though, is how quickly he changed his opinion on Yellow. He first decided that Yellow was likely not Scum when it seemed that pressure had been taken off Yellow. However, when Yellow was pressured again and started piggybacking off of what I said earlier, I think he saw an opportunity to bandwagon people against Yellow. On April 29 2014 12:14 ritoky wrote:
I don't think yell0w is scum right now at all, he responded how he responded. It wasn't ideal, but he is sticking to his story saying it was a joke and I don't read him as hyper defensive about it. But you seem to be very pushy about this entire topic and very heavily deflecting for him. It could just be a legitimate read and belief that it is a joke, but you could also be mafia deflecting for another mafia or mafia trying to deflect/pocket a town who faced early pressure.
^Ritoky said this before Yellow got suspicion on him again. His wording here is what throws me off a bit. "I don't think Yellow is scum right now at all." He says this when pressure starts dropping off of yellow. Then, a little later on, Yellow is put back in the spotlight. Eden votes for Yellow, then Ritoky decides to join in by saying he isn't opposed to a lynch. I think he thought that, with other public support against Yellow outside of mafia, he'd be able to bandwagon against Yellow as the first lynch. On April 30 2014 13:15 ritoky wrote:
@yellow: Regarding your opinion on mtamburini, it may just be a difference of opinion. But you were highly defensive and highly concerned with appearance. And I think it is very right that you are pressured heavily based on that fact.
Regarding what you said about sqrt, I could not agree more with "he did seem to be trying to start conversations when there wasn't one, I just don't think he was doing anything when there was one". And in my mind he just did it again. He said there is nothing going on when you and I were clearly interacting. He just seems to be waiting for everyone else to play the game so that he can pick the winning side. Again, maybe it's a stylistic thing cuz basically nothing he says seems town to me so far, but I just can't find any reason to put him on the good side of the tracks
Here is where he attempts to discredit Sqrt. Tamburini has been desperately trying to kill Yellow way too hard. On April 29 2014 12:43 mtamburini wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2014 12:35 mtamburini wrote:On April 29 2014 12:20 Yell0w wrote:
Just before I leave, just one question for rikory, what would have been a better response from me? What was the ideal response? Wow... Just wow... Bunnies I think we need to apply pressure back on YELLOW. How should I have responded? If your town you shouldnt care on how to appear more towny. This a classic rookie mafia mistake. ##VOTE: Yell0w I mentioned this before and I'll say it again. This sounds like a flimsy excuse to me to lynch someone. Obviously town SHOULD care that they appear townie. You want to try everything possible to stop from getting lynched. Acting town AS A TOWNIE is the best way to accomplish that. He even continues his assault below. On April 29 2014 12:52 mtamburini wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2014 12:47 27ninjabunnies wrote:On April 29 2014 12:43 mtamburini wrote:On April 29 2014 12:35 mtamburini wrote:On April 29 2014 12:20 Yell0w wrote:
Just before I leave, just one question for rikory, what would have been a better response from me? What was the ideal response? Wow... Just wow... Bunnies I think we need to apply pressure back on YELLOW. How should I have responded? If your town you shouldnt care on how to appear more towny. This a classic rookie mafia mistake. ##VOTE: Yell0w I was reading that too, tamburini, however, as of now, yellow seems t be much off of the table. It could also be a rookie town mistake, wanting to know how it made him look scummy instead of townie. Fuck that shit no one is off the table today, I want this Yell0w person to die after everything thats happened. 1 Sarcasm 2 Asking how I can be more towny is not towny. These are 2 really good reasons to push harder on Yell0w. I liked bunnies initial push but wasnt ready to jump on board just yet, wanted Yell0w to talk some more and see what they had to say, and I did not like anything said so far. I believe Tamburini was trying to get Bunny back on Yellow's case so that she might rally other people in support against Yellow so that he and his group would be able to vote for Yellow with the majority of Town. On April 30 2014 01:16 mtamburini wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2014 00:27 dfs wrote:
@sqrt, to be fair, I never actually called anyone anything, yet. I simply shared my points of interest at that time, and my thoughs on them.
What is interesting to me now is how you just cleared yell0w altogether? A person who is getting the most pressure so far. I like this fellow. Has not said much of anything but has picked up on something that no one else had really brought up (maybe not even thought about too) Can you give more details on yellow and/or anyone else? When dfs comes into the thread and says something against Sqrt, Tamburini says "I like this fellow" and basically nothing else. Once again, he's working one small step at a time to get support against Sqrt with his team. Then he asks dfs what he thinks about Yellow and/or anyone else. He doesn't just say "Can you give more details on anyone?" He makes sure to include Yellow outside of that 'anyone else' so that dfs would be more likely to respond specifically on Yellow. Then, if dfs thought that Yellow was scum, Tamburini would have even more support to lynch Yellow. ------------------------------ I believe that Eden had some good reads to come up with on Yellow (like that he wasn't actively scumhunting) that led to him arriving to vote at Yellow at his own discretion. I still wouldn't classify Eden as scum, but I do disagree with his vote. tldr: I think Tamburini, Ritoky, and Sweetfrost are all scum for a couple of factors. They all want to get rid of Yellow. They've shown distrust in me and Bunny, whom I would consider the most town player here so far. They have cleared each other at different times (Tamburini as an exception, hasn't cleared Ritoky and Sweetfrost, but has been cleared by them). And, they've all shown support against Sqrt as well, which I assume is to lynch him easier down the road. This is a great post. I have nothing insightful of my own to add to the analysis there. However, out of the three, I think mtamburini is the best lynch here. ritoky and sweetfrost's posts are better in that they talk about many different people, whereas mtamburini seems to be gunning straight for yell0w. Therefore it'll be handier to keep ritoky and sweetfrost around for longer as we can get more information out of them provided they continue their way of posting. ##Vote: mtamburini he just says he likes the post by epishade, and then wants to lynch tambo. His most recent post is simply a collection of what's been going on. Think about it, he hasn't been doing anything really, just saying that he likes this, or saying that he agrees with that. His largest post is a collection of what's been going on. I asked for his reads once, he never said anything about them. He's not useful. He's lurking. I'm pretty darn sure he's mafia, and if he's not, we will have lynched a townie that hasn't been contributing. ##Vote: ahswtini
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On May 03 2014 08:36 ahswtini wrote:Ok so mtambrini claimed he was blocked in the night, that still doesn't account for a missing kill, assuming there is a SK. So: either the SK or Mafia got roleblocked, or the jailkeeper pulled off a save. It's possible the SK or Mafia withheld their shot (the wording of the SK role implies he can withhold the shot "Once per night you can release a player from the game."). If a town roleblocker did act last night, I would have asked them to come out to us, but the problem is, the jailkeeper could also have been the one blocking the kill. It's not possible to know which one was responsible and we can't ask both of them to come out. And of course there's the increasingly likely possibility that there is no SK in this game. That all aside, I really believe mtamburini is the vig. If he wasn't, the real vig should have shot him last night. Unless the real vig was roleblocked, but I don't see how Mafia would have access to such knowledge. There's no way any jailkeeper with a clue would have locked up mtamburini last night, so he certainly wasn't protected. Him getting roleblocked was to be expected - he's the only "confirmed" blue in the eyes of the Mafia. Then again there may be no vig in the game, and scum mtamburini lucked out with such a fakeclaim. In which case a big fuck you to the host 
What if there is no SK?
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I would like everyone to improve their posting.
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Okay ahswtini. You think mystermeat is mafia. Who else is mafia in your point of view?
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Where is everyone.... is it something I said?
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I meant posting more actively. Not improving their posting in the sense of writing more per post, because I have no right to say that.
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On May 03 2014 10:28 ritoky wrote:At the immediate end to yesterday's day phase, my belief was that there were 1 or probably two scum on the wagon and since then I am pretty sure it was two. The order before was 1) epishade and 2) sqrt, but now I think that order has flipflopped with sqrt being #1 and epishade being #2. So let's really look into this. Regarding my new #1 scummer sqrt: Why you're a scummer: 1) You demand substantially more information from people than you give back. To me this is indicative of two things: either you're mafia or you're the cop. I personally read you as mafia always trying to test the waters and end up on the winning side or at least a side where you'll get the least dirt on you. I haven't really seen you take any significant stance on your own or lead anything. You're always 2nd, 3rd, or 4th to something; and it sure as hell isn't for lack of activity or effort since your filter has 9 pages. 2) This one is very simple, you voted on sweetfrost who imo was CLEARLY town. You get a slight pass because you weren't there at the very end when he started typing in his defense and was beyond a shadow of a doubt town for his lack of desperation and other indicators in his post. 3) Your reaction to lynching a town was: 0 remorse Show nested quote +On May 02 2014 07:57 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
I think we can.
No N1 flavour? awww....
Really? No flavor is what comes to mind? Not, oh crap I just contributed to a townie death for shit reasoning? Not even a single comment here about how he came up town. 4) You wait around for other's to make cases: Show nested quote +On May 02 2014 08:27 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Good.
Now, someone should do a vote analysis.
Or anything really, I want to talk. "Someone" should do some vote analysis. Yeah, cuz you surely shouldn't even though you have the time to quite obviously. You wouldn't wanna get ahead of yourself and lead anything. Why not wait for someone else to do some analysis so you can make it your own later or follow right behind them. Show nested quote +On May 02 2014 08:36 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Everyone, look through sweetfrost's filters, and tell us your thoughts! Go! Show nested quote +On May 02 2014 08:39 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Well, it's short. I can't seem to find anything really useful. I think it'd be more useful to look at the whole thread and see other people's reactions to him. You can't find a single useful thing? Not one? Really? Cuz a lot of people didn't think he was scum and a few had him town read. So other people clearly found things, I mean I did. I don't think it's you not finding things, I think it is you not wanting to appear as you found things unless other people did. But wait, this isn't a unique occurrence cuz guess what? It happened again. Show nested quote +On May 03 2014 08:33 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
I think yellow and tambo are town.
I can't really find anything from amiko's filter either, he was significantly more active than sweetfrost, but no on really suspected him.
I'm gonna push an ahs lynch.
##Vote: ahswtini Now you can't find anything in Amiko's filter? AMIKO's? The person who I think was in every single person in the game's top 3 town with multiple pages of in depth analysis of players and you find not a damn thing? I find this absolutely ridiculous. Maybe I am able to buy you not finding anything in Sweetfrost's filter as the quantity and quality was significantly less. Okay, I guess I can see that. But I am not someone who buy's wolf tickets. You didn't find any info in either? Not buying it. And not buying you as town. I will make my case on Epishade in a bit because I have to do some things, but it isn't much different than it was before. I also think that unless Epishade or Yell0w die during the night (nice 1 tambo), that it seems almost inevitable that we will have to lynch between them. I will explain why I think that in the other post later. but for now let's cap this off with ##vote: sqrtofneg1
#1 I've always indulged people with whatever they asked of me. Not my fault they don't ask me much.
#2 Well, why aren't you going after the other people who voted sweetfrost then? Sure, you have epishade as #2 scum, but what about bunnies?
#3 What about you? Did you have any remorse?
#4 This one I can't argue. I do like to wait to see what others think first, before telling my reads.
As for not finding anything in the filters, I would like you to find something useful. Sweetfrost honestly gave me nothing, and amiko's only showed his thoughts. No one suspected him, no one really directly interacted with him. So his filter also gave me next to nothing.
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I like that you're getting more active, but sorry to tell you this, the whole case is wrong. I'm not mafia.
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On May 03 2014 11:11 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2014 10:48 sqrtofneg1 wrote:On May 03 2014 10:28 ritoky wrote:At the immediate end to yesterday's day phase, my belief was that there were 1 or probably two scum on the wagon and since then I am pretty sure it was two. The order before was 1) epishade and 2) sqrt, but now I think that order has flipflopped with sqrt being #1 and epishade being #2. So let's really look into this. Regarding my new #1 scummer sqrt: Why you're a scummer: 1) You demand substantially more information from people than you give back. To me this is indicative of two things: either you're mafia or you're the cop. I personally read you as mafia always trying to test the waters and end up on the winning side or at least a side where you'll get the least dirt on you. I haven't really seen you take any significant stance on your own or lead anything. You're always 2nd, 3rd, or 4th to something; and it sure as hell isn't for lack of activity or effort since your filter has 9 pages. 2) This one is very simple, you voted on sweetfrost who imo was CLEARLY town. You get a slight pass because you weren't there at the very end when he started typing in his defense and was beyond a shadow of a doubt town for his lack of desperation and other indicators in his post. 3) Your reaction to lynching a town was: 0 remorse On May 02 2014 07:57 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
I think we can.
No N1 flavour? awww....
Really? No flavor is what comes to mind? Not, oh crap I just contributed to a townie death for shit reasoning? Not even a single comment here about how he came up town. 4) You wait around for other's to make cases: On May 02 2014 08:27 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Good.
Now, someone should do a vote analysis.
Or anything really, I want to talk. "Someone" should do some vote analysis. Yeah, cuz you surely shouldn't even though you have the time to quite obviously. You wouldn't wanna get ahead of yourself and lead anything. Why not wait for someone else to do some analysis so you can make it your own later or follow right behind them. On May 02 2014 08:36 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Everyone, look through sweetfrost's filters, and tell us your thoughts! Go! On May 02 2014 08:39 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Well, it's short. I can't seem to find anything really useful. I think it'd be more useful to look at the whole thread and see other people's reactions to him. You can't find a single useful thing? Not one? Really? Cuz a lot of people didn't think he was scum and a few had him town read. So other people clearly found things, I mean I did. I don't think it's you not finding things, I think it is you not wanting to appear as you found things unless other people did. But wait, this isn't a unique occurrence cuz guess what? It happened again. On May 03 2014 08:33 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
I think yellow and tambo are town.
I can't really find anything from amiko's filter either, he was significantly more active than sweetfrost, but no on really suspected him.
I'm gonna push an ahs lynch.
##Vote: ahswtini Now you can't find anything in Amiko's filter? AMIKO's? The person who I think was in every single person in the game's top 3 town with multiple pages of in depth analysis of players and you find not a damn thing? I find this absolutely ridiculous. Maybe I am able to buy you not finding anything in Sweetfrost's filter as the quantity and quality was significantly less. Okay, I guess I can see that. But I am not someone who buy's wolf tickets. You didn't find any info in either? Not buying it. And not buying you as town. I will make my case on Epishade in a bit because I have to do some things, but it isn't much different than it was before. I also think that unless Epishade or Yell0w die during the night (nice 1 tambo), that it seems almost inevitable that we will have to lynch between them. I will explain why I think that in the other post later. but for now let's cap this off with ##vote: sqrtofneg1 #1 I've always indulged people with whatever they asked of me. Not my fault they don't ask me much. #2 Well, why aren't you going after the other people who voted sweetfrost then? Sure, you have epishade as #2 scum, but what about bunnies? #3 What about you? Did you have any remorse? #4 This one I can't argue. I do like to wait to see what others think first, before telling my reads. As for not finding anything in the filters, I would like you to find something useful. Sweetfrost honestly gave me nothing, and amiko's only showed his thoughts. No one suspected him, no one really directly interacted with him. So his filter also gave me next to nothing. #1 Why do you have to be prompted or pinged in order to share your thoughts and reads? To me, being open and forthright reads town and hiding and waiting reads as having something to hide, whether its a role or mafia. And I don't have a role read on you. #2 I personally thought we were going to wake up with bunnies dead since she was top of a lot of people's town list, but if Epishade is mafia like I think perhaps he believes he is in her pockets, so she is more valuable alive to him than Amiko was. #3 I think you don't read my posts. I got to my phone 7 minutes late, and wanted to switch my vote to you; and I was nearly irate that people didn't read his lack of desperation as CLEARLY town. I would also like to note that you were the hammer vote (last vote) on a townie. And then just moved on...how is that not scummy? #4 What can I say, I am probably gonna read that method of play as scummy 8 times outta 10 then, to me it just seems like you are waiting to pick the side that ends up least dirty. You just have too much of a self-preservationist approach to appear as VT to me, and like I said, I don't have a role read on you; so that leaves 1 option. The one I arrived at.
#1 That's how I play. Look at the other games I've played in. (the previous 2 newbie mini mafia games)
#2 Haha no. If anything, Epishade is in bunnies' pocket.
#3 Well, do you expect me to cry over something that's over? What's done is done. We mislynched.
#4 Well, that's your read. I know that it's wrong.
I'm not mafia.
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Now the question is, are you doing this from a town perspective or from a mafia perspective? Personally, I think you're town too. If you want to win, you don't want to lynch me; I'm not mafia.
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I agree that there probably is gonna be a time where we have to lynch between epishade an yellow. However, I think both are town. If it's me, epishade and yellow left, I think I will have to go for the yellow lynch tho.
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On May 03 2014 11:32 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2014 11:29 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
I agree that there probably is gonna be a time where we have to lynch between epishade an yellow. However, I think both are town. If it's me, epishade and yellow left, I think I will have to go for the yellow lynch tho. What? You hadn't expressed a strong opinion about Epishade. But you had on Yell0w: Show nested quote +On May 03 2014 07:43 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
I think it was mafia sided roleblocker.
I think I'm the only one who strongly believes yellow is town, and I'm not roleblocker. Yet if it were 3p LYLO with Yell0w and Epishade you'd lynch Yell0w?
Yes, I have. My first reads.
Yes, I think I would lynch yellow.
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On May 03 2014 11:33 ritoky wrote:
Okay, so let's enter the magical land where you're not in this game anymore. The next person on my list is Epishade, but you think that Epishade is at least higher than yell0w on your town list. I would like you to give me the #1 reason he is above yell0w on your town list AND a reason you're suspicious of Epishade. If you have 0 suspicions of him, I would like to know how that's possible.
I townread epishade initially because he had taken the time to look at the other games.
What reenforced my townread was that he was contributing. He was doing what a good townie should do.
My suspicions of him included the votecount, which I made a mistake on, and that he's sheeping most of the time.
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On May 03 2014 11:43 Eden1892 wrote:
Your "first read" which you haven't seriously pushed or discussed since, you'd trust over a more recent read you actively defended against accusations of being scum?
When I said "look for people whose actions don't match their words," this is what I mean. I don't buy it.
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##VOTE: sqrtofneg1
You know what I don't buy? I don't buy how you were so active last newbie game, but you're so inactive, in comparison, in this newbie game. I don't buy that.
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Epishade, you better not be mafia.
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On May 03 2014 12:25 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2014 11:45 sqrtofneg1 wrote:On May 03 2014 11:33 ritoky wrote:
Okay, so let's enter the magical land where you're not in this game anymore. The next person on my list is Epishade, but you think that Epishade is at least higher than yell0w on your town list. I would like you to give me the #1 reason he is above yell0w on your town list AND a reason you're suspicious of Epishade. If you have 0 suspicions of him, I would like to know how that's possible. I townread epishade initially because he had taken the time to look at the other games. What reenforced my townread was that he was contributing. He was doing what a good townie should do. My suspicions of him included the votecount, which I made a mistake on, and that he's sheeping most of the time. Okay, but that missed the point a bit. I want to know why those reasons make Epishade higher on your town list than yell0w, to the point where in a final 3 situation you would lynch yell0w. Because in my mind the negative there seems a lot larger than those two positives, which begs the question what about yell0w?
I'm sorry, I don't understand what you're saying here.
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On May 03 2014 12:28 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2014 11:48 sqrtofneg1 wrote:On May 03 2014 11:43 Eden1892 wrote:
Your "first read" which you haven't seriously pushed or discussed since, you'd trust over a more recent read you actively defended against accusations of being scum?
When I said "look for people whose actions don't match their words," this is what I mean. I don't buy it.
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##VOTE: sqrtofneg1 You know what I don't buy? I don't buy how you were so active last newbie game, but you're so inactive, in comparison, in this newbie game. I don't buy that. We've gone over this, career change and finals. I weighed replacing out during D1 but decided to stick to it. If you're just going to keep harping on irrelevant nonsense like my relative activity level, instead of actually making a case, and refuse to address the concerns I've got about you and others have about you, you can go ahead and get lynched now.
What concerns have I not addressed?
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