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Northern Ireland22208 Posts
On May 06 2014 20:15 mtamburini wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2014 19:51 ahswtini wrote:On May 06 2014 19:37 mtamburini wrote:On May 06 2014 12:15 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 06 2014 11:42 mtamburini wrote:
I didnt get role blocked
Bunnies you prob got roleblocked by ritoky IMO
I choose not to shoot last night just in case we are in Lylo today and I mis shoot and lose the game.
The fact that I didnt get roleblocked makes me wonder why not get roleblocked OR died in the night. There are more important roles I guess to roleblock like parity cop
SO basically you suck, and we dont know whether or not you are actual vigi. Thanks tamburini! So basically I probably saved the game if anything. Dont be hating. If you were jailed by the dude that died that doesnt really confirm your allignement IMO but since I think there are not two jailors (I dont think I wouldve got jailed just roleblocked by town or mafia) and in this instance I am sold on it being mafia, I think this clears meat and yellow for me Wait, why have those events cleared meat for you? I can understand yellow because you were intending to shoot him I dont think there are 2 townsided roleblockers. I believe bunines was jailed twice and I was blocked by mafia 2 nights ago and last night meat was blocked by mafia. Therefore meat must be town for mafia to block him in the night. My strongest feeling is there are 4 left based on the last TL game I played. It was a 9 person game with 2 mafia, so 11 means 3 mafia and 13 means 4 mafia FMPOV.
Ok I follow you and agree. I've no reason to think that if there was a town roleblocker, they would not have acted on the first night - plenty of suspicious people to block. If you were roleblocked last night, PLEASE tell us. It doesn't put you at any risk and doesn't hurt town at all.
Now I'm trying to reason out why meat was roleblocked. If Mafia were trying to kill bunnies, who was almost certainly being protected, they may have blocked meat thinking he was the jailor. But then why not hit bunnies at the same time? It's otherwise a waste of a roleblock. It's possible that they figured bunnies was protected, so they hit ritoky. They blocked meat just in case he was the jailor and decided to protect ritoky at night. Or did they get a cop read off meat? Blocking a parity cop on the second night makes him totally useless.
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Thanks for saying everything I just said in more words.
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Everyone give me your top 3 mafia reads.
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Russian Federation4050 Posts
Well, this sucks.
Meat - roleblocked, which suggests he's town (except if mafia held off their roleblock to call it themselves and appear as town)
mtamburini - wasn't roleblocked, which is interesting, because when it was clear that he's going to shoot Yell0w he was blocked, but when he expressed his thoughts on being paranoic and wanting to shoot Bunny he wasn't blocked (instead it looks like the block was used blindly in the hopes to hit another power role, because no one else called their roles).
Simple conclusion from that alone:
Yell0w - mafia.
Bunny - town.
Meat - can be either.
Now I regret not voting mtamburini first day because he's been useless just like I anticipated. His day 1 vig flip would have given us Yell0w flip earlier as now I am sure he is mafia.
Also I find it a bit ironic that I called Meat mafia for not talking and now I get accused of the same thing from Meat. I get it and i'm sorry, but I can't help it.
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Netherlands6191 Posts
I actually agree. I think Meat is town.
I think dfs is town.
I think bunnies might be town.
I think tamb is town.
I think Epishade is scum.
I think Eden might be scum.
I think ahs might be scum.
I think Yell0w might be scum.
If there are 4 mafia and 9 of us, then one more mislynch means GG? 
I'm going to have to post my expansion on these points after dinner (family birthday so helping cook etc), and had a super long day. I'm scared of losing bunnies because she has shown she can be useful. Same with Eden, but I am hesitant of him because I also think he might be dangerous. Eh. Be back just now.
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On May 07 2014 02:21 dfs wrote:
Well, this sucks.
Meat - roleblocked, which suggests he's town (except if mafia held off their roleblock to call it themselves and appear as town)
mtamburini - wasn't roleblocked, which is interesting, because when it was clear that he's going to shoot Yell0w he was blocked, but when he expressed his thoughts on being paranoic and wanting to shoot Bunny he wasn't blocked (instead it looks like the block was used blindly in the hopes to hit another power role, because no one else called their roles).
Simple conclusion from that alone:
Yell0w - mafia.
Bunny - town.
Meat - can be either.
Now I regret not voting mtamburini first day because he's been useless just like I anticipated. His day 1 vig flip would have given us Yell0w flip earlier as now I am sure he is mafia.
Also I find it a bit ironic that I called Meat mafia for not talking and now I get accused of the same thing from Meat. I get it and i'm sorry, but I can't help it.
lol, dfs is sooooo mafia. yell0w has to be town. It was apparent to everyone that tam would shoot yellow. This is why he wasn't roleblocked. If tam had shot yellow the game would have been over. Instead mafia used their roleblock on me just in case i was a role and could do something.
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I think its also apparent who the scum is
-dfs
-epi
-ahs
-drav
if there is a 4th mafia.
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Netherlands6191 Posts
On May 07 2014 03:33 MysteryMeat1 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2014 02:21 dfs wrote:
Well, this sucks.
Meat - roleblocked, which suggests he's town (except if mafia held off their roleblock to call it themselves and appear as town)
mtamburini - wasn't roleblocked, which is interesting, because when it was clear that he's going to shoot Yell0w he was blocked, but when he expressed his thoughts on being paranoic and wanting to shoot Bunny he wasn't blocked (instead it looks like the block was used blindly in the hopes to hit another power role, because no one else called their roles).
Simple conclusion from that alone:
Yell0w - mafia.
Bunny - town.
Meat - can be either.
Now I regret not voting mtamburini first day because he's been useless just like I anticipated. His day 1 vig flip would have given us Yell0w flip earlier as now I am sure he is mafia.
Also I find it a bit ironic that I called Meat mafia for not talking and now I get accused of the same thing from Meat. I get it and i'm sorry, but I can't help it. lol, dfs is sooooo mafia. yell0w has to be town. It was apparent to everyone that tam would shoot yellow. This is why he wasn't roleblocked. If tam had shot yellow the game would have been over. Instead mafia used their roleblock on me just in case i was a role and could do something.
Hang on, so if you got a pm saying you were role blocked, does that mean tamb should have gotten a pm the first time he was role blocked, if he HAS infact been roleblocked? Because he seemed confused for quite a while after as to why Yell0w hadn't died.
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Russian Federation4050 Posts
On May 07 2014 03:33 MysteryMeat1 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2014 02:21 dfs wrote:
Well, this sucks.
Meat - roleblocked, which suggests he's town (except if mafia held off their roleblock to call it themselves and appear as town)
mtamburini - wasn't roleblocked, which is interesting, because when it was clear that he's going to shoot Yell0w he was blocked, but when he expressed his thoughts on being paranoic and wanting to shoot Bunny he wasn't blocked (instead it looks like the block was used blindly in the hopes to hit another power role, because no one else called their roles).
Simple conclusion from that alone:
Yell0w - mafia.
Bunny - town.
Meat - can be either.
Now I regret not voting mtamburini first day because he's been useless just like I anticipated. His day 1 vig flip would have given us Yell0w flip earlier as now I am sure he is mafia.
Also I find it a bit ironic that I called Meat mafia for not talking and now I get accused of the same thing from Meat. I get it and i'm sorry, but I can't help it. lol, dfs is sooooo mafia. yell0w has to be town. It was apparent to everyone that tam would shoot yellow. This is why he wasn't roleblocked. If tam had shot yellow the game would have been over. Instead mafia used their roleblock on me just in case i was a role and could do something.
It was apparent he was going to shoot Yellow day1, yet they blocked him. day2 he talked about bunny as possible target, and they didn't block him, which is my point here.
They can possibly be both town, just like you can possibly be bullshiting everyone with your rolecall, but i'm going with what fits better in my mind right now.
And why would mafia target you? You don't stand out (expect for the beginning of the game), at least Bunny is a better target. I don't think a random roleblock makes sense.
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Netherlands6191 Posts
That is why I was confused too. :/
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On May 07 2014 03:45 dfs wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2014 03:33 MysteryMeat1 wrote:On May 07 2014 02:21 dfs wrote:
Well, this sucks.
Meat - roleblocked, which suggests he's town (except if mafia held off their roleblock to call it themselves and appear as town)
mtamburini - wasn't roleblocked, which is interesting, because when it was clear that he's going to shoot Yell0w he was blocked, but when he expressed his thoughts on being paranoic and wanting to shoot Bunny he wasn't blocked (instead it looks like the block was used blindly in the hopes to hit another power role, because no one else called their roles).
Simple conclusion from that alone:
Yell0w - mafia.
Bunny - town.
Meat - can be either.
Now I regret not voting mtamburini first day because he's been useless just like I anticipated. His day 1 vig flip would have given us Yell0w flip earlier as now I am sure he is mafia.
Also I find it a bit ironic that I called Meat mafia for not talking and now I get accused of the same thing from Meat. I get it and i'm sorry, but I can't help it. lol, dfs is sooooo mafia. yell0w has to be town. It was apparent to everyone that tam would shoot yellow. This is why he wasn't roleblocked. If tam had shot yellow the game would have been over. Instead mafia used their roleblock on me just in case i was a role and could do something. It was apparent he was going to shoot Yellow day1, yet they blocked him. day2 he talked about bunny as possible target, and they didn't block him, which is my point here. They can possibly be both town, just like you can possibly be bullshiting everyone with your rolecall, but i'm going with what fits better in my mind right now. And why would mafia target you? You don't stand out (expect for the beginning of the game), at least Bunny is a better target. I don't think a random roleblock makes sense.
Think about it this way. Bunny and Yellow are both town. He was roleblocked n1 to see if mafia could push a mislynch on either yellow tam. N2 Tam is either gonna shoot bunny or yellow, why block him? He isn't pointing his gun at any mafia. We where all suprised that tam didn't bother shooting anyone. So who do you roleblock next? There is no point in roleblocking bunnies, as she was probably put in jail, so there is no point in wasteing a double roleblock on her. Obviously there is no point in roleblocking ritoky who is going to die in the night cause he can't save himself. If we have 4 mafia then out of the 2 people remaining your only roleblock choice is either me or eden.
I've been posting since the begininning of the game as someone who has a role. I.E. posting little but still letting everyone know i've been keeping up with the thread.
Anyway, you chose me over eden, as in because you only had one of us to choose from as their is no point in roleblocking your own mafia, if you think you were going to win during the night. So just roleblock someone who could potentially do something.
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TROLOLOLOL: My coach got temp banned for a week.
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Netherlands6191 Posts
On May 07 2014 03:53 MysteryMeat1 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2014 03:45 dfs wrote:On May 07 2014 03:33 MysteryMeat1 wrote:On May 07 2014 02:21 dfs wrote:
Well, this sucks.
Meat - roleblocked, which suggests he's town (except if mafia held off their roleblock to call it themselves and appear as town)
mtamburini - wasn't roleblocked, which is interesting, because when it was clear that he's going to shoot Yell0w he was blocked, but when he expressed his thoughts on being paranoic and wanting to shoot Bunny he wasn't blocked (instead it looks like the block was used blindly in the hopes to hit another power role, because no one else called their roles).
Simple conclusion from that alone:
Yell0w - mafia.
Bunny - town.
Meat - can be either.
Now I regret not voting mtamburini first day because he's been useless just like I anticipated. His day 1 vig flip would have given us Yell0w flip earlier as now I am sure he is mafia.
Also I find it a bit ironic that I called Meat mafia for not talking and now I get accused of the same thing from Meat. I get it and i'm sorry, but I can't help it. lol, dfs is sooooo mafia. yell0w has to be town. It was apparent to everyone that tam would shoot yellow. This is why he wasn't roleblocked. If tam had shot yellow the game would have been over. Instead mafia used their roleblock on me just in case i was a role and could do something. It was apparent he was going to shoot Yellow day1, yet they blocked him. day2 he talked about bunny as possible target, and they didn't block him, which is my point here. They can possibly be both town, just like you can possibly be bullshiting everyone with your rolecall, but i'm going with what fits better in my mind right now. And why would mafia target you? You don't stand out (expect for the beginning of the game), at least Bunny is a better target. I don't think a random roleblock makes sense. Think about it this way. Bunny and Yellow are both town. He was roleblocked n1 to see if mafia could push a mislynch on either yellow tam. N2 Tam is either gonna shoot bunny or yellow, why block him? He isn't pointing his gun at any mafia. We where all suprised that tam didn't bother shooting anyone. So who do you roleblock next? There is no point in roleblocking bunnies, as she was probably put in jail, so there is no point in wasteing a double roleblock on her. Obviously there is no point in roleblocking ritoky who is going to die in the night cause he can't save himself. If we have 4 mafia then out of the 2 people remaining your only roleblock choice is either me or eden.
I've been posting since the begininning of the game as someone who has a role. I.E. posting little but still letting everyone know i've been keeping up with the thread. Anyway, you chose me over eden, as in because you only had one of us to choose from as their is no point in roleblocking your own mafia, if you think you were going to win during the night. So just roleblock someone who could potentially do something.
I wouldn't have guessed you had a role by this information. It doesn't seem like any particular play style gives clues as to what position you are in. Thus far we've only managed to mislynch, and the people we chose were : Sweetfrost - someone relatively inactive, sqrt - someone active but not contributing. So, if we lynch someone who is extremely active/helpful - tamb or Eden or bunnies, do you think that will give us a different outcome? Both Sweetfrost and sqrt turned out to be town. I don't think posting style is indicative of anything. I, for example, have had a lot less time suddenly, and challenges with isp etc. That doesn't mean anything. I think the fact tamb didn't do anything or even say anything about his reasoning calls for at least a little suspicion., especially after calling vig.
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Russian Federation4050 Posts
On May 07 2014 03:53 MysteryMeat1 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2014 03:45 dfs wrote:On May 07 2014 03:33 MysteryMeat1 wrote:On May 07 2014 02:21 dfs wrote:
Well, this sucks.
Meat - roleblocked, which suggests he's town (except if mafia held off their roleblock to call it themselves and appear as town)
mtamburini - wasn't roleblocked, which is interesting, because when it was clear that he's going to shoot Yell0w he was blocked, but when he expressed his thoughts on being paranoic and wanting to shoot Bunny he wasn't blocked (instead it looks like the block was used blindly in the hopes to hit another power role, because no one else called their roles).
Simple conclusion from that alone:
Yell0w - mafia.
Bunny - town.
Meat - can be either.
Now I regret not voting mtamburini first day because he's been useless just like I anticipated. His day 1 vig flip would have given us Yell0w flip earlier as now I am sure he is mafia.
Also I find it a bit ironic that I called Meat mafia for not talking and now I get accused of the same thing from Meat. I get it and i'm sorry, but I can't help it. lol, dfs is sooooo mafia. yell0w has to be town. It was apparent to everyone that tam would shoot yellow. This is why he wasn't roleblocked. If tam had shot yellow the game would have been over. Instead mafia used their roleblock on me just in case i was a role and could do something. It was apparent he was going to shoot Yellow day1, yet they blocked him. day2 he talked about bunny as possible target, and they didn't block him, which is my point here. They can possibly be both town, just like you can possibly be bullshiting everyone with your rolecall, but i'm going with what fits better in my mind right now. And why would mafia target you? You don't stand out (expect for the beginning of the game), at least Bunny is a better target. I don't think a random roleblock makes sense. Think about it this way. Bunny and Yellow are both town. He was roleblocked n1 to see if mafia could push a mislynch on either yellow tam. N2 Tam is either gonna shoot bunny or yellow, why block him? He isn't pointing his gun at any mafia. We where all suprised that tam didn't bother shooting anyone. So who do you roleblock next? There is no point in roleblocking bunnies, as she was probably put in jail, so there is no point in wasteing a double roleblock on her. Obviously there is no point in roleblocking ritoky who is going to die in the night cause he can't save himself. If we have 4 mafia then out of the 2 people remaining your only roleblock choice is either me or eden. I've been posting since the begininning of the game as someone who has a role. I.E. posting little but still letting everyone know i've been keeping up with the thread. Anyway, you chose me over eden, as in because you only had one of us to choose from as their is no point in roleblocking your own mafia, if you think you were going to win during the night. So just roleblock someone who could potentially do something.
Yes, I though of it. That Yell0w mislynch attempt option was too obvious for everyone on day2 so most people left him alone (me included, i was betting on vigi, which, again, was a mistake) and some even though he was clear town.
You were acting like mafia if anything. Power role whould act as much less as mafia as possible, not super quiet and suspicious.
I forgot the fact that Bunny was jailed, so that makes sense. Then again, a random roleblock? Not just random, but on a person who was acting suspicious. A roleblock usualy indicates that that person is town. That's a stupid thing to do if you want an easy misslynch later. So your fake call is a legitimate option in my mind.
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On May 07 2014 04:14 dfs wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2014 03:53 MysteryMeat1 wrote:On May 07 2014 03:45 dfs wrote:On May 07 2014 03:33 MysteryMeat1 wrote:On May 07 2014 02:21 dfs wrote:
Well, this sucks.
Meat - roleblocked, which suggests he's town (except if mafia held off their roleblock to call it themselves and appear as town)
mtamburini - wasn't roleblocked, which is interesting, because when it was clear that he's going to shoot Yell0w he was blocked, but when he expressed his thoughts on being paranoic and wanting to shoot Bunny he wasn't blocked (instead it looks like the block was used blindly in the hopes to hit another power role, because no one else called their roles).
Simple conclusion from that alone:
Yell0w - mafia.
Bunny - town.
Meat - can be either.
Now I regret not voting mtamburini first day because he's been useless just like I anticipated. His day 1 vig flip would have given us Yell0w flip earlier as now I am sure he is mafia.
Also I find it a bit ironic that I called Meat mafia for not talking and now I get accused of the same thing from Meat. I get it and i'm sorry, but I can't help it. lol, dfs is sooooo mafia. yell0w has to be town. It was apparent to everyone that tam would shoot yellow. This is why he wasn't roleblocked. If tam had shot yellow the game would have been over. Instead mafia used their roleblock on me just in case i was a role and could do something. It was apparent he was going to shoot Yellow day1, yet they blocked him. day2 he talked about bunny as possible target, and they didn't block him, which is my point here. They can possibly be both town, just like you can possibly be bullshiting everyone with your rolecall, but i'm going with what fits better in my mind right now. And why would mafia target you? You don't stand out (expect for the beginning of the game), at least Bunny is a better target. I don't think a random roleblock makes sense. Think about it this way. Bunny and Yellow are both town. He was roleblocked n1 to see if mafia could push a mislynch on either yellow tam. N2 Tam is either gonna shoot bunny or yellow, why block him? He isn't pointing his gun at any mafia. We where all suprised that tam didn't bother shooting anyone. So who do you roleblock next? There is no point in roleblocking bunnies, as she was probably put in jail, so there is no point in wasteing a double roleblock on her. Obviously there is no point in roleblocking ritoky who is going to die in the night cause he can't save himself. If we have 4 mafia then out of the 2 people remaining your only roleblock choice is either me or eden. I've been posting since the begininning of the game as someone who has a role. I.E. posting little but still letting everyone know i've been keeping up with the thread. Anyway, you chose me over eden, as in because you only had one of us to choose from as their is no point in roleblocking your own mafia, if you think you were going to win during the night. So just roleblock someone who could potentially do something. Yes, I though of it. That Yell0w mislynch attempt option was too obvious for everyone on day2 so most people left him alone (me included, i was betting on vigi, which, again, was a mistake) and some even though he was clear town. You were acting like mafia if anything. Power role whould act as much less as mafia as possible, not super quiet and suspicious. I forgot the fact that Bunny was jailed, so that makes sense. Then again, a random roleblock? Not just random, but on a person who was acting suspicious. A roleblock usualy indicates that that person is town. That's a stupid thing to do if you want an easy misslynch later. So your fake call is a legitimate option in my mind.
What about it was random, if your mafia, you were pretty much guarenteed the win if mtam had shot. If there where 9 people,
we have 4 mafia that you won't role block
so we are down to 5. You are going to kill someone and your not gonna roleblock your kill, so we have 4 people. Bunnies is going to get rollblocked so we are down to 3 people. Your not gonna roleblock yelloW since he is going to die. we are down to 2 people.
AKA me or EDEN, which is hardly random.
I also find it strange that you say gambling on tam was a mistake when killing yell0w would have cost us the game.
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On May 07 2014 02:21 dfs wrote:
Well, this sucks.
Meat - roleblocked, which suggests he's town (except if mafia held off their roleblock to call it themselves and appear as town)
mtamburini - wasn't roleblocked, which is interesting, because when it was clear that he's going to shoot Yell0w he was blocked, but when he expressed his thoughts on being paranoic and wanting to shoot Bunny he wasn't blocked (instead it looks like the block was used blindly in the hopes to hit another power role, because no one else called their roles).
Simple conclusion from that alone:
Yell0w - mafia.
Bunny - town.
Meat - can be either.
Now I regret not voting mtamburini first day because he's been useless just like I anticipated. His day 1 vig flip would have given us Yell0w flip earlier as now I am sure he is mafia.
Also I find it a bit ironic that I called Meat mafia for not talking and now I get accused of the same thing from Meat. I get it and i'm sorry, but I can't help it.
You regret not voting on town?
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If they thought I was gonna shoot bunnies, if she is jailed shot doesnt work on her anyways so she can still be mafia if your going by that logic.
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oh, thats true. Bunnies is my most uncertain town read. She was really active early game, and then hasn't really done much. However i would like to lynch her later, in the hope that she gets shot at night.
For todays lynch, epi, ahs, or dfs
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Ahs, dfs, meat, and possibly drav are the most suspicious for me right now, and I feel that I could lynch any of them one way or the other. My thoughts are that none of them have really made much of an effort to push strongly toward anybody. It's probably because everyone has been on the wrong track in the beginning, lynching people who were talking quite a bit, instead of people who weren't saying very much at all. It wouldn't make sense for them to get involved if they were scum, as they're content to see us all lynch each other. Sweetfrost just happened an unlucky mislynch for us, as he wasn't talking all that much either.
Eden I think I want to hold off on for later. I'm still a bit undecided as to whether or not he's town and he's just made a lot of moves that I disagree with, or he's scum actively moving town in the wrong direction.
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