The red and the green part don't go too well together.

SANDRO, any orders? If I don't hear anything from you before I have to leave tonight I won't shoot.

justanothertownie

16317 Posts

April 15 2014 17:03 GMT

#5686

On April 15 2014 20:43 Palmar wrote:
Shoot amiko Jat.

Fine.

justanothertownie

16317 Posts

April 16 2014 08:39 GMT

#5748

Stop being retarded guys. So the situation is the following:

There were 3 nightkills. I shot Amiko.
This means one of 3 things happened.

1) Amiko used his vest or got protected if he is scum (I personally believe his claim because the post directed at me in the night felt very genuine) and scum pulled out 3 nightkills somehow. Unlikely.
2) A townie shot. Unlikely.
3) My shot got bussed to one of the 3 nightkills. Probably the most likely explanation.

Important:

- If I really intended to shoot town I would 100% shoot Paperscraps. No questions asked. It was clear that he was some sort of medic - why the hell would I shoot anyone else. This way he can just protect sandro.

- The nightkills (if no townie shot) basically confirm that I am NOT SCUM. If scum had 3 KP that would mean there are at least 5 of them left. You don't really believe that, do you?

- The nightkills also confirm that there are probably 3 scum left. If town wants to win this game you need to lynch scum today. This will reduce their KP which is way more important than getting rid of my KP because:
1) I am not shooting town. It seems like town is on the losing end atm and I have no interest in the game ending soon since Sandroba has to die before that happens.
2) Even if I was trying to shoot town I could aswell miss and hit mafia because I don't know who is who. Scum do.
3) Scum will probably have to shoot me at some point.

Since finding one of 3 scum in the current situations seems pretty doable the mayor should ABSOLUTELY be lynching one of them. VE for example is almost a guaranteed hit. No way he lives this long with the role he claimed.

justanothertownie

16317 Posts

April 16 2014 08:46 GMT

#5749

On April 16 2014 10:40 strongandbig wrote:
i counterpropose we put sandroba as top and me as second

On April 16 2014 10:45 strongandbig wrote:
and then i kill ve

This is very reasonable.

On April 16 2014 11:02 sandroba wrote:
Basically it comes down to this:

sandroba
snb
paperscraps
killing

geript?
vayne?
amiko?

ve
jat

Now here is the deal. jat pretty much has to be sk at this point, reason being I held the ring for a lot of nights and he never took a shot on me. Also he went ahead and shot into town tonight, I think it's a safe assumption. The reason for him acting now is probably town being constrained on lynches and not able to act. Also amiko may very well be mafia, not doing what he was suposed to do to prevent town from getting back the res item. VE pretty much has to be mafia, not producing a single useful check in 5 nights he has had to act and being a complete non presence in the entire game.
I agree that we make me and snb both top positions. Now on priorities of who we should kill, definitely jat first since we need to reduce the kp urgently.

There is so much wrong with this post...
First of all I was roleblocked most of the nights (proven). Also I knew you had protective items it's not like you guys made a secret out of that. When WoS flipped I basically knew you have the ring. So,if I shot you I would not only not be able to kill you but also be lynched the next day.
Look at how I claimed. Do you seriously think this makes sense as an SK? To out myself for literally no reason? And also do you really think scum Amiko makes a post like he did last night? I somehow doubt that.
You also say "VE pretty much has to be mafia". FINE. If that is the case you lynch him and reduce KP this way. Like, this is not even a debate.

What a shocking and utterly horrible post of you.

justanothertownie

16317 Posts

April 16 2014 08:51 GMT

#5750

On April 16 2014 11:07 Paperscraps wrote:

Palmar thinks VE is likely town. I tend to agree somewhat at this point.

We have two 3p claims left on Amiko and JAT. JAT is the scummier of the two imo.

You should probably explain this bolded nonsense at some point.

On April 16 2014 14:44 geript wrote:
Looking at Dandel's role I think the kill should be JAT today. I 100% will not pull she nannies no matter how much I may want to kill Sandroba or Killing. I really doubt there are 3 3P roles in this game. This is why I should be the second highest vote getter. Austin trusted S&B who I'm town but not super town on. I also like Paperscraps. I think myself, S&B and Daniel are the only 3 people anyone should be voting for.

What makes you think that? Why can't there be 3 3P roles in a game like this? You just say that like it should be common knowledge.
There is literally now way I am scum. If I was then town already lost this game because that means there are 5 mafia left.

justanothertownie

16317 Posts

April 16 2014 08:55 GMT

#5751

EBWOP: *no way

justanothertownie

16317 Posts

April 16 2014 09:39 GMT

#5752

Let me show you guys what happens if you lynch me:

Right now the situation is probably: 4 town, 3 scum, 2 3P

You lynch me -> 4:3:1

Scum gets 2 nightkills -> 2:3:1 Amiko wins with scum - town lost, gg.

Does anyone still think lynching me is a good idea? Well congrats - you are scum then.

justanothertownie

16317 Posts

April 16 2014 09:43 GMT

#5753

If Amiko is scum it is still 3:3 the next day. Same result.

justanothertownie

16317 Posts

April 16 2014 12:44 GMT

#5755

Why would I?

justanothertownie

16317 Posts

April 16 2014 15:35 GMT

#5761

On April 16 2014 23:27 geript wrote:

Show nested quote +

4:3:2 unlikely. 7 scum starting? You pretty clearly have killed someone last night. Probably random kp from either side still out. I'm guessing we may have something as simple as 6:1:1.

Unless you have a better explanation of how many kills there were last night you should expect there to be 3 left. 6:1:1 is actually impossible since they had 2 KP before and it would mean that even if I had killed one of the 3 people 1 mafia would have killed 2 persons which I don't think is possible.
How is it that hard to understand? If there are 3 left which is likely then you instantly lose if you lynch me so if you really plan on lynching me you are either retarded or scum. 7 scum starting doesn't seem impossible to me. People suggested 9 earlier, there were 8 in another Greymist game.

justanothertownie

16317 Posts

April 16 2014 15:44 GMT

#5762

Like, I can't put it any simpler:
There were 3 kills. Even if you assume that I am responsible for one of them that leaves 2 for the mafia (like they had the nights before). The easiest explanation is therefore that there are still 3 scum left. Unless someone wants to claim one of the shots.

justanothertownie

16317 Posts

April 16 2014 16:46 GMT

#5764

You don't say!

justanothertownie

16317 Posts

April 16 2014 16:52 GMT

#5766

Oh, okay then.

justanothertownie

16317 Posts

April 16 2014 16:59 GMT

#5768

On April 17 2014 01:57 geript wrote:

Show nested quote +

Why can't 1 be from town?

Because town would have claimed that by now don't you think? Also why would a townie shoot one of those people?

justanothertownie

16317 Posts

April 16 2014 17:01 GMT

#5769

A sane townie would have shot VE, VA, Killing or you - maybe even me. Never those people though.

justanothertownie

16317 Posts

April 16 2014 17:12 GMT

#5772

Are you dense? EVEN IF I AM RESPONSIBLE FOR ONE OF THE NIGHTKILLS YOU LOSE IF YOU LYNCH ME. Jesus. Also, you are lying or misremembering. The night you roleblocked me 2 people died. The night S&B rbed me noone did.

justanothertownie

16317 Posts

April 16 2014 17:13 GMT

#5773

EBWOP: That was directed at geript.
@VE: I didn't shoot you because town didn't tell me to. I did what I was told.

justanothertownie

16317 Posts

April 16 2014 17:18 GMT

#5775

And the fact that there were no nightkills at all when mafia had at the very least 2 KP then doesn't bother you? I think the reason for that could be the prince of darkness power.

justanothertownie

16317 Posts

April 16 2014 17:21 GMT

#5777

What the hell are you even trying to achieve here? Either I am right and you straight up lose if you lynch me (and the evidence suggests that I am right) or you are right and lynch me why exactly? I don't want this game to end so why would I shoot townies.

justanothertownie

16317 Posts

April 16 2014 17:22 GMT

#5778

I got no items.