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On March 31 2014 05:04 OnceKing wrote: Would you like to answer ANY of my questions? I think I've answered all of them.
On March 31 2014 05:04 Valenius wrote: I really really dislike you, for pretty much everything you've posted since coming back.
So do you think I'm scum? Maybe uncertain but think I deserve to die regardless?
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On March 31 2014 05:14 IAmRobik wrote: Yo ive been out for friends bdays. Im on my phone. Pixalated still mafia. LT prolly mafia for his late jump and the derailment of his wagon was weird. Havent read anything but the first 2-5 posts of the day
##vote pixalated
I can't wait for you to catch up.
##unvote: IAmRobik ##vote: Pixalated
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On March 31 2014 05:21 Lord Tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2014 05:17 OnceKing wrote: Valenius, LT - who are your other mafia suspects? Still uncomfortable about Robik and still don't like sqrt and RJ but this Day 2 has been a disaster postingwise so I'm trying to get activity up going forward. This flip should also tell us something.
I was just looking at sqrt and... I think I can make a case that he's town. Which means I'm down to two suspects which means I'm almost certainly clearing somebody incorrectly.
The case would be: sqrt just says things. No qualifiers, just what he thinks. If he was doing that high volume it would be easy to be sure. I was predisposed to find him scummy from day 1 and eden's posts and I didn't so hmmmm.
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Hello, Mr. i.
I keep changing my mind about you. What do you think the mafia team mood is like today?
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I feel like eden is reading along shouting at the screen we should be lynching sqrtofneg1.
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##unvote: Pixalated ##vote: sqrtofneg1
Come back and talk Mr. i.
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On March 31 2014 06:08 Valenius wrote: No.
He just pops in with a vote on the top wagon and not a word about anything else.
Exactly the same as Robik.
I think it's a good time to talk.
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I didn't think my vote would get sqrt lynched. There appears to be a lot of inertia and not a lot of people around so I think it would take an act of congress to keep pix from being lynched now.
I hoped seeing his name in bold like that might encourage sqrt to make another post.
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Once again, never ever lynch Valenius or Lord Tolkien. I'm going to spam that until it becomes consensus.
Today I forgot why I had OnceKing cleared so he is on notice that there will be further investigation.
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All right, good talk. Now let's get a reveal. My heart is beating a little quicker.
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The good news is the mafia are running out of mislynch candidates. All I have to do is pick right and not get lynched.
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On March 31 2014 07:27 sqrtofneg1 wrote: Okay, time to start analyzing. This next night kill is crucial for mafia. Who could it be? Who does it make sense for mafia to kill? Coming into D2, I thought that the next obvious choice is Robik. But the problem is, he hasn't posted a whole lot lately. I'm inclined to believe the birthday party excuse for Robik because he's in another game, and he hasn't posted lately on that game either. Anyways, back to the night kill. Who do you think looks the most like the doctor currently? Who does the mafia think is the doctor? Will they even go for the doctor? Or will they go for the top contributing town?
this. Lord Tolkien is the kill. They won't kill Robik because he's mafia. Hope this helps.
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The pivotal player for me is OnceKing. If I can be sure about him then I can go to war with confidence. That will be my focus when I read again tomorrow. Alternately sqrt could convince me he's town. I doubt anything will change my mind about Robik. If he's town then the game is already over because I am town and I'm voting him sooner or later.
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Some musings about anger: fake and real.
Night 1 Robik was quite angry with eden. Eden was not having it and fired back hard. Robik quickly backed down.
Yesterday Tolkien and Valenius were quite angry with me for my extended non-posting. My replies were pretty passive. Their anger persisted.
This is why I keep saying never lynch Tolkien and Valenius. Their anger was real. I could feel the hate coming from Valenius. Scum has no reason to be really angry with me. Me not posting makes it easier for them to not post. Sure they might fake it but this was real. Now if I had played differently and fired back hard at Tolkien and Valenius saying they were very wrong and I was right, do you think they back down quickly? Of course not. That's not how real anger works.
But that is what Robik did. This is why I think his anger was faked, calculated to make him look good. But he couldn't win a prolonged battle with eden so he ended the fight. I was prepared to read hundreds of posts of recriminations but actually it was over almost as soon as it started. It doesn't make sense. Town can't calm down that fast from being that angry about something that important. Emotions don't work like that. Scum can though because it's fake.
cliffs: Tolkien, Valenius good. Robik evil.
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It still amazes me that neither Robik nor sqrt tried to interact with me at all when they returned yesterday. I was the lead wagon much of the day and that goes away and they have absolutely nothing to say about it. I was gunning for Robik and he didn't even acknowledge that. I talked about sqrt on both sides, he ignored it. But he was around after the reveal? I don't get it.
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Yeah that's why they call them excuses.
It's night 2. You've pushed nobody. You've not cared who gets lynched. You've made no effort to clear anybody. Yes you have posts they say things but you aren't trying to persuade anybody, you aren't trying to get your way.
This is a complete mismatch with an experienced player who is going to show everybody how to play. If you were town you'd be making reads on everybody and selling them. You'd challenge people who disagree with you. There'd be no doubt about your reads, everybody would KNOW. You'd be terrified about being nk'd and want to make a post solving the game before you died thinking we'd all follow it.
Nobody was surprised you didn't die n1. Nobody is going to be surprised when you don't die tonight.
You are scum. Now please get lynched.
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To answer your point, it's not the showing up drunk at EOD that's a problem. It's that you made it all the way to EOD without having voted. You just waited until the lynch was decided and made a safe vote. Again. Just like day 1.
You see yourself as a leader. This is not the behavior of a town leader and that only leaves one team for ya.
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The poor scum need more town posting reads so they know which town it's safe to go after for a mislynch. Help them out guys!
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On April 01 2014 00:26 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2014 00:21 RolandJarvis wrote: To answer your point, it's not the showing up drunk at EOD that's a problem. It's that you made it all the way to EOD without having voted. You just waited until the lynch was decided and made a safe vote. Again. Just like day 1.
You see yourself as a leader. This is not the behavior of a town leader and that only leaves one team for ya. 1) you're being a hypocrite cause you didn't vote until EOD either 2) I wasn't around until EOD ... hell. I wasn't even around AT EOD. I was in the thread for less than 5 minutes. I was on my phone. I wasn't reading anything. I just voted who I wanted to vote. I didn't even know what the wagons were and I didn't even stick around to see who was lynched.
1) Nope. For one I read the thread (took no time) and gave opinions on most players while the lynch was actually being decided. More importantly though, I haven't put myself out there as an expert and a leader. I am just a guy trying out mafia at team liquid. If I don't like it I just disappear. I could not have less ego invested in this game. You care about your rep here. But you don't care who gets lynched. That is the contradiction that gives you away.
2) You are making my case for me. You had no idea who was being lynched day 2 and you didn't care. You have no responsibility for anything that happened. I understand and agree with you. We disagree about what that means.
At some point you are going to have to take a stand on players, starting with me. Which way will you go?
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gg scum team.
I didn't read day 3 but I thought everybody town played fine or better except for the day 2 lynch failing to vote and forcing our hand.
I was pretty surprised I died. I thought I was a solid mislynch possibility with no town clearing me.
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